31
Oct
Android KitKat

Update: Here's an official Google Support answer stating the GNex will indeed be stuck in 4.3-land for eternity.

At the bottom of Google's official Android 4.4 announcement post on the company's blog, some rather pertinent information for current Nexus / GPE device owners is thrown in: OTA update news!

KitKat will be coming to the Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (presumably both models, but not explicitly stated), Nexus 10, and the Google Play Edition Galaxy S4 and HTC One. Those updates will be available in, you guessed it, "the coming weeks." Absent from the list, as some expected, is the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy Nexus was the world's first Android 4.0 smartphone, and its fate after an update to Android 4.3 was certainly up in the air for a while there. Many pointed out that while Android 4.1 was a major update, 4.2 and 4.3 were much more incremental, and that for that, Google may have given the GNex one last hurrah on the OTA list. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case, though it's understandable, considering the company that made the chipset for the device has since gotten out of the mobile business, Samsung seems pretty much out as a Nexus partner, and the phones themselves are getting pretty long in the tooth.

We're working on our Android 4.4 overview post, but in the meantime, be sure to check out the Nexus 5 announcement post, and get yours before they're gone!

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David Ruddock
David's phone is whatever is currently sitting on his desk. He is an avid writer, and enjoys playing devil's advocate in editorials, and reviewing the latest phones and gadgets. He also doesn't usually write such boring sentences.

  • Nevi_me

    My body is ready [1]

    The changelog is quite juicy: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html

    • Alex James Simon

      Immersive Mode, Screen Recording, GPU Acceleration, and GLES2.0 SerfaceFlinger, sound the most interesting well to me at least :D

  • boogie_monster

    so how is this new version of Android supposed to solve the fragmentation and is designed to work on low end devices when Google itself won't update GNEX?

    • zapote21

      Not Google... Verizon...

      • boogie_monster

        no I mean GSM version of GNEX.

      • Dinofan01

        The GNEX is on more than just verizon and sprint. They have a version that speaks directly to Google and not through carriers.

      • Nathan Borup

        Not verizon, google. Google provides the factory images for the nexus phones/tablets, its not the traditional over the air updates the have to be approved by the carrier

      • ballaz

        dumbass

    • Jeff718

      It's probably just the VZW Gnex that won't get updated. I bet the GSM version will be updated. Some day.

      • Christopher Bement

        You want to go back and re-read? Verizon probably won't even see 4.3. No Gnex is getting 4.4 unless a 3rd part dev is able to put a hacked rom together...No confidence in that either.

        • Jeff718

          Got it, thanks. Just sitting back and accepting all my down arrows.

          • Christopher Bement

            It's not like they really matter anyway, and you can always edit. :)

          • Jeff718

            I will accept my meaningless internet points like a man! Edit-schmedit.

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            MATTER? "Matter" is a virtualized technology, running on something MUCH weirder and COOL! ;)

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            There ARE no down arrows. The only way is UP!

        • Michael J Carroll

          I dunno. It will most likely happen... I had an old Virgin Mobile LG Optimus V before. It only had a 600MHZ processor, 512 RAM, and 512MB of memory but some awesome son of a bitch was able to produce an Android 4.1 ROM for it. It ran pretty well on my phone. It may take a few weeks to a few months, but I wouldn't put it past CM, PA, AOKP, or even an independent developer to produce a stable 4.4 ROM for the GN.

          • Moku

            That's funny, because my Optimus V with CM10 runs horribly. What ROM did you use for it?

          • Michael J Carroll

            I started with a different one, but I switched to the bobvhome (I believe) ROM. Of course it wasn't as fast as you'd hope and there were glitches, but it ran itself and apps better than the 2.2 froyo that came with it. Did you use link2sd?

          • Moku

            I do not believe I did. If I did, I would have remembered it.

          • Michael J Carroll

            That could have been part of the problem. Link2sd automatically stores all your app files on your sd card and tricks your phone into thinking they still are on the phone. It saves a lot of room and lets the ROM run easier.

        • Simos Katsiaris

          Just install cyanogen mod and it's not google's fault that they didn't have money to produce it there own like nexus s and nexus 4, they bought motorola that year, the reason it never got 4.3 was that if they did give it then it would had been unfair to verizon that payed for the development and manufacturing of the phone and they would had to pay her

        • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

          HAVE CONFIDENCE! People are AWESOME! THEY DO THE BEST THEY CAN- ENCOURAGE! <3

      • Dave Molina

        I'm hoping too that they will decide to push it out to the GNex - it's a perfectly good phone that deserves a little more love and life from Google.

        • Jeff718

          Looks like there is an official Google update at the top of this article saying it won't go past 4.3. :(

          • Dave Molina

            hopefully they will get enough backlash from people to get them to change their minds.

      • Cory Wilson

        uh no. They mean all Galaxy Nexuses including the poor guys that paid over $400 to get one off the play store

    • Renan Lazarotto

      note that, like all company in the world, they want to sell. it doesn't make sense to give life to a older product when they can induct you to buy a new one. also, just because it can run on a low-end device, it doesn't mean that it HAS to. I think that google did this because the huge amount of crappy galaxy's samsung release everyday, this way they might be updated.

      • Adam Truelove

        Wrong, Google doesn't care about selling hardware, they care about getting Android and Google services into as many hands as possible. It's in their interest to update as much old hardware as possible.

        • Renan Lazarotto

          if you say so... I'm not very into Google's software policies, to me it just don't make sense.

          • Stylus_XL

            "I'm not very into Google's software policies, to me it just don't make sense."

            Google are about selling advertising and digital services, not hardware. They only sell hardware to influence the direction of Android and to steer people towards their services.

            It has been widely reported that Google is selling at least some of its mobile devices at a loss, and those that don't only have small profit margins. Amazon adopts the same strategy with its Kindle range.

          • KN

            What's your point? Selling subsidized models certainly doesn't make a dent in Google's yearly revenues, it's still one of the biggest companies in the world.
            Google has enough resources to compile a ROM for GNex, they just chose not to for reasons that have nothing to do with subsidy or limited resources.

          • Simos Katsiaris

            and xiaomi with there products,

      • pfmiller

        Providing lousy support to products does not seem like the best way to win repeat customers. Granted, in the Android world Google's support is sadly about as good as it gets, but Google should be at least matching Apple when it comes to support for legacy hardware.

    • blumpkinator

      My guess is that the low end devices is a reference to devices currently being manufactured with low end SOC. Think mediatek devices in china and the plethora of horrid ultra low end devices destined for developing markets. Currently many of these devices ship with gingerbread as 4.x requires more resources than they have onboard.

      Your galaxy nexus is just old... TI has also exited the mobile SOC business so it's not like there are any updated drivers available from TI...

      Considering how much better high end devices are now than the Gnex, you're just punishing yourself by hanging onto it. Do yourself a favor and get something better.

      • Robert Alex Kibler

        Are you going to send me the money so I can do that? Some of us don't have $350+ disposable income to throw at a new phone.

        • Crzycoco

          Get a job then.

          • Alin Ruptureanu

            I think you're missing the point. A 2 year old device which won't get a 0.1 version bump? That's just lame and sad for google. Bye bye Nexus devices support )

          • Vasily Sochinsky

            Really frustrating is that the iPhone 4 support lasts after _two_ Nexus devices have it dropped.

