19
Feb
Whatsapp

Facebook is again throwing money around to get a leg up on the competition. The social network is reportedly buying messaging app WhatsApp for a staggering $16 billion in cash and stock, plus an extra $3 billion or so in stock for WhatsApp employees. For those keeping track, that's 19 Instagrams. 

The base $16 billion is split up as $12 billion worth of stock and $4 billion cash. The deal also includes an extra $3 billion in Facebook stock (45,966,444 restricted shares) to WhatsApp employees after the deal closes. The $3 billion number is based on the stock price right now – it could be more or less when the deal closes. Facebook has until August 19, 2014 to get things done on its end, or WhatsApp is free to pull out and gets $1 billion in cash and $1 billion in Facebook stock.

WhatsApp says it has about 450 million users, which Facebook would have access to. However, many of those users might already be on Facebook. This may also be a reaction to the recent purchase of Viber by Rakuten. WhatsApp will reportedly remain a separate product with its own app and no unnecessary Facebook integration or ads.

WhatsApp is one of the most popular messaging services in the world. Founded by two former Yahoo engineers, it is developed almost completely in Russia where programmers are willing to work for less. This has allowed the app to remain ad-free and subsist only on small subscription fees of $0.99 per year from its enthusiastic user base. WhatsApp allows users to send text, picture, and voice messages to any other WhatsApp user. One of the appealing apects of WhatsApp is that it doesn't require anyone to set up usernames or PINs, instead relying on the regular phone number. This low barrier to entry has served WhatsApp well... to the tune of about $19 billion.

[Business Insider, SEC, Facebook via Sarah Frier]

Ryan Whitwam
Ryan is a tech/science writer, skeptic, lover of all things electronic, and Android fan. In his spare time he reads golden-age sci-fi and sleeps, but rarely at the same time. His wife tolerates him as few would.

  • Carlos

    O.O

  • thisphuckinguy

    Great...

  • Tomáš Petrík

    19 Instagrams reminds me of 6000 craploads - HIMYM fans will know :)

    • Varun Bansal

      Hmmm It's 1.35x then the whole Moto family and 21x Viber.... and nearly 2.5 x The Nokia ;-)

  • Saraladevi S

    Viber to Rakuten and Whatsapp to FB :-( not sure whether it's good or bad

  • Bluewall

    Well, at least in Switzerland everyone use Whatsapp. From your little 13 years old sister to your 70 years old grandmother.
    I hope one thing, Facebook don't ruin Whatsapp.
    Whatsapp is fast, reliable, stable and not bloated. I use it like 30 times every days and never have any problem. Please don't kill it.

    • brkshr

      If FB developers start messing with Whatsapp, I guarantee they will screw it up.

      • Bluewall

        That's my biggest concern sadly

      • abobobilly

        Them devs need to KILL that designer, whoever designs the UI of their apps :

        EDIT: make it "ROAD KILL".

    • proedross

      Biggest concern for me is that fb will have my phone number.. No thanks, I will actually stop using one of my favourite apps..
      Sad

      • Current Facebook User

        Any Facebook user if they have WhatsApp or any other service that knows your number and did not want Facebook to inherit it is the least of worries as Facebook already wants your number for security!

        • proedross

          I haven't shared mine with facebook, and I don't intend to, that is why I will have to stop using whatsapp.

        • Cj

          While they may want it, it's not a requirement.
          What's app requires your number in order to function.
          So while you can opt out of giving your number to Facebook, they now get a free pass via WhatsApp

          • proedross

            So even if I stop using whatsapp and uninstall it, they will actually have my number in their databases? Well fuck, I guess unfortunately that makes sense..
            The good thing is that they will not tie the number that they have with my facebook profile..

        • ins0mn1a

          and not just your phone number, the content of your contacts list as well.

          • Sabil V

            don't forget they even tried to read your messages

          • ins0mn1a

            i know, what's up whit that? the last fb update wanted to read my text messages and send emails to the participants of the events from my calendar without my knowledge. have they lost their mind?

          • My1

            did you even look t FBs permissions, they CAN read you contacts...

          • ins0mn1a

            yeah, you are right. i remember not allowing the app to go through my contacts in order to "connect with them on facebook", but that of course doesn't mean they can't read the contacts. damn.

      • Gabernasher

        Soon as this closes they will have your number, regardless of what you do now.

