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People seem to kind of like the Asus Transformer series with the optional keyboard docks – it kind of makes sense in a limited way. The PadFone has been a tougher sell, but what if you mashed up those products? Surely that would be the product everyone has been waiting for. Behold, the Transformer Book V, which really is all the things.

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This is a (kind of) single modular device that consists of a phone with a brain powered by Intel, a 12.5-inch tablet screen dock, and a keyboard dock with separate hardware. You just stuff the phone in the tablet dock to make it into a tablet, then stuff the tablet into the keyboard dock to make it a laptop. It's the Turducken of consumer electronics. In tablet and laptop mode it can switch between Android and Windows, but it appears the phone is Android-only (which would make sense).

The Transformer V is powered by an Intel Moorefield chip in the phone and has an Intel Core CPU in the dock section. So, it actually seems to be using the phone part to power tablet mode, but laptop mode is all about the smarts in the keyboard dock. There are 2GB of RAM in the phone/tablet and 4GB in the laptop section. The laptop also gets 128GB of storage, while the phone and tablet have to make do with 64GB.

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It wasn't made entirely clear from the PR, but I think you could take the phone out of the tablet and use it as an Android device while running Windows on the tablet screen. We'll have to wait for more details on that whenever Asus gets around to elaborating, hopefully we'll also find out when and how much.

[Asus, PR]

Ryan Whitwam
Ryan is a tech/science writer, skeptic, lover of all things electronic, and Android fan. In his spare time he reads golden-age sci-fi and sleeps, but rarely at the same time. His wife tolerates him as few would.

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  • someone755

    Please, don't cost as much as a car ;-;

    • abobobilly

      You raise an interesting point my friend. If we think about it, in a lot of places, these devices are costing literally an arm and a leg. I don't think its the manufacturing cost the issue, rather the premium charged on the device.

      • someone755

        Really, the components aren't even half of the ending price. Never.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/77537273@N03/ Herman

          People tend to forget the cost of Research and Development.
          And obviously the manufacturer needs to make a profit off the devices too, to pay their employees and continue releasing better devices next year.

          (not that I wouldn't love to see cheaper devices, I'm just being realistic)

          • someone755

            I'm being realistic, too. Most tech today is overpriced. Take anything Samsung calls 'flagship', or even an HTC One (M7/8) as an example -- sold at ~700€, even though a 500€ price tag would pay the OEM, ODM, Google and everyone else that take the money just enough.

    • http://www.facebook.com/linville79 Bunkai

      The recent Padfone X announcements from AT&T in the U.S. state that the phone and tablet units will only be available as a combo pack (meaning you can't just get the phone device) but at a subsidized price of only $199.

      This device is not much more than a Padfone X with an attachable Keyboard dock.

      I'd expect that dock to run somewhere in the $150 range based on pricing for the other ASUS "book" keyboard prices.

      That would put the cost of this device in the same ballpark as an upper mid-class Chromebook, which I would consider a reasonable price point for this type of all-in-one mobile device.

  • miri

    WinDroid Phabtop(TM)

    • http://www.itemsherpa.com/ ItemSherpa

      haha - precisely...

    • http://www.facebook.com/linville79 Bunkai

      Andows Phabtop ... It's Phabulous!

  • João Grácio

    The problem with this device will be the price...Most of times this "combo" devices will cost you more than if you buy each device alone

    • FunkyMonkey

      The problem with this device ... is the device...
      Its trying to do everything but will be good at actually nothing...
      It will be intimidating to novice users who want/need A laptop or A tablet...
      And it will be annoying to powerusers because productivity is lost when you are trying to switch between this and that.
      I don't get it, just because something CAN run all operating systems, doesn't mean it HAS to.
      Your car has Air Conditioning in it, doesn't mean it has to cool your house...

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/77537273@N03/ Herman

        *puts car inside the house for air-conditioning*

        Don't you tell me what to do!

        • FunkyMonkey

          You peasant!

  • Adrian Meredith

    disappointed theres not a true transformer coming. was hoping for a k1 10 inch android tab with dock. I do love my old transformer prime despite its many many issues

  • renz

    so what happen to google not allowing OEM to dual boot android & windows on the same device? as i understand it the phone is android only but the tablet can switch between android and x86 windows.

    • Stefan

      I think the tablet only has windows installed and the phone only android, as the pr mentions, that the phone has to be docked to use android on the tablet. But I don't know, if there is an extra windows or android installed on the keyboard dock.

      • P0l0nium

        Moorefield won't run Windows (If I read the launch slides correctly).
        Haswell however will run Android.

        I can't quite work out what that means for this device :-)

    • fonix232

      Google was never against the dual-boot, it was Microsoft, because of "lesser security" (which is true, the Android bootloaders are lightyears behind the UEFI loader WP8+ phones use in terms of secure booting)

      • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

        I'm too lazy to search right now but as far as I remember the latest news on the subject by AP included Google as a company that did not want dual boot devices (with Windows) either.

        • fonix232

          I must've missed it, never been watching those news too closely any way. I know that there are a few chinese phones that want to do dual-boot now that WP8 licensing is free, but that's all.

