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Email addresses are like phone numbers - who memorizes more than a handful these days? For years, cranking out a new email has begun with typing a few letters and clicking on the relevant contact that pops up (occasionally followed by frantic deleting and carefully selecting the correct contact). Soon Gmail users will have an even broader pool of names to select from, as Google+ connections will start to appear below saved contacts when typing out a recipient.

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Naturally, these connections function somewhat differently than regular email accounts. Your email address will remain private until the moment you send someone an email in this way. Likewise, theirs will remain private until they email you back. Additionally, if someone has you in their circles, but they aren't in yours, their email will automatically get filtered into the "Social" category (assuming you still have this enabled). They won't be able to start another conversation with you unless you respond or add them to a circle.

If this sounds like more of a headache than it's worth, Gmail will have an option to disable the functionality altogether.

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This integration is rolling out over the next couple of days. Expect an email from Google with details and a link to disable it when your turn is up.

Source: Google

Bertel King, Jr.
Born and raised in the rural South, Bertel knows what it's like to live without 4G LTE - or 3G, for that matter. He now lives in the City of Bridges, adjusting to the presence of actual snow. His phone of choice is the HTC One.

  • yodatom10

    i swore I've had this functionally for weeks... maybe because i'I've been party of the gmail field trials

  • mustbepbs

    I hope they don't give us "suggestions" on who to email like they do for Hangouts. They're really pushing my damn buttons with all this G+ integration. I understand if you want to make it easier to connect with people that I already have in my circles, but I really don't give two shits about their "suggestions", as if Ashton Krutcher and Lady Gaga are really available for Hangouts.

    • Justin W

      You have Lady Gaga in your circles? o.O

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        ☯☯☯☯☯☯ ☯☯☯☯ ☯𐎈☯☯☯☯ ☯☯☯They have to figure out a better way to filter out contacts based on context across all their services.

      • mesmorino

        The "beauty" (more like stupidity) of Google plus is that you can add ANYBODY to your circles, and ANYBODY can add you to their circles.

        Google tries to make this less stupid by saying you don't have to add them back, except that friend links and other such connections should ALWAYS be two-way confirmed. I don't want ex-girlfriends and acquaintances I don't talk to putting me in their circles, I don't want anything to do with them at all!

        And with this fail-move by google, now anybody can add you to their circles, AND send you emails.

        • Justin W

          So, block those that you don't want.

          • mesmorino

            That's a solution, but it's not the best solution. It's merely adequate.

            Say for example, you've been forced into making a G+ account because you have a youtube channel. And then some person you don't know adds you. Now YOU have to go block them on this stie that you didn't have anything to do with and didn't WANT anything to do with. That's a backwards way of thinking, it should be up to me to decide whether I want to allow people into my house in the first instance, not have to specifically exclude them after the fact.

          • Justin W

            Alternatively, you don't have to use G+. It's well-designed and I like all my stuff being in one place (where services/ecosystems like this are concerned), but you don't have to use their services.

          • mesmorino

            I disagree about it being well designed, but that's besides the point right now. The point is that again, "don't use it" is not a solution. When something is bad, you FIX it, you don't say "oh just don't use it"

            And you know what, simply not using it might have been an out (albeit an easy out), except with the way Google's forcing G+ into everything, that's not even possible anymore. Why should I have to shut down my Youtube channel because I don't want a G+ account? Why should I stop leaving place reviews or app reviews because I don't want a G+ account?

            Anyway.

          • Justin W

            The well-designed part is opinionated, so I won't discuss that further (different strokes for different folks), but with everything else, G+ is what Google's banking on for the future. Unfortunately (for those that don't like G+), there's no way around that, and they will push for it to be used in every way possible for their current and future services.

  • OmniWrench

    Uh... That "Anyone on Google+ can email me" option shown selected in the screencap isn't the *default*... is it?

    • Tomáš Petrík

      I am afraid so.

    • blahmoomoo

      Mine was set to "Extended Circles" by default.

  • gridlok

    When I was a young child, my mother would leave me in the care of my nana while she studied. Nana had raised many children of her own, often on a very limited income. As such, it was a strict rule that no child leave the table until all food was consumed.