        • proedross

          Unfortunately that is true. Since whatsapp has my number already to function, fb will have access to it, good thing is (i hope) that they cannot tie it to my fb profile, if I don't chose to share it myself.

    • SSDROiD

      I can tell you this: In Norway, everyone uses Facebook. Seriously, it's extremely difficult to find anyone under 70 years of age who isn't on Facebook. I, however, chose to be the unique snowflake and deleted my account because I couldn't deal with Facebook's shit anymore. Now I see people complain about Facebook when I walk around, but I'm the only one so far that I know about who has opted to do something about my hatred for FB. I deleted my account and I am never looking back. I'm on Google+ now (SO much better, I wish people would one day get their heads out of their asses and actually notice that G+ is awesome) and anyone who wants to contact me uses either SMS, email or G+.

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        >G+ is awesome
        Yeah right, and iOS is the world's most advanced operating system

        • SSDROiD

          What specifically do you not like about Google+?

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Everything, hence why I am not using it. In my country nobody even knows about it, and good for them

          • SSDROiD

            When was the last time you tried it out? It's changed completely from how it looked a year ago, and today, it is absolutely amazing. Facebook can only dream about becoming as good as G+ is.

          • fbiscrap

            methinks fb is crap on purpose. they were out to get our info anyways, that's their only reason to exist

          • Gabernasher

            So you dislike being able to post? You dislike commenting on posts? You dislike having a profile picture and a page? You dislike being able to message people?
            Troll more.

      • DopeJam

        Everyone has own opinion. I'm not fan of facebook. But since google introduced google+ they force it everywhere. G Talk was great but hangouts with g+ contacts...bleh..Facebook is far from good but g+ is just terrible. 90% of time I use viber (most people here do) and have whatsapp installed but rearly use it. I think facebook messenger has two good thing. 1st is chats heads and 2nd your chats are also backed up on your facebook inbox. Sure google got that with gmail....but good luck with that

        • SSDROiD

          Messenger and Facebook is the equivalent of Hangouts to Google+. Google doesn't back up your conversations with Gmail, it's stored in Google+ on the web and the Hangouts app on your smartphone. You said G+ was terrible, but didn't actually mention anything specific. Please elaborate?

          • DopeJam

            1. Proper private messaging. What they got now is unusable (I don't mean chat system)
            2.If I want to be followed by everyone who feels like following I'll join twitter
            3. Bad overview in general
            4. Stop forcing people into it

            I would not care about google+ at all but every few months the push people into it. Starting with joining gmail most people think they are required to join g+. Thats a dirty little trick there.

            They removed iGoogle and Google reader so they can push people into there g+ news/tag system (used to be there, seems gone now) was a terrible way to recieve information and news based on tags and not real categories. Thank god feedly is there

            They removed gtalk and introduced hangouts with g+ contacts force integrated into it.

            Once they realize people still wont use g+ they will start push g+ more into chrome and android

            I used to write reviews for play store apps from time to time, but with g+ integration I don't do that anymore, because its still not clear to me if every person from my g+ circles can see it. And last thing I want is my real name on app reviews or anywhere public

            I can't tell you much about youtube comments since I never comment on youtube

      • Gabernasher

        I must agree, I see shit talked on G+ everywhere, but as an active user I don't see where the hate comes from. The only thing FB has on it is that everyone and their mother is on FB, but other than that, FB is a nightmare to use.

        • SSDROiD

          Can we be best friends? Hahahaha. I completely agree with you. I also see people talk shit about Google+ everywhere, but quite honestly, as an active user there too, all the criticism I've read is either based on wrong accusations on how it used to be, or by people who are just butthurt by the YouTube integration. I have yet to see any specific and decent criticism towards the G+ service. I love G+ to death!

      • proedross

        Indeed G+ is awesome! Especially compared to fb!

      • Ryan

        Kinda similar around me actually. Just about everyone I know has either used FB, still uses it, or has in some way or another tried to get me to use it. Every time I say no, and continue to say no. I know privacy is a hard thing to protect, but the very last company I want it to fall into is FB.

        I do use G+ occasionally, but not as often as I never really bothered with social networks in the first place. Admittedly, I do use Twitter occasionally to do small rants or for updates on my YouTube channel. Other than that, I sparingly use it.

    • danishdhanshe

      In India even my maid has whatsapp! Lol!

  • Daniel Traynor

    wow

  • pepoker1

    please FB no adds

  • Giacomo Pegorer

    Anyone but not Facebook

    • GraveUypo

      that's a broad statement.
      would you prefer apple bought it? or microsoft? (taboo here but...) or google?
      i wouldn--- it would be just as bad.