          • UCLAKoolman

            My 4S lags terribly on iOS 7. Disabling the animations and parallax still couldn't bring back the snappiness of iOS 6.0. I imagine it's only worse on the iPhone 4. Even the phone call-screen takes over a second to appear when answering a call. It's not pleasant.

          • mrjayviper

            and my wife's 4s is working fine and I've seen numerous reports in forums that says their 4s is working fine as well.

            What I'm saying is, 4s and iOS7 can be a great experience.

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            flip/flop/flip/flop--- is this ONE dimensional, this fanboy nonsense? it's just WRONG! But without NEEDING to buy new phones- how do we develop better? It's difficult without ADAPTIVE TECHNOLOGY... the HARDWARE we use needs to be a VIRTUALIZATION- THEN we're all cool, right? I BELIEVE that SOMEONE has/will talk to GOOGLE about this... ;)

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            ...and then people will complain we're not utilizing the FULL potential of the system... like humans only use 1/10th of theirs! :P <3

          • Cory Wilson

            Yep. The iPhone 4 got ios7, and it came out half a year before the Nexus S. The Nexus S certainly isn't getting kitkat even though it's deisgned to "run on devices with 512mb of ram"

          • fabulosospucas

            Will it cease to work starting Tuesday?

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            That would be SO COOL! Imagine the shouting! Angry consumer goes green, rips off shirt, becoming suddenly RIPPED at being ripped off... LOLZ! <3

          • Michael J Carroll

            I still think that an 18-month window is a bad business decision. I believe that phones ought to receive support for their entire 24-month standard life. You're losing them during that last six months and that anger could be just enough to send them to a competitor.

          • ltredbeard

            They kept the Nexus S updated for longer than that right? Could this be something to do with the drivers?

          • Michael J Carroll

            I've heard murmers it has to do with TI, the company who made the SoC to begin with, closed their ARM chip line, which may relate to the drivers being blocked.

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            Cars don't kill people, DRIVERS do! Or the lack of them... AND updates for phones, and USEABLE AOSP roms for Samsung phones... and isn't it in the story that it's a defunkt manufacturer/driver issue?

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            I mean USEABLE AND MAXIMUM SMOOTH thanks to Manufacturer playing the AOSP GAME rather than just PLAYING AOSP developers :P (By, say: PROMISING to share driver sources etc. that it never shares!!! Samsung. Yes YOU! Profit is NOT as important as KUDOS or RESPECT or just plain KOOLNESS- Profit over co-operation sucks ass- Samsung is Felcher#1 in the Android world, no?)

          • boogie_monster

            unfortunately people seem to forget that phones used to be some sort of investment, you got a good phone and wouldn't need to change it for at least 2-3 years, it would do the job and with smartphones these days they do a lot more than just calling. nowadays, people look at them as a seasonal fashion gadgets, unfortunately this is changed because of the ideology that Apple created with their fanboism model. now consumerism is accepted in our society and if you act against it, you are either a moron or "live in a cave and no nothing about technology". the point is wasting is wasting, it's just because the new phone is shinier and has better specs doesn't necessarily mean your old phone is no good. I believe although there were many problems with GNEX but overall it was a good phone, and if a phone with 512MB memory can run Kitkat why not GNEX? I still have a very good battery life left in my GNEX, I like the way it sits in my hand and hate some parts of it too, but if I can use it why not use it a bit more?

          • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

            Some people DO have jobs- IMPORTANT ones- that pay NO MONEY- 24 people so far did not like your comment- lazy bastards! :P

        • Wozn2

          Go and buy a secondhand Nexus 4. There will be plenty to choose from next week.

        • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

          N4 is 200$

        • blumpkinator

          your current phone has value. buy a used model of whatever device you like. Then sell your existing device to recoup some (most) of the expense.

          If you use swappa or ebay you can do billmelater and get 6 months to pay it off the new purchase with no interest.

        • UCLAKoolman

          Why do you NEED to buy a new phone?! The GNEX isn't going to become unusable because it doesn't have 4.4 installed.

        • anond

          hell, if have a motorola droid mini with 2GB RAM and 720p screen running android 4.2.2 and it runs perfectly and i got it for $99 with a 2 year contract

      • gargamel

        Your point regarding TI is obviously wrong. If developers can compile 4.4 from source code and run it on the Gnex, Google could have done the same.
        What Google actually said is that Nexus devices will never get more than one major update, because Nexus is typically announced with a new version of Android, so its 18 months will always laps before the second major update.
        This is much much worse than Apple. Noted.

        • Moku

          You're right on everything except for the fact that the Nexus S got two major updates, being Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean.

    • RamitSuri

      It's a Nexus... come on Google. I've been pushing people to get Nexus devices. My brother got N4 last week. But it won't be updated after 4.5/5.0. This makes me go mad. I absolutely hate Apple and iOS but after reading this news I actually appreciated them for the first time. However bad it may run on iPhone 4, but they still put in the effort to support it for 3 years. I have a friend with one and if it wasn't for the last update, he could have used it for 2 more years easily. Also 18 months window was more like a request to OEMs. It wasn't that the device will only be supported this long. :(..

      • Cory Wilson

        Yeah love or hate apple it's hard to deny they provide the absoloute best support in the industry. Google's 18 month policy is so outdated. This all started because the Nexus One couldn't run ICS to their standards. No shit. They intended on updating it to ICS but the GPU struggled with all the hardware acceleration in ICS, so they canceled the update, and waddayaknow the nexus one just happened to be 18 months old! So they decided that after 18 months there's no point in even trying. Bad Google

  • Dinofan01

    They're claiming 4.4 is an update light weight enough to run on nearly any android device yet they can't commit to an OTA for the Galaxy Nexus? Come on. I'm not expecting an update for Sprint and Verizon but at least for their non-carrier specific Galaxy Nexus would be enough.

    • Dominic Powell

      the problem is TI is out of business...

      • NeedName

        TI stopped focusing on the mobile market, they still make chips.

        • Transflux

          So, in other words, they're out of this specific business.

          • h4rr4r

            Nope they still provide support for those parts.
            Go ask your friendly neighborhood embedded developers.

          • NeedName

            They still support their SoC. The OMAP 5 isn't very old. The driver issue is speculation.

            Google's 18 month update police is NOT speculation.

    • jm9843

      Limited resources.

      • bubadance

        google definetly does not have limited resources, they just want to get the gnex out of the way. Very bad move

        • Arthur Dent

          "google definetly does not have limited resources, they just want to get the gnex out of the way."

          I'm sure you've based that on factual information, right?

        • gtg465x

          Have you ever seen Google's campus in person? The building for the Android department is rather small actually.

          • Geronimo Alive

            They are all based in the same building? What about geo redundancy and disaster recovery?

    • evolutionx1

      If I'm correct, they has this thing were software updates will be provided for 18 months and not after that.

      • bubadance

        that's microsoft

    • n0th1ng_r3al

      I think most people got pretty good life out of the Galaxy Nexus, I know I did.

  • Royal2000H

    So much for KitKat is meant to reduce fragmentation and run on budget/old devices too.

    I'm sure it'll be rommed quickly though.

    • jm9843

      Google is referring to *new* low-end devices coming to market. Before KitKat, they'd have to fall back to Gingerbread or worse. Now, they can ship with 4.4 because of the memory optimizations.

