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Update: Vic Gundotra, Google's SVP of Engineering, had this to say after posting on Google+ about the new Voice update:

Guys, don't worry. We have massive investment in Android. I promise you will be happy soon. Don't get upset because we show some love to Google users who use iOS. There are a lot of them. And they are good people :-)

So chill out: it looks like VOIP for Voice is coming to Android sooner or later. Thanks to commenter spacekobra for the tip.

Good news, Google Voice users: the feature you've been waiting on for literally years is finally available. Bad news: it's only available on iOS. The iPhone and iPad app now allows users to make Voice Over IP calls to any number using their Google Voice number, and calls made to numbers in the US and Canada are completely free. The same international call rates are reportedly still in effect. No SIM card is necessary - calls made from the iPad or iPod Touch go through just fine.

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What's more, iOS users can now receive calls on devices with Google Voice, though the call comes in through the Hangouts app. These are features that have long been speculated for Google Voice. While it's currently an excellent SMS substitute and call forwarding service, true VOIP is still beyond its capabilities on Android and the web (though Hangouts has been encroaching on that territory). It's not clear why iOS is getting this feature first, and we have no idea when (or if) it will come to Android. However, it's reasonable to assume that updates to Google apps across the board will come with Android 4.4, so perhaps this feature isn't too far away for Android users. Some of the new and consolidated icons in the Nexus 5 leaks may hint at this.

I don't have to explain what a boon VOIP on Voice could be for users in the US and Canada (but I will anyway). If you can essentially turn Voice/Hangouts into your telephone provider, a WiFi or LTE tablet suddenly becomes a full-fledged smartphone, albeit a somewhat unconventional one. It would make it that much easier for users who are willing to stick to WiFi to kick the carriers to the curb. International users are still left out in the cold, and this is unfortunately the status quo, but it's an exciting development nonetheless. The fact that the Voice app itself has been somewhat neglected in the last year implies that some or all of its functionality might be rolled into Hangouts, a la Google Talk.

Source: Kate Cushing Google+ - thanks, Uluç Bozak and TheManii

Jeremiah Rice
Jeremiah is a US-based blogger who bought a Nexus One the day it came out and never looked back. In his spare time he watches Star Trek, cooks eggs, and completely fails to write novels.
  • Nate Porter

    weird google would do this... maybe i should hop to io... wait nevermind

    • Tim242

      Back away from the edge!

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Io. Google I/O, right? That's what you meant.

      • Matthew Plewa

        Im hoping its not io as in ios ;)

        • Guest

          Or Io the moon...

        • RainierWolfcastle

          ...

          • Matthew Plewa

            No one ever notices the winky face -.-

      • SlenderSniper

        Or Io, the moon... That could be bad... Very bad...

  • Alex

    Oh, that's sweet.

    Want this badly

    Hope they incorporate it nicely in hangouts app on android, and then get rid of Voice

    • tym0

      That news is actually about hangouts, not voice so i doubt they would do it on ios but not on android.

  • mgamerz

    I'm on the tmo $30 a month plan. I use GrooveIP with my gnex and people say i sound like crap no matter my settings. Hopefully this fixes it and it can handle incoming calls to my google voice number properly (not 2 ringings at a time)

    • Bob G

      I hope this means we can finally say goodbye to GrooveIP.

    • lensgrabber

      Give Vonage a shot. Wife is in Europe and she called me via Vonage (free) and sounded pretty good most of the time. When she is back in CO she always uses Vonage when calling long distance or when those 100 minutes start to run out. (too cheap to pay the 10 cents a minute :) )

    • Wyatt Neal

      I feel like the voice quality on hangouts has been pretty good and I'm betting that they've probably leveraged that backend to make this possible.

    • UncleFan

      If you have a Nexus phone, why don't you just use the SIP client that's already built into stock Android? It works great! I use Voip.ms as my voip provider and it's extremely cheap.