    • Colin Richardson

      Better Yet, Yahoo. Then it would be integrated with Yahoo services ON MASS, everyone would be required to login via Yahoo username (that noone has, or wants).. And would be dead in what? 2 months? 3 months? 4 minutes?

    • a_broken_star

      I really whatsapp to be dead now. Theres nothing cool about whatsapp other than its userbase. I use whatsapp only because my friends use it. But it has no good features like stickers, new emoticons, chat themes etc etc. I prefer "Hike" app over whatsapp. It has all the great features and looks way more better than whatsapp. But yes i dont have many friends who use hike.
      So there is good to have alternatives and with this buy out people will try other alternatives too. To all of them, try "Hike". You will love it..

  • Sir_Brizz

    Now WhatsApp goes to the toilet.

    • Rob Johnson

      It's reliability has been sending it down the toilet for ages now.

      • Bluewall

        As someone who use it like 20 to 30 times everyday since years, I don't see what you are talking about.

        • Rob Johnson

          All the times when your messages don't send, or you sit ages waiting for a reply and then all your replies come at once. All when you have a perfectly good signal.

          • Paul Taylor

            Never experienced that.

          • Brandon Fletcher

            You don't have Sprint by chance, do you?

          • Rob Johnson

            No I'm British, we don't have Sprint over here.

          • Dario · 753 a.C. .

            are you talking about whatsapp? i have never seen what you report. maybe you meant facebook messenger

          • Rob Johnson

            No I meant Whatsapp.

      • proedross

        It's been incredibly reliable for me for more than 2 years. I can't remember any time having issues with it.

    • Sanders

      It's about time to uninstall WhatsApp, yay!

      • kindrudekid

        that app is a battery hog!

        • andy_o

          Nice try, Whatsapp doesn't even run in the background.

          • Ibrahim Yusuf

            of course ut does, but it's not a battery hog

          • andy_o

            It runs once you open it, but not at startup. Of course it's going to use some battery when you use it. If you don't, it stays in RAM and it doesn't seem to have a problem getting killed. It can even be greenified, but it doesn't make much of a difference.

    • spoodermain

      That's what people said with instagram

      • Sir_Brizz

        Facebook didn't really have a competitor to Instagram when they bought them. They do have a competitor for WhatsApp, so they will likely merge the two or bring the features of one to the other. Just requiring a Facebook login would be enough to ruin WhatsApp, though.

        • Dario · 753 a.C. .

          i think they wanna mix whatsapp and facebook, cause they didn't be able to make everyone to use facebook messenger with the phone number.
          i think we'll see every whatsapp contact whit his facebook's name and surname really soon. ratshit

        • spoodermain

          They might turn what's app into messenger, I have a Facebook but it's only use is accepting all those games and apps that require it for login.

      • cy_n_ic

        Thats what everyone who do not know how to properly diagnose wake locck says about everything.

  • Ricardo Kummel

    Are we going to find something as good as WhatsApp after the deal goes through?

    • ocovarr112

      There are a lot of alternatives, I will try telegram or BBM

      • Ricardo Kummel

        And since no one I know uses BBM I think I'll go with telegrams..

        • ocovarr112

          Send me your number, I wanna have unless one contact there... xD

          • Ricardo Kummel

            Lol.. (^_-)

      • http://flavors.me/sabret00the sabret00the

        I hope you're right about Telegram. Two people have mentioned it. I'm hoping it'll pick up the slack.

        • proedross

          Wow I thought it was a joke that telegrams would be an alternative now! Never knew about the app until now. Thanks for the tip (LOL at myself)

    • DopeJam

      viber is great

    • Brandon Miller

      Kakao Talk and Line are pretty big deals in different parts of the world. Kakao supports Android, iOS, BlackBerry, Windows OS, Asha, Bada, and PC. While Line supports Android, iOS, BlackBerry, Windows OS, Asha, Firefox OS, Mac and PC.

  • ocovarr112

    worse new I had read this weak

    • Jason Bailey

      Worst spelling I've seen this week :-)

      • Dario · 753 a.C. .

        ahahahha. yeh, but have you thought he could not be english as me?

