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We've been hearing about Android Silver, a leaked program between Google and manufacturers to promote quality, standardized Android hardware, for about six weeks now. Today Evleaks, whose consistent pre-release info is almost always spot-on, weighed in on the subject. According to Evan 'Evleaks' Blass, the Silver program is currently scheduled to go into effect in February of next year. Oh, and there won't be a Nexus 6.

There is no Nexus 6. Farewell, Nexus. Don't worry, there's a silver lining to this cloud... Android Silver, circa February 2015.

Previous rumors surrounding Android Silver said that it would completely replace the Nexus phone and tablet program, so the idea of no new Nexus phones is not all that surprising. Android Silver would incorporate several ideal devices from different manufacturers under one marketing push (not unlike Verizon's DROID line, which has included Motorola, Samsung, and HTC phones). These phones, probably high-end devices, would either be selected by Google or made especially for Android Silver. They would run stock or nearly stock Android with minimal software additions and get prompt Android updates, and Google would promote the Silver phones at carrier stores and retailers with its own marketing money.

It is a bit surprising that the Silver program would supersede a new Nexus phone; they've come in roughly yearly intervals all the way back to the Nexus One in January of 2010. A sixth Nexus phone was expected in the late fall or early winter of this year. Pushing the release of a new standardized Android phone, Nexus, Google Play Edition, or Silver as it may be, would leave an almost 1.5-year gap between the Nexus 5 and whatever's next in line.

The amount of leaks seen so far indicate that the Android Silver program is very real, and that it's in the intermediate stages of development. Fans of Nexus devices would surely be disheartened to see the multi-manufacturer series go, but making devices with guaranteed retailer promotional support from Google would be a big boon to manufacturers. It's important to note that while Nexus phones and tablets get a lot of ink in the technology press, they represent a very small portion of Android devices sold, even in the United States.

It's still a long time until February, so even if Evleaks' information is correct as of now (and it usually is), there's a lot that could change in the interim.

Update: Since we published the original story, Evleaks has posted a follow-up tweet, explaining that an LG device packing a Qualcomm MSM8994 chip will be "among the first Silver devices." The handset, according to the tweet, will replace the Nexus 6 and is "expected on Sprint in the US."

Source: Evleaks.at

Michael Crider
Michael is a native Texan and a former graphic designer. He's been covering technology in general and Android in particular since 2011. His interests include folk music, football, science fiction, and salsa verde, in no particular order.

  • TheSparks

    Google: oh we have a product with great potential... Now let's discontinue it!
    ಠ_ಠ

    • http://dabuxian.com/ Dabu

      I think we should wait and see official announcements before judging if it's a bad or good move.

      • ThomasMoneyhon

        locked bootloaders, forced bloat (even if minimal its carriers tinkering), and certification for updates meaning you dont get updates day 1 like a nexus or iPhone.

        • Karan O

          nope you'll still get updates faster than any other oems BUT with modifications that will not be available for other oems but still it's android and they'll get ported !
          i think nexus lines needed this they're featureless out of box so it's gonna boost their sell for average peoples all around the world!

          • ThomasMoneyhon

            People on care about iPhone or galaxy here in the USA. I wanted a developer phone so I wouldn't get bullshit. Google canceling the developer phone makes it hard to understand because you won't change people's mind. For instance folks set on the iPhone don't care that the galaxy 5 is waterproof or has twice the resolution on the camera. Silver is going to literally take years to make a difference.

          • Sergii Pylypenko

            You cannot say that for sure. I would expect Google to at least require unlockable bootloader, and we may expect at least Sony to release their binary drivers, so it will be more-less Nexus.
            Anyway, Google is probably being pressed by device manufacturers to stop selling their own devices altogether - it was all fun and games, until Nexus 4 started to sell like hot cakes, so it put Google in direct competition to Samsung.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Uh... Despite Google not giving out sells figures I seriously doubt its sells hurt anyone, let alone Samsung.

            Also, I'm with Thomas. I don't see this openness being adopted with open arms as you think and Google doesn't have the leverage to accomplish this.

          • renz

            maybe not samsung but what about other smartphone maker? i even read somewhere that LG G2 sales are much lower than company expected because of nexus 5

          • Fabian Pineda

            I'm not sure? I actually read somewhere that LG is supposed to be growing profits for somewhere near 3 times their mobile income revenue.

          • http://googleplus.VoluntaryMan.com/ William Thieme

            you can't have both, adapting mods to be compatible with new OS versions isn't that quick a process.
            the main reason nexus devices get updates quicker than other phones is because they don't have to spend the extra months adapting their OS modifications. A realistic timeframe from my point of view would be that of htc's early kitkat releases.

        • Humberto Hernandez

          It's your second post talking about locked bootloaders and bloatware...

          We don't care about carriers, if you don't like bloat, don't buy a phone from a carrier... that's all, buy it unlocked.

          The post says they will be sold by carriers too, but not ONLY.

        • Fabian Pineda

          Thank you, Thomas, for having a brain.

          It seems everyone is ready to give up all the benefits and vision of the Nexus line and jump in bed with a carrier just to feel pretty after getting screwed over.

          Oh, but it's Silver!

          • Ixil

            Yeah. I what happens to everyone else with a non silver phone?

          • Circs

            Unless they take the updating out of the hands of the carriers, Apple style.

            This is one of the very few times I'm hoping Google pulls an Apple.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Except they won't. Not even GPes receive updates from Google. Google doesn't have an interest in being in control a-la MS.

    • Gokh

      Time to move to WP

      • SSDROiD

        Hahahaha, fantastic joke, man! (Seriously, though, how are you going to live without your Google services?)

        • Gokh

          The things that ruin my N4 battery?
          I use more Hotmail than Gmail, i dont care about Google now or Cortona, for Drive, i already use Onedrive for photo backup, there is better youtube client on WP, Google + hmm... , Skype is better than Hangout, there is Office, maybe the only loss is Maps.

          • SSDROiD

            That's great for you, have fun on Windows Phone, but obviously, you already aren't that interest in Google's services anyway, so it won't be a loss for you. For the majority of us Android users, we like Google and would never switch to its main competitor. But again, great for you!

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            hey don't speak for everybody

          • SSDROiD

            I'm not. I said "majority". Last time I checked, "majority" isn't "everybody". :)

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            You're still implying that that majority likes Google's ecosystem the same as you do, which is most likely not true

          • SSDROiD

            Well, agree to disagree :) I think Android is hugely popular because of Google.

          • AbbyZFresh

            No. It was popular because of its customization, cheaper prices, and variation of screens. Not necessarily Google.

            In fact, there are many Android users who don't even know Google controls Android to start with.

          • SSDROiD

            And the fact that it offers customization and open-source apps couldn't have happened unless Google was part of it. Do remember that Samsung (anti-opensource Samsung) had a chance to take Android before Google did!

          • Gokh

            Its only popular thanks to Samsung and LG.

          • Matevz

            Dude... No.
            C'mon who on earth does not now that?!
            You said: "it was popular because of its customization, cheaper prices and variation of screens"?

            I would say, those who are into customization, definitely know google is the boss of android... If he knows what a launcher is and how to change a sms app and stuff like this, he/she knows a thing or 2 about Android.

            Cheaper prices? What is Android's most selling phone? Samsung Glaxy brand( note included). Whose cost quite a lot...

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Android is hugely popular because Samsung floods the market with a hundred devices per year

          • NinoBr0wn

            If it weren't true, why would they buy and keep an Android phone?

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Because they don't even know that they are using Android, they think they are using Galaxy or something

          • NinoBr0wn

            That's as big an assumption as you are accusing others of.

          • Gokh

            Yeah, i like Android not really Google, and i dont like what Android is becoming, a big Google product :/

          • SSDROiD

            Windows Phone or iPhone is waitin' for ya! I can hear Apple rushing to you in the distance! :P haha

          • grumpyfuzz

            Lol, considering you bought the Nexus phone from GOOGLE.

          • Gokh

            Lol, considering i bought the Nexus phone for the dev community.

          • grumpyfuzz

            For and from are two different things.

          • Pal

            If the dev community is important to you, and if you utilize it correctly, you can have any phone you want. You could install a more AOSP ROM, without Google's customizations. You can install MS' services and disable applications you don't use.

          • Gokh

            Yes but they dont have the same community ;)

          • Marcelove

            Dude, stop being a m0ron... And don't try to be a psychic... Just because someone have an Android phone don't mean that it depends of Google's ecosystem... If you depends, the user with a problem it's you, that dont have open mind to choose other options...

          • abobobilly

            Good luck with that. I'll be more than happy to see your annoyance after epic failures to do certain tasks. Say, using a File Manager to Rename a file, or Sending a file incompatible with the System ... or even the true multitasking (well sort of).

          • CrazyPaladin

            Wow there's a youtube client on WP? I thought they don't have that. Anyway good luck with that.

          • Pal

            You are an edge case. It's not that you are convinced and hopping the fence, you were on the wrong side to begin with.

          • Dominic Rotberg

            Skype is awful since microsoft took over

          • Matevz

            Dude... No.

          • http://googleplus.VoluntaryMan.com/ William Thieme

            you realize that most of those "things that ruin your N4 battery" are there on Windows Phone as well, right? network-based location, background data, etc...

        • Richard Yarrell

          Google isn't God and neither are all there services.

          • SSDROiD

            They're my God :) When I say "Oh my God", I could probably just say "Oh my Google" :P I use a Note 3, though, I don't like the Nexus line, but I still love Google! :D

          • NinoBr0wn

            No, but I sure as hell wouldn't trade them for Windows phone.

