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If you're noticing some fishy battery behavior today, and it looks like Google Play Services is the culprit, you aren't alone. Throughout the day, users have been reporting extraordinary battery use by the usually innocuous services app, accounting for up to 50% of battery usage. It would seem that, for reasons unknown, Play Services is keeping users' devices awake for incredible lengths of time. Some users report that location is disabled on their devices, ruling that out as a suspect for the increased battery drain. Others simply ask "why?"

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Image: Thomas Gatt, Vidit Parab, Luan Baruti, Maximilian Enck

Some have suggested stopping the app and clearing data, but this is likely only a temporary fix, if that. It's almost certain that the issue is somewhere on Google's side, and we can only hope that it is resolved soon and that our devices' battery stats are returned to normal.

Source: Google+ (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), Twitter

Thanks, Alessandro!

Liam Spradlin
Liam loves Android, design, user experience, and travel. He doesn't love ill-proportioned letter forms, advertisements made entirely of stock photography, and writing biographical snippets.

  • I am a Guest

    Just deactive "Location Services

    • cdawg92

      Doesn't fix the problem because the app still runs in the background and even when you don't use the phone for hours, it causes the phone to wake up (called a wakelock).

    • anywherehome

      probably doesn't help in this case, but generally helps a lot if you want to save even 33% of battery.....Google's power location management is horrible.

  • Alexander Terry

    Those sources.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Those are just *some*. There are countless others. Or are you implying that regular people are not credible enough to be sources?

      • Alexander Terry

        No no, just you cite 6 g+ posts.thats all. Not comlpcomplaining

        • Dissidence

          Google+ conspiracy confirmed?

          /sarcasm

      • markngillespie

        No they aren't, They are mostly cretins that will always complain of battery drain, unaware that that's what mobile phones do. They will make noise about this, in the misguided hope that Google has some magic sauce that they can apply tomorrow, remotely that will magically double their battery life without reducing functionality.

        • Shubham

          Well....Shubham Chaudhary here frome India...I have a Micromax Canvas HD A116 and earlier had Version 4.0.33 installed and battery consumption was just like hell...and then I installed version 4.0.31 and now battery consumption is now optimal ..please try this...you would get optimal results as well....

      • SimonPieman

        No they aren't, They are mostly cretins that will always complain of battery drain, unaware that that's what mobile phones do. They will make noise about this, in the misguided hope that Google has some magic sauce that they can apply tomorrow, remotely that will magically double their battery life without reducing functionality.

        These same cretins are unaware, that as Google move more and more functionality out of Android and into Google Play Services, the result is that it will feature higher in the battery hog list, but will be too dumb to work out that other now redundant (or in the case of newer Android versions, missing) OS services will have diminished their battery usage as a result of Play Services taking over duties.

        • NoonianAtall

          Oh, is that why my phone suddenly started remaining in constant wakelock and warm to the touch today? Because "other now redundant OS services will have diminished their battery usage as a result of Play Services taking over duties"?

          No.

        • wingding

          Gosh, Google Heads are even more worse and docmatic than iFollowers...

          Hey, bugs happen (even in Android) and having a service draining the suddenly much faster than before. It doesn't really matter whether there are "now redundant OS services" or not... If that would be the case would be more like why are they still present in the first place.

      • UniBroW

        I noticed that, using wakelock detector, that Google Now was hanging and keeping my Note 3 awake since the last google search update. Had to disable it. Clearing cache, reinstaling didn't help. Disabling Google now for me fixed it

  • #DD

    YES!!! I thought I was going nuts!

    • JLishere

      Same here. I'm glad it's not just me. I thought something was wrong with my device.

      • Kehnin Dyer

        i think i googled about this 4 times the past couple of days because i thought it had to be happening to more than just me. glad to see it isn't... :/

    • ashclepdia

      Well... You prolly ARE going nuts... But at least it isn't due to THIS :)

    • BB BB

      If you are nuts then I am crazy. S4 is ready for the door with google play services. Standby time is horrible on this phone. Other androids suffer the same fate so samsung isn't alone.

  • http://www.Nave360.com Sebastian Gorgon

    Huh, didn't even notice.

  • Liquidretro

    The cloud! it controls our lives!

    • https://steamcommunity.com/id/m-p-3 m-p{3}

      And kills our batteries!

  • Pranav Tonseker

    Cache Update Service is the wakelock responsible.

  • Dustin Dwayne Wann

    Mine is only at 6%

  • Luxferro

    I noticed it late last night on my Nexus 5. I manually synced all the google services, and rebooted. It's been great all day so far.

  • SSDROiD

    I WAS wondering why my phone was dropping so quickly in percentages today! Damn it!

  • Wylan

    Doesn't even register on the battery menu of my nexus 5 today. Did consume 40% yesterday though.

    • Keith

      This was my case exactly.

    • Simon Belmont

      Same. But it was over 50% for me.

      Crazy stuff. Oh well.

  • Liquidretro

    I have noticed it the last 2 days for sure.

  • Alexei Watson

    Bored mathematicians out there, what is the global wasted electrical power if all/some android devices globally suffer from this? I love trivia.

    • serotheo

      That's a lot of things to consider:
      - # of Users.
      - # Users on latest Play Services.
      - Types of Processors.
      - Android version.
      - Network type,
      - Uptime.

      Probably missed some things ._.

    • mesmorino

      You should be asking electrical engineers.

      • Alexei Watson

        That's actually really funny; because I am an electrical engineer! Just a lazy one that couldn't be assed chasing statistics! More of a passing thought than real ambition to seekthe answer.

        • serotheo

          Quick I'm a Computer Science Major - I'll think of the algorithm and you can do the math!