    One of the staples of Nana's meals was mashed potatoes. Nana was not a gifted cook, but I was not a fussy child - I would eat my meals without fuss. These "mashed potatoes" however, were a granulated instant mashed potato mix, known in the UK as "Smash". Just add water.

    She had not the patience to mix smash properly, so this abomination to side dishes would often have clumpy, powdery lumps peppered throughout, making it a challenge to consume.

    When nana's eyes were averted I would go to great lengths to hide the smash - in empty cooking pots, inside shoes, buried in the soil of pot plants - anywhere where I could avoid ingesting it into my body.

    To this day I can not stomach the thought of mashed potatoes. Not even the real, creamy potatoey goodness of thanksgiving quality mash.

    TL,DR: Google+ is Smash.

    • Gabernasher

      I much prefer G+ to Facebook. I use it for close friends / family and random people, Facebook is just a mass of people I might know. I either share to my close circles on G+ or publicly in communities. Much better than the shitty mess Facebook is.

      • john

        Oh, please, you can share to specific lists on Facebook, and people are actually on Facebook.Candy Crush would never catch on without the leaderboards with everyone being on Facebook.

        • Gabernasher

          G+ is built around Circles, the lists on Facebook are not meant to be used.

          • EllaM

            Odd, that. I've been using the Facebook lists for years. I used G+ for a few weeks, saw Circles, said "Huh. That's the same as the lists. Nothing new here." I deleted G+ two weeks after joining, and haven't missed it at all.

          • mesmorino

            Then why are they there? I use them all the time, for old friends from school, old work colleagues, etc

      • mesmorino

        If Facebook is just a "mass of people" you might know, that's your own fault. You have to accept EVERY single friend request, unlike G+ where you can circle anybody and anybody can circle you.

        The only person who has made your Facebook a shitty mess is YOU. Mine is pretty much like your G+: Friends and Family only.

  • ImSteevin

    When are they going to cut to the chase and just have every google service site redirect you to your google+ page. This is brute force adoption.

  • Guest

    Dong Chen! hahaha

  • mesmorino

    Google plus was dumb from the start. It's less dumb now, but man it's insane how stupid this whole endeavour has been. Let's see: Force G+ into Android? Check. Force G+ into Youtube? Check. Force G+ into Gmail? Check!

    • Jamison

      Google charged you nothing to use their products. If you don't like Youtube, Gmail, etc... GTFO the Internet.

      • mesmorino

        How about you take your own advice? If you don't like my comment, shut the fuck up and get the fuck off the internet, dumbass

        • Jamison

          I was here first. Just like I was with your mom.

          • mesmorino

            Oooh, mom jokes? That's all you have? Lmao what are you, twelve? Fuck off tosser, don't start it if you can't finish it.

            Lmao, a mom joke. Really. I feel like it's 1999 all over again!

      • Gabernasher

        I agree, "Don't like Google, don't use the internet" since you know, Google is the internet and all.

    • Ricardo Neves

      G+ is a easier way to sign in to their services. You don't have to use the social aspect of it. I have a G+ account and i rarely ever do anything on it.

      • mesmorino

        I completely agree, and I'm much the same. My main issue is the way they keep forcing it into places where it's not wanted.

        • selonmoi

          And by "forcing it into places where it's not wanted," you mean adding it (usually optionally) into places where it's not wanted by *you*.

          In all of the cases of G+ integration that I can think of, there has been a large number of user opinions supporting the change (along with the large number opposing it, naturally).

          In this case, many people have been calling for private G+ messages since the service launched. And that's essentially what this provides, only without reinventing the wheel.

          As it is optional, it does you no harm.

          • mesmorino

            Except that it is not optional, hence my use of the word "forcing". If they want to implement private G+ messages, that is EXACTLY what they should do. This is not that, this is forcibly merging your G+ contacts into your Gmail contacts.

            And if your Gmail contacts are the same as your Android phone contacts, like many Android and Gmail users, this is the part where you start seeing people like Artem Russakovski and Robert Scoble in your phone.

            As in, strangers who you don't actually know, as opposed to people you actually (want to) talk to.