        • Marcelove

          Anyone can... Except YouTube, all services that Google offers have an alternative... I'm too gonna give the middle finger to Google and run for WP if the company make this crap move... And hopefully others will do the same... Android reached a level that is far too easy to lose market share and hard to keep growing... I place a bet that a good share of Nexus owners gonna get an iPhone or WP instead this bullsh1t Silver thing...

    • herbivoor

      Maybe an even better is coming :)

    • Pal

      Keeping your partners happy is priceless. Money talks!

    • thartist

      Or of you think as Google: it didn't bring any money, didn't sell by the millions, it was a hassle to keep in production enough to cover the demand and was available in too few countries anyway.
      They had to rethink it and do something that actually meant good business.

      • Fabian Pineda

        "It was in too few countries, so let's trash it and start over in the US only"

        -Google, 2014 according to "theartist".

        • SSDROiD

          Believe it or not, the U.S. is a huge market for starting up services. Don't mock him just because he may think differently than you. I actually agree with him, starting a new program in the U.S. can be very good for the publicity and availability in that single market, but with expanding happening a little later. But what am I saying, it's much more fun to mock him, right?

          • Fabian Pineda

            It's a valid logical resource. I take his argument and make it simpler to see how there is a logical failure.

            "To make it and international success, we'll make it US only"

            This makes no sense. If you think dominating the US will inherently result in an international success (which is false), then the right way is to keep the INTL programs (which aren't making money but neither losing money), advertise and succeed locally, while you retain the logistics to sell overseas, not cutting off overseas entirely.

          • SSDROiD

            I don't think the plan is international success yet, it's only to start it in the U.S. and see how it will do there. It's like a test-market, but a large one at that. That's how I see it. And if it does become a success, then they will probably continue their offshore production. But again, that's in the future. The U.S. is always first when it comes to these types of services/products.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Again, you already have international presence. WHY kill it off? You don't have to cut off your overseas operations/sells to focus on a domestic strategy.

          • SSDROiD

            Maybe it's not being cut off, just not mentioned publicly. Maybe this is all a setup for a huge global introduction, but keeping it under wraps? I have so many thoughts, hahaha.

          • Fabian Pineda

            See, that also bothers me.

            Let's go tinfoil and say they're licensing this through international carriers as well and it's a huge global operation.

            We don't want carrier control. No matter how efficient the service and experience is. We don't want to make commitments to carriers and we don't want to pay high prices for phones outright.

            We want phones that are truly ours to do with as we want. Nexus is that.

  • redsnowfox
  • YUDoDisGoogle

    I cant see myself going back to paying 600+ for a new flagship.
    nexus was perfect for me

    • Nomaan

      And in india nexus 5 costs 600 USD .......duh...and other flagships even more..........

      • oboefiend

        Yeah, well if he doesn't live in India why would he care what the price is there? Not relevant at all.

      • http://mwinter.in/ Yan Gabriel Minário

        Same with Brazil. Flagship phones are always overpriced, Nexus is the only one to have a decent hardware and decent price. Well, were.

      • NinoBr0wn

        So?

      • http://www.youtube.com/crisr82 Kristian Ivanov

        400€ in the EU for the 32GB one, while a Galaxy S4 is around 600€

        • Calvin Uijlen

          Since when? A Galaxy S4 is 350€ for 16GB.

          • http://www.youtube.com/crisr82 Kristian Ivanov

            Spain - carrier free / no contract signing

          • Calvin Uijlen

            I can buy it carrier free, without contract and unlocked for 350€ via internet in The Netherlands. Without strange constructions.

          • MirandaU

            same here in Germany, the S4 is somewhere between 300 and 350 now for the LTE model 9505. Seems like a fair price, given that it only packs a Snapdragon 600 (compared to the 800 in the Nexus 5) and its internal storage is jam-packed with bloatware, so that the 16GB model is more like 7GB, while the Nexus has >12GB of storage.

          • Walkop

            Yeah. An S4.

            I can probably find a Nexus 4 for 150-200€, and it'll run even better. Those phones are always ahead of the curve. Or, were. 😢

        • fabriflash

          The S5 is $680 in Peru, with a 18 month contract

      • JD_26

        actually its 483 for the 16 and 550 for the 32 gb versions

    • hyperbolic

      OnePlus..

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        OnePlus One has a one-off price to spin off a brand. Don't expect them to do it again. They can't continue to lose money on every phone.

        • Samvith V Rao

          Blu-life then

        • Prahlis

          No, but there's a huge step in pricing between say the Galaxy S5 and the 1+1, so pust because they need profit doesn't mean it'll be as expensive as all the other flagship models.

        • Stephan Hall

          Don't believe the "lose money" syndrome. It might be better put "not making the money the could've made" if they would bend their customers over". They aren't losing money .... no one sells devices at a price that is below the "real" cost.

        • William Bouchardon

          The OnePlus One would have been perfect if it wasn't so big. a 4.7-5" phone would have been better

    • Pal

      Hopefully Motorola's X+1 will be reasonably inexpensive.

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      • William Bouchardon

        Yeah, and Motorola apps are lightweight & useful

    • Stephan Hall

      If the future of Nexus phones is indeed finished ...... that creates an opportunity for someone else. I feel certain that there will be other devices that perform and have the great "nexus" like experience going forward. I'm going to enjoy my Nexus 5 until and always be looking for another that will even be better.

      • Circs

        Yep, looks like me and my N5 are sticking it out until this minor poop storm blows over.

    • Stephan Hall

      Exactly? It is rare that I've been this happy wirh a device. The N5 has been the best phone I've had to date.

    • Alex

      I don't think they'd kill off the Nexus program but instead launch Android Silver as well.

      Personally after using a Nexus 5 I won't switch over or use anything that isn't a Nexus.

  • EowynCarter

    Not much nexus sales ? I've seen a bunch of nexus 4 and Nexus 5 while commuting.

    We'll see. If the silver devices have decent support, and decent pricing, might be OK. That's what i care about, long term, bug free updates. So i can use my device for a long time in good condition.

    Right now, my Nexus 4 is in perfect order, no plans to change.

  • jpelgrom

    If this information is correct, and assuming Google sticks to their current announcement schedule, we'll still see a new Nexus tablet, and maybe even a Nexus phone less than 6"?

    • GreenyO

      "Oh, and there won't be a Nexus 6"

      • Karan O

        but what about nexus 5 2014 ?! the numbers indicated their screen size ! so finger crossed for premium android phone alongside NEXUS line !

        • Derp

          The numbers never indicated their screen size on the phones.

          • vyktorsouza

            yeah, sure, the numbers are just 'coincidentially' the same or close to the display size [/sarcasm]

          • Derp

            Nexus 1: 3.7"
            Nexus 2: 4.0"
            Nexus 3: 4.65"
            Nexus 4: 4.7"
            Nexus 5: 4.95"
            What are you even on about?

          • vyktorsouza

            Nexus 1 to 3? that's news to me
            Nexus 4= 4.7
            Nexus 5=5 according to Google's webpage
            Nexus 7=7"
            Nexus 7 (2013)=7" too
            Rumored Nexus 8=8"
            Nexus 10=10

          • Derp

            "On the phones", not on the tablets. The tablet screen sizes do correspond. The N4's screen is closer to 5 than 4. And yes, the first Nexus was called the Nexus 1.

          • vyktorsouza

            it just doesn't make any sense not to believe that's what Google intended to do, denying all that and thinkin they just placed random numbers that correspond to their screen size?

          • Derp

            Going up in order is hardly random. The N4 is the 4th phone, the N5 is the 5th phone.

          • vyktorsouza

            and they're randomly chosen on phones and not on tablets?
            yeah, my opinion/point remains

          • Derp

            Again, not randomly chosen at all. Going up by 1 each time is basically the easiest pattern you could imagine. The tablet line is separate. And I've already shown the screen sizes don't correspond even once.

          • whispy_snippet

            If this were the strategy then the phone and tablet lines were on a naming collision course. We could have seen a Nexus 7 phone and a Nexus 7 tablet. A marketing nightmare and totally ridiculous. The numbers have nothing to do with the order of release. It's a loose indication of screen size.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            What did you expect? Name the Nexus 10 the Nexus 7 because it was technically the seventh Nexus device at the time?

          • whispy_snippet

            Using a number to indicate screen size started with the 2012 N7 and has carried through to the N5. While it may not have been a strategy Google always employed, it definitely does now.

          • Darkbotic

            Yeah, you're right.
            The Nexus One was a 1 inch phone.
            The Nexus S was an S inch phone.
            The Galaxy Nexus was a Galaxy inch phone.
            And the Nexus 4 was a 4 inch phone.

          • vyktorsouza

            talking bout numbers, in my country S and One aren't numerical numbers, why even bother?

  • ghetto McKee

    Nexii are so great they have everything: the hardware, the software and of course the great price.

  • hagen.sal

    I wonder what this means for pricing. If it is the same as the Nexus program I see no particular disadvantage: more choice for us!

    But who am I kidding, it won't..

  • David Margolin

    I know some of us may not like this but it is Duarte's will and we must not step in his way...

  • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

    Bullshit. Pichai confirmed back at CES that Nexus 6 is coming later this year.

    Evleaks is full of shit on this "news"

    • Humberto Hernandez

      Did he say "nexus 6"?

      eh?