  • http://www.mscha.nl/ Michael Schaap

    That'd be a shame if the Galaxy Nexus doesn't get 4.4; 4.3 is a little bit too heavy for it. (The laucher needs to restart all the time for me, even after just browsing a couple of pages in Chrome.) For me, 4.1 was perfect, 4.2 and 4.3 a lot worse.
    If 4.4 is indeed more memory friendly, it really should go to the Galaxy Nexus.
    (Not that I care that much - I've already ordered my Nexus 5.)

    • runderekrun

      Chrome is your problem. Use AOSP browser.

  • vwbeetlvr

    4.4 should have been available for the Nexus 7 today. Wtf. Charged it up for no reason.

    • Jeff718

      So you bought the tablet only so you can update it?

      • vwbeetlvr

        At this point basically yes. My Note 3 has taken over and my Nexus is only So I can try out the newest version of Android.

    • http://nicholsonrecords.com/paul Paul Nicholson

      This must be your first Nexus rodeo... They never come out on the day they are announced.

    • blumpkinator

      well there's also the reason of being able to use it. Kinda hard to do anything at all when your battery is flat.

  • guest01
    • NyKommentator

      The answer is right here: Yes there won't be an update for gnex.

      Also they say it's customary not to update longer than 18 months, only half a year left in my N4 :-(

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      Good catch!

      • hipster

        So..does this mean Nexus 4 and 5 won't get updates after 18 months from release dates?

        • mustbepbs

          Correct. This will be the final major update for the Nexus 7 (2012).

    • VegasDude73

      Just because it falls out of the 18 month window doesn't necessarily mean it's not compatible with the new OS. How disappointing.

    • NeedName

      So, Google is saying very clearly that NO Android device should "last" (software wise) in their opinion beyond 18 months. . ..

      LAME! More crap in the junk yards faster, and Google claims to care about the environment?

      • ButcherChop

        Recycling is up to you.

        • NeedName

          Yeah, all tech products get recycled 100%. . ..

          s/

    • SetiroN

      It's all about traditions

  • miver

    What about New Nexus10?

  • an Astronaut

    Google Play Edition Galaxy S4 and HTC One are going to update in coming weeks. Nexus' today.

  • Toomin

    Oh COME ON!! Give it to the GNex!!

  • abobobilly

    Kit Kat was said to offer better support for Low End devices to it doesn't make any sense excluding Galaxy Nexus from OTA list. Seriously Google! Don't play Samsung Games with us, Please.

    P.S. I am just concerned. I don't own a Galaxy Nexus :p

    • VegasDude73

      I own one and you make a great point.

    • blumpenstein

      galaxy nexus uses a TI omap 4 SOC. TI exited the mobile SOC game so no updated drivers are available.

      • abobobilly

        Now i get it. Thanks for that answer :)

        If we think about it, the beauty of Android barely let any device get affected by such decisions. 3rd Party Support is always greater than the official support. And i genuinely think that G.Nexus has the potential to last another 2 years with ease.

        So yeah, i'd say its not "The End" for G.Nexus just yet. However the era of Inconvenience have begun so owners should make themselves ready, 'eh!?

      • NeedName

        Google doesn't say that's the reason. It's due to their arbitrary 18 month rule. . . nothing about drivers.

        • blumpkinator

          the 18 month rule is easier for your average user to wrap their mind around rather than explaining the intricacies of drivers and kernels.

          When the nexus 7 was released, but lacked video drivers in AOSP due to douchebaggery on qualcomm's part google didn't say anything about it. (Guesss they figured nexus owners wouldn't try to build and flash AOSP on it?)

          JBQ personally revealed that information and also departed google because of it.

          SOC vendors and their insistence on keeping drivers proprietary are doing a huge disservice to the openness of android. On the other hand, it's likely they don't open source their drivers because the code is an absolute mess and they don't want everyone to see how bad it is.

      • h4rr4r

        That is nothing but speculation.

  • Drome

    No IR blaster?

    • Nevi_me

      Native support included as tipped/leaked

      • Drome

        not part of the announcement...

  • Andrew Tseng

    Phone is "long in the tooth"? It's less than 2 years old. Particularly my Verizon variant, which won't allow me to upgrade for another 2 months. I hoped that Google would support their own phones for more than 2 years, but even Apple will wait 3 years before making their phones obsolete.

    • h4rr4r

      March for me.
      Leaving VZW over the delays and loss of unlimited.

    • Panaka

      This is a situation where Google needs drivers that work with 4.4. TI made the Omap 5 chip that is in the base Gnex and they are not in the mobile business and will not update drivers. The same thing happened with the HTC One S (I think it was the S) a few months ago when Qualcomm dropped support for its chip.

      • Simon Belmont

        Actually it's an OMAP 4. Just saying.

        But you're right overall. It's because of the drivers more than likely.

      • NeedName

        1. the gNexus has OMAP 4
        2. Google says it is due to age of device, not lack of SoC driver support from TI.
        3. TI is still supporting their SoC — OMAP 5 isn't that old

  • gani.slimshady

    Looks like a problem with the closed source drivers

  • http://ashutoshmishra.org/ Ashutosh Mishra

    "We have optimized Android so it'll run on cheap, entry-level phones! But fuck Galaxy Nexus, that shit ain't getting no KitKat."

    Makes sense, Google.

    • Stylus_XL

      Well, I suppose in fairness Google has the Nexus 7 2012, the Nexus 7 2013, the Nexus 10 2012, the (upcoming) Nexus 10, the Nexus 4, the Nexus 5, the HTC One GPE and the SG4 GPE to support now. Not to mention the rumoured smartwatch they're developing, the Chromecast, Google TV, and their numerous Chrome OS netbooks.

      They don't have unlimited resources, and the GNex did make it through four OS revisions - which is roughly what Apple affords its devices. The custom ROM developer community can provide further support going forward.

      It does suck, though.

      • http://ashutoshmishra.org/ Ashutosh Mishra

        Supporting eight Android devices shouldn't be that big of a deal for a company the size and calibre of Google. And that too, only OTA software support (it doesn't have to provide hardware support because it doesn't make these devices).

        Apple supports its iOS devices for at least 2 years, and usually 3 years. iPhone 4 will be 3.5-4 years old by the time it gets phased out of the support cycle (with either iOS 7.x or 8).

        • Stylus_XL

          "Supporting eight Android devices shouldn't be that big of a deal for a company the size and calibre of Google."

          It's easy for you to say that without knowing anything about their infrastructure and how their budgets are designated.

          Hardware support is an irrelevant point because most companies outsource that anyway.

          Once again, Google has generally supported their mobile phones and tablets as much as or more than Apple has, and they provide much better OS support than Android OEMs typically do. It's not as if dropping further OS updates for GNex represents a deviation from industry practice.

          People are mainly pissed because Google claims that KitKat has significant benefits for low end hardware - that's understandable. But the practice of dropping OS updates for aging discontinued devices is entirely normal.

          • ballz

            shut your dirty SJ mouth

        • gierso

          because the iphone 4, 4s, and 5 are escencially the same phone all over again with tweaks here and there to make an apparent difference.

        • Robert Phipps

          That's why I bought a Nexus, because I knew that even if the updates stopped, XDA developers would keep the updates available for a couple of extra updates. You can't do that (as easily/legally) with iPhone. Still waiting for my N4's OTA update, might go for an AOSP ROM if I can't wait...

