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Updates don't alway meet their deadlines, and that's fine. The Android 4.2.2 Google TV update that LG promised back in May may be late, but it's here, at least for some models. This is big news for people who have invested in Google's television offering, as it bumps the platform up from a rather old Android 3.2 Honeycomb base.

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Unfortunately, some things are lost in transition. While updated Google TVs will have better mobile app compatibility thanks to Android NDK support, the Chrome browser has changed from the PC to the Android version, meaning there's no Flash support. There's no Crackle, no Hulu, and no watchESPN. But to ease the pain, there's a new Vudu application.

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Overall, the difference shouldn't be all that stark. Menus may be reorganized, but don't expect a radically different interface. The update has been spotted on some GA6400 series models, but it should roll out to more, including the G3 series, before the end of the month.

Thanks, Saurabh and Nabeel.

Bertel King, Jr.
Born and raised in the rural South, Bertel knows what it's like to live without 4G LTE - or 3G, for that matter. The only things he likes sweeter than his tea are his gadgets, and while few objects burn more than a metal phone on a summer day, he prefers them that way anyway.

  • Gary Ogden

    No plex? Uh-oh. That's not good. Any word on when they'll update it?

    • jm9843

      It can be installed from the Play Store.

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexapp.gtv

      • http://bertelking.com/ Bertel King, Jr.

        That's good to know. I've updated the post.

        • BugsBunny

          Is plex available to install for free ? I see that it's for $0.99 from that link. I didn't upgrade thinking that there'd be no plex! Also this upgrade has huge downsides. Is there a way to turn off the upgrade? It's asking me every time I turn on the TV and I fear that someone in the house might press "upgrade" by mistake and I'll lose those wonderful apps and flash support. What to do?

          • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            No, Plex is not free... Upgrading should open up the Play Store to more apps than it is now... The only thing I can suggest is wait, and see if the problems that are going on get fixed first... You will most likely lose flash for good tho, just like phones...

    • gierso

      plex is in the store :)

    • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

      Should have Plex, I've had Plex on my GoogleTV for over 2 years... With this update, you might even see XBMC, the JB update to GoogleTV is supposed to bring NDK support... This is if the dev's for XBMC want to support the platform that is...

  • xqz

    Not stark? They killed Adobe Flash support in the browser, and that's huge!

    • ddpacino

      Yes, that might suck. Greatly. Can't watch my shows and movies from those shady sites, lol.

    • http://bertelking.com/ Bertel King, Jr.

      Changes to the interface aren't stark. The loss of Flash, on the other hand, is a downer.

  • michael interbartolo

    wonder what is different with the Vudu app than the one that runs currently on the Hisense and Co-Star with honeycomb? hopefully Hisense and Vizio updates will be rolling out soon.

  • http://bjunity.org/ Bill B

    But if it's running JB, then you could install X-Scope browser and sideload the Flash apk? Just wondering...

    • http://hughisaacs2.googlepages.com/ Hugh Isaacs II

      It should be able to since the NDK is available now.

      You should even be able to sideload Firefox.

  • Nathan Borup

    Aww YEAH!

  • Chris

    Sony is slacking hard. I had a 300mb update a month ago, which ultimately ended up making it more buggy than it's prior patch... Still Honeycomb :(

    Sony = Failing miserably in this department.

  • Jeffery Keel

    I feel really bad for anyone that invested in Google TV. I was really excited for it at first but after the initial reviews came out for the Logitech Revuve, things never improved. Google TV is really a project that needs to be killed.