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        http://news.yahoo.com/sundar-pichai-talks-nexus-6-galaxy-s6-more-142051159.html

        "More interestingly, without confirming actual launch details for the next Nexus smartphone, he did say that such a phone will not hit stores in the first half of the year, hinting the device may be launched in the second half of the year"

        • http://communityfirstdigital.co.uk/ Luke Arran

          Plans can change.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Like I said on Pocketnow, I'll believe it when I see it. The I/O will give us all the information on Nexus/Silver plans Google has now, no point in empty speculation about G killing their best creation they ever had

          • @evleaks

            Hardly empty speculation. Numerous sources have previously said basically the same thing. Nexus is dead. I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm sure you will find other phones to enjoy just as much.

          • SSDROiD

            "Nexus is dead"

            Fanboy rage incoming in 5... 4... 3... well, this whole thread is basically filled with fanboy rage already, so nevermind the countdown XD

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Only if some company brings me the same Nexus-like device, with AOSP, day-1 updates, no bloat and unlockable bootloader.

            Otherwise, I'll have to stick with Nexus 5 (or 6, which should come out, at least I hope so) and stay with it forever

        • Phil Oakley

          So he didn't 'confirm' anything. He just said that the next Nexus was not coming in H1 2014.

          Also, the source on this is BGR. Which means it probably isn't reputable.

    • GazaIan

      evleaks has always been pretty on point with their leaks...

      • silaslenz

        Not about Google.

    • Sam Hollis

      He also said a new Nexus 10 was on the way.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      We're talking specifically about the term Nexus 6 not happening here. And Silver replacing Nexus next year. There could still be a Nexus 5 and 7-8-9-10 refreshes this year.

      • andy_o

        He did also say "goodbye Nexus" and regardless, by "no Nexus 6", we all know what he meant.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Goodbye Nexus in the long term maybe. I'm fully expecting Nexuses this year.

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        Even if there is a chance of Google actually doing a refreshments of those devices, then what's the point in investing the resources into them when Google is gonna kill of the lineup anyway by bringing this "Silver" out?

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Because Silver is not planned until 2015? They need to put out at least one phone and one tablet this year, just like they have done every year.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            but is it really that necessary?

          • whispy_snippet

            It's probably as much a matter of contractual obligation than anything else. Parts will have been ordered, carrier deals signed, etc. Better to fulfill the contacts and recover the costs through sales than scrap the whole Nexus line prematurely at an unnecessary loss.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      I'm confident in the quality of evleaks' information. That's all I can say.

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        Well I am not, I simply can't believe that Google is THAT stupid to ruin everything they were building these past 5 years since the first Nexus device appeared

        • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

          What HAVE they been building, though? I mean outside of our small, niche, enthusiast community? I LOVE the Nexus, but I don't find it at all impossible that Google would burn it down to rebuild something that's more beneficial to them, and their platform as a whole, in the long run.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            They have been building the customer base that bought the devices with Google's vision of Android and even more intergration into Google's ecoystem and the OS than on any other lineup. Destroying the Nexi and limiting to one country as with GPE devices and carrier butchering is clearly the not more beneficial way, let alone the probability of higher pricerange for Silver devices than for Nexi. Thre is no way I am going to pay a 1000$ for, let's say, HTC One M8 when I can get Nexus 5 for half-that sum

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            And that customer base is TINY. It's a drop in the bucket. We feel like we're the center of the universe because we're the few people passionate enough to argue over Nexus devices in the comment threads of an Android blog. We're not. We're one of the smallest segments of Android ownership there is.

            The point of Silver is to do EXACTLY what you're complaining they're throwing away in the first sentence, but on a grander scale. To shift Google's vision of Android and integration to MORE than just ONE device a year. I'm sick of having only ONE device option a year that will give me the experience I want. I've loved the Nexus 4 and 5, but I wouldn't touch an S or Galaxy Nexus before them, and some other hardware features from competitors have definitely caught my eye.

            And how do YOU know they're limiting it to only one country? We know next to NOTHING about this yet, and it's not even confirmed. $1000? GPE devices aren't $1000. They're priced the same as the unsubsidized models they're based off of. And the Silver program, unlike GPE, will allow people to buy these phones through their carriers, using their subsidies and finance programs to make them affordable. That's a HUGE win for Google and stock Android, because it brings it to the masses. And that's therefore a win for us, because it puts our beloved stock experience potentially in the hands of everyone, ensuring it's a first-class citizen for once instead of an unusual oddity.

            This is Google's path to giving us what we've been moaning about not having: stock Android on nearly every device. Faster updates, stock experience, superior hardware. And I'm pretty sure this route was the only way to make it possible. I can all but guarantee that as Google was working with OEMs to get them interested in the GPE program, the most common complaints were, "we can't compete with ourselves by selling our phone on your store for less than everyone else, but how do you expect us to compete with YOUR own phone being sold at less than half the price? And how is it worth it for us to commit these resources to making a phone that will be sold on only one niche online store?"

            This is the solution to both problems. Drop the competition that scares them, and push ALL the phones into all the carrier stores.

            As sad as we should be to see the Nexus potentially go away, this will provide us exactly what we've been wanting for a while, and will push Google's vision forward in a way the Nexus program could NEVER, EVER achieve.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            In Russia we don't have GPE devices because the Devices hasn't reached us, and probably never will. And for example new S5 and M8 both cost about 1000$ each.

            I have no desire nor the budget to spend that much money on a phone that I will probably change in a year or two, that is also why Nexus is my savior in the world of Android

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            Then you and I have very different needs and priorities, which informs our different perspectives. As a consumer in the US, this isn't as much of a concern for me. I can see why it is for you, though. Hopefully phones like the Moto G, which will surely end up in the Silver line, will help you out, and hopefully this is only the very beginning, assuming they are launching in the US. It's certainly a matter of finding support in each country as they go.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Yeah, because after 5 Nexii, availability is sooooo much better now. It'll obviously get better after 5 more years after they have to start from zero again.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            But they won't have to start from zero again. Not even close. By taking phones that ALREADY EXIST, like in the GPE program, and working with the OEMs to merely provide the stock Android experience, the supply issue mostly goes away. They don't have to design and manufacture different hardware, which is the largest sticking point of the entire process. Also, by spreading interest across FIVE devices possibly from five different manufacturers, you further reduce the severe load on any one of them.

          • Fabian Pineda

            So you're saying that when and if Silver comes up and if it is what we think it'll be, it's going to be immediatly or promptly offered internationally? Because if that was the case, we'd have the same digital media consumption offers everywhere, the same prices and service everywhere and we'd all sit in a circle and sing Kumbaya.

            There is much work to be done to license and sign deals with all the parties involved, which was done with the Nexus program, and if it's scrapped will have to be negotiated once again. Internationally, that is.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            My comment had nothing to do with the international aspect.

            But you're also comparing apples to oranges here. Digital media consumption offers, pricing, and services differ dramatically from region to region in ways that have NOTHING whatsoever to do with whether or not they can sell HARDWARE somewhere else. The legalities of online sales programs, banking, and all sorts of other factors limit the types of things you're talking about, along with differing carrier policies. It's a lot easier, though, to sell HARDWARE somewhere else. Certainly as easy as it was to sell the Nexus anywhere else. It mainly relies on Google having a presence there at all, and the manufacturer putting in the effort to make it available. As well, I imagine with Google doing most of the work on the software, and it not being loaded down with OEM bloatware, localization won't be as much of a concern, either.

            I can't speak for why GPE wasn't international, and I have no way of predicting how they'll handle that yet. But this program will open that door much, much better than we've had before, minus the Nexus directly. And now that we have devices like the Moto G, Nexus becomes even less necessary.

          • Fabian Pineda

            If selling the Nexus everywhere was so easy, why wasn't it done? There are obvious kinks to work referring to licensing, branding, et cetera. They were being worked. If the Nexus brand dies, that work is history.

            Silver will probably not be an international program, and I guess that's fine, but let's stop pretending the Nexus brand isn't important and the catastrophe of it being axed.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            I'm confused. Was the Nexus being sold everywhere or not? You initially made it sound as though it was, and we're going to lose that now, and now you're acting as though it wasn't.

            The Nexus, being one device, takes work to get approval in every country, not to mention work to DESIGN it for every country. But the Silver program, by selecting pre-existing phones and partners to get the Silver touch, doesn't necessarily have that problem. Google can simple grace a phone that already has each country's equivalent of FCC approval and has passed any other regulatory hurdles and simply work to provide an alternative version of it. Dramatically easier, and faster route than starting from scratch with a new device of their own every year.

          • Fabian Pineda

            You know very well that Nexus phones were being sold in a large variety of places. Certainly not all places, but it was a fresh change from US only. Plus their accessible cost made it easy to import into places were the Play Store wasn't available.

            Silver is going to be US only, and it has an explicit and implicit carrier stranglehold attached and probably a rather Silverish cost. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. For the program to be expanded Google doesn't wiggle a magic wand it's suddenly approved to go live in all the magical places Google lays eyes on.

            It has a DESIGN cost, a licensing cost, a branding cost, a logistics cost, a human cost. Add to that the fact that Google has no control whatsoever on what carriers/shops can do outside the US to ruin the experience, and this program IS ALL ABOUT the experience.

            It looks like the Verizon GNex all over just waiting to happen.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            My confusion was over your wording. Yes, I'm well aware it was being sold everywhere, but then why did you ask why it wasn't being done? You contradicted yourself there.

            And no, we know NOTHING at this point. Seriously. We have rumors and leaks. We certainly know NOTHING about their carrier agreements. I feel an extremely high level of confidence that most if not all of these phones will be available directly from the Play Store without a contract, unlocked, as always, in ADDITION to being sold by carriers. That's not the sort of thing Google backpedals on fully.