      • mgamerz

        Cause I don't want to pay for service. That's the whole point.

        • UncleFan

          I see. I've only spent about $5 per YEAR on voip because the minutes are so cheap, but if you can't handle that, something like GrooveIP is the way to go I guess.

  • bunnybash

    Can never understand why on earth Google won't release Voice internationally. It can't be that hard to set up!!

    • dhruva

      regulations..i remember they were about to release in india, but the rules didnt allow, or they were blocked by carriers there.

    • ins0mn1a

      i think the major reason is the pricing model. in the us a call to a cell phone is payed by both parties 50-50, so you can easily put some service between them, say call forwarding, and this changes nothing in terms of "who pays for what". elsewhere, the caller pays for the entire call, so if you want your calls forwarded to a cell phone, you have to pay for it. basically, people would need to pay to receive calls. in the us this is already the norm, but in most of the rest of the world this is unheard of.

      now with voip, one would simply be paying for data, which people would be much more willing to do, so international release is starting to make much more sense.

      • Roh_Mish

        What? In US you pay to receive calls???

        • ins0mn1a

          on mobile, yes. you pay for minutes, regardless of who initiated the call. when i moved to the us i was completely shocked by this, and i shouted many good european wtf's ;). but after a while (a couple of years, really) i got used to it. but even more, i slowly came to realize that this is actually a good model, because this way you can easily put internet and all the innovation in the world between the two parties in conversation. i mean, why do you think one can place free calls from google hangouts to any us mobile and landline phone, from anywhere in the world? there are many things in the us telecommunications system that i just can't get used to (e.g. cdma phones, wtf?), but i am very happy to pay for my received calls. life is sometimes strange that way ;).

          • dextersgenius

            I assume there would also be a large demand for apps that automatically blacklist unknown numbers and such? :P

            Also, what happens if the call doesn't connect and goes to your voicemail, do you still get charged for it?

          • ins0mn1a

            you don't get charged for voicemail (you might be charged when you call to listen to it, which is just another reason to get google voice that delivers your voicemail mp3s to your inbox). as for the unwanted calls, this is not as big of a problem as one might expect. telemarketers usually stay away from cellphones, though not always.
            the thing is that almost any reasonable monthly plan will include at least hundreds of minutes, so you will not be that concerned with wasting a few of them. the system encourages heavy usage, there are very few options for those that want to use the service in a frugal way. most often people just get a plan with lots of minutes and ditch the landline, so at least they don't get two phone bills.

        • darkNiGHTS

          It's so stupid how people pretend to be surprised and outraged at this every time. An incoming call is using your phone so, other country's policies aside, why is it surprising you are paying for the usage? That's like saying if someone sends you a Youtube video you shouldn't have to pay for the data.

          • Roh_Mish

            But that is not how people have their system in other countries. In my country, you don't pay for any incoming calls weather in home network or on roaming, unless and until your plan specifies a fixed charge for all incoming calls while roaming or a fixed full day charge (it gets charged in bill if you pick up a call while roaming once a day. if no calls, you don't pay for that day. This is very rare and not many people know abut such plans) I personally pay 10p/Min for outgoing calls and no incoming charges whatsoever. 100p=Rs1. $1~Rs.55-56. I get 600 Mins free. so this charges apply after that.

          • darkNiGHTS

            That doesn't address my question at all, I said how does it make sense? I know other countries don't charge for incoming call. That doesn't mean it's logical.

  • William Peterson

    Come on Google. Don't leave us in the cold! Great to see some movement with this app though.

  • lensgrabber

    I would say this is a 4.4 feature but then that would totally overlook Google using individual app updates in the Play Store to give us new features. If it is a KitKat feature then maybe it's tied to the OS more than on IOS. I'm really shocked they are giving this feature out to IOS first unless Android is getting more than just a on-the-surface app.

    • squiddy20

      Well, if I recall correctly, iOS did get the revamped Maps update first, maybe even a Search update or two as well.