    • gierso

      not true things got a lot better when they got away from intel.
      now in ARM, the system is constantly updated (at least from sony devices) and there are plenty video apps in the store.
      sure the apps are very limited in quantity and quality, but. for webtv surfting and netflix it is magestic. and with constant updates, i have had no lagginess added that is a plus :)

      now with this update, i hope it brings even more apps, and oldgen console emulators. :D

    • Mr E

      I actually recently picked up a 2nd-gen Sony Google TV box and am pretty happy with it. I mainly use it as an enhanced Roku, but just two seemingly-small features make it worthwhile for me: (1) the QWERTY keyboard remote, because on-screen keyboards with a standard remote are terrible to use, and (2) HDMI pass-thru, so I never have to hunt down my TV remote to change inputs (to be fair, my cable-box remote can toggle through inputs too but still a pain).
      Overall, I'm fairly happy with it, and all the extra features of a Google TV are nice bonuses. That said, I'm eager to see if there will be any new features. I'd love to see better app availability, and gamepad support (which could turn this into something like an OUYA).

    • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

      The Logitech Revuve was garbage... My first gen Sony Blu-ray works better...

      • ddpacino

        I have a revue, an say I want to replace it within the next two weeks with another companion box. Any suggestions..? THANKS!

        • Sir_Brizz

          The Vizio Costar is pretty good.

        • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

          I like the Sony GoogleTV's... But The Costar I've heard good things about... Really, I've been waiting to see which ones get the update to JB... So I would wait to see which others will get this update...

    • Brad

      I was excited about the co-star, but chromecast really kills it... Just waiting on more apps!

    • http://hughisaacs2.googlepages.com/ Hugh Isaacs II

      This update isn't an improvement?

      It's pretty much just a TV running Android 4.2.2 now, full Android.

      I'd say this update pretty much is what Google TV should've been the whole time, the only thing Google needs to do now is provide a smoother interface and built-in Google cast support.

  • Mr E

    c'mon Sony!

  • http://www.stevenmattera.com Steven Mattera

    Can't wait to get home and install this on my 55GA7900. =D Awesome!!!

    • http://www.stevenmattera.com Steven Mattera

      Update: Came home first thing tried to update my TV. No Update. I just called LG and the representative told me the update is being rolled out slowly and I should see it any hour now. Not sure if it's timezone or location based.

      • NF

        When Honeycomb was released for my Logitech Revue, it took about a week before I got the update. You'll have to be patient I'm afraid.

  • gierso

    now i need it in my NSZGS7 device :)

    • Chris

      Feels like it's never going to happen :[

  • Mr E

    Could this be a precursor to the Google event scheduled for later today?

    • http://www.twitter.com/ninjustin ninjustin

      Like LG updating to the most recent Google TV the same day that a new version gets released? That makes no sense. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but it's not going to happen, and these two things wouldn't have anything to do with one another.

      • germaine

        Will the update be available for the LG G2 model

        • http://www.twitter.com/ninjustin ninjustin

          Yeah sure why not. BTW that wasn't even vague sarcasm.

  • Alexander Terry

    Lg, y u no 4.3?

  • j¤n Gårrëtt [5,000+]

    honeycomb!! WTF.

  • duse

    Still doesn't fix the awful interface that's basically a direct lift from phones and requires you to use the mouse pointer to get to many UI elements. It's clunky and unintuitive and this platform that I once had great excitement for just because I liked the idea of a powerful Android set-top box now offers nothing at all over a simple, cheap, and easy to use Roku. Except for Google Play content and YouTube, which can easily be done through a Chromecast. The Android version update is not enough, Google will have to totally reboot and redo this platform from scratch to get me interested again. And given Google's extreme delay in even getting a public Chromecast SDK out there for devs to release apps with, it seems they are slowly but surely completing losing the living room.

    • NF

      Your individual points make sense, but your conclusion is flawed.
      The UI is oftimes poor. Google has posted guides in an attempt to mitigate this, but it isn't easy for a phone UI to translate to a TV UI. The same has been going on for tablets. Now that GTV is on a proper release cycle, however, apps should be able to updated to support this new device while retaining the same code base (just like ICS did for phones and tablets). This is pretty much a repeat of tablets and honeycomb.

      Google Play content? What about the Google Play store? You know, the myriad of apps available? Yes, UX is an issue, but getting access to plenty of modern apps should count for something, yes?