            The design cost is next to nil, as it's about using the Silver program on ALREADY-DESIGNED hardware. It becomes simply a matter of developing the OS for it. I doubt licensing costs will be a consideration, as the licensing costs would normally go TO Google, and I suspect a large part of this Silver program is about Google canceling out those costs in order to further their OS. The rest of those costs are all part of the STANDARD costs of doing business, and don't elevate the difficulty in selling it internationally any more than anywhere else.

            And why would they have no control over what carriers and shops outside the US do to ruin the experience? They'd have the same amount of control as here if they're running the Silver program. The agreements remain the same. I don't understand that point at all.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Yeah and the Verizon Galaxy Nexus was a real Nexus.

            It looks like we've reached an impasse. You're fully sold on the idea that we don't need pure Android, real open sourced phones at affordable prices that are continuously expanded to sell in more places. And it doesn't look like anything will change your mind about this horrible idea being awesome.

            I believe the Nexus program can coexist with Silver and that what's being slashed is GPe, which makes much more sense, given GPe didn't go outside the US and Silver is a carrier and OEM collaboration IN THE US (with potential to expand in a couple of years, 2-3 tops) for retail and after sale that would boost sells, a GPe 2.0 if you will.

            But hey, whatever you say it's probably right.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            Your entire second paragraph is a strawman. I never said anything remotely similar to that. Nothing. Stick to arguing against things I wrote and positions I actually hold.

            I don't believe the Nexus program can successfully exist alongside Silver. I don't believe the OEMs will trust Google's conflict of interest enough to participate in the program if both are running. And I don't believe we can see their vision properly realized if they're still focused on Nexus instead of expanding true Android to more devices.

            This is clearly going nowhere. You've turned me into a caricature of an anti-open source villain who stands against everything the Nexus is about. I'm no such person. I love the Nexus program, and I believe in it deeply. But I also know it's not enough, has never been enough, and Android needs more. I'm a realist, I understand this, and I'm willing to accept the necessity of it to further our interests as Android fans. My phone options, and the success of pure Android, along with proper support from it, hinge upon this Silver program in a way Nexus could never have sustained. If it's necessary to kill Nexus to improve Android, as a whole, for everyone, I'm willing to accept that.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Totally. You're absolutely right. There is no arguing with that logic.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Except the Nexus program was supposed to give the vision of Android to everyone so that they wouldn't have to commit to carriers?

            How exactly a "TINY" portion of the market scares OEMs?

            And now we're supposed to be happy that a solid $300-400 phone is going away because we'll be able to suck it from a carrier*...?

            *Applies to USA only

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            I don't think its specific goal was so that people wouldn't have to commit to carriers. And they still won't have to. I'll be quite shocked if these aren't just as available from the Play Store, unlocked, as ever. But a very, very small percentage of the market buys their phones off contract. We're still applying our view of phone ownership to a much larger picture, and that's unreasonable.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Oh yeah, they'll totally be in the Play Store. You can pick up a Moto G, a solid, yet not state of the art tech or a Silver device costing 3 times as much.

            It's clearly a win-win.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            By the way, what was the point of releasing a GPE edition of Moto G? The stock Moto G firmware is already almost Nexus-like with a couple of additions..?

    • @evleaks

      Once this pans out, will you apologize to me? Not for being wrong, of course, but for lowering the level of discourse beyond the rim of the toilet bowl...

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        First you edit people's comments on your own site you don't like, then you threatened to ban me, and now you're asking for an apology?

        How about you go fuck yourself?

        • @evleaks

          I'd be frustrated, too, getting news I don't like from someone I hate. Am sorry that life has dealt you such a shitty hand.

    • Riley Biers

      LOL @ you

  • xbukowskyx

    R.I.P. glorius nexus!! don't do it google pleaseeeeeeee!!! i bought them all!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/crisr82 Kristian Ivanov

    I just hope the Nexus tablet-line stays. While many would disagree, I personally believe the biggest advantage of a Nexus device was the price for the hardware if offered.

    • Sundeep Vallabhajosyula

      I don't think anybody would disagree with you on that! It'll be a sad day if this rumour becomes reality and we have no more Nexus phones.

  • ncs

    so long awesome, affordable devices... :(

  • Scott

    This is unfortunate about the Nexus line. You could get an awesome phone for a very reasonable price. Sounds like this "Silver" stuff is all going to be those ridiculously priced $500-600+ phones sold off contract. This is very disappointing.

  • Rob Cook

    Well, hopefully the Silver line won't bring a Silver price tag. Otherwise I'm hoping that One+ starts to offer a smaller phone, 5.5" is phablet territory I'd rather have a Note and stylus if I'm going that large, 4.7-5" is perfect with a One+1 price to match.

  • Jephri

    I was major underwhelmed by the nexus 5. Really not that heartbroken.

  • sivkai

    Very dissapointing news. Can someone confirm how likely this is? Evleaks is right pretty much all the time :/

    • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

      100% unlikely

  • Peter ‘Firefox’ Fox

    Will be really unhappy is this is the case, I understand the move but not doing at least a Nexus 6 before discontinuing is stupid and might actually make me consider going the iPhone route because I've had little success with non nexus devices.

    Long term this probably needs to happen but lets be honest, unless there's a real guarantee of good software and update support from this Silver program there's no point to this at all.

  • ThomasMoneyhon

    Everyone is complaining about price, but there is 3 things carriers will demand that make android silver unusable (at least for me, and likely you if you are reading this) and NOT like a nexus. Bootloader locked, Bloat (even the verizon nexus had contact backup, iPhone doesnt get that) and day 1 updates (there will be delays because Carriers like att and verizon will never allow google to push out an update straight to devices without carrier certification, apple and the nexus devices get day 1 updates.

    SAD SAD SAD

    • Humberto Hernandez

      I don't care about carriers...

      • http://mwinter.in/ Yan Gabriel Minário

        You should. They're big ass motherfckers.

        • Humberto Hernandez

          That's why i buy unlocked devices

    • http://www.theveboy.com/ Mehdi

      "Oh and the code for a silver device will SURELY not be open sourced like nexus devices have every bit of their code done."

      False. "Android Open-Source Project" is something, "Google Experience" is something else.

      • Fabian Pineda

        AOSP isn't the open code he's referring to. In order to adapt the AOSP code to a functional ROM you need drivers. Nexus drivers are open, ensuring development.

        Carrier and OEM phones don't always have such open drivers.

        • http://www.theveboy.com/ Mehdi

          Nah. It's one of the prerequisites for OEMs to participate in Silver program. They're silver-branded, but made by those OEMs. pretty much like Nexus. Did GP Edition devices had their drivers available freely BTW ?

          • Fabian Pineda

            It's one of the requisites? Says who? The GPe phones didn't have all those advantages Nexus do in terms of open source. You seriously expect Samsung to open source th drivers for their flagship?

            That's the cutest thing I've ever heard.

          • http://www.theveboy.com/ Mehdi

            "Says who" ? Man the whole Silver project is just a rumor, and in those rumors, someone said that it's going to replace Nexus. So, if you believe there is a Silver program happening, you really can't argue with other rumors and leaks just about the project. Google is NOT stupid. They know what people love about Nexus, they're not going to ruin it.

            And once again, it won't be "Samsung-branded", even if Samsung manufactures it, this "Silver" team is going to take care of the other stuff. INCLUDING the software part. I never had a Nexus, but 2 Nexus phones were manufactured by Sammy. I don't think those were on closed-source drivers. I might be wrong though, since I never owned any of them nor had them in my hands.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Uh no...

            Your understanding of the Silver project is that it's going to replace Nexus and keep all of the benefits that Nexus has and OEMs never bothered to opt for. That's adorable but not gonna happen.

            Even in the case of the two Nexus made by Samsung that you mention, branding was present. Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus mean anything to you? Yeah. Branding.

            The drivers were open sourced, yes, but Samsung never saw these Nexus as their own phones when they had at the time the S, S2 and S3 which were absolutely closed. Much in the same way LG doesn't embrace the Nexus4 and Nexus5 as its own, but at least LG parted with branding.

            So don't kid yourself. Let's think the S5 gets a Silver medal. It'll still say Samsung. It'll still feel Samsung, it'll still look Samsung. Samsung would never agree to debrand their phones when they are so desperate for achieving success. Neither Sony, LG or HTC. And even less open up their drivers for a Silver S5 when that implies opening their drivers for their regular S5.

            Your whole argument comes from the fact that you suppose Google won't ruin it for their fans, even after they have a clear history of ruining products their fans loved. If they didn't want to ruin their phones, they wouldn't shut down Nexus in the first place and get in bed with carriers and OEMs.

            This is the VZW GNex just waiting to repeat itself.

          • http://www.theveboy.com/ Mehdi

            I won't argue with you anymore, because I've ran out of sources. We Still don't have a clear idea of Silver program and my "argument" was just a guess based on what I see as common sense. By Branding, I mean the fact that people call iPhone "Apple iPhone" and Nexus 5 " Google Nexus 5 " instead of "Foxconn iPhone" or "LGE Nexus 5". Of course their name is present on the device, but they're NOT branding it, just producing it. Though this might not be the case in Nexus cases, but you see my point. Product management is on Google, not LG.

            "If they didn't want to ruin their phones, they wouldn't shut down Nexus in the first place"

            They just want to make it better and because the change is so rational, they taught a cool new name would match it.