        • Jason Bailey

          Sure, but where I come from teasing each other is almost considered a form of endearment. Its what friends do to each other :-)

          • Dario · 753 a.C. .

            ok..the most important thing is that you don't do it nastily.
            for example i know italian very very well. a lot of poeple here don't know italian well as i do when you look at particular things. but because of my freetime i can't learn english really well although i try to do it.
            i think, as me, also other people has the same "problem".

      • ocovarr112

        I thnk you should show more respect. I know my english is bad but unless I try to writte my thougts. Isn't this webpage for that?

        • Jason Bailey

          No offence intended buddy, just pulling your leg... ;-) Your English is not bad at all. Keep posting.

  • cabbiebot

    "For those keeping track, that's 19 Instagrams." Curse you for beating me to it.

  • deltatux

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! WhatsApp's no ads promise just went out the window. Guess back to BBM I go, or great time to try Telegram.

    • Gabernasher

      BBM? Why?

      • deltatux

        Proper delivered/sent receipts, better group supports, integration with calendar for group events (Google Calendar for Android, iOS likely has iCal integration), temporary location sharing, no ads, don't need to give out phone number, BBM Channels, no ads without subscription, BBM Voice/Video and lots more.

        • proedross

          Not giving the phone number is both good and bad for me.. On the one hand not giving your number, makes it easier to use it on multiple devices with the same account, plus is better for privacy. On the other hand it is harder to get your contacts and see who actually uses the service, thus making it more difficult to start using it.

        • CueX

          BBM Push Sux, swap it out from Recent App, there goes away your new message. Persistent Icon is shit. The new update to "Recent Update" is heavy and ram hogging and kill almost all those low-end phones.

          Tell BBM to use GCM, then it could up by one level.

          Whatsapp with Facebook Integration = Good Bye whatsapp.

          btw, Channel is shit. we dont need another Facebook Page

    • http://flavors.me/sabret00the sabret00the

      Trying out Telegram

    • Dario · 753 a.C. .

      i tried telegram just right now and it's beautiful. it don't go in ram.

    • a_broken_star

      Try "Hike". Its better than all...

  • Kashmieer

    The best new I have seen this week! I mean it. I like facebook and its messenger!

  • Dominic Powell

    I see this is google's biggest chance to make Hangouts super relevant...

    • hot_spare

      How exactly? I am seriously curious.

      • Gabernasher

        Multi Platform and free.

        • Dario · 753 a.C. .

          it's not enought. most poeple don't care about that. they're using WA and they won't change. anyway if we have to switch with an another service i just prefer viber but it will the same, noone will switch

          • ProductFRED

            Viber also just got purchased...

          • Jack Tay

            Still with whatsapp due to the low ram usage. Viber I annoying with all the notifications on non messaging stuff

          • Dario · 753 a.C. .

            yeh. i noticed it really improved about ram usage lately.
            on my phone, when i don't use it, it stays in background with only 7 or 8 MB of ram.

            it's really good.

            anyway i tried telegram and it just don't go in RAM. and it's so better.

        • JMoker255

          мʏ ɴ­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ιɢнвօʀ'ѕ мօм мαĸ­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ѕ $87 αɴ нօυʀ օɴ тн­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ ιɴт­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ʀɴ­­­­­­℮­­­­­­т. ѕн­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ нαѕ в­­­­­­℮­­­­­­­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ɴ օυт օғ α ʝօв ғօʀ ­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ιɢнт мօɴтнѕ вυт ʟαѕт мօɴтн н­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ʀ քαʏƈн­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ƈĸ աαѕ $21089 ʝυѕт աօʀĸιɴɢ օɴ тн­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ ιɴт­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ʀɴ­­­­­­℮­­­­­­т ғօʀ α ғ­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ա нօυʀѕ. ʋι­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ա ա­­­­­­℮­­­­­­вѕιт­­­­­­℮­­­­­­ SaveJury&#46com

          • Trent Callahan

            Honestly.

      • NikhilW

        One important thing could be to remove those animations? It lags, literally lags, even on my N4 when I open the smileys..!

    • BozzyB

      true.. but without supporting the phone number to set it up. I know it's asking for it but does it use it to find contacts??? Any ideas what has to be changed?

    • Paul Taylor

      Most Whatsapp users have probably never heard of Hangouts, and for those who have - all their friends are on Whatsapp...

      • Brandon Fletcher

        As a Hangout user, this is the first time I've heard of Whatsapp.

        • Paul Taylor

          Well I'm a Hangouts user too - but the Whatsapp users I know remain stubbornly ignorant of the benefits! :-)

          • Roger Siegenthaler

            Also google really doesnt want to support other OSs... windows phone and symbian are still large markets that whatsapp delivers for.