    • Yannick

      Electrical Engineer here. The difference is very insignificant, since your phone uses as much power in a year as your desktop computer does in a few hours .

  • http://txhoudini.com txhoudini

    I noticed a couple of apps were being updated automatically. I look at it again two hours later and they are still trying to download. Possible lock up on Googles end?

  • Euan Tan

    Happened this morning.. Woke up with 65% on my LG G2 when it was 95% last night. Google Services was responsible for 40% of it... Just rebooted and its now gone.

  • blahmoomoo

    Hmm, it did seem to drain a bit faster than normal now that I think of it (the Snapdragon app told me my battery would run out before my normal recharge time), but I just thought it was because I had a different schedule than usual, putting my phone off the charger for a few hours longer. But yeah, Play Services took up 11% usage, with about an hour on Keep awake. Not nearly as extreme as some people, it seems.

    Hurray for carrying around a portable battery.

  • Ian Monroe

    This is eerily accurate to my day, haha

    I'm kinda glad that it wasn't just me, I was really confused when my battery went from 90% to 30% while I listened to music this morning!

  • AJH

    Deactivating some of the location services seemed to help me. Was 39% of my battery yesterday, was 3% today.

    • Craig Cooper

      This is what helped me also. I know it's not the best solution as it's nice to use all of the features of your phone, but every since I got my Nexus 5 Services/Play Services was using 50%+ of my battery and now is only 2-3%.

      • AJH

        I didn't even turn them all off, just location reporting and location history. GApps can still use my location, so Google Now and such work fine.

        • NoonianAtall

          I had Location Reporting and Location History off while the setting to let Google apps use my location was turned on, and this CacheUpdateService wakelock bug still happened on my S3.

  • Arun Golla

    My mobile is doing normal, the nexus 7 on other hand...

  • jab416171
  • Zaatour36

    someone hacked our Androids through Google??

    or probably a software update coming ?

    • SSDROiD

      I highly doubt that Google is pushing an update through Google Play Services at the very same time to a lot of people. Usually even a small bug-fix release is spread out in staged rollout, whereas this appears to occur at the same time on many different continents, on many different carriers and on many different devices.

  • Fifth313ment

    Holy Crap they are not joking! My T-Mobile Note 3 usually goes for two days easy, even with heavy usage, but now I barely made it a day and a half. My screen on time is currently a little over 5 hours and my phone has been on for 1 day 11 hours before I put it back on the charger. But Google Play services has kept my phone awake for almost 1 day 8 hours! It's even higher in the usage list than my screen, which is always number one, lol! That is crazy! First disabling the Android Phone Manager and now this, WTF Google?!

    5th

    • serotheo

      What are your settings? (I mean the important ones of course).

      I can barely get 4 hours if I'm lucky with my Note 3.

      • Fifth313ment

        Screen auto brightness, everything in settings under connections then connect and share is off (NFC, s beam, etc). All the gimmick move and palm commands, air view, motions, air gesture off! I have everything syncing like normal Google account and Hotmail. weather every 3 hours, Google now running like normal. I disabled a lot of my t-mobile apps and any ones I don't use (crapware that came with the phone like tmobile tv, t-mobile account, chaton, lookout, polaris office, and more etc)WiFi I have set to on all the time but disabled the always on feature in Android 4.3 (WiFi, then menu advanced). I have GPS on 24/7. With T-Mobile I have WiFi calling enabled, bluetooth off unless I am using a headset or file transfer, I leave screen rotation off as it drives me nuts. I have the quick toggles for most stuff I use often like Bluetooth, etc. I get usually 6-8 hours of screen on time and usually my phone makes it two days no problem even with heavy use. But the past day Google Play services has been the number one battery user which is usually reserved for the screen, lol. I'm trying to think of any more but if you have any other questions let me know.

        5th

  • Rodrigo

    Google really needs to improve energy usage in Android.

    • SSDROiD

      I agree. I certainly wouldn't mind Android 4.5/Android 5.0 offering a major benefit in energy usage, especially with the less-than-impressive battery of the Nexus 5!

    • Maher787

      Itsn/t Google problem but Facebook. Problem is with FB messenger. uinstal or reinstal to older version (2.7.2 and old). Tested on Nexus 4

      • Notorious

        I don't use Facebook on my Nexus 5 and the battery drain is there

      • Ivan Zimnukhov

        That iOS7-style FB messenger is the best tthing that happened to my Android phone in a long while. Now I can read long chat logs without them scrolling down automatically at last! I don't care if it uses more battery compared to the old one. It's worth it and it doesn't make phone hardly last the day like the Google Play Services issue that's being discussed here.

      • Paddington

        Notorious is correct. I am having massive drain from Google Play Services (~50% of battery usage), and I do not have Facebook installed (or FB at all for that matter).

        • Maher787

          I do not know what you have installed. This helped a few people I know. I have no problem maybe for older android (2.3.7 and 4.0.4) but I do not have official FB messenger.

      • Just_Some_Nobody

        How is it a FB issue when the images above CLEARLY show Google Play Services?

        • Maher787

          Good question. I not a programmer Android. When I downgraded FB mess app on sister nexus to older, then reduce battery usage. And Google Play Service decreased down to 1%. Working on sister's Nexus 4 and colleague's Nexus 4. I use alternative FB chat client and I have no problems.

      • brkshr

        The Facebook app is just a battery hog. It always has been. You have turn off notifications and automatic updating for it to not eat the battery. Unfortunately, that renders receiving messages useless. Facebook and this Google Play Services problem are two separate issues. The Facebook app has been killing batteries since it came out. Some releases have been better than others as far as battery goes, but it remains that it is poorly coded and a power hog.