      Chromecast has been cited for a few months as redundant compared to Google TV. They've confirmed that GTV serves a different purpose, and both projects will continue. I can imagine that they will redo this platform, however. Changing it to Android TV is one. Making it a powerful media center is another. I can imagine that games will play a prominent role. Playing a tablet game, move to a TV, sync everything. That could sell. Ouya did. (Ouya doesn't have a great UX, but Google can easily use their power to deliver a much better UI than Ouya, plus gather game developers due to the prominence of the company. Yes, they do need to reboot the platform, and they probably will.

      Google isn't "losing" the living room. When a company "loses" (I'm assuming by marketshare), their place in the market is reduced and replaced by other competitors. So, when Google is "losing", who's "winning"? Microsoft's Xbox platform is already successful, so nothing new there. Apple TV is as plain as ever; not bad, but not really a sexy device to the general public. Roku maybe, but they don't seem to have much marketshare either.

      So, the living room "battle" has barely started. Only Microsoft has a platform so far that is robust and fairly popular. Maybe we should wait and see.

  • peteo

    wonder if this will work to get flash going http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1061194

  • Klent Dee

    Good news??

  • Tom Dwenger

    Anyone capable of getting a system dump for those who want to root this thing.

    • Chuck Ringer

      i got my 4.2.2 update on my LG 47GA6400 and pulled a system dump (used adb and ran "pull /"). got as much as it would let me, but still missing a lot from the root file, let me know how i can get this to people who can do something with it, because i have no idea

      • Tom Dwenger

        Awesome you probably got the init stuff, i replied to you on g+ as what to do. To pull system you use "adb pull /system" otherwise it will try pulling everything which you won't have access to do if you not root. If you do something like "adb pull /system C:System" it will shove files in the C:System folder or if using other OS you would just use a different syntax there for where you want it to go otherwise will just dump to whatever folder you are in when you open command prompt.

  • Mehmed

    Okay... Next up we have Android 4.4 Kit Kat which should increse the performance drastically.

  • Chippah

    No one Mentions Serenity? Best Googletv app available for playing your Nas media.

    Tried to force update my g3 ga6400 but no go.

  • master94

    No Flash, time to dump my Google TV. Too bad, was really liking it, back to my Samsung SMART hub

  • RepentGoogleTV

    HBO GO, Plex, Flash support is gone.
    is this update or downgrade ???? very disappointed with google.

  • NF

    Exciting stuff. I'll have to see what performance is like from others and how robust the apps are in the store.

  • Nathan Borup

    Anyone having issues with Netflix after the update? Mine just freezes

    • Km

      I think initial setting solves the issue.

      • Nathan Borup

        Yep! it does. Thanks for the reply

    • Brenda Santos

      Yes. Netflix load with no picture.

  • Sinistar83

    Anyone play this yet? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flaregames.royalrevolt It's supposed to be one of the first games running on JB on the LG TVs

  • Ulises

    Some LG Google TV users are complaining that now Netflix is not working and that Amazon Prime won't load without flash.

    Has anyone tried installing the Netflix and Amazon-Prime app after their LG TV was updated to Jelly bean 4.2.2?

    Now I am worried!!!

    We have waited for more than a year, just to find that now Flash, Netflix and Amazon-Prime don't work anymore?

    Could be that SONY is delaying the update, because they could be trying to fix these problems?

    I am the owner Two NSZ-GS8, So I am still hoping that SONY could test and re-test, before releasing the update, and find some tricks or fixes to make these APPs work as they should...

    • Nabeel

      I updated, both Netflix and Amazon Prime are working for me without issue.

      • Jason Peltier

        How did you update it? I just searched and I cannot find Netflix on Google Play anymore.

        • blas64

          same here...netflix not showing in Google Play

    • Km

      Amazon and netflix works well after initial setting in my case.

  • BryanLM

    DirecTV Sunday Ticket and WatchESPN would be killer! I've had the 55G2 since it came out and have been disappointed in the apps available. This is exciting, hopefully devs will alter their apps to support this new update.