    • mgamerz

      Probably has to do with the fact that you have to integrate with the system so you dont get 2 incoming call notifications or something. Likely has to do with the SMS single app thing so hangouts can handle it exclusively.

  • spacekobra

    Vic Gundotra says "Guys, don't worry. We have massive investment in Android. I promise you will be happy soon. Don't get upset because we show some love to Google users who use iOS. There are a lot of them. And they are good people :-)"

    https://plus.google.com/+VicGundotra/posts/5QJY1dQdF6D

    So yeah... I'm willing to wait.

    • NinoBr0wn

      Well that was a pretty cool statement.

      • Cristi

        It's not cool is cold.

    • Wyatt Neal

      Yea, I'm thinking that with some of the screen shots for the 4.4 stuff on the N5 press release images, we can hope (but maybe that's too much at the moment) that Google is taking and finally smashing the Voice+SMS/Messaging+Hangouts all into one for Android. Likely that would take a Google Play Services update ... but it would be bitching and I would drop my minutes like a bad habit if I could go all Hangouts level of voice quality.

    • http://www.feirox.com/ ankHD

      Wait: +1

    • Ivan Martinez

      They did the same thing with a Google+ update a while back. It makes sense that they would use iOS as a testing ground before rolling out the stable feature to Android. Don't forget, Android is the more widely adopted system. I'm sure Google would rather iron out the kinks in iOS before officially porting over to Android to ensure a stable app.

      Granted, I could be entirely wrong and Mountain View now loves iOS more than Android...

      • http://www.LOVEanon.org/ Michael Oghia (Ogie)

        I think it's a classic case of Google saving the best for Android. Yes, now iOS has the feature for whatever reason, but I can only hope that in the coming weeks, our update will be even better and more comprehensive. Then again, perhaps that's just wishful thinking. But I'm hopeful!

    • Bob

      I have a feeling that voice will be more embedded into Android, hence the lack of updates. I think VOIP dialing on Android vs iPhone will be different, and will actually use the native dialer.

    • Rice30

      He is laying. Apple pays Google a truck of money to keep its services better than in Android.

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  • Ryuuie

    But the Oct 24th article you linked to specifically states that there won't be any Android or Nexus news mentioned. So it's looking like it's for the mainstream press and not for Android-based blogs for Google Play information and not Hangouts or the like.

    • Jeremiah Rice

      Eh, you're right. I'll take out the statement.

  • Stephen McGann

    Could this be foreshadowing for google releasing the nexus 5 as a tablet instead of a phone?!?! (and all the amazing data rates that apply as a result)

    • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

      Ooooooo that is a great idea!

    • NinoBr0wn

      I don't even understand.

      • Stephen McGann

        If you buy a Nexus 7 LTE and get a standard data plan from ATT you pay about 25$ a Month. That's because it's considered a tablet so you don't have to but a phone line ect..., but to make phone calls you have to use Google Voice + Groove IP. if you put a nexus 4 on ATT you'll pay closer to 80-90$ a month because it's a phone. So if google were to release a Nexus 5 as a tablet, and updated Hangouts to support VOIP without groove IP, it would be incredibly cheap to own. So cheap it would be like an industry wrecking ball.

        • PhineasJW

          You will buy the Nexus 5 off-contract any way, so it doesn't need a tablet designation.

          You'll be able to pick AT&T or T-Mobile and just buy a data plan, if this is true.

        • NinoBr0wn

          The Nexus 7 isn't considered a tablet, it is a tablet. I don't understand why you would imagine the Nexus 5, a phone, would ever be "releasing as a tablet." It's not a tablet, and nobody would mistake it for one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

    Oh man I've been waiting for this since Voice was in beta. I'd love to stick it to the carriers and never buy minutes or texts again.

    Can't wait til the update comes to my Z Ultra!