        • http://dan.cx/ Daniel Lo Nigro

          Newer versions of the Facebook app aren't as bad, and you can always just use the mobile site rather than the app (it has most of the main features, and some the apps don't).

      • http://remixedcat.blogspot.com RemixedCat

        don't have facebook app here and still does it!

    • sluflyer06

      Whats wrong with it, battery life has been great on my HTC One and now my Nexus 5, idle drain is practically non-existent and well if your gaming or such what do you expect with 2.3ghz quad cores and 5" screens, ain't no magic coding gonna stop a massive 1080p screen and powerful chipset from eating power like a starved child. Last week I went 50 hours off charger with 3.5 hours of screen on and still had 15% when I plugged it in sunday night...is that really bad in your eyes?

      • Rod

        Well, what's this news about then?

        Google Play Services seems to be in beta state still.

      • Simon Belmont

        I've been pleased with the battery life of my Nexus 5 as well. I went two days off charger with 4 hours screen on time and 1% left all on LTE mobile data, and that was the FIRST charge (the battery life should increase as it breaks in).

        I went 2.5 days and 4+ hours of screen on time all on LTE on the third or fourth charge. That was with about 3-4% battery left.

      • Whyzor

        Google hasn't been focusing on battery use, or any low-level device optimizations. N5 still has old Linux 3.4 kernel, when 3.10 has been out for over 6 months. And auto-brightness is too bright on most displays indoors.

        • sluflyer06

          whaaaaat. Kit-Kat & Nexus 5 are very heavy on power efficiency. From the ET capable radio to DSP tunneling, to batch sensor processing, etc.

          • Whyzor

            There's a difference between marketing material/promises and real-world results. Most battery tests done by reviews show the LG G2 having WAY better battery efficiency than the N5, more than the 77% estimated difference between just the capacities of N5 2300 mAh vs G2's 3000 mAh can account for.

          • sluflyer06

            Thats not marketing, that's simply facts, marketing would be claiming it improved it by X %. Are you saying google lied about what radio they put in, or that Qualcomm is lying about what the radio can do? I've yet to see any published claims by Google as to improvements in efficiency, simply the features they've coded into 4.4 to help and the features in the phone itself.

            Also, if you'd spend some time and do research on real world use of the N5 you'd see that the battery life does indeed correlate well with respect to the difference in size of battery. Battery run down tests are not representative of normal use in which the hardware and software were built to operate under. There are multitudes of people getting astounding screen time with the N5. Do I think the efficiency is something amazing, not at all. Do I think Google has spent substantial efforts to that end, yes, that seems pretty obvious, but that doesn't guarantee its going to immediately translate into groundbreaking difference.

          • Whyzor

            Google & Qualcomm may not have lied directly, but it's common corporate practice to describe some new technology in fancy new ways, & over-promising improvements. Until you develop a more consistent and scientific way to measure device battery drain that is repeatable and reproducible like PhoneArena's, then every thing else is anecdotal and could simply be made up. I have owned a N5 for 2 weeks and am returning it so have kept up with most developments in these 2 weeks since release.

          • sluflyer06

            What are you going with instead?

          • Whyzor

            The Moto G looks interesting (or next iteration G2). In the meantime the LG Optimus F3 will be enough. I've come to realize spending close to $400 on a smartphone is still too much for me for how I use it.

          • Jlba

            I have the moto g and I'm really impressed with it. I'm pretty much in love with it. But I'm having the same problem with battery drains. I'm using the 4.4.2 kit-kat on it and it still has the same problem

          • medley

            energy efficiency never get along with advertisement (lol, yeah we all aware about it).

            no wonder N5 battery test is worse than G2, 'cause N5 is basically just an advanced "advertisement machine", lol /jk

          • ejwu

            You might want to read the review done by gsm arena. They test battery life by setting brightness to 50%, and found the result to be aweful. Then they measured the screen brightness at 50% and found nexus 5 to be twice as bright as G2 at 50%.
            The only tech site that calibrates screen brightness before doing battery test is anandtech. They calibrate screen brightness to 200 nits before testing web browsing battery life and guess what, nexus 5 performed wonderfully. It lasted even longer than g2 or even note3 when connected to WiFi.
            Google did some wonderful jobs preserving battery juice in KitKat and nexus 5. The only thing they messed up was the screen brightness.

          • Whyzor

            It's interesting, but after my 2 weeks of usage, with same apps & usage patterns as my old Nexus 4, the Nexus 5 couldn't get more than 3-4 hours of screen-on time. Now that I have a LG Optimus F3 (4" dual-core, 2460 mAh battery), my first charge is getting over 9 hrs of screen on time with same usage patterns. 2nd charge is sipping along and looks to repeat with similar results.

      • Oscar S

        Main reason why I didn't get the nexus 5 is the battery isn't replaceable. I got kitkat running really nice on my note 2 now with my zero lemon battery haw

  • cdawg92

    I've had it with GPS draining my battery. I finally decided to do something about it today and you should too. If you have a rooted phone, use paid Titanium Backup to convert GPS into a user app, and than download the app Greenify to automatically hibernate it when not in use. I read this tip on XDA, so I'm gonna give it a try and see if it stops GPS from draining battery.

    • Rodrigo

      Then, if you forget your phone somewhere, you'll be unable to locate it properly.

      Excellent idea.

      • cdawg92

        I have never lost a phone. Its not worth the battery drain.

        • Rod

          I have, twice.

          Recovered it by using Android Device Manager.

          Also, this has happened with some friends of mine too...

          • NoonianAtall

            If you're not at home, keep your phone either in your pocket or in your hand. Problem solved.