          • Ricardo Neves

            They link GMail/Google/Android contacts with G+ contacts, but don't actually merge them yet (unless something changed recently). As for the contacts on your phone, it's 2013, smartphones are not only used to call/sms anymore. If you only want those contacts to show up, then filter the list. (But i do agree that having Twitter Accounts and Pages you like on FB/G+ on your contact list is weird)

          • selonmoi

            You are not forced to have G+ profile to use Gmail.
            If you do have a G+ profile, you are not forced to add people to circles.
            If you do have a G+ profile and do circle people, you are not forced to send them messages via Gmail.

            And no matter what you do or do not do with G+, you are not forced to allow others to send you email via your G+ identity.

          • mesmorino

            You are being facetious, because there is no way to use G+ as designed without making a circle and adding people to it. You might as well say

            "You are not forced to buy a car"
            "If you do choose to buy a car, you are not forced to fill it with petrol"
            "If you do choose to buy a car and do fill it with petrol, you are not forced to drive it anywhere"

            And anyway, I was not saying they should create another separate messaging system, I was saying that they should either create one FOR G+, or integrate what they already have. Of all the things they could integrate with G+, they chose G+ over Hangouts. Seriously.

            Hangouts, that was supposed to be the unifying messaging app, that's actually already merged with G+, they chose to ignore that one and weld G+ to Gmail.

            Right.

          • Primalxconvoy

            The change would be fine, except that Google Minus forces you to use a "real" name, which is deeply unpopular. Thus, the services used by others now force users to adopt a system which is wholly different from the first. The new system also aims to combine one account for all online/offline services (and we all know how great that was, eh Facebook?)

            In essence, Google wants to force its users of separate services to join its version of Facebook and people have been burnt too many times by Facebook (and even Google's last attempt at social, Buzz).

    • Primalxconvoy

      I agree. I don't like being herded or forced to adopt some half-baked Google product when the existing system/s were perfectly fine. They're actually helping me to use their stuff LESS everytime they pull that stunt.

      • Ricardo Neves

        Wake up and smell the cofee. Everything is going social, and Google is no exception. But Google doesn't force you to use their social network, you can use it as a sign in service alone (it's what i do, apart from following AP and a few other pages)

        • Primalxconvoy

          They are forcing users who were quite happy to use FB and Google Play reviews to use G-. The ONLY reason they wanted that was to prove false positives about their user numbers.

          As for "only use services" , as I use Google in both my private and business life, I don't want one service for both. Why do you think people chose Linkin over Facebook for business socialising?

          After Google Buzz, these forced features and Facebook's track record, it's not hard to see where Google could be going with Google Minus, so I doubt that "using it for just services" is going to stay that way.

        • GraveUypo

          "everything is going social" is what they want you to think.
          what is really happening is a race for the control of information.
          google saw how much information facebook was controlling and wanted a piece of that. it didn't stick, so now they're brute forcing it.

        • john

          Snapchat, Whatsapp are unsocial. Google+ fail

        • Dario · 753 a.C. .

          so, you can reviews apps without a g+ profile?

        • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

          I stopped reading at "Google doesn't force you to use their social network"
          You may want to visit YouTube or use your android device more often if you say so

    • Dario · 753 a.C. .

      yes, i agree. i dunno
      if you know that if you review on playstore, then you send emails with
      someone, they can view all your reviews as upper reviews when they check
      the apps. the most important problem is that this feature doesn't need
      that you add them in contacts or on g+. you only need to send email to
      someone else, and he'll see all your reviews in playstore as upper
      reviews.

      for example i sent some emails to my teacher, and she did the same. so now we both have as upper review our reviews.
      you got that? i dunno well how to explain it in english. hope you got that.

      • mesmorino

        YES! That's happened to me too!

        • Dario · 753 a.C. .

          i don't like it! but anyone cares about that, so i don't think that it's a big problem for the most part of the users (for me it's).

          anyway i stopped using the same email i use for playstore to send private emails to strangers or teachers or something like those

  • mlj11

    So now businesses on G+ can just circle us, and they'll have automatic access to our valid email addresses to which they can send their advertising emails?

    • mesmorino

      Not quite. They'll get your email address only after YOU email them, but of course, they CAN send you emails because you'll show up in their suggestions.

      • mlj11

        Yup that's what I meant - not so much that they will have our addresses per se, but the ability to successfully deliver emails to our inboxes.