    • Stylus_XL

      Yeah there needs to be greater clarification on this issue. The dual-boot Windows/Android devices that have been announced previously have all been blocked from being brought to market by Microsoft. It's difficult to understand what loopholes (if any) this will exploit to get around this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/linville79 Bunkai

      Doesn't sound like "Dual Booting" to me at all. It sounds like two devices, each with their own dedicated operating system, using the same display and keyboard. Like having a Windows server and Linux server connected to a KVM switch.

      Neither device is booting more than one OS.

  • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

    What
    The
    Fuck

  • Ezzy

    Resolution? Please, for the love of god be at least 1080p...

  • Mystery Man

    WIll be blocked before it is ever released

  • Morten Ulveseth

    If they make really good hardware coupled with thought out and well made software then this could hold some potential. I'll give then a generous 2% chance of actually managing to make a good product. I won't be holding my breath, but would love it if they would manage.

    A question though: how come they are willing to make crazy shit like this, but no one makes phones with physical keyboards anymore? I love SwiftKey as much as the next, but it would be great to have the option on a high end phone.

    • primalxconvoy

      What I would like is for them to make a good laptop dock for most android phones. Previous and existing offerings have been propriety (Motarola) or lacking features like usb external memory (clambook). I want the features of a Samsung galaxy smart dock in a laptop dock.

  • http://www.itemsherpa.com/ ItemSherpa

    this looks very confusing... i like the earlier t100-inspired notebooks a bit better http://www.itemsherpa.com founder

  • http://pawelmolodecki.pl Paweł Mołodecki

    ASUS Transformer Book V
    new photos
    https://plus.google.com/+ASUS/posts/jAT2wMRDYvX

  • SimonPieman

    So i'm guessing Microsoft and Google have both changed their stance on dual boot machines, as neither was willing to licence them. Unless this is running as a non Google Play device and it's only Microsoft's thats caved in due to Windows 8's failure.

    • Funem

      Unless its not a duel boot in the true sense.. The docking of the phone may just use the bigger screen display of the tablet like an external display. That would get round that issue.

    • primalxconvoy

      I think the reason Asus have fully embraced the "matryoshka" style of a phone-tablet-pc together is that they can claim that no one device is running both OS's and thus can circumvent Google's and MS's restrictions.

  • psy_spy

    This is not enough. They should design phones from 4, 4.5 till 6.5 inches, tablet from 7 to 11 inches and laptop from 12 to 17 inches. Now create gazillion combinations of these(4" phone + 7" tablet + 14" laptop). Everyone's need will be satisfied. They could throw in a "smartwatch" too.

    • psy_spy

      My personal favorite would be 5" phone + 7" tab + 14.5" laptop.

      • someone755

        Your personal favorite is weird imo. Why get a 5" phone and 7" tablet? Just get a 6-inch phone and all is settled.
        I'm more of a phone the size of a Moto X, an 8" tablet and ... I don't even want or need a laptop.

  • Ahmed Abbas

    are you sure that the windows "brain" in based in the dock not the tablet ? i think otherwise from reading on Engadget and other sites :/ .. whatever here's a video if anyone want to take a look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XYGL9np8f4

  • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

    The problem with selling these things is that people usually already have a phone, a tablet and a laptop, and they usually replace one at a time, not all of them at once. So when someone needs a new tablet they aren't likely to spend a lot of money to have their phone and laptop thrown aside for a new one... Or I guess maybe that's how people should feel, right?

    Or maybe, ok, there is a market for people with a lot of money that don't care about this, but I think that's a reason why these combo products don't get very popular...

  • Jeffrey Tarman

    While I'm all for it, from a business stand point, this may work better if it were all Windows based. Laptop/tablet and docking the windows phone to provide internet connectivity. Everything at your fingertips when you need it.

  • hfdhd

    no ipod in it? :/

  • Jordi Gasulla

    I'm the owner of the previous Asus Transformer Book Trio and all I can say is: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM ASUS. My experience:

    Bought the tablet/hybrid in december. I treated the machine extremely carefully because of a bad experience with a (minor) drop with my previous Asus eeePad Transformer (TF101) that resulted on a broken warranty. I bought a case for both the PC (dock) and the tablet (screen). No falls at all. Ever. Not even a minor scratch. Nothing at all. The dock starts to become harder and harder to connect, until it no longer does. I take a look at the connector and I can see that it's getting pushed inside. That explains everything right? I send it to Asus for a repair, assuming that with all the extra care I've taken, this time they will honor the warranty, right? WRONG! The budget for the repair is 586.85 euros (almost $800). I paid 995 euros ($1350) for the whole thing not even 6 months ago! The tablet is working perfectly as is the PC. They just don't connect to each other. And they want me to pay 53.24 euros to just get my tablet back (without repairing it). ASUS: NEVER AGAIN.

    • TheSkyIsFalling

      As an owner of several ASUS products I can say BUY ANYTHING FROM ASUS.

      • Jordi Gasulla

        While the products work, they work really well and I was recommending them to everybody. But, oh boy, if you ever have any problem with them...

  • http://mwinter.in/ Yan Gabriel Minário

    The hassle of switching between Android and Windows, plus the space taken by having the same app more than one time, and the fact it's going to cost as much as your left eye...
    But I see this happening with Ubuntu since it's all about docking and stuff.

  • Frank Bales

    Wouldn't mind having the device without the phone. Throw in a wacom screen and stylus and voila!