  • squiddy20

    I noticed it last night, but it's not even showing up on my battery stats tonight. A reboot seemed to fix it.

  • StargateNH

    I've also had Google Hangouts Sync and Notification (not SMS, only Hangouts) issues for the last 24-36 hrs. Wonder if this is connected.

    • NoonianAtall

      My phone was warm and draining from the CacheUpdateService before I installed the Hangouts SMS update.

  • Benjamen Meiers

    I restarted my device and then when it came back on Google Play auto updated 10 apps. Maybe an issue with checking for updating apps and failing?

  • acer1096xxx

    Oh thank god. Both my phone and tablet were kept awake all day and I couldn't understand why Google Services was doing this. Glad to see it's not my fault lol.

    • Benjamen Meiers

      Could you restart your device and see if apps autoupdate? and if that fixes your problem.

  • Nikhil Rathi

    For me it was all because of the GEL that I was using..switched to my normal launcher yesterday on my Nexus 4 and no problems after that..

  • dandmcd

    Yeah, this morning when I left to go to class, my phone dropped 10% in a matter of 15 minutes of doing nothing. Google Services was the culprit, and it still stuck keeping my phone awake as of this minute.

  • topgun966

    Look at the GPS usage .... interesting ...

  • scuttlefield

    Hmm...no problems on my N5 or N10. Must be affecting some devices and not others.

  • Quad

    Did google say anything about this?
    Also the Google Play Music keeps popping up in ram manager thing as running on my S4, i never use Google Play Music app, and the music store part is not even available in my country.

    • Sabin Bajracharya

      Force Stop Google play music! Then it can't open automatically untill the next time you open it manually.

      • Quad

        I never open it. And that's what i'm doing , i force stop it but it keeps popping back up on that list.

  • smithyjohn

    How come it's sometimes called Google Services, and other times Google Play Services? It seems to change daily for me, and even your screenshots up there have both names.

    • lisa

      i don't have an answer for you, but i noticed the same thing. on my phone (nexus 5), it was called google play services with the correct google play logo, and then i rebooted the phone, and now it's called google services, with the blue and white face logo. not sure what's up with that.

      • Simon Belmont

        Ha. Mine did the reverse.

        It was the blue and white "Google Services" and then I rebooted it and it became the "Google Play Services" we all know about. Still drained the heck out of my Nexus 5, either way.

  • Alex Vainshtein

    So i am not the only one

  • DJ SPY

    Google really needs to fix its services. Android is extremely inefficient. The iPhone 5s battery is what, 1570 mAh? It gets excellent battery life. Whilst Android devices need monster 3300mAh or bigger to just be good. Even then, Google Services manage to run down those batteries. Maybe it's all that days collecting they do for the NSA. I'm an Android fan and do not like iOS whatsoever but even the most jaded Android fan can agree with me on this.

    • blahmoomoo

      This is why ART is so exciting; I'm sure removing the JIT compiling overhead will improve battery life a lot, once they optimize ART.

      • DJ SPY

        What's ART?

        • blahmoomoo
          • DJ SPY

            Thanks, I'll check them out!

          • blahmoomoo

            Basically, iPhone can automatically be better than Dalvik-based Android simply due to all apps using native code, instead of most Android apps using Dalvik's Java bytecode interpreter (which has improved a LOT over the years, but still can't beat native code). ART has the potential to bring Android much closer to iPhone's native code efficiency.

          • DJ SPY

            Is there a way for Android to drop the dalvik java bitecode and be more like iOS so developers can develop using native Android? That would probably require Android to be rebuilt from the ground up.

          • blahmoomoo

            There is an NDK already that uses C++ for native code, and most games use it. But while SDK (Dalvik) stuff can run on any Android device, NDK code can only run on devices that you explicitly support. And while most devices are ARM-based (and I'm sure most NDK apps target ARM), you still want to support as many devices as possible if you don't need to use the NDK.

            I'm assuming that ART is only targeting ARM devices at the moment, as that is what the majority of devices use. Plus, if they do things right, you won't have to rewrite apps to work under ART, and you can simply exclude ART from devices that aren't supported by it. FAR better than fragmenting Android further by making an ARM-only version.

          • Just_Some_Nobody

            This is also why some games won't run on some phones.
            Native code is typically more efficient. Byte code is typically more portable.

          • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

            That's what ART is doing. I don't know if you read those articles linked above, but ART uses an AOT compiler and compiles all apps with native code. No more Dalvik overhead.

          • Chris Pick

            They are working on ART, and you can always use the NDK to write native code (C++).

          • DJ SPY

            I joked about Google sending data to the NSA but, I just received an email from YouTube suggestion some videos for and right at the top of the list was this... (Kind of creepy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5oliXcOqxg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

      • Just_Some_Nobody

        Because ART will prevent the Google Play Services from sucking down battery on some _random_ day?

        I don't think so.
        This issue isn't because Google Play Services is being JIT'ed.

        This is likely something on Google's servers that are causing the Google Play Services to stay awake.

        • gierso

          sure but at least other apps will run more battery efficiently leaving Google play services more room to drain your battery :P

        • blahmoomoo

          I was never claiming that. I was talking about improvements in general in response to what DJ SPY said. Replies are threaded for a reason.

    • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

      The iPhone 5 and 5S have horrid battery life. And glitches like this one do happen from time to time to all systems. Android's battery efficiency has improved dramatically over the last year.

    • Guest

      iPhone-->small display
      Android-Devices with monster 3300mAh-->big display

      Is it that hard?

    • A Black UI is the best UI

      The funny thing is only standby time on the iphone 5s is good otherwise if you use it to the same extent as an android phone it will drain faster, seriously test it by playing music on both devices for an hour and the drain is faster in the iphone than on android.