      • SetiroN

        Yeah, it's so hard.
        I mean, it takes amateur developers a full one week to port new android versions to previous nexus devices, how could google do it...

        • gierso

          but they have binaries to do that thats the part google wont do anymore for the galaxy nexus :(

      • HawtCrozzedBunz

        I don't think they maintain the GPE devices. They send the OS to the OEMs who makes those devices. That's what I've heard at least.

    • Cory Wilson

      I sort of see Google's point but at the same time, the play store Gnex went on sale shortly before the OG nexus 7. The OG nexus 7 is slated for an update, the Gnex isn't. IMO 18 months from the time of the exclusive Verizon version doesn't really count, the support life should of started over as soon as they sold it on the play store, otherwise with the Nexus 4 just around the corner, they probably shouldn't have even bothered. It's the play store buyers that really got the raw deal here.

    • sachin goral

      I'm never gonna buy the Nexus 5 just because Google forces us to do so by not letting us taste the kitkat !
      -proud Galaxy Nexus owner

      Sign this Official petition and let's see whether that makes Google change their mind or let them be like Apple -
      https://www.change.org/petitions/google-update-the-galaxy-nexus-with-android-4-4-kitkat

    • Moku

      One of the best comments I've ever had the pleasure to read.

  • Guest

    And here I was expecting KitKat for my Nexus S, after all this "...now Android can run comfortably on the 512MB of RAM devices that are
    popular in much of the world, bringing the latest goodies in Android 4.4
    within reach for the next billion smartphone users." talk.

    Probably it'll get it thru XDA :)

  • gani.slimshady

    Hopefully my nexus 4 receives the next version of android at least! :(

    • Robb Nunya

      It will.

    • NeedName

      And it will probably be the last major update. As it should be about 18 months old when I/O takes place. . . .

    • gierso

      yes it will unless qualcomm stops supporting the chip... like TI did on the Gnex..
      thats the main problem..
      i expect to see kitkat on 512 MB phones, but not on TI OMAP ones

      • h4rr4r

        That is pure speculation. TI still makes ARM chips and could still produce drivers for this SOC.

        • gierso

          yes its speculation, but likely a very good reason, or at least i will forgive google if it is the reason.. otherwise they should drop support so fast

          the thing is that the ARM chips TI they do know are embeded systems or development boards and not actual mobile devices.

          but lets see if the Motorola Razrs get kitkat, then most likely the Gnex will gettit as its an improved SoC

          assuming SoC support is the reason.

          • h4rr4r

            It is a bad reason, it means they were so stupid they did not bother to get contracted support.

            It does not matter if the RAZRS get support, that has nothing to do with it. That will simply mean Moto was smart enough to get contracted support.

  • remister

    RIP GNEX, I will still use you!

  • Simon Belmont

    Sad to hear this, if it's true. I own a GSM Galaxy Nexus and I was expecting the update to Android 4.4.

    The G'Nex still has plenty powerful hardware. My guess is it's because TI has dropped out of the SoC business and new drivers couldn't be updated for KitKat.

    • blumpkinator

      plenty powerful hardware? you must not have used any top end phone released in the last two years... There have been amazing improvements in SOC since then.

      • NeedName

        It's still decent especially IF the new version is so "light on hardware resources."

        Why throw something out when it's perfectly capable for most?

      • Simon Belmont

        For a two year old phone, it holds its own just fine. And FYI, I've used my wife's HTC One and my sister's Galaxy Note 3 and they don't seem THAT much faster in perceived UI smoothness over my G'Nex (I'm sure they open apps a second or two faster, and have better benchmarks, but day to day use isn't hugely different).

        When I say plenty powerful enough, I mean it could probably easily run Android 4.4, without issue. Instead, Google is saying it falls outside the 18 month support window (something they really never said they officially observed until now) and not updating it.

        • blumpkinator

          There's also the issue of 4.4 using a newer linux kernel and TI not supporting the Omap 4 anymore.. Without compatible drivers for the hardware, a 4.4 rom will be sub-optimal.

          • Simon Belmont

            Lol. I said exactly that in my OP above.

            But yes, I do agree with you. Obviously.

          • Simon Belmont

            Which is exactly what I said in my OP. You know, way up there. ;)

            So, yeah, I agree with you. Cheers. :)

  • Adam Truelove
  • VegasDude73

    uhm yeah I bought the galaxy nexus from the play store for the very reason that it would at least get 2 major updates. What gives.

    • blumpenstein

      It saw 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3. That's more updates than most devices get.

      • Bojan Tomic

        4.2 and 4.3 are very minor updates.

      • VegasDude73

        yes what Bojan said. they were very minor indeed. So yes, while they were updates they weren't major at all.

        Either way, it's kind of disappointing knowing that even if you buy straight from the play store you're not going to get the latest OS if you are just outside of the 18 month window.

        • blumpkinator

          I don't understand how you can hang onto a device for 18 months! I seem to have trouble keeping a device for more than 6 months.

          With the high resale value of GSM devices it's relatively cheap and easy to jump around to different devices.

          If your into mobile devices enough to care about OS updates, you should also be interested in the benefits of improved hardware.

          • NeedName

            you != everyone

          • VegasDude73

            Did I say I = Everyone?

          • blumpkinator

            Of course not, and I never implied that.
            people bitching about not getting an os update on a two year old mobile device with an SOC from a vendor that is no longer producing mobile SOC makes about as much sense as complaining that Windows 8 runs like shit on your pentium 4.

          • VegasDude73

            Show some proof that the GNex SoC can't run 4.4 and I'll show you a ROM that can. LOL Just give it time.

            It's a lame technique to force people to buy up.

          • Arthur Dent

            Is the SoC manufacturer still supporting that SoC and providing new drivers for the new Android version?

          • VegasDude73

            The question is are there any fundamental changes with the underlying distro that would require any driver changes to work with the SoC? The fluff on the surface of new features seems to indicate no. Did they make a major change to the kernel? That's the real question.

          • Arthur Dent

            I kept reading about a new Linux kernel version in Kit Kat. As far as other changes? I don't know if they were major enough to require new drivers, etc. However, I am seeing a lot of assumptions here that Google is just screwing people over. Maybe there are other reasons, maybe not.

          • VegasDude73

            entirely possible. Might be the same kind of thing with the BLE addition to 4.3 but not for the GNex.

          • blumpkinator

            It will probably be like when I tried running CM9 on my old HTC Desire. Sure it "worked" but it was far less than an optimal experience due to there not being drivers for anything newer than 2.2 for that device.

          • VegasDude73

            Well blumpkinator, to tell you the truth I'm not a fan of LG phones. So that's why I haven't switched. I prefer Samsung and HTC devices over LG. I additionally prefer less fluff with devices which is why I like the play store editions.

            It's no big deal though because now this just gives me a reason to start ROM'ing again lol. I'll complain but in reality I like ROM'ing a lot.

          • blupkinator

            Roms are half the fun of android for me.

            Interestingly, the gnex was my least favorite of the plethora of devices I've used.

            Only device I've ever had to replace the micro usb port. The plastic construction was also horrible, and a major reason why I haven't considered purchasing any samsung devices since.

