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Facebook just can't keep its hands on its money these days. First the company tossed $1 billion at the folks behind Instagram in order to acquire the service. Then the company agreed to exchange nineteen times that amount for WhatsApp. After that, it dropped another two billion for the Oculus Rift virtual reality headset. Now it has gone after ProtoGeo, the makers of the Moves activity-tracking app.

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ProtoGeo announced the acquisition today in a blog post that's pretty sparse on the details. Neither company has disclosed the final price they agreed on. Thus far, Facebook hasn't integrated any of its acquisitions with its core offerings, and it looks like, at least for now, it intends to handle Moves the same way.

Facebook's website and apps already offered the ability to upload photos, exchange messages, and mark your location, but the latest three software acquisitions provide the company with apps that arguably do all of these things better. Facebook's apps can know your location when you share a message, whereas Moves goes much further by functioning as a pedometer that's capable enough to track time spent walking, running, or cycling, and trace your journey on a map.

There's no telling what company Facebook will scoop up next, but after Oculus VR, nothing's all that surprising anymore.

Source: Moves Blog

Bertel King, Jr.
Born and raised in the rural South, Bertel knows what it's like to live without 4G LTE - or 3G, for that matter. The only things he likes sweeter than his tea are his gadgets, and while few objects burn more than a metal phone on a summer day, he prefers them that way anyway.

  • Edward Padilla

    It was a great app, but sadly, because of facebook, I must find something else. Anyone know of anything semi decent?

    • Tomasz Kuczynski

      If that's the only reason to stop using an app - it's silly. Unfortunately Corporations will take over the world in the next 5 to 10 years and then all the options will include Facebook, Google, Samsung and Apple.

    • someone755

      1st: retarded move. If you don't like the fact corporations will one day own everything, imagine that a handful of people control every single one of these organizations.
      2nd: I've been looking but nothing that works in the same manner and gives the same data. There are step counters and there are some walking fitness apps but nothing like this. Take or leave it, I guess.
      Also GNow tracks how many miles you've walked in a month and reports it to you at the beginning of each month, comparing it to the previous one.

      • Matt

        I don't know if it's that "retarded." If you feel okay with a certain corporation utilizing your data but disagree with the policies of another company, then I don't really see why a change in ownership isn't a reasonable incentive to switch services. Facebook's (or even Google's) utilization of your data for targeted advertising purposes doesn't sit right with a lot of people, especially when it's something as personal as your every movement. I don't really see why personally choosing to stop using the service is a bad move if you don't like the likely motive.

        • Tomasz Kuczynski

          Yeah, but if you think about it Google, Apple, Samsung, Facebook all track you as much as possible (Siri, Google Now, Samsung equivalent all do a good job of predicting your next move). You would have to give up smart phones and live in a forest not to be tracked.

        • someone755

          As somebody already suggested, if you don't like being tracked and the data sold for advertising, you should just go live in a cave. No kidding and no insult meant, it's how it is. Wherever you are and whatever you are doing, if you're around technology you're being tracked. With the data most likely being sold.
          And don't believe them when they say they won't use the data. It is always used. (And I mean always.)

          I'm not trying to be one of those "ITS A CONSPIRACY" guys, and I'm not. It's how things are. Even if all the smart people stopped using technology (somehow), the count of the ones using it would still be over 100x bigger.

          • Matt

            Right, but I'm saying there's a difference between voluntarily giving
            your data to one corporation, which you trust to an extent, and
            voluntarily giving it to another, which you don't. Deciding to cancel
            that contract if you disagree with the policies or usage of the data is
            certainly well within your prerogative.

            Might there be some other way they still track your movements? Certainly...but there's still some agency involved in movement tracking apps today (you can choose to share some of that data or not). Facebook still likely has some idea of where you are, as does Google with Google Now. That doesn't mean you don't have the option to say "no" to as much tracking as you want. There's nothing wrong with choosing to control as much of your personal information as you want.

            Personally, I use Google Location tracking/sharing and have used Moves in the past, though I stopped for battery reasons. Still, if I came to dislike Google's particular usage of my location tracking, I would be well within my rights to try to stop that as much as possible (disable location reporting, sharing, etc.). Google would still know some things about me (location in Google+ posts or photos or whatever), but that would still be less data than before.

            Apps like Moves require a fair amount of trust (as mentioned above, knowing *everywhere* somebody goes is pretty personal...even most friends/family don't have that information), so the standard may be higher than for Facebook in general or Google+. In addition, they often also have quite a few downsides (battery life being the most obvious).

            I just don't see what's particularly wrong with saying "look, Moves wastes my battery so that I can have access to my location data, but now it's been bought by Facebook and I don't like how they use my data [though that's not in the cards right now], so I won't be giving it over voluntarily anymore. I'm going to limit this as much as possible, despite knowing that Facebook will still have some data on me.

          • someone755

            You seem to believe them that you have a choice.
            Quite the contrary, dear; you'll be tracked either way. Whichever app you're using, if it has any connection to Facebook, the data goes to Facebook.
            And "opting out" is a lie. Again, as long as you're near tech, like it or not, you're being tracked.

