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We went through quite a dramatic back and forth last year when Falcon Pro ran out of Twitter API tokens in record time, but now another client is biting the dust. Carbon for Android, which just recently got its big 2.0 update, has run through all its tokens.

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According to the developer's Google+ post, Twitter has sent a warning that there are only a few tokens left for new users. Once those are gone, the app is effectively dead. Unlike Falcon Pro, Carbon won't be generating new application keys to get more spots, and there won't be a backdoor to put in your own token. This is the end of the line as far as new users are concerned.

Esmaeili says there will still be updates to Carbon, but it's not as much of a priority as other projects. The Google Play description will be edited to notify users of the situation. Carbon might not technically be dead, but it definitely has one foot in the grave.

[+M.Saleh Esmaeili]

Ryan Whitwam
Ryan is a tech/science writer, skeptic, lover of all things electronic, and Android fan. In his spare time he reads golden-age sci-fi and sleeps, but rarely at the same time. His wife tolerates him as few would.

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  • Luqmaan Mathee

    Oh well Twitter is stupid anyway. This is just their way to get us to use their stupid app.

    • abobobilly

      I really don't get it. Why the hell Twitter (and Facebook) can't release a good looking and working app :S

      These people should definitely learn a thing or two from Google (or Google Plus app, rather).

      The current twitter app is no less than a nightmare, the facebook app is <_< Design wise, i do believe Twitter app to be more horrendous than Facebook one.

      • Cesar

        The problem with the Twitter app is that they're burying the things that people actually use (like notifications and DMs) behind menus and bringing forward stupid crap that almost nobody cares about, like the Activity and Discover tabs.

        • Luqmaan Mathee

          Lol same problem here.

      • Luqmaan Mathee

        Facebook and Twitter consume way too much RAM and battery anyway. They need more efficiency. I prefer alternatives. Klyph for failbook and Carbon for Twitter.

      • Luqmaan Mathee

        I also wish they really followed the Android design guidelines. I'm sick of seeing apps without it.

      • uniquename72

        No one should use the G+ app as an example of something good. Only being able to see 1 post at a time and having to constantly scroll for every damn thing is so irritating that I don't even use it anymore.

        • abobobilly

          You are actually first person i see who is annoyed by such a tiny thing. Personally, i think its only a problem on low-resolution displays. High Res displays can show slightly more information (and 4 cards atleast if in landscape & atleast 2 in portrait), which i don't think isn't as bad as it is on Facebook & Twitter. Plus, the design and the performance of Google Plus app speaks for itself.

          I am curious though. If you feel G+ app is irritating, which app would you present as an example?

  • http://www.Nave360.com Sebastian Gorgon

    He also hoped nobody would report this as news on android sites.

    • David Hart

      And why is that?
      His reason is because it's a repeat topic, fuck yeah it is.
      this isn't going to stop until Twitter stops, and it's BS.

      I stopped using Twitter when they introduced tokens. I never actually went to the website, or used the app. It was just a news feed like widget on my home screens.

      Because I used it like a widget I changed apps a few times, there's been a few that I could simply not get to work because of the token issue.

      In the end Twitter literally pushed me away from using the entire service.

    • abobobilly

      The news is as bad as their official twitter app.

      HAH

  • TwitterUser

    I guess this is bad news for those wanting to try out Carbon in the future but in all honesty, The twitter app isn't all that bad as it used to be when 3rd Party twitter apps were on the rise.

    • Ygor Vaz

      The main problem is not twitter's official app, it's it trying to monopolize mobile twitter access.

      • why tho

        Why are they doing this though? Won't their ads (disguised as tweets) show up properly on third party apps?

        • Hothfox

          I suppose if the devs code it in, sure. As it is, I don't see ad Tweets in Falcon Pro.

        • lfeuln

          No, but if that was actually the main issue they'd simply have incorporated it officially in the api and required it of third party apps. Sucky, but better than losing access due to token limits.

        • ERIFNOMI

          No. If they simply took the time to update the API to push ads, they could remove the token limit and be done with it.

    • uniquename72

      "The twitter app isn't all that bad"

      I'm not interested in apps that aren't "all that bad." I expect apps to be "good" like Carbon.