            That said, replacing the glass lens on the back of the nexus 4 is a giant pain in the ass. Thanks LG for using glue to hold everything together :rolleyes:

          • VegasDude73

            I guess I just like the Samsung and HTC phones because I'm very familiar with ROM'ing them and there is a lot of support for them and tools.

  • Bojan Tomic

    I am so pissed that GNex won't get it!!!! -.-'

  • Chad

    Whaaaa?! They make a point of making Android run better on older/lower-spec devices, then leave out their own older/lower-spec device? Did I miss something?

    • gierso

      i dont think the galaxy nexus problem is the memory but the SoC is from TI (mentioned in the post) who left the mobile arena, so they are no developing more binaries for the phone... and samsung looks like its not supporting it either. so that leaves google with that hard decision!

      the community will have to patch up current source code for TI SoC's

      which is a lenghty work, and that will be probably a crippled xperience..

      por example see the DROID 3 development.. there was no Official ICS

      as TI dropped the towel around that time, and for a while the AOSP community brought a cripled experience for it (it wasn't a daily driver)

      and then the developer slowly but steady got an stable kernel that was actually usable but it was after a year of me selling the phone :P so i never got to taste of a good CM9,10,10.1 on it.

  • Chris80

    I cannot believe it. The perfect update support was the reason for me to buy a Nexus...and now, after just 18 month, its not any longer supported???? So the GNEX was my last android device...Bye, bye google

    • Zombie

      Though I agree that they should have upgraded the GNex, it's a 3 years old device, so they actually supported the phone for 3 years.

      • VegasDude73

        Where do you get 3 years? It was released November 2011

        • Zombie

          I was wrong, sorry, still 2 years.

          • NeedName

            And that is 2 years from it's introduction, not it's discontinued date.

    • VegasDude73

      I bought mine on June 27th 2012. So really not even 18 months for me, obviously a little shy of 2 years for the device itself. Still disappointing.

  • Gustavo

    I AM RAGING. I AM RAGING SO HARD. FU** YOU GOOGLE.

    • Chris Lambert

      It's 2 years old. Move on. Buy a new phone.

      • NeedName

        It's 2 years since it was introduced. Since it sold for nearly a year. . . bring up the old argument of when updates should continue from — date device arrives on market or date devices stops selling?

        Either way, it's arbitrary.

  • RitishOemraw

    Part of me knew this was going to happen. That is why I already got someone to order and ship me a N5. On the other hand I am sure people at XDA will get it working...if it works with 512mb ram then it will work on the Gnex!

    • gierso

      i dont think the galaxy nexus problem is the memory but the SoC is from TI who left the mobile arena, so they are no developing more binaries for the phone... and samsung looks like its not supporting it either. so that leaves google with that hard decision!

      the community will have to patch up current source code for TI SoC's
      which is a lenghty work, and that will be probably a crippled xperience..

      por example see the DROID 3 development.. there was no Official ICS
      as TI dropped the towel around that time, and for a while the AOSP community brought a cripled experience for it (it wasn't a daily driver)
      and then the developer slowly but steady got an stable kernel that was actually usable but it was after a year of me selling the phone :P so i never got to taste of a good CM9,10,10.1 on it.

  • GP

    "The coming weeks" meaning it won't be released OTA today?

  • makapav

    Guys, you all need to rage on +Sundar Pichai and +Android on Google+ to get their attention and response!!!

  • @bleakneonblack

    Claims 4.4 can run even on the most basic smartphones, but doesn't push it to it's own G-Nex. Not cool!

  • Mike Hussion

    The Galaxy Nexus was a phone built for when the Nexus line was still for developers. Is this really so surprising? I'm SURE we'll get a nice, clean custom ROM that emulates AOSP well.

    • rml hdr

      i'm hoping for this as well.. may even bite down and try to roll my own.

  • Lasse

    This sucks :(

  • Dejan Kokorovic

    What.... f...... You Google....

  • al

    XDA will have a rom for G nex before google releases kitkat to for the N4

  • developer

    That's a joke? Google speaks about... oooh! kit kat runs very well on 512mb ram machines. For what? No fragmentation. And now this GNex is at the corner of the android house.

    Bad Google, Bad. My last nexus and maybe... android device.

  • Bjajjull

    Not surprised but they say "Android 4.4 for everyone". Nope, not for the GNex...

    • makapav

      The hypocrisy! Actually, they are just a bunch of lazy bastards and don't want to support anything older than 18 months. Nevermind, that Jelly Bean is slow as hell on the Galaxy Nexus and it should be their moral duty to at least bring the user base to a smooth level before abandoning them.

  • Алекс

    Noooooooooooooooooooo

  • Sabin Bajracharya

    How long does it take for CyanogenMod to develop custom rom based on KitKat after the source code is released? Any Idea?

    • Franco Rossel

      Like two weeks.

    • Алекс

      3-4 months ((((

  • Andy Stetson

    My guess is the typical reader of this site shouldn't really care that google will not official support the GNex by giving it 4.4. Remember how awesome our dev community is? The GNex will have 4.4, just not from google.

    Now pull yourself together and relax.

    http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1529371/pull-yourself-together-o.gif

    • Bojan Tomic

      I trust in XDA! :)

    • NeedName

      Well, some of us recommend the Nexus line to people specifically because we thought Google would give out good long term updates. . . now, it's seeming a little pointless since everyone will stop at 18 months . . . Then it's only a matter if you want a skin or not on your device, thus Nexus, IMHO, just dropped in recommendation to others.

      • Andy Stetson

        The only people i recommend nexus devices to are like minded individuals that enjoy rooting and crack flashing. Non power users though, i point them to the other flagship phones of the moment, whichever is best in class at the time.

        • NeedName

          I point anyone that wants a good Android experience and is OK with an unlocked device, but I guess there's no point any longer.

          Nexus devices, IMHO, have generally performed better over their life than OEM devices of similar age and were less of a hassle, thus my recommendation. But now I have to tell friends and family, don't expect anything after 18 months because Google and their "partners" agreed on end of life for devices. Therefore, while I dislike apple & MS I'll have to throw them back into the mix.

          In other words, I don't have a single Android device I can point to and tell people, yeah, this one will get fast updates and won't be an overly skinned laggy POS for as long as you want to keep it, within reason (at least two years).

          So, My rec will go something like this from now on:
          Go play with everything and pick whatever you like for whatever reason you like, because it's all pretty much the same BS any way you look at it.

      • http://www.traskmind.com Trask Trojanek

        Seriously? How long should they continue upgrading their old phones then? There has to be a line somewhere, and Google has always said where that line is. Stop acting like this came out of left field or that your phone is suddenly broken because it isn't getting an update.

        • h4rr4r

          At least 2 years, more like 3. Standard contracts are 2 years. The other big smartphone player updates their devices for 3 years.

          • NeedName

            THIS!

        • NeedName

          Google only stated that their hardware partners agreed to do at least 18 months. . . NEVER that anyone should stop at 18 month, nor that they were stopping at 18 months. This is the first time that they've clearly stated that they are NOT updating due to age of device — previous devices had hardware conflicts.

          Don't be an apologist for a bad policy!

        • NeedName

          OH. . . btw, you show me on the sales page for the Nexus 5 where it states ONLY 18 months of updates!

  • Knef

    I just complained in the feedback field of that support page: «unclear information: traditionally doesn't really mean anything».