      • Rehaan

        iPhone pretty much turns off data when the screen is off. Thats why its always a slow pain to whatsapp iPhone users!

    • SimonPieman

      Google's fault is they provide battery stats. Be more like Apple, hide stuff away, users will never know...

      Too much information in idiots hands is a bad thing.

      • Qliphah

        "Too much information in idiots hands is a bad thing."

        You just summed up pretty much every problem we currently have in the US.

    • Drew M

      I have a work-issued iphone 4s. I've used it alongside my Nexus 4 for the last year and for similar usage--email, calls, messaging, web browsing, music streaming, and videos, the N4 edges it out in battery life by a bit. I think the N4 radios are more efficient than those in the 4s, and the 4.3 and 4.4 (with ART enabled) updates have really further improved battery life and widened that gap. I have no idea about the newer iphones (my coworker had to get himself a battery case for his iphone5, if that's any indication), but I personally think "the grass is always greener" applies here. There's probably some more room for improvement for Android, while iOS has definitely gotten sluggish and more battery draining with each major release...at least since ios5 anyway.

  • Blowntoaster

    hmmm. and I thought I was spending too much time on the Play Store. n then I noticed the Services using battery overnight on my Note 3. Dodgy Google. Please fix it.

  • Paul

    One of the biggest companies that "promotes"/drives fixed, built-in batteries as a standard shouldn't f-up like this.

  • Tony Nguyen

    i had this issue did every thing to try to fix it ( turn off every google service ect) still didn't work. Than i try backing up google service with titanium backup on my nexus 4 google service and transferring it to my nexus 5 and it work! no more google play service crash or high battery drain

  • Melvin

    +1 here, my phone was all hot and after a reboot it slowely cooled down. Had to charge ot on the middle of the day.. (GS4)

  • joe

    I was just about to search for this. My N4 is doing exactly this.

  • Sax

    I was having thid issue for a couple of days. The following worked for me:
    1. Uninstall Play services update and clear data.
    2. It'll prompt you to update the play services.
    3. Update the play services and clear data.

  • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

    Mine died overnight from 60%. Moves caused 42% of the drain with GPS held for 7hrs!! That, when I've set Location to Battery Saving, which means no GPS. A reboot seems to have fixed it.
    Also, I was seeing Google Play Services constantly in my Recent Apps menu y'day, which was rather strange. Not happening any more though. Maybe it was fixed, maybe it was the update to KRT16S on my Nexus 4, I wouldn't know.

  • A Black UI is the best UI

    Exactly why I don't use this app and uninstall it each time it forcefully installs.

    • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

      What ??

      • A Black UI is the best UI

        What do you mean what?

        • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

          Refer to gab's reply above for what I mean What!? smh

          • A Black UI is the best UI

            It means exactly what I said, I don't use it and everything still works fine as well as its a battery saver since it doesn't actually do anything.

            I install apps and stuff from the play store all the time and I never had gmscore installed.

          • bozzykid

            You can't use Hangouts or Google Calendar without Google Play Services. Many other 3rd party apps use it as well.

          • A Black UI is the best UI

            I don't use hangouts at all since it isn't useful to me and I use jorte instead of google calender since it doesn't force you to be online to work properly.

      • shonangreg

        I imagine he's saying that the Google Play Services update from a month or so ago is big and was installed without asking. Quite a few people have been fighting against it since then.

        • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

          Its a background system service update. It won't ask you if you want it or not. Google doesn't ask you if you want something in Android. They update it, if you don't like it, don't use it. I don't know what these people you talk about are fighting anyway!

          • A Black UI is the best UI

            I don't see a problem with me not using it cause from this it is a battery drainer.

    • gab_gagnon

      Google Services isn't just an app! It is the link from your phone to everything Google, from Google Now, to the play store! You kinda need this...

      • A Black UI is the best UI

        It is just an app not something special. You would be surprised that the Play Store has always worked for me without google services so I don't need it.

        • bozzykid

          Huh? Google Play Services is required by a lot of apps (not just Google apps). It is not an app. It is a service.

          • A Black UI is the best UI

            And how many of those work perfectly fine without it.

        • gab_gagnon
          • A Black UI is the best UI

            And this matters because?

            All apps work, have worked and will work fine without it.

          • Matt

            When I was running a 4.3 CyanogenMod release on my S3, I had to disable half a dozen services (probably actually like 3) as they had constant wake locks. Even if my phone was in airplane mode... these useless services would be running.

            My Google apps worked fine, even with a bunch of Google Services disabled. Kind of disappointed that Google can't get this crap right even with a new OS version.

  • http://twitter.com/phonecount StalkyTheFish

    I noticed mine having much lower than normal battery at midday and checked. Sure enough, Play Services was on top of the list at 25% consumption. Also my phone was starting to get warm. I killed a bunch of apps and it stabilized. Must have been some G-app and Play Services in a standoff.

  • Matt Sokolinski

    It doesnt drain the battery....

    I pulled 16hrs of usage,3hrs of screen time, location on Max, patchy reception and even some tethering. No WiFi available nearby. Play services accounted for about 9hrs of total time. How is that a battery drain?? Tuesdays are one of the heaviest usage days in my weekly routine. I leave my house at 6AM and return at 10PM, and still plugged in my phone midnight time. I have not noticed any different behaviour...
    Ohh and this is on nexus 5

  • disqus_5WNzR6XWBG

    I had this issue yesterday. Rebooting my tablet did fix it. No issues since so far.

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  • Christopher Nelson

    its been happening to me for a while, my s4 wouldn't even make 1 day on Standby. It said it was google services. idk man, if it's going to drain the battery of my phone like that.