  • jpfrasier

    I tried it but prefer Falcon Pro. How do I release my token for someone else to use? I have already uninstalled carbon.

    • Samvith V Rao

      Goto your twitter page>gear icon>settings>Apps on left side navigation menu>Click on 'Revoke Access' for apps you want to dissociate.

      • Eric Meadow

        thanks. just released my token as well for others to have.

      • jpfrasier

        Thank you!

  • Simon Belmont

    I use the regular Twitter app and it's gotten much better in recent times. It does what I need it to do.

    But, I think the API token limit sucks. Twitter grew up on the backs of third party developers and then cast them to the wind with this restriction. I do miss the halcyon days of multiple competing Twitter clients. I wish it could go back to that.

    • ERIFNOMI

      The most recent update made it worse. The new UI hides interactions in favor of discover and other bullshit I don't want. It's basically a highlight o tweets you've already seen and tweets from people you don't follow. That and the keyboard lag came back. The only app I've ever ued where the keyboard falls behind. I can smash out an entire tweet before the first 3 words show up. By the time it's finished catching up and it shows me I'm over the character limit, I've already decided to give up on the tweet. For those two reasons, I've gone back to Falcon Pro.

      • Simon Belmont

        Yeah, agreed. I generally ignore those things that they keep trying to bring front and center because they aren't all that compelling to me.

        For me, basic tweeting and reading my timeline, I'm pretty happy with. I just wish they'd highlight lists as a more useful function, because I love using lists (most underrated yet powerful function, IMO).

  • http://www.allankintz.com ack154

    I just released my token for Carbon, so there's at least one more available.

    • OmniWrench

      Thanks for the reminder. I was planning on switching clients anyway, I'll release mine as well.

    • TejasEric

      I did this too as soon as I heard the news.

  • Izzy

    no third-party twitter app can compare with the official client anymore, because none of them can show when your tweets have been favored or retweeted like the official started doing a year or two ago. i've just freed my token so carbon doesn't have to be a victim any longer. you can do this on the official site, settings-> apps->revoke access.

    • Hothfox

      Falcon Pro lets me know when my tweets have been retweeted or favorited. Both via a notification and on the recently included "Stats" page.

      I don't like the official client because it shows me a bunch of junk I don't care about up front (trending crap, discovery, etc.) and it's "buried" notifications in a little button in the action bar.

      • Izzy

        sorry you're right about falcon pro, looks like they just added that feature a week ago. i'm scared to try it tho because the apk is a direct download and the falcon in the icon looks threatening.

        the official client never makes you visit the "discovery" or "activity" tabs. you can just stay in "home" (timeline)
        but i agree that they shouldn't have moved notifications to the little bell button but it's not that bad except you can no longer swipe to it

        • ERIFNOMI

          Falcon is safe to download. Getfalcon.pro is the official download, direct from the developer. He doesn't put it on the play store anymore because of the token issue and the workaround would probably get him into trouble if released through an official channel like the play store. Plus, if you're on a recent version of Android, apps are scanned before being installed.

        • Hothfox

          I just find it annoying Twitter made Discovery and Activity front and center, instead of Notifications and Direct Messages. I don't really give a flying fart what's trending near me, and such. I just want to see my timeline, mentions/interactions, and DMs, so I use Falcon.

          And it is definitely safe. I like the Falcon. He's badass. :D

    • Dairox

      Don't feed the troll. It doesn't even know what it's talking about

    • ERIFNOMI

      Too bad the official app hid all of that in favor of the discover tab...

  • TejasEric

    Twitter needs to reverse this decision. We're slowly going to lose all the good third party apps. When this happens I am probably not going to switch to official.

    • inzandity

      If anything, it's kept me from using Twitter as much.

  • Deeco

    Carbon should've been prepared and learnt from FalconPro!

    • http://www.innews.dk/ Erroneus

      And done what?

      • Deeco

        Your mum

      • rizkisrq

        The Make-And-Use-Your-Own-App-Tokens-Because-FUCK-TWITTER.