  • oimeunomethom

    To say that "Android 4.4 for all", then say that the Galaxy Nexus will not receive the update? It is at least ridiculous.

    • Panaka

      Did you seriously not read the second to last sentence of the first paragraph? TI is out of the mobile business and thus they do not make drivers for their older chipsets anymore. So Google can't officially launch 4.4 on the Gnex because they need the drivers which don't exist.

      • pfmiller

        Please, the drivers exist. What do you think the GN is currently using? That's no reason for no update.

        • Arthur Dent

          And you know those drivers work 100% flawless in the new Linux kernel version in KitKat?

          • pfmiller

            Google pretty much never changes the kernel version from the one a phone ships with. If the kernel worked with the drivers before there's no reason it should stop.

        • hkklife

          The only "reasons'' for no upgrade are the usual......greed, laziness, arrogance, and more greed.

      • NeedName

        That's speculation on the OP. . . we don't anything for certain other than Google states it is due to the device's age.

        Would be great if people didn't take speculation as fact.

    • http://www.traskmind.com Trask Trojanek

      Yeah, I want my G1 upgraded too!

  • Senoy

    In XDA we trust! Hoping for Paranoid Android Kit Kat for my G-Nex :)

  • Arthur Dent

    Geez, all the people bitching need to read. Friggin nerd rage, man.

    "Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case, though it's understandable, considering the company that made the chipset for the device has since gotten out of the mobile business, Samsung seems pretty much out as a Nexus partner, and the phones themselves are getting pretty long in the tooth."

    If the SoC manufacturer and ODM are not supporting it, then what's Google going to do?

    • NeedName

      No, Google isn't updating because it is "18 months" old or older, thus they are saying we don't update devices past 18 months, and TI still makes chips, they got out of mobile. Doubtful the drivers are the issue here.

      • Arthur Dent

        I don't personally know either way. I'd go by what AP says since they seem trustworthy, and they bring up SoC and ODM support as potential issues.

      • VegasDude73

        wait didn't you just comment below to oimeunomethom and tell him drivers are the issue? LOL

        • NeedName

          No, you may want to reread. I've never said it was the drivers, no has Google. The drivers being the issue is speculation on the part of the OP.

  • TheLastAngel

    I can't wait for my Nexus 5 not to get updated in late 2015.

    • http://www.traskmind.com Trask Trojanek

      And then everyone can complain about that! Yay!

  • dSANYi

    The support was the main reason for me to buy the GNex phone. If I had knew this that time I would rather wait at least for the Nexus 4. Now Im stuck with the GNex on 4.3. Im really satisfied with it but a I feel I bit betrayed. Google I relied on you... :( My next purchase is going to be absolutely different..

    • Brayden Reesor

      They've always said 18 months is the typical upgrade window.

      • dSANYi

        I got the point but I did not know the time I bought my phone that this major update will not fall into that timeframe. The only considerable update for me was (as for a classical user - I never rooted my phone and the things like that) the 4.2 update. The 4.3 just only patched the issues in the previous one - a really annoying lag etc... But in a certain rate it is my fault that I found myself in this situation You are absolutely right :)

        • Brayden Reesor

          It's all about that researching your purchases! :D. Also, the typical saying is to purchase your phone based on what it is right now, not on speculation of what it might become.

          • dSANYi

            Thats so true.. :D I was rather speculating over the future than to rely on the facts of the present. It was a good lesson for me, though it could have been a cheaper one. :D

        • http://www.traskmind.com Trask Trojanek

          How is it Google 's fault you didn't look at the time frame your device was released?

          • dSANYi

            Suppose that I looked it up. In that case I knew when I bought the phone that the support is going to last 18 months.. And now what? Can I predict somehow for sure that how many major updates will my phone recieve? I just wanted to say that I could not feel any of the advantages of the google support.. Even one of the updates (4.2) was really annoying.. My phone was more laggy than my girlfriends Xperia U..

      • NeedName

        I'm pretty sure the "18 months" was, Google got hardware partners to agree to update their devices for AT LEAST 18 months. Nothing was stated about dropping a device, especially a Nexus, after 18 months.

        In other words, they reversed the meaning of the statement from when they first made it. Thus, if you buy a Nexus towards the end of sales you'll get 6 months software support. . . lol

  • hypodude

    can't i download Kitkat from the sdk manager?

  • Christopher Bement

    FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    I'll take a Hangouts APK in consolation, AP.

  • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

    Well, there's still XDA for everyone who wants 4.4. But yeah, dick move, Google, dick move.

    • gierso

      the aging is not the problem but for the lack of current development of TI OMAP to create the necessary code to compile the kernel. that is something google does not create, nor they get a data sheet to create their own, usually SoC developer is the one to blame here, as TI is the one who dropped dev. on the TI OMAP devices no so long ago,,

      so no more source code,

      its like trying to program in machine code, with only artistic education, and without knowing what every bit of the SoC does you just cant do it without a lenghty trial and error code creation and by learning your self

      so even the CUSTOM rom community is gonna have a hard time creating this from scratch...

      unless TI releases a complete datasheet of how every part of the OMAP work... (unlikely)

      so they will navigate blind there,

      • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

        Oh FFS, how many times will someone come up with this "TI OMAP" agrument?
        Where did you even get this information aside from this news post?

        • gierso

          last year, TI stated their defeat on the mobile arena

          a friend of mine used to work at TI OMAP facilities (some parts outsourced in MEXICO) and when this happened she just changed jobs to qualcomm, as the Mexico division was closed and/or shifted into other things

          and im am also electronic Engineer, so i kind of know how awful would be to not have a data sheet, when you want to program a microprocessor without knowing how it works,

          and companies usualy release binaries precompiled for especific parts of the hardware controled by the SoC

          so they dont have to give away their secrets for as long as they can

          (see the nexus binary page) and http://androidandme.com/2012/09/news/texas-instruments-to-exit-omap-from-smartphones-and-tablets/

          im certain the ROM community will try their best and succeed eventualy into having a perfect 4.4
          but im certain it will take time..

          • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

            Don't you think that if this is true, then Google should've never been able to release 4.3 for GNex?

  • Cory Wilson

    Way to screw over everyone who paid $350-$400 a little over a year ago. Even apple updates their stuff longer than 2 years!

    • NeedName

      They are making it really hard for me not to recommend the iphone to friends and family that want a simple good experience with long term support. . . .and I really dislike apple. I cannot in good conscience send anyone to an Android OEM these days because you have no idea how that device will go long term.

    • http://www.traskmind.com Trask Trojanek

      Oh, your Gnex suddenly stopped working because it isn't getting the upgrade to 4.4?
      Moron.

      • Cory Wilson

        I have a nexus 4 moron, but I have several friends who were looking forward to this update. Now go to hell

  • SetiroN

    I'm seriously considering to cancel my N5 order because of this.

    • NeedName

      the Note 3 fits me better but I wanted the "nexus experience" and updates but now, like you. . . f' it.

    • http://www.traskmind.com Trask Trojanek

      Company not upgrading a 1.5 year old product, therefore, I cancel my order for their new product. That's some logic for ya.

      • h4rr4r

        Phone contracts are for 2 years, updates should go out for at least that long.

      • gierso

        more like 1.9

  • The_Chlero

    Well, this shows hows actually Google sucks. This was supposed to lower the fragmentation in Android devices, but GNex which has a 2 core processor and 1 GB RAM (the same as many mid-range phones released these days) will not be receiving the update just get me upset, too much.