  • sbaselice

    Can't watch Amazon Videos at all now on my LG GA6400, that kills the Amazon app completely. Will this change or is there an update to the AMazon app? I didn't see one in Play.

    • Chippah

      You have to reset the tv to factory default after the update then Netflix and amazon video works great.

  • Adam Fazil

    its awesome. i want in it

  • blas64

    anyone else notice that network video streaming is no longer smooth? It chops up even with lightweight video files. used smartshare and also different apps. seems like local processing is now overworked or something.

  • MB

    After my Google TV updated, the web browser no longer goes to full screen. Can anyone help with this? Thanks in advance...

  • Brenda Santos

    How can i download a new flash?

  • MHK

    i want my flash support back. any idea how to uninstall the "smart tv jelly bean 4.2.2 update"?

    • Kathir

      Please help me as well. I do wanted to revert back.... Anyone

  • Sbl Fao

    Not sure what's the benefit about new version but I saw the bad things now. No flash, no basic DTV... I dont like so far.. How to rollback to original one???

    • Kathir

      Please help me as well. I do wanted to revert back....

  • Kathir

    Can anyone help how can I revert back to Android 3.2... Please help me

  • Sbl Fao

    anyway to recover flash back after updated in 55GA6400? any browser supporting flash.. ??

  • MHK

    for uninstalling on LG TV, call LG support and DEMAND them to provide you the procedure to rollback jellybean 4.2.2 update.

  • Tuan Bui

    I have LG google TV, and I have same problem with many people that is I couldn't watch movies on web. Because it did not have flash player on chrome. I really don't know why they can sell the bad products. If as they designed it, they must make sure it good to use before to sell it to consumers.

    I just bought the sony google TV box, I really like it, it is easy to use, I can watch movies on chrome, and I don't have any problem with it.

    If I knew it, I just buy cheap TV and buy google Tv box, that must better than buy the expensive Google TV (I bought more than thousand dollars)

  • NapaDude85

    I guess they fixed the update...just got it today. By the way people need to stop whining about not having flash anymore! Anybody who can afford a LG Google TV should also be able to afford a desktop or laptop, which they can then hookup to their TV....PROBLEM SOLVED!

    • phillihere

      yeah but if you bough a tv what is supposed to have streaming video and that's the way they advertised you don't have to loss that feature after you buy the tv , I just think is wrong

  • janet

    I want the old version back.. how can I go back or there's no way :(

  • Sharon Cline

    I hate this upgrade? I paid over a thousand dollars for my LG Google TV because it WAS like the desktop, flash and all; now it's useless to me.I'm thinking of filing a class action suit against the morons who thought this was a good idea. No one should have to put up with upgrades (I mean downgrades) they didn't ask for. I want to switch back but they tell me you can't....oh,but you can go out and spend another six hundred dollars on a tablet and then you can use your $1200 smart tv as a big damn mirror. Are you kidding me!

  • NapaDude85

    I understand people not liking this update but at some point apps are no longer going to support android honeycomb, so upgrading is a necessity. Regarding a lack of flash, just buy a six foot hdmi cable (which are pretty cheap), then hook up your laptop and now you got your whole computer on the TV. Problem solved. Oh by the with the new update I can now play some games that are supported in the new LG Game Changer app in 3D.....Fruit Ninja looks F**king amazing in 3D!!!!

    PS look at my sweet setup!

  • Ben

    Ever since this update, the input lag is absolutely unbearable (in game mode, yes). The sole purpose of my LG55G2 is to play PC games and now it's useless. Is there any way to undo this update?

  • Papa E

    This update from Android 3.2 Honeycomb to Android 4.2.2 is the worst I have ever seen. My LG G2 is almost worthless now. How can I get the old version back?

  • Cogra147

    Has anyone tried using Flashfox? It natively has flash built into it.

  • Mind

    LG google tv and Google both suck after the update. WiFi does not work. Cheap guys in LG and google did the buggy firware

  • Alex

    Where is full Casting ability or full access to apps like Hulu that are available to Chromecast and Nexus Player? It's been a over a year since this update, another one is due!