    • http://ignaciozippy.com/ Ignacio Zippy

      THIS. Silver seems like the complete opposite of Nexus.

  • TheSparks

    Tbh I'm okay with this, as long as it's open source like Nexus devices and has a Nexus price range. As it says the software updates are controlled by Google, so no problem in that.

  • vyktorsouza

    "they represent a very small portion of Android devices sold, even in the United States."
    as far as I know, that's what Google wanted since the beginning, hence why they don't promote it, because if they did promote the Nexus line, we all know they would sell so much more

  • http://www.twitter.com/ninjustin ninjustin

    Well we have both good near stock Android devices on the market and good cheap unlocked devices so there's not a ton of reason for them to keep working with manufactures on them. I loved my Nexus phones but I'm personally ready to go with other manufactures phones for what the Nexus phones don't bring to the table.

  • Guest

    Off topic but Is this htc flounder / nexus 8 ? It has holo blue status icons by the way....

    • Michael J Carroll

      I think it could just be a GPE tablet... Evleaks and Android Police have confused GPE Ave Nexus before, probably because the certification processes are done pretty similarly.

      • Phil Oakley

        There's no HTC tablet though. The last one was the Flyer or the Jetstream.

        Unless HTC have a new tablet coming in the next month (which isn't impossible...just seems relatively unlikely) plus with all the leaks about a HTC Nexus tablet...I think it could be one of the big I/O announcements.

    • http://www.twitter.com/italofigueired Italo F.

      It isn't a Nexus 10?

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        It is, look at the speakers and the buttons

  • Zak Taccardi

    this makes me so sad. I love my nexus :(

  • Nomaan

    Off topic: is this htc flounder/nexus 8? It has holo blue status icons btw.

    • Corey Watford

      Sadly its a Nexus 10 from last year IO

  • Ahmad Nadeem

    Quite frankly it might just be what they need to promote vanilla android at a larger scale

    Nexus devices have a popularity in a very few countries..........many don't even get an opportunity to buy one. Only the Nexus 5(and N4 to some extent) have got some sales.

    Indian people, for example, didn't know much of Nexus devices before the Nexus 5. Followers of tech news might disagree, but we are a small fraction of Android users

    IF they get this right, and for a tiers of devices, Android Silver could be just what they need

  • jer85008

    Honestly, I think we will get one more Nexus device before the Silver program launches. If the N6 comes in November, that's four months before the Silver Launch. That's a long time in this business. If all this happens, remember that we will have lots more choices of budget devices now - One plus, Moto X, etc.

    • EowynCarter

      Yes, but, what about updates ??

      I don't care much about being first to get an update, but i want them,and in reasonable time.
      Too many middle-end low-end phones aren't updated at all, even for bugfixes !

      • SSDROiD

        I think this Silver program can be a fresh breath of air in the updates part of Android. So many people complain about not getting updates. I think fast updates actually might become one of the selling points of devices in the Silver program.

        • EowynCarter

          True, on that point, it's a good idea.

          But even a silver phone, I will NOT spend 600 euros on a phone.

          • SSDROiD

            No one is forcing you to buy one either, and we don't even know the price yet, at least not from what I've read.

          • EowynCarter

            I'll be having a hard time going back to a feature phone ;)

            I owed 4 phone, my nexus 4 was the only one that i'm fully happy with.
            One year later, still working, still fluid, no broken features.
            Still un-rooted, because hey, don't need to mess up to have stuff working.

            But then, it's true it's all rumors, let's wait and see.

          • SSDROiD

            It must suck to be a Nexus-user. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, lovin' it (sue me! :P) and with no plans on switching to a Nexus device. Maybe the Silver program intrigues me, but there is no way I'm going on the Nexus train (come at me haters!)

          • EowynCarter

            What is it you don't like with nexus devices ?

            I considered the note (note 2 back then), then looked at the price, not in my budget.

            I don't really understand how one could hate phone / manufactuers. That's stupid IMHO.

          • SSDROiD

            From my experience, the Nexus line has poor specs, such as bad cameras, no innovative hardware, poor battery, and they're suited more towards developers than consumers. They have a lack of SD-card, as well as removable batteries, and they only offer a very specific size, unlike OEMs who offer multiple sizes for different people. I don't hate Nexus at all, quite frankly I love that they are available, but the devices are lackluster in specs (in my opinion) and I can't understand how they can fit anyone's daily usage. I see people everywhere hoping for bigger and better batteries or cameras only to be disappointed, when OEMs do give people exactly the specs they want and yet people still rage towards OEMs. I feel that's very unfair. I genuinely feel that the Nexus line designed towards developers, not consumers.

          • AbbyZFresh

            It was always been designed for developers from the beginning. It was originally designed to showcase Google's vision on what Android should look like to give developers a base to develop apps on.

            It wasn't until the Nexus 4(or even the Galaxy Nexus to an extent) that the brand itself started to become a hit among consumers.

          • SSDROiD

            Oh, well, thanks for confirming my theory! :)

          • Rod

            They have no lag, that's the magic.

          • SSDROiD

            Hahaha that's probably very true, that is the magic key the Nexus line has going for it! :)

          • EowynCarter

            Yup, that was the point of the nexus line, they are developers phones, but i am a developer, so ;)

            Crappy battery ? Hold better than my previous phones.
            Camera, true, but I own a real camera ;) Still best my previous phones anyway.

            Sd card, I got used to it, just like i did MTP. That's what was keeping me away from the nexus at first.
            After the mess google did wih kitkat, it's a bit of a "deal with it" situation anyway :(

            I don't care about specs and pure power, as long as what I want to use works.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            So many wrong points I don't even know where to start

          • SSDROiD

            I'd love to hear your input on the matter, but be aware this is largely subjective. For example, you may not need removable batteries, but I do. That doesn't make any of us "wrong". But once again, give me your input if you have any!

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            >Nexus line has poor specs
            The Nexus devcies have pretty much almost top-mid tier hardware components, and they don't fall behind the industry as far as CPUs, RAM amounts, connectivity capabilities and sreen resolutions go. Besides, since they run AOSP - they don't need the latest and greatest, there is simply nothing that drains that much perfomance unlike TouchWiz for example

            >Bad cameras
            Cameras are okay-ish. If you are getting a phone just because it has a superior camera - you're buying it for the wrong reason. In my experience, N4-N7-N10 make decent pics, that are enough for me. If I wanted to go super-high quality - I'd get a DSLR of some sort

            >No innovative hardware
            That it not up to Google to include such specs, and the pricerange simply does not allow to put the new and untested tech into Nexi, it would make Google and the OEM lose money on every device sold, and what good is that?

            >Suited more for developers than consumers
            That is very subjective. Some people like the simplicity and purity of AOSP, others want to have close-to-stock Xperia UI, the rest may want style with Sense or go all-out with TouchWiz, but I do notice that Nexi seem to have the biggest dev communities out there

            >Lack SD-card
            Again - it's not critical for everyone. If people need additional storage - there are other devices/OEMs who provide that. For me, the storage I have on my Nexi is just about enough, as I don't listen to music offline nor watch movies (call me when Hollywood makes a decent film, kthxbye), but I do feel that additional storage option (64GB at least) would be more plausible. Can never have too much space, right?

            >Removable batteries
            Never had an occasion when I would need to force-remove the battery out of the device. Unless you run into some kind of a system freeze/crash, of course, but AOSP is that stable that you don't face that kind of situation, except for maybe playing with experimental ROMs or kernels, but Nexi have a VOL- + POWER button combo for rebooting

            >Offer a very specific size
            Maybe that's true, but people tend to also follow the trends, which is big screens these days, so big that we have devices like Xperia Z Ultra with almost-tablet like screen size. And, as you stated, if a device is intended more for developers - would they really care for the size then?
            That, and I doubt Google has enough recources in its mobile department unlike Samsung that throws 20 devices in every possible category and pricepoint

            >How they fit daily usage
            They fit mine pretty well, I'd say. The perfomance is great, the battery life lets me to go through a whole day at university (which is about from 4 up to 9 hours, the screens are great, and I'm always happy to see when there's a new Android update available within a few days after it started the rollout across the globe, unlike other OEMs who can forget about certain devices forever or update them to a least fresh OS version (like HTC with Desire S that got only up to 4.0.4 officially not two years ago)

  • Albytrozz

    Every and all of my Android phones has been a Nexus since the Nexus One. I wasn't interested in massive carrier branding, skins, etc and wanted an unlocked hackable phone to put custom ROMs on.

    I'm really struggling to figure out why they would start this 'Silver' program or how it'll affect ROM development, but all I can say is it is perfect timing for me to switch to OnePlus One like I was planning anyway... at least Cyanogen doesn't pump the phone full of bloated useless corporate crapware.

    Good luck with this program Google, but you lost someone who bought every Nexus except the S.

    Alby

    • SSDROiD

      "I'm really struggling to figure out why they would start this 'Silver' program"

      Because the average man doesn't know what the hell Nexus is. They know what HTC, Sony, Samsung phones are. Hell, I maintain that a very large portion of Android users have no idea they're using an Android phone. This might be Google's first true attempt to get the public aware of their devices and get some market share with their own devices. Let's face it, with Samsung dominating the Android market, the average man in the street has no interest in a Nexus device. I think this Silver program can change that.

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        How about Google tries to actually promote Nexus devices PROPERLY? You know, on their own stores, on their sites, in their apps, and in ads on the webs and streets?