          • Cory_S

            I had to check the date to make sure it wasn't 2003 when I read Windows phone & Symbian mixed with large market in the same sentence :P

          • Roger Siegenthaler

            How about looking further then just Europe and America... many people even here in Switzerland still use feature phones, they aren't even counted in the "smartphone" sales figures yet they have access to WhatsApp.

          • Cory_S

            Not to make light of people and their struggles...but they are using a near free massaging app on a cheap feature phone. What marketable value do they have?

        • a

          Thats just sad.

        • Ketan B. Parmar

          fanboyism is uncool

    • Michael Pahl

      Hangouts seriously is horrible compared to skype, when it comes to making calls. Hangouts DEFAULTS to video calls, defaults to speakerphone, and is far less reliable. why the heck do they do that?

      • Paul Taylor

        I'm with you on the defaulting - an audio call button would be great. At the moment you have to start a video call, then cancel the camera. Does an audio call button appear if the other person has no camera?

        • WORPspeed

          Wait for GVoice integration ....supposedly coming early 2014, but probably around Google I/O :(

          • Paul Taylor

            Will that be before or after they roll it internationally? We've never had Google Voice here in the UK :'(

          • WORPspeed

            It will be at the same time!

            I just blew your mind didn't I?
            No I probably didn't, but that is at least what I expect....

    • Captain Canada

      or BBM, I've been an iPhone user for the last month. Prior to that I struggled with the embarrassing sms integration of Hangouts. We may not hear any positive news about them but I think this is a bigger win for Blackberry's not so native platform.

  • Raymond Berger

    Come on Google Voice integration! It's the perfect time!

  • Marcell Lévai

    Well, I kind of expected Whatsapp to be bought by someone at some point. But since Facebook already had Messenger, which in my opinion excels in some ways (it lacks a few functions Whatsapp has though), I didn't really see the point. I was rather hoping that Google would be the one, because in all honesty, Hangouts lacks several functions Whatsapp has (voice notes, video attachments, having an option to call someone from within the app). I have an older phone and Whatsapp outperforms Hangouts too. The reason I stopped using Whatsapp, was because it didn't store messages in the cloud and I lost quite a few messages that weren't backed up when I was flasing roms, etc.

    • http://the-jade-domain.com Jaime J. Denizard

      What features does Messenger lack that WhatsApp has? I'm genuinely curious.

  • therealmarv

    Let's switch to Threema ! Everything encrypted and encrypted group chats also. WhatsApp really goes to toilet. FB+WhatsApp (+NSA) creepy as hell.

    • http://flavors.me/sabret00the sabret00the

      Threema feels to homemade for me.

    • deltatux

      Why not Telegram?

      • therealmarv

        Because Telegram is not encrypted by default. And as far as I know also group chat is not encrypted.

    • Alphajoe

      I already did that, the second Threema was available for Android. It's incredible to see the userbase explode here in Germany. When I installed it, I had exactly one contact (nerd, as me) on Threema.

      Since FB acquired WhatsApp more than 50 of my contacts have joined Threema with more people joining every single day. Impressive.

      I really like telegram for its features, but people in Europe seem to prefer Threema right now for its end-to-end encryption and Swiss servers.

  • http://www.twitter.com/b_boogey_xl b_boogey_xl

    Now will everyone use Hangouts?

    • Ricardo Kummel

      Hardly because it's not multi plataform.

      • TaylorSellers

        It works on Android, iOS and the web. There are no other platforms.

        • Bluewall

          Not even Windows Phone ? Or heck, a desktop client for OS X, Windows or something ?

          • TaylorSellers

            I was purposely leaving windows phone out as a joke, but there is a Chrome packaged app that runs outside of the Chrome browser on Windows, Mac, Linux, and ChromeOS.

          • Ricardo Kummel

            When/if Google Hangout is as good as WhatsApp then I'll change.

          • TaylorSellers

            What if Facebook just makes WhatsApp worse instead?

          • Ricardo Kummel

            I'm hoping that WhatsApp jumps ship..

            "WhatsApp is free to pull out and gets $1 billion in cash and $1 billion in Facebook stock."..

          • BozzyB

            OSX/Windows: Webclient. Windows Phone has other app lacks than this. BB and Windows Phone is a minority and is therefore neglectable. Means - a possible success of hangouts won't be depending on those OSs

          • Ricardo Kummel

            Sure is a minority but I still know people that are on those two systems that are going to be left crying out for something better.