  • josh c

    Seems it doesn't affect my nexus 5, anyone with the n5 have this issue?

  • Мила

    Had this issue yesterday. Cash cleaning get trouble gone away. (S4 GPE 4.3)

  • Christian Tolentino

    try updating the play store with the new apk 4.4.22. update seems to be for deferring auto-updating of apps. this version of the play store is pre-installed with 4.4 kitkat so this maybe the reason a lot of people with Nexus 5 says they are not experiencing this issue. i'm not sure but it's worth a try. hehe i just updated mine so not yet sure if it helps. here's the link for the apk... http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/01/download-latest-google-play-store-4-4-22/

  • Nigel

    I have 2 android devices, both dropped to less than 50% within 3 hours yesterday with very little use. Usually my phone drops around 2% per hour and my nexus 7 has ample power to last all day even with fairly heavy use. Both devices list Google Play Services as the main culprit, using as much as 80% of the power.

  • Nicklas

    Didn't even notice, but now that i checked, yeah it drains pretty darn well.

  • Thomas Gatt

    That's my Nexus 7 screenshot!! :)

  • Damien Praca

    [RESOLVED] I had the same issue where my battery was drained completely during the night in 10h while the phone was doing nothing.
    -> What you need to do is to desactivate the "Access location" option in the "location" section of the "Google Settings" App (the one with gey icon). It is completely different from the "Access to my location" from the Location access of global Android settings which changes nothing! (From I remember android can access your location even if regular location tracking is off)

    Deactivating it completely solved the prob and removed the Google Services entry from the battery usage.

    • LazersJimmy

      Tried this on my S4 but still have Google Services at 34% (which is what it was at before) this is after rebooting my phone

  • Fiverocker

    Just finish pushing your NSA plugins to all android devices worldwide already!!!
    Google, you´re being evil????

  • Leandro Brandão

    My battery went from 73% to 50% overnight in airplane mode because of this google services.

  • Aaron Stevens

    Had this issue yesterday morning on 4.4 KitKat on my Nexus 4, the wakelock was from Google Play Services' CacheUpdateService or similar. Rebooting has stopped it so far.

  • John Daniel

    I've been noticing Google Services sometimes showing a chunk of wake time and battery use ever since my Nexus 5 arrived. Glad to see it's not my imagination. Battery life overall hasn't been too bad but this was bugging me. Hopefully it's something they can optimise.

  • Mohammed Kamareddine

    I was going crazy then I thought to myself to come here and see if it's widespread or not.. Don't know what I'd do without AP lol

  • xnadax

    Google Play services, "keep awake: 1d 9h 59m 17s".

  • Flavio Cabral Filho

    It's Google Maps, if you choose to "improve accuracy" it will drain your battery like that. I just uninstalled maps and installed again without that option and it's fine now.

  • Neoflite

    Fully charged battery on a LG G2 (very good phone, with the 3000 mAh battery), went to bed and when I woke up: 57% battery remaining! Sumtin`s not right...

  • KK

    Yea, and on the devices with ICS and below, it displays as Android System with none details.

  • Carlos Eduardo Donadio Moreira

    That is not happen to me.

  • http://www.flickr.com/stuffbox DuduMaroja

    A lot of apps uses Google Play services.. so in my opinion its normal for Play services to acumulate batery usage!

    • xnadax

      But not when it keeps your phone awake 100 % of the time, like this time for many users.

    • A Black UI is the best UI

      And how many of those work perfectly fine without it?

  • Keith0606

    Mine got better after a phone restart and has been fine since then.

  • iboalali

    I don't have this problem, and I have everything enabled in settings

  • Cleverson Rosalino da Silva So

    Clear data from app and turn off GPS, solved for me in CM 10.2 @ GS3

  • bL4Ck

    GPServices drained 5% battery this night, keeping my nexus 5 awake, rebooted and now seems to work properly.

  • Maher787

    Problem is with FB messenger. When you reinstal to ollder version 2.7.2 are is OK
    Tested on two diferent Nexus 4

    • bozzykid

      I don't use FB messenger and got huge drain from Google Play services.

  • Leif Sikorski

    The biggest problem of the Google Play Service is that we lost transparency in the battery stats. In early days we saw always the app in the battery stats which caused the trouble, but since most apps use the play services for location it "just" lists the play services and not the app which causes this huge waste of power. We need a new solution to see which apps use the play services the most.

    • brkshr

      This ^, and the fact that KitKat now restarts the battery stats after a reboot, bugs me.

  • popi

    YES! My battery yesterday was really really bad, and when i checked the stats, i found Google Services with about 40% of my battery and i was like "WTF. STUPID 4.4" but now im glad to know that its just not me.

  • G

    While were on the subject to battery drainers anyone noticed Vevo using around 25% of their batteries? On the nexus 4 with kitkit I'm getting that so had to uninstall.

  • PatrickPlante

    Thanks I'm not alone! My battery was at 98% at midnight, I've put it on my desk and went to sleep. This morning at 7:30, only 9% of my battery was left and Google Play Services was taking a big 87% of my battery drain..., ouch. Hope it get resolved soon.

    I have a Nexus 5 with Kit Kat 4.4.

  • Brian Iturralde

    i have an HTC one X and play services are not even there

  • Detonation

    CacheUpdateService has had a wakelock for the last 22 out of 23 hours. My google account says sync error and at the bottom "sync is currently experiencing problems. it will be back shortly" but every item from my google account is syncing. Reboot did not fix. Gonna remove/readd my google account and see what happens

  • jibust

    Actually, I have had issues with Google Servers for the past 3 days, can't log in to G+ and or Hangouts or any app that uses G+ sign in. Posted in the G+ help comunity and its like talking to the wind.