        Obviously people will never learn about Nexus lineup if Google doesn't tell anybody about it

        But fuck no, instead they are gonna scrap the lineup completely and start a new one

        • AbbyZFresh

          I see Nexus posters in every Staples and Best Buy stores. Even T-Mobile has Nexus advertisements. Clearly people don't care about it.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Obviously that's not enough

        • SSDROiD

          I think the Nexus line was intended towards developers from the very beginning, not towards consumers. That's why I don't think Google had any interest in promoting the devices. When Google Play Edition and soon Android Silver comes along, that's when Google will really start promotion. I might be wrong, but that's how I think it is.

  • momulah

    Android Silver overtakes Nexus. Project Ara becomes the center of Attention and Resources going forward for that next gen. leap in the smartphone arena.

  • Marcelove

    Google shouldn't expect me buying any new Android so... Time to give a chance to WP... And I hope all Nexus owners do the same to show Google that if he's giving us the middle finger, we gonna give it back to him...

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    • SSDROiD

      Oh my God, seriously?

    • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

      Is Google a person now?

      • abobobilly

        Technically, Companies are considered a "Single Entity" so yeah, you can call it a "Person" as well.

        • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

          you learn something new every day, huh

      • AbbyZFresh

        I think he's giving the finger to Page's face.

    • AbbyZFresh

      Fun Fact: Nexus enthusiast are only a small minoirty of Android users. Remember Samsung and LG still dominate. Google won't lose much if you leave Android.

    • TopXKiller

      lol Windows Phone

  • Andrew Loiacono

    Looks like I will have to upgrade my Nexus 4 to the rumored Moto x+1

  • Fiorta

    Hopefully the price point stays in line with Nexus devices

  • Huton Gergö

    So my problem starts here "nearly stock Android with minimal software additions" I want pure android whit 0 crapware! aka Nexus!

    • SSDROiD

      Software additions doesn't have to mean bloatware. It could just mean minor UI changes.

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        Or wiping out some features like Download Booster on carrier versions of Galaxy S5

    • Trysta

      I'm with you. I didn't even like some of the stuff Motorola added to their Moto X. That phone (at least on verizon) is constantly nagging you with notifications to use their software mods. It felt like bloatware honestly because I (and my boyfriend who owns the phone) never use active assistant etc. On my nexus 5 there are no surprises and I like it that way.

    • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

      You know, I can call some GAPPS crapware as well

      • grumpyfuzz

        At least you can root your nexus very easily and delete them. With Silver, we don't know if that will be easy.

        • SSDROiD

          "we don't know" is the key here. How about we wait before we complain and rage war?

          • grumpyfuzz

            If they are tied to carriers, I'm very doubtful.

          • SSDROiD

            Maybe this is the first time carriers will have no power over a device? *conspiracy theory* hahaha

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Only if Google does an Apple on carriers

          • Fabian Pineda

            Isn't this cute? Thinking carriers can be hustled.

    • Rafael Luik

      Nexus never was pure Android a.k.a. AOSP.

  • Trysta

    Do you think Google would also do the silver program for tablets? Android tablets are even worse than phones when it comes to after purchase support. I've seen Samsung hardware that I've really liked but then I try the store model and touchwiz lag on their moderately specced tablets makes me cringe and I stick with my Nexus 7. I think Android silver for tablets could actually be a much better thing than android silver for phones.

  • Nathan Bryant

    I love how people's assumptions are "fact" and they like to complain.

    • SSDROiD

      It's both hilarious and sad how people's reactions are. From these comments, it's almost like people here are ready to go out and make World War III over this.

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        Pretty much, yeah. Or do do expect them go switch from Nexus to Galaxy lineup?

        • SSDROiD

          Nope, I expect people to act more mature than to rage war this early. We haven't even seen what the Silver line has to offer, and people are already waging war.

  • http://mwinter.in/ Yan Gabriel Minário

    HALP OnePlus!

  • Imadroid

    Think moto x, Google owned Motorola when it was released and that device has seen very quick updates even though it's sold through carrier stores

    • AbbyZFresh

      Moto X is different. It got quick updates because Motorola's new philosophy was sticking to stock android to ensure quick updates. Google had nothing to do with Moto X in the update process.

    • Android Developer

      I wonder how well moto X did compared to Nexus 5, and how long it will get new updates compared to it.

  • Richard Yarrell

    Nexus has always sucked monkey balls period finally it's been put out to pasture.

    No more bargain basement products for shoppers who hate to spend money yearly.

    No more putrid battery life, crappy camera, and crappy storage options. At the end of the day NOBODY will miss this product Google didn't make any money anyway.

    • grumpyfuzz

      Awaiting shut up, Richard.

    • SSDROiD

      Essentially a much more cruel way of saying what I told someone in a reply earlier, hahaha. I can't help but agree, this is really what it is! *waits for haters to rage war on me and Richard* :P

  • siddude11

    JustRightInTheFeels

  • Fabian Pineda

    I'm torn between two stances here, because evleaks is close to the truth most of the times, but I maintain a degree of skepticism about this because from a business point, this makes absolutely no sense.

    It's as if Google is ready to renounce its belief of no compromise-affordable phones, open source, timely updates, unlocking, modding and not letting customers fall into the clutches of carriers, trashing down their entire efforts to bring the Play Store devices around the world to start over, more expensive, anti-consumer and US only.

    It makes. No. Sense.

    • SSDROiD

      I probably have more to say, but just for the record, Google is still bringing Play Devices to countries around the world. That effort hasn't stopped. In fact, I'm willing to say their progress has been boosted by the Google Play Edition devices and Android Silver.

      • Fabian Pineda

        The rumor has it that Silver will be US only. GPe is US only. Nexus is international. Remove Nexus and you're removing International Android Devices presence.

        Get your facts checked

        https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2462844?hl=en

        • AbbyZFresh

          It's only a rumor.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Yeah, but what is nerd life without speculation.

        • SSDROiD

          First off, they didn't update the countries on the webpage when they were rolling out Play Music All Access until it was actually available either. They wait to update the webpage until the service is actually available.

          Second, I said they are still bringing Play Devices to other countries, I didn't say they are available in other countries yet. Take a deep breath and calm down before you accuse me of having my facts wrong, when recent history has shown they do things in specific ways.

          • Fabian Pineda

            I advice you to go back and read a little about what Silver is supposed to be. You think if Silver comes out they'll kill of the Nexus line but keep the GPe devices?

            Silver is supposed to become the full extent of Google's mobile strategy. Which means they're scrapping off what they currently have and start in the US only. And given the program is supposed to feature actual physical support and aftersale, it's unlikely to come out of the States.

            And let's assume they manage to getting it worked internationally. How long do you think it'll take to expand? How long has it taken so far?

            So, yeah. They'd be slaughtering, even if temporarily, their international presence. That's why I think it doesn't make sense, but that's because I look at the big picture.

          • SSDROiD

            Well, I have one word for you, and you're probably gonna hate it: OEMs. They're international, and in fact, they are the majority of the Android devices in use! So Google's "international presence" is not at all slaughtered by this. I have no problems with Google taking a long time to make Play Devices available in other countries, I waited a very long time for Play Music All Access as well, and now that I finally have it, I love it! But unlike Spotify, which I disliked, I actually do like OEMs and I would have no problem sticking with them if Nexus disappears!

          • Fabian Pineda

            I do, and it seems many people seem to have a problem with OEMs too.

            You know what I mean when I say Google's intl presence is getting axed. It's that feeling of going from a wide list of countries that can buy the Nexus phones to just one. And it isn't even a Nexus. It's disheartening.

            OEMs Android != Google's Android.

            Remember that.

          • hp420

            2 words: unlockable bootloader. Not all GPE devices are easily unlocked like a nexus...in fact, none of them unlock like a nexus, except the LG GPad GPE. The rest either use some proprietary method provided by the OEM, or rely on community-driven hacks to get inside and unlock it. The silver line is described exactly the same as the GPE line, except now they will be retail and offer support for the devices. That's it. This would be the death of open development devices from Google.

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Let alone that Play Store Devices are limited to, like, 7 countries in the world, and others have no possibilities of purchasing Nexus or GPE devices, leaving them to either go Sony/LG/Samsung/HTC way, ot switch to a whole another platform completely

    • Fatal1ty_93_RUS
    • Android Developer

      What if some of the rumors are incorrect, and the Silver line will be global, and contain all of the benefits you've mentioned of the Nexus line?

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        Then it's literally a rebirth of GPE program that Google failed to deliver because of the international limitation. I'd get a couple of GPE devices myself, but the very fact that I don't live in neither of the countries that Play Store Devices is available leaves me with no chance f acquiring those, luckily we have Nexus in Russia

        • Android Developer

          Now that I think about it, why did it fail?
          I was sure it will be a matter of time till it gets international.
          What happened that stopped it?
          Was there a low demand?

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            I think the problems of GPE program are:
            - it is limited to countries where Play Store Devices is available, meaning you can't get a GPE device via a retail network
            - the choice of GPE devices is very poor. Two last year's flagships, one Phablet, one tablet
            - no marketing outside Google I/O whatsoever
            - the price is higher than for a Nexus device
            - you are getting basically a Nexus without a Nexus branding inside a body of Z Ultra/S4/One M7/G Pad 8.3, so these devices don't really stand out among others because they lack the original OEM skin they came with, that's why, for example, a GPE version of S5 would not utilize the fingerprint scanner and the heart rate monitor because AOSP does not support them natively, making both of the features useless

          • Android Developer

            According to what I read now , it's even more expensive than the normal editions.
            How could this be?