  • Marcell Lévai

    Tweedle will run out soon, too :/

    I loved Twitter back when they weren't so aggressive with advertisements, it's user base was much smaller (mainly techy people), and there weren't so many stupid limitations.

    • Cesar

      I just downloaded Tweedle because I can't stand using the official app anymore and, yeah, it warned me that soon enough users would not be able to log in regularly. It's really a shame.

  • Ryan Callihan

    I do not understand why Android Twitter clients are denied extra Twitter tokens. Big names in iOS (like Tweetbot and Twitterific) don't have this problem. It's just not fair to both the developer and the end user.

    • BrianLipp

      Its not Android twitter apps being targeted. Its new Twitter apps on any platform. The iOS apps were around before the API change, so when it happened their token limit was made to be double the amount of tokens they had at the time. Any new app made after the change has a limit of 100k tokens. So if the iOS apps had 1 million users/tokens when the new API came out, their token limit was set to 2 million, so they can take in 1 million new users. As far as i know there just havent been as many new Twitter apps on iOS as there has been on Android.

      • Ryan Callihan

        I know that they've been around forever on iOS but I didn't realize that Twitter doubled their limit. Thanks for that. I thought there was a way to properly request new token from Twitter though. Maybe not?

        • BrianLipp

          Developers can send a request to twitter to get more tokens, but they really only do that if you're using the API in a way that "doesn't replicate the core twitter experience", which really just means using Twitter to log into a different app to get your contacts or sync things. The Falcon Pro guy sent a request in last year and twitter denied him.

        • ERIFNOMI

          You can request more tokens, that's correct. But, it's up to Twitter to give them to you and they always tell devs to fuck off. I don't think they've granted extra tokens even once.

          • Ryan Callihan

            That's what I thought. That's really frustrating.

    • uniquename72

      I don't understand why Twitter doesn't just build a decent client - then we wouldn't need to rely on 3rd party apps for the useful functionality that Twitter refuses to provide.

  • เกรียนเทพ ดี อันลิมิเตด

    What's the point of this limit?

    • Simon Belmont

      To get people to use the stock Twitter app. That way Twitter can monetize with more ads in their app.

      Twitter should just allow their advertising API to work in any third party client and lift the restrictions. Then, everyone wins, technically.

      • michyprima

        not really, I don't want ads filling my timeline.

        • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik

          Of course not, you want to use a service for free forever without ads, as money can appear magically for Twitter to pay the bills...

          • michyprima

            I talked about "filling". an ad every 20-30 tweets is okay, more than that is not. And I'm sure they are gonna abuse that.

        • ERIFNOMI

          Either you see ads so twitter can pay for the bandwidth, or twitter dies. Just if ignore the ads like our do on websites.

          That said, I think I've found the first ad that had ever had something to interest me recently. The Bellroy (?) ads that are popping up everywhere recently show a really nice, slim wallet that I'd love to have.

          • h4rr4r

            Or maybe if enough people prove they don't want ads and they do want this kind of service another way to pay for it will appear.

            I block ads on my computer without any shame. I control the browser, not the website. if you want my money, sell swag, memberships, a donate button, whatever.

  • Sir_Brizz

    Just another notch in my "Never use Twitter" utility belt.

  • Glich

    Blame Leo at twit.tv he pluged it a week or so ago and that's why I swapped to it and a bet a ton of others.

  • Segroukin

    Please don't fuck Tweedle up

    • Ryuuie

      They will. It happens to ALL 3rd party Twitter clients.

  • michyprima

    it was not that hard. Oh well.

    "Twitter cannot be used in an application name" :-P

  • John Smith

    At this point - why use Twitter at all ? It's only ad-monkeys / sales-guys that have enough to say anyway.

    • ERIFNOMI

      You must be using twitter wrong.

  • boeder

    Managed to get a token a few minutes ago after numerous tries. Thanks to however freed a token :)

  • Robert Boluyt

    Hate to break this to Twitter, but if my preferred twitter clients lose access to Twitter because of Twitter's own stupidity, I'll just leave Twitter. Its small source of entertainment for me, nothing more.

  • Sac Bunt Melvin

    I'm officially no longer using Twitter because I like the company or because I want to. I'm using Twitter because I haven't yet found an alternative.