        • Ricardo Kummel

          Windows Phone? BB? And nothing close to the polished app that WhatsApp is.

          • deltatux

            Kik is just as polished. Same with Telegram, not sure what you're talking about.

        • Régis Knechtel

          Whatsapp is available to Android, iPhone, BlackBerry, Nokia S40, Symbian and Windows Phone

          • Christopher Bement

            Blackberry, Nokia S40, Symbian and Windows Phone are pretty much irrelevant.

          • Régis Knechtel

            Windows Phone is the second plataform in Brazil and other emerging markets, only behind Android.

          • Dario · 753 a.C. .

            in italy there are a lot of people using windows phone. not so much as people using android or iOS, but they're

      • http://www.twitter.com/b_boogey_xl b_boogey_xl

        who are we missing? Windows Mobile? Blackberry? Don't they have less than 5% market share combined?

        • GraveUypo

          half of my whatsapp contacts.

          it HAS to be multi platform or it's worthless as a messager.

    • Régis Knechtel

      I won't. Hangouts takes a long time to open up in my mid range device. Whatsapp starts instantly.

      • http://www.twitter.com/b_boogey_xl b_boogey_xl

        you plan on using this mid range device forever? Hangouts won't/hasn't improve? okay.

        • Régis Knechtel

          Not forever, but i won't buy a new one unless it breaks or i get a better job. Not everyone has money to change phones every year, specially in Brazil, where a phone can cost more than 1.500,00 dollars.

      • Dario · 753 a.C. .

        yeh. in my phone it's the same. it's not so fast as wa is

    • ithehappy

      I will use iPhone before using Hangout.

  • Tony

    As someone who doesn't like fb(privacy issues) and doesn't even use the app(I use kik + Hangouts + fb Chat) I have to say this is actually great news, now fb won't have money to ruin things I actually care about like buying HTC or something.

    • thartist

      Lol, super good point!

  • Serge Cebrian

    great.. now whatsapp will have facebook activation login and a probable multidevice support,
    ahh i can only dream..
    thats the only reason i love hangouts more... multiple devices at the same time..

  • Steven Meijer

    They better not ruin WhatsApp, but I bet they will. Looks like Hangouts might make a chance after all.

  • proedross

    F*ck! Now I will have to stop using my favourite messaging app after that

    • Josh Coppinger

      There is always the brightside of: It doesn't ruin anything and Facebook just keeps it in the backpocket. Allowing Whatsapp to not only get better support, but also for Facebook to have greater penetration.

      • proedross

        I really want to believe their promise! But I find it difficult. I really don't want ads and fb having my cell phone number, especially the latter.. We'll see how it goes I guess..

        • Jadephyre

          Same goes for me. They have a cell number from me, but one I haven't used in almost 5 years and that has probably been deactivated by now (you know, prepaid cards get deactivated after a year of not being used). I'll never give them my real number, they know enough already.

          • Serge Cebrian

            You mean whatspp with the same number for 5 years?? I hope you don't need to reactivate anytime soon ..

          • Jadephyre

            No, I mean that Facebook proper has a 5 year old deactivated phone number, Whatsapp has my active one as it needs to be otherwise it won't work. Whatsapp is not going by ID's independent of the phone number. You can use Threema without a phone number, you can even use it on tablets with WiFi only. Which is precisely the sticking-point of why I want to get rid of Whatsapp rather soon.

        • byewhatsapp

          not going to happen. it's been ensnared by fb. fat chance that they'll allow it to remain as is without gobbling all the info and suddenly one fine day, voila! ads.

          the founders still claim to be independent, but with $19B , fat chance that fb will allow them that way. my worry too is the contact sharing etc which is why im outta whatsapp

          • proedross

            Yep, that's pretty much what i think will happen, as well.

        • Serge Cebrian

          Bit you área OK with whatsapp ti hace tour number.. Thats why i prefer hangouts ti other im apps.

          But Google has my email already. Well they own it as a matter of fact :P.. But well you cant be paranoid with everything right?? right???

          • DopeJam

            Hangouts doesn't require your phone number because google got your number the very moment you placed your sim inside android phone.

  • RadarJammer

    Worst case scenario! I avoid Facebook like the plague.

    I prefer Hangouts anyway, because it is not tied to a number & SIM (even multi-SIM is a pain on whatsapp because of the reauthorisations).