  • Stephen McGann

    I've been noticing that problem on my Moto X. Good to see I'm not crazy

  • Max

    Thank goodness for this article. I was worried it was my phone.

  • JPB

    I don't think this is just today. My Nexus 7 inexplicably burned through battery overnight 2 nights ago and it showed Services as the #1 user.

  • Vladimir Cuevas

    Why?

  • jamesfuston

    I only noticed this when using GEL on my HTC One. Everything went back to normal as soon as I went back to stock.

  • Aegeuss

    I think location services is the one to blame; I have noticed on my Stock Note3 how much extra battery juice I have gained by turning off the location services and only enable it when specifically needed, like gps navigation.

  • LaDeX

    That's how it has always worked on my phone when using Google Now.

  • gauiis

    Some CacheUpdateService is hogging my battery.

  • https://steamcommunity.com/id/m-p-3 m-p{3}

    Thanks for keeping an eye for us on all these kind of stuff AP!

    You make our smartphone lives much easier :)

  • mohj

    It's because they're pulling personal data for NSA for the last couple of weeks.

  • Svet

    I have had some luck so far disabling the Google Drive sync in settings->accounts. So far my Nexus 5 goes to sleep as it should. Let's see if it will last.

  • gierso

    :O

    well a little bit of topic. or maybe they are related

    i have seen that the auto timezone is constanly changing time in my country (mexico central time) like it doesnt know if its -5 or -6 hours (stupid daylight savings)

    i has been like this for almost 2 weeks. (i had to turn of auto time and auto timezone settings [both])

    maybe it has to do with google play services going nuts maybe its unrelated :(

  • Simon Belmont

    I noticed this on my Nexus 5 yesterday. It destroyed my battery life for most of the day because it was keeping my phone awake for hours.

    I did a reboot and that seemed to stop it. The Google Play Services battery usage percentage finally went down after doing that and haven't had the issue today.

  • Nick

    Has been murdering my battery for two days. Possibly related, my Google account says that sync is having problems

    • Fifth313ment

      This is getting crazy! I unplugged my Note 3 at like 3 am and haven't touched it as I was sleeping and my note is now at 89% battery with no screen on time! I haven't even picked it up! And Google Play services in the battery area shows 64% and keeping my phone AWAKE for 11 hours! WTF?!

      5th

  • BlackBoy88

    I deactivated Google Now and it lower the battery consumption of Google Play Service...

  • http://CatReligion.org/ Bast Hotep

    There's a new emergency release of the factory images out presumably addressing this serious problem.

  • sagisarius

    I do have the thing where it's using 50% of battery... but the phone is actually at the same battery level it always is this time of day. I wonder if it's just a display error?

  • Carlos Bojorges

    Acording to Wakelock Detector it's the "CacheUpdateService" whatever that is. In my phone it's been runing for 9 freaking hours and counting.

  • meelyg

    Funny thing is, uninstalling google play services is practically out of the picture since almost every google app now relies on it lol

  • http://remixedcat.blogspot.com RemixedCat

    SMH I gotta charge my gnex enough as it is :(

  • Kenne Phimmasonsouk

    Turn off use wireless networks in location services.

  • Manol Chalakov

    Ok root your phone and use Greenify.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
    I haven't got any problems with my device since using it.Oh and it lets you hibernate all other system apps and those that cut down the RAM :)

  • Sootie

    I thought it was because hangouts was failing to send and receive my MMS's

  • PB

    Google Play Services shows 61% battery drain on both N5 & N7 (2012)!

  • Felipe13

    Go to location services and uncheck "use wireless networks". This seems to fix the problem for me.

  • John

    I believe the latest Hangouts update is to blame.

  • black

    Still going strong.

  • Heywood Jablohmee

    The TSA and NSA goons love people who buy iphones and Nexus., No removable battery so they can be turned on remotely even if you think your phone is off.

    There ARE times when I don't want to be tracked by ANYONE. so I just pop out my battery on my S4.

    Same with the micro SD card,.

  • Cerberus_tm

    Hmm this is not happening to me, Galaxy Nexus 4.2.2. What version of the Google Play Services is this? I have 4.0.34 (924341-36).

  • Wyatt Coleman

    Google is draining my DNA faster than it can charge

  • Emma B

    I've had my tablet drain from fully charged yesterday to almost flat today, 75% of up time, 16 hours of Play Store useage!

  • Matthias

    I haven't had problems with Google Play Services until yesterday... right now, Play Services is listed with 80% of battery usage on my HTC One (GPE on 4.3)... really annoying. :/

  • Øyvind Alexander Frivold

    google needs to get their sh** together ASAP.

  • Ryan Smith

    What does force stop mean? And does it help preserve battery life? What are some tips on presving battery.

  • Rumpelstiltskin

    To stop Google Play Services from draining your battery, simply turn off Google Now, or at least "Hotword detection", which is a new feature for 4.4, also known as "Ok Google".

    • Matthias

      It happens on Android 4.3 or lower, too.

  • jack

    Not only this, but blocking flash across two different devices after upgrading to Kit Kat on one device...upgraded my Nexus 10 to kit kat but didn't upgrade my Nexus 7 but now flash is blocked on the Nexus 7.. N10 /kitkat blocked natively and online except for puffin, Nexus 7 will still run flash natively but is Blocked online.

  • Matthias

    Right now I'm still having Play Services at 78% of my battery usage, and I've had plenty of screen-on time doing various things... So this is far too much.... This sucks.

  • w0by

    My HTC One could go all day without charging until I went to bed..now by the time I leave for work at 4:45 it is already saying it needs to be charged. Really annoying.