        • Tomáš Petrík

          When it rolls out, I will choose "No one" or just people from my circles (well they have my address anyway).

    • Abhilash Bingi

      They can only send you emails only if you've selected the option 'Anyone on G+ can email me'. If you chose 'only people in my circles' and you haven't circled them, they cannot send you an email.

    • Gabernasher

      They can email you once unless you respond, and if they abuse it I'm sure they can get blocked from the feature.

  • Trent

    This is much bigger than just being able to email anyone on G+ who hasn't chosen to opt out of the feature. This is very clearly (to me, at least) the beginning of Google+ circles (finally!) replacing Google/Gmail contacts totally. It makes perfect sense for Google and I've been looking forward to this greatly, as it's one more sensible thing to do when you have a centralised identity system for Google users.

    • pfmiller

      Except my Gmail contact list is not an identity system for Gmail users. Many of the addresses in my contacts are not and never will be Google+ users, so why would they be in my circles?

      • mesmorino

        Exactly!

  • Itchy_Robot

    I'm all for using circles to better organize my contacts, but the whole suggestions thing drives me nuts. It makes my contact list so cluttered I can hardly find the person I am looking for in Hangouts... now this convoluted system is coming to my email. If they would just let me turn off G+ suggestions, and not populate my list with people that are not in MY circles I could go along with this. When I go to create a Hangout/SMS it has a contact list showing a shit ton of people I have never heard of... now this is going to happen with Gmail too? This is not working for me ... almost to the point I am looking to drop Googs for another service =(

  • http://franklinc.ca/ Franklin

    It is an opt out option. Plus I already get a ton of email from people I don't know. Not a huge deal. If it increases the amount of spam I receive I will turn it off. Fairly simple.

  • br_hermon

    They better closely watch how the implement this and for the same reason I don't combine my G+ contacts with my phone contacts. I don't want to call Gameloft, Google, Nvidia or others. So I don't want to email them either (though it's arguable for support reasons).

    When I look through my contacts on my phone its because I'm going to call or text them. Likewise for emailing someone in Gmail. They have to figure out a better way to filter out contacts based on context across all their services.

  • GraveUypo

    and with this i take another step towards leaving gmail for good.

    • Gabernasher

      Because they make it easier to contact people who's email you don't have or disable the functionality entirely?

  • http://www.LOVEanon.org/ Michael Oghia (Ogie)

    I'm actually happy about this. There has been so many times that I'm looking for an e-mail address of a friend who I have in my circles, but for some reason, I don't have their e-mail. I get so frustrated that Google+ doesn't even display their e-mail to individuals in their circles. That should be a basic feature!

    • mesmorino

      If you want to email someone... Why not simply ask them for their email address?

      • http://www.LOVEanon.org/ Michael Oghia (Ogie)

        Because everyone I ever need to contact are always within a short distance or phone call away

        • mesmorino

          Your answer doesn't make any sense because if they're "always within a short distance or a phone call away"... Why not simply ASK them for their email address?

          You're just showing more reasons why this is unneeded. If you know somebody, and for some reason you don't have ANY means of asking them for their email address, then okay sure, this might be remotely useful.

          Except that if you were in my circles (or even if you weren't, like now) and I wanted to email you something, and I didn't have your email address... I'd say to you by text message, phone call, Google plus message etc, "Michael I need to email you something, what's your email address?" And then you'd give it to me, or not, as the case may be.

          That way YOU get to control who has your email address, and YOU get to choose who you want to receive emails from, unlike this stupid idea by Google.

          • http://www.LOVEanon.org/ Michael Oghia (Ogie)

            Sarcasm.

  • Markoff

    long time ago migrated to Outlook.com and I am happy about this, so just returned to GMail to opt out of this stupid option (they forced me to activate Google+ profile, otherwise they hidden few years of my photos on Picasa, thank you Google! that was last drop to migrate at least new albums to Flickr and it's last reason why I don't deactivate Google account completely)

  • dda

    Fuck Google+

  • Roger

    Google approach to force users to use G+ is just making their products worse.

    This new feature has just made easier for fake profiles or spammers to flood everyone's inbox with useless e-mail!