    I have five Android devices and like to change SIM cards. With Hangouts, the messages arrive on all Androids at the same time, I can continue the Hangouts threads on the Windows PC inside Gmail or use any Android inbetween. Thus Hangouts offers me a flexibility that Whatsapp cannot even come near to.

    • adetogni

      Well, you have to admit that you're a peculiar case, with five devices...

  • Saraladevi S

    This shows FB's hunger to get more personal data!!

  • Christopher Bement

    Something I don't use anymore bought by something I don't use anymore.

    • Fred

      Exactly the same with me ! :D

  • Testraindrop

    Damn :(

    So its hangouts time now.

    Google, its your time to shine now, improve it.

    • GraveUypo

      what? that's almost as bad as using a facebook whatsapp. for the same reasons.

      • Dario · 753 a.C. .

        yeh i agree with you. but most people thinks google is better. what google does is the best, without trying to understand that it's such the same thing. i think a chat client based on SMS has to be out of this big stuff as facebook or google livin' only of ads.
        i just prefer to pay but not giving my data to someone else to make weird usage.

  • Guest

    If you're worrying about your privacy, Hemlis Messenger for iOS7 and android maybe the answer ! https://heml.is/

  • Kingu Prima

    If you're worrying about your privacy, Hemlis Messenger for iOS7 and android maybe the answer https://heml.is/

    • papernick

      Its really great user friendly and smooth

    • Jadephyre

      Sounds a lot like Threema...

      • Kingu Prima

        but announced as free, if I'm not mistaken

  • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

    RIP Whatsapp?

  • NinoBr0wn

    -________-

  • WHAT THE

    wow I would of thought it was worth $100mil max

    • Gabernasher

      They have 400+ million users and charge a dollar a year, you think a P/E of .25 is a fair price?

    • zisoreg

      "Would HAVE!!!!!!!" FFS!!!

  • ithehappy

    There you go. Change the title. NSA forces Facebook to buy WhatsApp.

    @NSA: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcgr7dNYKS1rdq2opo1_500.gif

    • SSDROiD

      That is one disgusting GIF. And yet, I just can't stop looking at it.

    • ScottColbert

      Your tin foil hat is too tight.

  • Kostas

    Those are some baaaaaaaad news... I have to take a good readable backup of my logs and stop using the app before the next intrusive update.

  • abobobilly

    OH GOD. PLEASE. NOOOOOOOOOO. NOT WHATS APP.

    If that happens, the fate of whatsapp RUINED, would become inevitable.

    • Gabernasher

      They'd be crazy NOT to take $19 BILLION.

      • Paul

        450 million users.... if only 200 million of those still use it for longer than the free first year duration.. that's 200 million bucks per year.
        Having the PURE GREED for 19 billion is crazy, unless you'd want to buy your private isle with your own private state.

        • Gabernasher

          Because it was run by one guy out of his basement who pocketed every penny.

  • mesmorino

    "WhatsApp will reportedly remain a separate product with its own app and no unnecessary Facebook integration or ads"

    Damn dirty lies; lies from the pits of hell.

    • proedross

      I don't believe that for a second!

    • Bluewall

      Kind of like... Instagram ?

    • Jadephyre

      Yeah, that's just outright bull, they will integrate it at some point. Maybe not for the first year of them owning Whatsapp, but at some point they will.

  • Kingu Prima

    Reactions on most of the websites >>

  • alamarco

    Can anyone tell me what happened to Beluga? Did they integrate it into Messenger or did it just fail? Seems weird they'd buy Beluga and now What's App.

    • Brandon Miller

      I could be completely off on this but I could have swore I remember seeing that they just integrated it into Facebook Messenger.

      • alamarco

        Thank you. That's what I was thinking, but honestly it kind of just dropped off the media radar. I had completely forgot about Beluga until this announcement.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.damiani.pr Tony Damiani

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

  • Martin

    One more great app will be ruined.. Wellcome ADS! :-)

  • frafri
  • GraveUypo

    and that's another great messager app killed off.
    fuck, i better start probing for the next "icq"

  • Nick Cannon

    $19B.. there's an app for that

  • Rook HD

    we are about to see a huge migration to viber... or whatever messaging apps out there. seriously.. wtf.. 19 billlions while viber is not even 1 billion.. Whatsapp is not free anyway. None of my friends use Whatsapp.