    Because of this, I'm cancelling my Nexus 5 preorders. I preordered in the online Store, so all of you wanting a Nexus 5, hurry up and check the online store and grab the mine.

    • Crispin Swickard

      Kinda fits into their whole 18 month update cycle almost to the T though. I had a feeling this would happen so It was one of the reasons I was intending to go to the N5 in the first place.

      It is strange of course if 4.4 is going to help with lower end devices, but I would assume they have some specific reasons not to upgrade it. Also like otherwise mentioned there are bound to be custom ROMs about to help the situation.

    • gierso

      the aging is not the problem but for the lack of current development of TI OMAP to create the necessary code to compile the kernel. that is something google does not create, nor they get a data sheet to create their own, usually SoC developer is the one to blame here, as TI is the one who dropped dev. on the TI OMAP devices no so long ago,,

      so no more source code,

      its like trying to program in machine code, with only artistic education, and without knowing what every bit of the SoC does you just cant do it without a lenghty trial and error code creation and by learning your self

      so even the CUSTOM rom community is gonna have a hardway creating this from scratch...

      unless TI releases a complete datasheet of how every part of the OMAP work... (unlikely)

      so they will navigate blind there,

  • TSON1

    HAPPY #HOLOWEEN

    • Crispin Swickard

      #FF8800, #000000

  • David Li

    the gnex is 2 years old, people with it who are unwilling to root should upgrade to the new nexus anyhow, that said there is nothing wrong with 4.3

    • http://www.traskmind.com Trask Trojanek

      Yes. This. A thousand times. This. People are acting like the Gnex suddenly stopped working because it isn't getting upgraded.

      • dSANYi

        Many of us just wont upgrade our phones because of an update. We thought we would receive 4.4. Is it so hard to understand? How many people complained about the phone? :S We just complained about the update..

    • h4rr4r

      Too bad we never got 4.3.
      The Galaxy Nexus was first released on VZW who still has not released a 4.3 upgrade.

      • David Li

        there's always cyanogenmod, I suggest everyone ditch cdma carriers if possible

        • h4rr4r

          I will soon go to t-mobile. I was planning on getting a Nexus 5, but if they won't even support a phone for 24 measly months I am not sure I should bother.

          • Tiago Azevedo

            Everybody knows there is only a 18 months support commitment on Android! Anything ahead of that is pure luck.

      • Tiago Azevedo

        Don't say "we" as in "all Galaxy Nexus owners"! I've a Galaxy Nexus rocking 4.3 stock. Not all Galaxy Nexus are frozen!

        • h4rr4r

          Read the rest of my post. Galaxy Nexus on Verizon.

          • Tiago Azevedo

            But he was talking about the international Galaxy Nexus and you came talking about your's not being updated! Don't flame or blame Google if your carrier is such a shit!

          • h4rr4r

            If the carrier does not do updates that is google's fault. They should have never offered the phone on that carrier without a contract that detailed how updates are done. Apple gets updates on every phone on every carrier at the same time. Google could do the same thing for its Nexus line.

  • ButcherChop

    I bought my Nexus 5 an hour ago. I was tired of feeling so basic with my 2-year old Galaxy Nexus.

  • Zach Mauch

    I have a feeling this is more to do with the CDMA variant than with the work required to maintain the device.

  • Artur

    I cant understand google... they make money with apps, why would they dont want to update a phone? Because, its possible, since that Cyanogen will update GNex to 4.4... Thats one thing that Google needs to learn with the iOS...

    • Crispin Swickard

      I have an iPod touch that was still being sold directly by apple until January of last year, and it was not eligible for upgrade to iOS 7. I know first hand that iOS is far from perfect. I am already seeing apps that I can't update on it due to them being updated to work w/ iOS. Apple/iOS updates are far from being perfect even though they don't do staged roll out updates.

  • sQueezedhe

    Thank goodness for Play Services... but i guess i'll finally start flashing..

  • BRNSMRF

    Shut up Galaxy Nexus whiners. Your phone is dated. Support android device progression

    • Jesse Landin

      The sole reason I bought a Galaxy Nexus and not ANY other phone was for the support. It makes me sad that Apple is willing to support older devices with much more complex updates than Google is willing to with a simple .1 upgrade.

      • BRNSMRF

        The same reason I bought the Nexus 4. But I don't expect to keep a phone beyond 2 years.

      • Brad

        Apple's iOS updates are piecemeal and not full upgrades... Besides - this isn't a simple .1 upgrade...

    • dSANYi

      Land me some money and I am going to support them for sure. :D

    • h4rr4r

      How about you shutup.
      Us VZW Galaxy Nexus folks, the first Galaxy Nexus folks never even got a 4.3 upgrade, so this is just more of a kick in the teeth.

      • ChristianMcC

        Sprint is getting it in rollout, so you will too, probably. Though, I'd say it's not really Google's fault for the delays..

        • h4rr4r

          It is their fault. They could have negotiated a better contract or not offered the phone on verizon. Either would be better for me.

      • BRNSMRF

        That's your fault for having expectations other than broad coverage from Verizon

        • h4rr4r

          Sorry I am not a fortune teller, but the thing was sold as a Nexus so I expected better.

          Google could always post the factory images and let us flash them, but they don't even do that.

        • NeedName

          What a douche you are. . .. making apple fans look classy and non-apologetic. . .

  • gierso

    i think that aging of the phone, is not the problem but for the lack of current development of TI OMAP to create the necessary code to compile the kernel. that is something google does not create, nor they get a data sheet to create their own, usually SoC developer is the one to blame here, as TI is the one who dropped dev. on the TI OMAP devices no so long ago,,
    so no more source code,

    its like trying to program in machine code, with only artistic education, and without knowing what every bit of the SoC does you just cant do it without a lenghty trial and error code creation and by learning your self

    so even the CUSTOM rom community is gonna have a hard time creating this from scratch...

    unless TI releases a complete datasheet of how every part of the OMAP work... (unlikely)

    so they will navigate blind there,

    • Cory Wilson

      I don't think that's the case. My wife has a nook color, and it has an omap3 and I have cm10.2 running stable on it. A bit slow because of the age but it works

      • gierso

        good point..
        i remember vaguely that the OMAP3 spec sheet and/or source code was available due to coinciding to some development boards, but i think the OMAP4 was more restricted, or less coincident with Dev Boards. so a little bit harder to code.. (dont take my word as im trying to remember this stuff) or via trial and error they figured out the Processor specs :) i do still have the nook color and a tegra Gtablet. and when they jumped to 4.0+ they had a hard time figuring out how to create stable ROMS for a while

        and then both communities started to have more and more developers and by crowd sourcing they got to infer how most of the SoC worked,

        the GTABLET i think still doesnt have a fix for the camera (havent checked lately to be honest) module which works ok in CM7 but everything else started to get Snappy!!!

        • Cory Wilson

          It seems I'm wrong actually. Google replied to a verge article saying it's too much work to get drivers because of ti leaving the business. Oh well, xda is already building Roms, their answer? Build it on an existing kernel!

          • gierso

            very true but im assuring you that they (XDA) will keep looking into ways to recreate the kernel more suitable for the new OS and as you said relay on older kernels for getting it to work.
            one has to love XDA for loving development so much :)

  • Shawn T

    There's something called Cyanogenmod you know!