          • Fabian Pineda

            Of course there is low demand. Who wants to buy an S4 without the full features of the S4? How is it going to sell well, even in the states for more than $600 when you can pick up one in a carrier for just bending over.

          • Android Developer

            It has the same cost?!
            Now that I've checked, it's even more expensive...
            Why did they do it?

      • Fabian Pineda

        You know nothing, Jon Snow.

        • Android Developer

          It's just a guess, just like the rumors are.
          It's also what I hope will happen.

    • miri

      I take it you haven't read the article or anything related to Android Silver other than "No more Nexus devices"?

      • Fabian Pineda

        I take it you read minds and know what people read?

        • miri

          The assumptions made in your post are at odds with what we know of the rumor from this and other articles on the subject but given only the headline, your assumptions become somewhat reasonable.

          Conclusion: you haven't read this or any other article on the subject or you weren't very thorough in doing so.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Uh... no. How bout we don't make use of fallacies? You obviously disagree with me, that's fine. But concluding that I haven't read any articles about this *just because* of this disagreement goes against the nature of logic and common sense.

          • miri

            It's not a matter of whether I disagree with you as what you're worried about and claiming 'doesn't make sense' isn't even rumored to be happening, which you would know...

            -wait for it-

            ...if you read the article.

          • Fabian Pineda

            Yeah, man. Sorry I'll read about this and come back. Your superior arguments and logic have overwhelmed me, even though they have been nonexistent.

  • Michael Fontenot

    This guy is actually really rarely right. He was right early on and now I think he just says stuff cause he knows we'll believe it. I'll believe he when I see it.

  • HotInEER

    People are complaining about nothing IMHO. Google started the Nexus line for developers and along the way they realized people like stock Android. They invested time, money, and resources into them over the past 5 devices and finally got the other OEMs to see the potential especially after the Google Play Editions.

    I believe the Silver Line will replace the Nexus and GPE phones, and just be called Silver. So, now all OEMs can release their models as Silver devices, so we can get what we want on our phones.

    I still think the future would be great if each OEM gave you the choice to chose if you wanted their custom skin, or stock android without root. You buy your phone, activate it, take it home, register your device and choose your software, you phone downloads it, reboots and you have your version, you can back it up, and go back and forth. This could even be done at the carrier stores also.

    • SSDROiD

      YES please!

    • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

      Every major phone and tablet needs to have a GPE version. But it's not happening, so where's the chance it will be like that with Silver? (hm, Google Silver? That doesn't sound good :/)

  • Jack Thant

    No Nexus 6 but Nexus 5 (2014). Right?!?!

    • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

      And Nexus 10 2014

    • Dakota

      I'm confused.. Theres already a Nexus 5. I'm using it

  • http://farukahmet.blogspot.com/ Faruk Ahmet

    I get the disappointment over losing an affordable and top-specs phone category in Nexus (if we really did lose the "affordable" part), but this could be a very good thing for Android in a much more broader sense. Google had the devices but lacked the audience, and the manufacturers had the audience but lacked the devices. If Android Silver will have the design and relative purity of Nexus phones *with* the marketing zeal and infrastructure of the manufacturers and carriers, it could carve out for itself a much bigger and more prestigious space in general consumers' minds, imprinted with the line "powered by Android"—instead of being only "not iPhone" or "droid" (or even worse, "Galaxy").

    • hp420

      I think you're missing the big picture, though. "Relative purity" is not what Nexus users want. We are looking for total purity. We want unlockable bootloaders, we want a phone or tablet that is guaranteed to keep a community of developers updating our device far after Google stops pushing updates. There is no guarantee that any of silver device will sell well enough to get any decent development community behind it, and if this is as close as we can get to a Nexus in the future, that means there's a percentage of Nexus users who will be stuck with a device that's no better off than a device running an OEM android fork. As a loyal Nexus user, I'm upset about this since it not only means I could be one of them, it also means those developers who have been loyal to the Nexus community may also be among them, and I know for a fact that there are many of them who only buy one Nexus device at a time, and that is their sole device. So that means we may be screwing over the people who can provide us with more great development by potentially sticking them with a device that they are one of the only people developing for, and then all the burden falls on them, so they just stop sharing their work.

      I know it seems like it could be a stretch, but it's really not that impossible. If the silver devices aren't intended to be development devices, similar to how the GPE devices are now, we're seeing a literal death to the open embrace we've all grown to expect from android development.

      Also, there's an issue with the pricing....who sets it? The GPE devices are currently under the manufacturers' control. If the silver line mimicks this, we'll see an end to the google subsidized development devices, and that's also going to take an enormous toll on the amount of potential developers for any one device.

      If they kill the Nexus line we're all losing our "sure thing" device. We all know what to expect before we even read anything about a Nexus device's specs....constant direct updates from Google, bearing pure aosp android with google's branded apps, an unlockable bootloader, and an unlocked sim with high-end specs for a cheap price. Now what are we getting?? Exactly what a GPE device is, probably similarly priced, but now available in retail stores.

      This is nothing but a big FUCK YOU to all the people who have bought a Nexus.

  • NinoBr0wn

    Lame on so many levels.

  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/metallinatus Metallinatus

    If my next phone don't be a Nexus, it will probably be Ubuntu Touch. (I used it, and liked a LOT)

  • Simon Belmont

    Sad to see the Nexus line go. I guess there's a chance at a Nexus 5 (2014), but if they're launching that in, say, early November, then it'd only be three short months later that Silver launches in February, and that would be a little weird (but not totally out of the question). To me, it would make more sense to just "rip off the band-aid" by putting their resources into launching Silver in place of the next Nexus phone in November. But that's just an opinion of mine.

    On that note, If Silver is the real deal, I REALLY hope this means we'll still see affordable, but well spec'd, devices with fast updates (like the current Nexus program). If not, I'm going to just hang onto my Nexus 5 that much longer and see what other manufacturers offer down the road. Winds of change are upon us.

    • miri

      GPE ranges from $179 - $599 with rapid updates. No reason why Silver would have to be any different.

  • Nathan

    maybe I should replace my nexus7 to nexus8 / nexus7 2013, it will be my last android device

  • Nathan

    What about Android Gold?

  • Mario E Hdez

    Am I missing something with the naming convention? Android silver sounds like a second tier phone. Maybe android gold is flagship nexus? Shrugs.

    • Dakota

      You can imagine the headlines now as Android falls short of the gold and settles for silver. Fire your marketing department if thats not an internal only code

      • Mario E Hdez

        Exactly! Thinking to myself, " There's no way their marketing department is calling it Android Silver when Gold or Platinum is definitely a step above second place or third place."

  • Cuvis

    Can't say I'm thrilled with this idea. The last couple of iterations of Nexus have been fantastic as flagship level phones that are still affordable off-contract. I doubt the Silver program will provide the same thing.

    • Dakota

      Yep a 600-800 phone won't get me excited and by then there will be larger iPhones

  • hp420

    I hope Google reads these comments and realizes how big of a mistake it would be to kill the Nexus program.

  • mikewatson021

    House windows Mobile phone or i phone is usually waitin' for ya! I could pick up The apple company your company to your account inside the distance!
    http://goo.gl/znuA7A

  • John Lee

    Android had to grow to give google a big pile of data = nexus. Maybe now it's big enough and they decrease their whole team in this division.
    Some core apps also got excluded from the open source project. Maybe even android itself will get more maintenance and less development. Who knows. I still prefer android over all but I hate the update process of the system, even though I am a nexus user.

  • Jack Dunn

    I think this is a good idea, its more easily marketable to everyday consumers. Google already have the geeks by having good software, it's about letting normal phone users have an easier way of understanding how one Android may be different to another. I work in a tech shop and so many people get confused by this..

    • Dakota

      Google has never really advertised Nexus phones. A $350 no contract phone that can be combined with inexpensive prepaid would be attractive to many if they only knew about it if I hadn't started checking blogs, I'd have no idea. No one I speak to has ever even heard of this phone or the price. It's 150 or so more than a contract phone and I'm paying $45 for 3gb of LTE monthly. Thats alot of savings & I doubt I would've stated with Android. Ive never understood why they haven't promoted it or partnered with prepaid brands. Everyone I know is paying over 💯 100

  • NF

    From what I read, it won't be completely different from the Nexus program, just branded differently. It's multiple phones at once instead of one.

  • Sk

    So is android silver going to be like the GPE phones?

  • Arthur Dent

    Frickin Sprint? I hope it's usable across AT&T, TMO, and Sprint like the N5

  • blairh

    If I sign a contract with my carrier, AT&T, they will increase my monthly bill $15 a month for 2 years. If that incentive wasn't enough, I've never been okay with paying $600 or more for a fucking phone.

    Honestly if the Nexus line is gone and Android Silver means the same old expensive off-contract phones, there is going to be such a stronger market for used smartphones.

  • Dakota

    If the Nexus phone pricing is no more, I will finally switch to an iPhone to go with my Mac & match what 95% of people I know use

  • Nathan J

    I don't think they need to end the Nexus program, just make something similar for Americans. We can't get Nexus phones here unless we live in a major metropolitan area, making it a luxury device, thus no different from an iPhone for the most part. To get coverage in the boonies, you need a national plan, and the carriers that offer rural access don't do SIM cards, except for LTE data.

    I've always said Android phones should have some kind of universal architecture that would allow Google to update them regardless of what the carrier says. Like Apple does. Except allow OEMs to build on it, just not in a way that limits Google's ability to update it. Let Samsung put the TouchWiz framework on Google Play and see how many people add it on top of the OS update from Google. I'm sure many would. But let those of us who don't want it, choose AOSP instead. Regardless of where we live. That just makes sense. And it's fair to all. Maybe TouchWiz offers some free apps and games that only work with it, so there's incentive to use it. But let people choose is all I'm saying.