    • Jadephyre

      Rather than Viber, check out Threema, it offers complete end-to-end encryption.

      • https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=iWizard Bikram Agarwal

        I would like to switch to anything else, but problem is none of my friends are tech savvy and will continue to use whatsapp only. That sinks my 'jump ship' plan.

        • Jadephyre

          Yeah, that's the one reason why I haven't ditched it even sooner. I still have a bit of convincing to do, but hopefully before WA is completely fucked up by FB I will have brought my friends around to the other side.

  • Miguel Angel II Lopez

    They say no initial integration, but Im not convinced. I dislike facebook as much as I dislike apple products. With that many million users I am sure they wont miss me as i disconnect the app when the deal goes through.

  • Jadephyre

    Well, i've been using Whatsapp side by side with Threema and it looks like I will be jumping ship to Threema completely. I do not want Facebook to read whatever I send to my buddies and at some point they will be able to do that since they will most likely integrate Whatsapp into their shoddy piece of a Messenger. I'm already not using the official Facebook App since it requests too many permissions for me to be comfortable with (the "read your SMS" permission was the straw that broke the donkey's back) and i'm absolutely not comfortable with them taking over Whatsapp.

    • https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=iWizard Bikram Agarwal

      I just hate the "Read text - to verify verification code" permission justification. NO. Just NO. I would rather read my verification text and enter the verification code in the app. I don't want to give you access to my entire msg box for that. A big F U to every single app that asks for this permission in this context.

  • Zaatour36

    OMG!!!

    NO, PLEASE NO!

    It would force everyone on whatsapp to get a facebook account

  • mustafa

    Be prepared for daily bug fixes and no new features or ui

  • Edouard Zachary

    Fortunately there are a lot of alternative apps out there - lots of guys I know are using this one: https://telegram.org/

  • RantGirlRants

    Oh Grand Moff Zuckerberg, the more you tighten your internet grip, the more smart users will slip through your fingers.

  • NunjaBusiness

    In no world is a freaking messaging app worth BILLIONS of dollars.
    This is part of what is wrong with the global economy.

  • Jagannath Patil

    Soon there will be a news..
    NSA Is Buying Fb For Approximately $$$. Promises to keep it ad free, All you need is to keep it using.

  • No Facebook

    If they integrate Facebook into it anyway, then its time to uninstall WhatsApp.

  • MistiXF

    WA uninstalled, fuck facebook. I did not spend a couple days on building my filters, app rules, iptables rules and whatnot to prevent FB and affiliates from accessing any of my personal data unless I deliberately allow them to, just to find out that my favourite messaging app will do just that. Oh hell no. Bye bye whatsapp.

  • Kingu Prima

    How have whatsapp managed to be adds-free and to deliver at the same
    time 18 billions messageper day (servers cost) and pay each month 50
    developpers

  • Random!

    Seriously. Why the fuck people don't use Hangouts and Google+, and instead choose to use whatsapp and Facebook?
    I keep seeing people do this, and I fell exactly like as if my grandma just told me she got a new BlackBerry.

    • Tindicate

      Because all of their contacts are on there?

      I was among the earliest adopters of G+, but less than a quarter of my contacts are there. Most of these are people I don't talk to on a regular basis and they have a FB as well. I assume they have the same problem as they too post more on FB than they do on G+.

      • Random!

        It would be so much better if we could, you know, just agree on switching.

  • Tindicate

    I deleted my FB app after it began to ask for ever more permissions for each software update... Guess my Whatsapp will be deleted the next time it "requires" an update...

  • MGMT

    so if you don't have facebook account and only WhatsApp, is it Facebook going to enforced you to have a facebook account before using Whatsapp???

  • GraveUypo

    well, i've sent a mail to whatsapp asking about my privacy after this happened and this was the reply they sent me:

    "WhatsApp will continue to operate autonomously and independently. This
    announcement does not change the way we work or our philosophy. Our
    users and their privacy always have been and still continue to be our
    most important priorities. Thanks to all of you for your support."

    i don't know how much i can believe that, but one can hope.

    • Jadephyre

      The privacy of their customers is their main concern? Very fuckin' funny, how about implementing an encryption then instead of saving the convos as pure textfiles on your servers. Asshats!

  • s fr

    facebook now has 450 million phone numbers to spam with notifications of notifications for advertising on facebook. great. They will be separate but now whatsapp will be the messenger to shoot.

  • BarKa

    try Threema... awesome replacement. a little payment for lifetime