  • Cael

    Its OMAP's fault!

    • gierso

      i think so too
      Blame TI
      they are also the reason the droid 3 never got ICS :@

    • NeedName

      As far as we all know TI still supports their OMAP chips. The OMAP 4 was in many devices, thus doubtful TI will turn their backs.

      Secondly, OMAP support is written into the Linux kernel from what people are stating,

      Therefore, we don't know that it's the drivers. We do know Google is clearly stating that they will discontinue support for devices after 18 months, 6 months after end of sales.

      • Cael

        Provide proof that TI still supports omap4460 who was released in 2011. Provide proof of a phone/tablet or google glass that runs any omap thats going to be updated past 4.3.
        BlacKberry couldn't update their tablet because of it, no ti support. Kindle fire HD won't get Any "fire o.s" based off of 4.4. Og RAZR or any moto phone with omap is done being updated. Galaxy s2 stopped with jelly bean.

      • Cael

        The Verge: Google also notes that the Galaxy Nexus uses a chip made by Texas Instruments — a company that's no longer actively developing smartphone chips. So it could be that trying to get everything in 4.4 working on that chipset would have been fairly burdensome.

        Engadget: There's still no official word on why this is the case, but sources close to the company have pointed the finger at a different hardware issue on the Galaxy Nexus: its Texas Instruments-built chipset. The company is out of the mobile business and as such isn't in a great position to give the support necessary for continuing OS upgrades -- presumably some of those 1,700 employees let go in the shift away from mobile could have helped. Now we'll have to see if the community can pick up where the corporations left off or if this is the end of the road for the Gnex and its other OMAP-based kin like last year's Kindle Fire HD, Nook HD and Droid Bionic.

  • paradox460

    Fuck Google. Making a CDMA phone that works with sprint, but not only ignoring the Verizon customers, but actively saying "Fuck you" to them. This update should be titled "android for all, unless you have an older nexus, then fuck off"

    • h4rr4r

      Verizon won't let google update phones, why would they want to deal with that?
      The Galaxy Nexus is still on 4.2.2. Why would they want that again?

  • Cory Wilson

    Looks like I'm going to have to teach a lot of friends with gnexes how to unlock, root, and install aosp

  • Testraindrop

    Those guys still have custom roms, shouldn't take long as it is a Nexus device :)

  • Brandon Hoffman

    They created a petition to get the galaxy nexus on android 4.4 https://www.change.org/petitions/google-update-the-galaxy-nexus-with-android-4-4-kitkat#share

  • Jon Bonachon
  • SickoPsycho

    I was running 4.3 on my gnex (god damned Verizon Gnex at that) before it was released on pretty much any other phone. They release the source code to AOSP and ROMs get put together very quickly. Seeing as how the source has already been upped to the repos I would be very surprised if there wasnt a 4.4 ROM available for the GNEX within the next few days. Unless you're gonna wait for CM, which will take quite a bit longer. =) Daily driver ROMS might be a few weeks to months in waiting but I have never been one to complain about a few bugs when I'm running bleeding edge software. =)

  • The_Chlero

    To people arguing that companies are not CHARITY by supporting a device forever:

    Nobody said anything about charity. This is about a software update can be done without major issue in a perfectly capable phone. Google just said "NO!" to GNex, which is against the approach about this update which claims that will "lower fragmentation by bringing performance to devices with low specs and RAM as low as 512mb".

    GNex has Dual Core processor and 1 GB ram, which is what many mid-range phones ships today.

    I dont hate Apple, but I dislike their closed garden, but I give them the upper hand, because that walled garden allow them to update their 24 or 36 months old devices.

    Google disappointed me, because this is not a Big Updated like Gingebread 2.3 to ICS 4.0 which is a major improvement. This is just an incremental update, in the same vein that 4.0 to 4.1 which even benefits devices.

    In short I will be canceling my Nexus 5 preorder (which I have done already 2 hours ago), then I will think twice or thrice before buying smartphones, and who knows, maybe start eating some Apples, they are starting to look tasty.

  • Ed

    If KitKat works with lower specs, why isn't Google updating the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus to 4.4?? That would have been an amazing statement if they did - especially the Nexus S

  • Morten Ulveseth

    Wow, what a huge disappointment. Im strugling with memory issues on my Gnex and this update would have been a huge help.

  • Madhu

    Fear is will nexus 4 not the next update.

    • Madhu

      Fear is nexus 4 not getting the next update.

      • Björn Lundén

        It's a Qualcomm-based device so even if it doesn't there will hopefully be code on CAF that can be adapted for it.

  • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

    CyanogenMOD anyone? ;)

  • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

    I'm VERY aware of just how SLOW my GNex is compared to my quad core Note II, which will probably never see 4.4 either before I lose patience... NO MORE SAMSUNG ANDROID HANDSETS FOR ME... Sammy just isn't playing nice with AOSP :(

    • gargamel

      I hope that you are joking. My Gnex is not slow (however I don't play games), and it runs the basic apps (mail, whtsapp, viber, etc) as fast as the N4...

  • Jon moonbeamsyndicate

    Did anyone ELSE with a GNex get the urge to celebrate Death today? Outside of Mexico, I mean?

  • Galaxy Nexus

    Fuck you, Google.

  • F

    On behalf of the GNex.....
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    FUCK YOU, GOOGLE.

  • Aditya Vohra

    The updates was one of the major reasons why I bought Nexus 4. its now possible for me to use the same phone for 2-3 years without getting bored if it. Pretty good device and has everything I require. Now its time for having a Kit-Kat.. Hurrraaahhhhh

  • sggodsell

    How can Google support hardware when the manufacturer doesn't support its own hardware. Also not to worry rest assured the Ga look axy Nexus will be getting the update, just not from the official channel. Thank god for AOSP.

  • Mufasa

    kk i was going to buy a nexus7.

    now it's time to try an iPad

  • jeff
  • Kharl Martin

    So by that logic the nexus 4 will stop receiving updates come this time next year even though it will be able to handle it.

  • Seriously NotHappy

    "long in the tooth"???? seriously??? pay decent money for a Google Nexus to stay pure to Google Android, and Google says "GET LOST" after less than 18 months??? so much for customer, brand and platform loyalty... even for cellphone technology, 18 months is awfully short to abandon the product...especially with the Google name on it and the promise of "get pure Android. be the first and closest to Google." NOT HAPPY!

  • sachin goral

    I'm never gonna buy the Nexus 5 just because Google forces us to do so by not letting us taste the kitkat !
    -proud Galaxy Nexus owner

    Sign this Official petition and let's see whether that makes Google change their mind or let them be like Apple :

    https://www.change.org/petitions/google-update-the-galaxy-nexus-with-android-4-4-kitkat

  • drew

    Funny how people are complaining about the nexus 4 and how bad it is compared to the nexus 5 I still have my nexus 4 and not planning to upgrade soon it comes down to personal preference but if my phone can do what ever other phone does and run the things I want why upgrade every time a new phone comes out not saying the nexus 5 is a bad phone it looks great and it looks speedy but knowing my phone is still better then some of my friends phones out there its great yeah I remember when the nexus 4 came out the price was just as good and everyone was excited about the phone its gonna be the same with this one

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