  • Giorgis

    Aaa but the Google nexus phones will now be called Android gold phones, and the ornaments at the Google lawn will now sport armed guards

  • Upper Luper

    Time to return to iPhone ( if it's 4.7 or bigger) :-(

  • tintin.92

    Has there been indication that this isn't anything more than a rebranding?

  • Stanley C.

    I think Nexus will die, damn... This is a step back Google... Dont do this... Nexus devices is the best thing that u guys did:-*

  • sosi

    So nexus was generally a world wide thing.
    Why does google think a European would care for some weird program they have come up with american carriers?

    • Roh_Mish

      Here in my country you buy phone unlocked.
      No x-year contract and costly plans. And as the high end phones were costly and full of crap, nexus was the right option for many. Nexus 5 is very popular here

  • topgun966

    This.... is not gonna be good. If they do it as being more Google Play devices, screw that. 300-400 price point was perfect.

  • dimnex

    Well then maybe it's time to consider WP. Microsoft would only have to do 1 thing to make me jump ship. Support the world. One thing that Google sucks majorly. What do I mean?
    I mean:
    - I can't buy a Nexus device directly from google, cause there's no devices store here. Will there ever be? A year ago, freakin Italy didn't had a devices store. So I doubt it.
    - I have to wait for a third party to import said Nexus, who will raise the price, and in the end
    the device isn't cheap, more towards premium.
    - I can't buy a GPE device, they're not available (will the Silver ones even be?). And tell
    me how the hell does it make sense to offer unlocked devices in the US first where the mentality is contract+pay later, than other parts of the world where this mentality doesn't exist. Not only that but I were to lock myself in a high priced contract, it would only knock off like 200$ off the price of the device. No 199$ flagships with contract over here. And then I hear people saying "well the Nexus/GPE don't really sell". Well DUH cause they're offering them in the wrong market.
    - There's still no playstore gift cards.
    - There's still voice recognition for my lang. Google keeps introducing new stuff, most of them only work for US and they're too slow to catch up the rest of the world, if ever.
    Search businesses on maps? No luck. How about me adding a business to google maps?
    NOPE. Can't even do that.

    If Microsoft commits to bring their offerings to everyone, meaning I could use Cortana in my lang (just buy Nuance If you can't bother, you're microsoft) then who cares about Google now? If I could have Microsoft maps with data from foursquare (they did invest/bought/license something from them afaik) then who cares about google maps? People in the US find it funny that people still use foursquare. Yeah, we don't "check in", it's just that it has nearly every point of interest in there. Our Yelp is some way I guess.
    These 2 things alone would make my smartphone that much smarter and worth jumping ship. hey, plus better cameras. (still hate the UI though).

    • Cheeseball

      - There's still no playstore gift cards.

      This is still the most annoying thing Google hasn't fixed yet, along with "being unable to gift apps to others".

    • didibus

      But which Windows Phone is equivalent to a Nexus? I guess maybe you can start to consider Nokia phones as Nexus phones, since they are made by Mircosoft.

  • James Day

    I had kinda assumed project Ara was meant to eventually replace the nexus line. That is, if it doesn't fail miserably...

    • TheLastAngel

      Of course it will fail. Average people can't be bothered with shopping for processor and camera modules. That's why laptops rule and desktops are a dying breed.

      Look at the PC gaming market, most consumer brands won't get near it. At least those are sold for 1000+ dollars, so small specialized shops can make decent coin. But who is going to make a 20$ camera module for a tiny number of ARA users?

  • jonathan

    I don't get it.. Who said it wont be priced like the Nexus?

    • Cuvis

      The rumors have made this program sound more like GPU than Nexus. And even then, they talk about selling through carriers, and Nexus devices haven't been priced well when sold through carriers.

  • Raghav Kapur

    I WANT A NEW FRIGGIN 10 INCH TAB. ENOUGH OF SAMMY'S LAGGY CRAP

  • evertjr

    If this is true then Android is over to me. There's no other android phone with this level of design e consistency, the market is full of ugly phones with bad software and half-assed features. I already switched from Nexus 4 to iPhone and while I'm love with Apple ecosystem I was thinking in come back to Nexus 6. I'll look forward to see what this Android Silver will be but I wouldn't hold my breath, google is doing a bad move after another with Android.

  • Roh_Mish

    Nexus phones (The nexus 5) was selling well here in India as mid range options along with the moto G. It had been just a few months and the moto g is everywhere. I have even seen many nexus 5.
    Personally I got to nexus for the timely updates and more openness as unlike others where only kernel is released, you have more here. And when I got to nexus kernel code release was not a thing for other phones if I am right.
    I live my nexus 4 and was thinking of buying the nexus 6 when it comes out. Google had made me sad.

  • Stoner

    If there is no Nexus 6 it would be sad. Wanted to wait for the Nexus 6 but if this true it will be a Nexus 5.

  • modstorm

    Is it possible that Google plan on bringing in Project Ara as their 'flagship', having both Project Ara and Android Silver devices just like they currently have the Nexus and GPE devices?

  • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

    >> and is "expected on Sprint in the US."

    ARE YOU kidding me? Not only is it CDMA, it's also on the smaller (WAY Smaller) CDMA network. Is Google out of its mind?

  • WhyWai

    GOnna miss Nexus phone. Hope SIlver line gonna do NExus level of goodness...

  • Unfortunate

    This is stupid. Google already tried this. Do they not learn?

    Nexus was a brand for them, and they're just going to cave to manufacturers?
    If we've learned anything, these manufacturers can't make a decent phone without Google's hand in.

    RIP Nexus — I guess.
    And Android Silver, too. because I don't see this taking off.

    First of all you replace a Marketable name of Nexus, with "Android Silver."
    You can't market software as hardware, everyone knows that!

    • modstorm

      Android Silver is probably just a codename and odds are that it will be renamed by the time of it's release.

  • shadlom

    Lame, no N6 I'll be getting a note 4 then.

    • TheLastAngel

      I'll get another Nexus 5 when it is down to 200$, just for shits and giggles. I really love it and the 2014 phones so far do nothing for me.

  • navanshu

    i have come to know that android silver is going to be a 64 bit os

  • ashley

    I'm having problems with my phone as well the new software update screws up everything on my phone i cant send any messages it takes an hour and a half to send a message it freezes up its really slow and I have to factory reset it just to get it to work I want this to stop its really annoying and I can fix it

    • http://www.fullmoonblog.com/ Flatlinebb

      What makes you think this is an appropriate place to as for this kind of help? Take the phone to the store where you bought it, they should be able to help you.

  • Andrés

    I really was expecting the N6, hopping Google had a special Blade Runner Easter egg or something...

  • TheLastAngel

    Stop calling it the Nexus 6! 99% chance is that the display would not have been anywhere near 6" and it would have been called the Nexus 5 (2014).

    The Nexus 7 set the precedent, remember?

  • Stephan Hall

    The Nexus 5 was my first Nexus. It has by far been tbe best experience. I am a die-hard Nexus fan now. .... Just fo have the rug pulled out beneath me. ..... I hope that Google doesn't abandon its enthusiasts.

  • Steven

    I had a truckload of disrespect for Apple who would offer any device for the same amount of Euro as they would charge Dollars. Now Google does the same. WTF? Have either company checked exchange rates? Why would I pay 138% for some product? More to the point; I had a N1, loads of shitty SE devices in between, and now a N5. I'm sad to see Google stop investing in devices, and although I will never use Apple stuff my next phone may not be a Android due to Google bailing out. Ubuntu phone maybe.

  • Ricky Bhui

    Nexus series is popular all over the world in the smartphone industry and Nexus 6 might be the last smartphone of nexus series and after that Google might launch another smartphone series after that.

  • Alber

    Google is insane to kill nexus. They always kill their best products. I hate the name silver. Nexus was like iphone. For pure android or ios. The day this silver insanity starts with multiple confusing manufacturers like now with samsung , lg etc. i will stop using android and go to iphone. Wtf google are you insane and Sundar are you mad. I loved the nexus. Even the name is classy An answer to iphone.
    Google has become insane and overconfident. Look what they did to maps and latitude. Here is another one.

  • Robb Nunya

    Get me an Ara, and I can live with it.

  • didibus

    I think this is awesome. People seem to think they'll miss the Nexus, but don't forget, Google never manufactured the Nexus, it only commissioned it. Now, you'll have a whole bunch of manufacturers coming out with Phones to meet Google standards, in exchange, Google will promote them and make the software for them. They guarantee you software updates from Google. Software updates from Google is what made Nexus phones so good. Now you'll have this guarantee with a much wider audience.

    I'm sure some of the Silver phones will be sold off contract. Now, the question is, at what cost? It's possible the cheap phone standard that Nexus had put out will be gone from now on. But at least you've now got One+ to fill the gap on that front. And subsidized phones from Silver program will be gorgeous experiences, tailored by Google and updated by Google.

  • allen

    Sounds good but price matters nexus well price plus some new higj end phones from Chinese makers have good specs and pricing the market is changing 600$ to 700$ not workable anymore allen

  • raudskeggr

    If they aren't releasing non-carrier editions of these phones, I'm going to be sorely disappointed. I only buy unlocked hardware.

  • http://nexus6google.com/ Manish Balyan

    There will be Google Nexus 6 officially announced by Google and rumors says device will come in the last quarter of 2014.