  • Lauren

    Glad it's not just me. Google Services is currently using 83% of my battery -.- it's running completely flat in just hours.

  • SW

    I have the same problem ... except I only see it when my phone is connected to my home's WiFi network. Its battery usage pattern would look completely normal throughout the day, and then as soon as I get home, Google Play Services starts spinning so fast the battery drains to red before I even finish brushing my teeth for bed. In the batter chart I can see the "Awake" portion being lit up like a Christmas tree despite the corresponding "Screen on" portion being blank.

  • Dmitry Perets

    The same started to happen on my 4.1 too. Just removing "Google Now" didn't help. I found that it is solved when I disable using Wifi/mobile in Location settings. But this is not a good workaround - applications like Google Maps can't find me quickly, when they use only GPS... So I narrowed it down just to disabling "Location Reporting" (and then cleaning "Location History" and rebooting the phone). This seems to work for me, even when using Wifi/mobile is enabled. Seems to be related with the latest "Google Play Services" update - they mentioned there some "Location API geofencing improvements"... Hmmm... improvements...

    • Matthias

      I also tried all of this. Didn't help for me.

      Three weeks after this post and it's still not fixed :(

      If I don't turn off the phone (or switch to airplane mode) over night, I lose about 20% of battery in 8 hours of sleep. (HTC One GPE)

      • Dmitry Perets

        Eventually, I also noticed that disabling "Location Reporting" doesn't help... But still, if I disable Wifi/mobile in Location settings, it helps. So this what I do for now... Pretty bad, since now it takes a while until Google Maps locates me...

  • SomeMoreHaruForYou

    Good to know I'm not the only one. My Galaxy nexus used to get about 20 hours on a charge. Now I'm lucky to get 10. This needs to be fixes ASAP or i'm leaving google for one of their competitors.
    Get your shit together, google!

  • http://youtube.com/user/rangerstudios01 Angelo Thompson

    I was able to fix the battery issue by disabling Location Reporting and Location History under Google settings. Now, Google Play Services has gone from 30-35% battery usage down to 2%, with no difference in location accuracy. Even after restating and leaving it on overnight, the issue has not come back.

  • david walker

    This started for me in the last few days. Google services currently at 99% of battery usage, google now and location turned off.
    I am having to turn the phone off overnight just for it to charge!

  • Carlos

    Google fix your crappy software please!!! You are slowly turning into a very shitty company.

  • icy4android

    I posted this elsewhere but might as well share my fix for others to try.

    "Hey- I don't know if you, or anyone else has found a working solution, but here is the way I found best:
    Note- I am on galasy s4 [sgh-i337] running a 4.4 KitKat rom. I have found the following work around to work best for me:

    1 Google now & Hotword detection=OFF,
    2 GPS = OFF and turned on only when needed, eg maps/checkin on facebook/whatever needs location.
    3 Settings-> Manage Apps -> Google Play Services -> Manage Space -> Clear All Data.

    **Optional:After this [root only] I go into KT tweaker and make sure my phone cpu is set to a max of 810 Mhz when screen off.**

    This fix usually works until I reset the phone. I ALWAYS follow those 3 steps when rebooting. AND always check that after I've used GPS that Google Play Services isn't keeping my phone awake. [Eg, after 30 minutes I check if the phone ever went to sleep again when the screen was off.] IF it does act up, I repeat steps 1, 2 &3. I still get notifications and all, and this is the least feature disabling way I've found that works with the cost of a little micro-management of your phone.

    With this fix I can idle for an estimated 5-6days. As I take off my phone from charge at 8am and at noon with minimal usage [maybe 4 or 5 texts] I am at 97%. With WiFi on & connected.

    OTHER: I personally keep NFC&Android beam&Bluetooth OFF, and turn ON when I need it on. Other- WiFi is always ON, and "Scanning Always Available" & "WiFi Optimization" is checked ON for me. And for location mode when I do have it on, I keep it at high accuracy. Using both wifi and mobile networks/gps to find my location.

    All in all, I hope this gets fixed. "

  • lll

    but what keeps it eat our internal storage?

  • aedwards

    I use dragon assist. on my gal.3, but it drain my battery fast, when not in use is it okay to force stop this app or any other app not being use to help battery?

  • Danno

    Google Services “Stay Awake” fixed.

    I had all the same symptoms on my Samsung Galaxy S3, my battery would drain from 100% to 10% in around 5 hours, under settings/Battery
    “Google Services” would be around %70-%80 of the battery drain, if I opened “Google
    Services” “Stay Awake” would be only a few minutes less than “time on battery”,
    and my S3 would always feel warm in my pocket. After totally wiping my phone
    and reloading everything, and swapping out my phone hardware, I still had the
    exact same problem. Here is my fix: settings/accounts, click on “Google”. "Google is always syncing. At the bottom “Cancel Sync”. Under the account name it now reports “Sync failed”. This fixed the battery drain, and “Google Services” “Stay Awake”, and
    I didn’t lose any functionality. My phone didn’t try to sync again till several
    hours later, and the battery drain started again. I then went back to settings/accounts,
    click on “Google” then at the bottom “Cancel Sync”, again. Ever since that, now
    my phone is syncing “Google” every hour or so, “Google Services” is at 3% of my
    battery drain, and right now I’m at 4h 18m on battery and “Google Services” “Stay
    Awake” is at 5m 59s, and my battery is at 88% with “screen” responsible for 45%
    of my battery drain. Hope this helps others.

  • pat

    Spy ware that is what it is. That is what I think

  • pat

    every new Google app wants more and more permission. they want to take videos pictures without your permission send texts turn your microphone on without permission

  • BitchPlease

    "good job" google, and now we´ll be waiting 5years for the fix,