            (Before you think I'm crazy, I do have an Android phone and tablet and I have both Facebook and Google's location reporting enabled.)

          • Matt

            I absolutely believe you have some choices you can make. Disabling Google location reporting stops them from knowing exactly where you are at what times.

            Does the service still know where you live? Sure. Do they know whether you go to Starbucks 3 times a week or 4? Not if you stop using Moves or Google Location Reporting. Moves is *really*, *really* detailed. You're basically making the argument that since using Google and Facebook gives them some of your life data already (age, sex, home town, undergrad education, relationship status, friends), that you might as well give them everything (whether you went to Ikea after seeing that Ikea ad in the Facebook app, whether you skipped McDonald's the day you walked 3000 steps instead of 5000, etc.).

            I think that's a completely false dichotomy. It's a question of degree of privacy; it's not an all or none scenario. That's the distinction. You have some control over your own privacy, despite the fact that you can no longer control everything.

          • someone755

            You don't really give them all the data. Your location, interests, age and connection to friends gives them just enough info to sell.
            You can never completely disable location services (even if you "disable" them in settings, an approximate location can be determined), and your interests can be gathered from searches, app installs, website visits etc. If using a social network, they can see what both you and your friends like and do, when you hang out etc.

            There's no all or none scenario, I agree. There's either all or almost all of your data being collected. :P

            If you believe it and like it or not, this is how things are. There is no more privacy near technology. And living without it is kinda hard if not impossible.

    • tdurden64111

      Are you also a firm believer that "the man" is trying to keep you down?

      • Edward Padilla

        No, but what's wrong with trying to keep a little bit of privacy? I understand that I'm already being tracked as much as possible by everyone on the web. I don't need Facebook to know exactly where I am, every second of the day.

        • Tomasz Kuczynski

          Google Now tells me how far away from home I am. How long it would take to get there. In the morning it tells me how far away from work I am. If I do a google maps search, it asks me if I want to add that location to my "locations". It scans my emails and asks me if I want to track packages that I received tracking numbers for. It also sees my pictures, texts and calls as well as my browsing history. In fact, the other day I got a Google Now notification about the Walking Dead just because I googled it.

          Privacy he says...

          • Edward Padilla

            So because you allow one multinational corporation to track you, you should allow them all? That's nonsense.

          • Tomasz Kuczynski

            No. I am all for privacy. I used to go through all the troubles of setting up a proxy, having dynamic IP addresses, etc, but now a days it is impossible to protect yourself from being tracked. I changed my views to "if you have nothing to hide, don't worry too much" outlook to actually partake in all those features and services. I know where you are coming from though - I do not have a facebook account for past few years.

      • someone755

        "The Man" lol. Look it up on the urban dictionary, you'll get a good laugh.

    • Dutchy

      runtastic?

  • Jose Arce

    Uninstalling.

  • Rahul Nebhnani

    Had installed it just yesterday!!
    Thought it was great
    But *unistalled*

  • tdurden64111

    I've been all for FB buying up everything they can, but at this point I'm starting to think WTF?

    • Tomasz Kuczynski

      The bought Instagram and I was like "OK, makes sense! Fudge competition". Then Google bought WhatsApp and I thought "Not too bad, better messaging". When I read they bought Oculus Rift I stopped and thought "3D facebook? Well, whatever". Now I'm just worried that Facebook is trying to become like Google, Apple or Amazon.

  • Bazar6

    Good for them. It's every small dev's dream to get paid handsomely for their hard work, whether by a company who sees huge potential, or to reap the long term benefits of an app becoming a huge success on its own. I'll continue to use the app until I see what Fbook is doing with the data.

    • John Smith

      I agree ! Hopefully the dev team did actually get something out of it instead of the executive team taking all of the rewards on the backs of the dev's.

      It would be good to hear from one of their dev's to find out what happened so that other dev's can learn "how to avoid getting screwed in a startup as a dev" or "what to do to ensure financial success at a startup as a dev"... heh, maybe there's even a forum / blog for that.

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  • polesmoker99

    NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • polesmoker99

    In all seriousness, I was hoping they'd be bought by Google instead. Sigh. Now it'll require Facebook integration.

  • Dutchy

    hmm by that logo id think it belongs to Motorola lol

  • James Rooney

    I don't mind using Facebook and I love the moves app, but I'm unhappy at the thought of Facebook knowing my location that well!

  • Steven Lewis

    And their Selling your Data to the world and You GET NOTHING. Sounds FAIR Right?
    You really should pay attention to us. We have an App too and it pays you for your Data. http://chatnationwide.blogspot.com/

  • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

    Been meaning to reinstall this for a while now, in hopes that the battery-draining issues that plagued my Nexus 5 might be resolved.

    Now I won't bother. I don't trust the way Facebook will use this data.

  • Cesar

    On a related note, the Facebook app's new UI is definitely prettier than the old one, but when I was switched to it, I noticed it removes the "most recent" sorting option for the news feed.

    Well, time to switch to Klyph!

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