  • lensgrabber

    Here is what I want.. 4.4 to be on the Moto X within weeks of launch, SMS in hangouts using my gvoice number as default, hangouts phone calls using my gvoice as default, world peace. Not necessarily in any order. Google, is that too much to ask? Oh yeah.. and the Nexus 5 to launch this weekend. :)

  • Pizza_Dude

    Groove IP already does this.

    • selonmoi

      Terribly.

      • Pizza_Dude

        Works good for me.

        • selonmoi

          I guess you're super lucky or super skilled. :-)

          Whenever I've tried it, the person on the other end can barely hear me.

          And that's over a good home internet connection.

          • Matthew Merrick

            Honestly has more to do with your device's mic.

          • Primalxconvoy

            Have you tried "line" or "tango"?

  • david coffey

    This makes no God damn sense.

  • Roger Tomsin

    It would be nice to stick it to the carriers, but unfortunately Wifi is in nowhere near a ubiquitous state, but if enough people put a hurt on carriers through lost business, they could be regulated once again to house phone status with their mobile devices. For now, the carriers are still very much a necessary evil.

  • http://www.bordersweather.co.uk/ Andy J

    While it's of no use to me in the UK (yet....) it must be nice for you US folks to see it confirmed by Vic himself in the comments of the post that 1) He is a heavy Google Voice user, 2) it's going nowhere and 3) "we have big plans for Google Voice" https://plus.google.com/+VicGundotra/posts/5QJY1dQdF6D

    • dhruva

      if ever this expands, uk always gets preference.

  • Anthony

    Im not upset they show love to ios users. I am upset they show love to them first! How can you release this on ios first and not android?? Really?!? What the hell?

    • Thomas’

      Because the Android team of Hangouts had to work on SMS integration first, so the iOS one could already play with Voice.

      • NexusPhan

        That and because apple controls the app update process. It takes a few weeks for their app to be reviewed and approved. If Google wants to make sure hangouts is updated for ios and android around the same time they have to play it safe and submit the app to apple well in advance.

        • Thomas’

          Not really "a few weeks".

        • http://www.stevenmattera.com Steven Mattera

          You can set a release date and it will be reviewed then held from going live until that date. BTW.

          • NexusPhan

            Really? Oh, no excuse then. Taking some of the fun away from the KitKat press conference. Boo. Hiss.

          • http://www.stevenmattera.com Steven Mattera

            I think what is going to happen is that KitKat is going to be released on the 24th. The Google Voice app was not updated on Android because the Google Voice app is being replaced by a Google Experience Phone Dialer on the Play Store. The Phone Dialer will now have Google Voice built in.

          • NexusPhan

            I'm realizing that we really don't know anything about KitKat. I'm getting pumped for this announcement. Google may surprise us all. Even if it's only little things like this. It makes a big difference overall.

    • Xikarra

      Maybe because there're two different teams working on two different platforms and not working on the same things at the same time.

    • KChristainsen

      relax bro.

    • evan

      I like your statement also Google is starting to piss me off If apple could shut down Google they would and these assh**** at Google keep helping them. I'm starting to feel like apple cares more about there product and people and googles really the bad guy and they care about the$$$$$$$

  • PhineasJW

    This could change everything.

    I couldn't care less that they released it first for iOS -- I just find it puzzling as a strategic decision.

    - It tipped their hand for Kit Kat, removing an awesome surprise
    - And it required them to go into "damage control" mode.

    Bizarre decision, when they could have just held the iOS app another week...

    • Terry

      I assume the use of hangout is a good bit lower on iOS than on android. Maybe this is a good way to check server load/response before all the android users get on the system. Just thinking out loud.

    • NexusPhan

      Doesn't work that way. Apple reviews and approves the updates. Google submitted and whenever Apple feels like getting around to reviewing and approving the app and then pushing it out live is when ios users will see it. It's a real mess. If google wants to have both apps updated around the same time, they have to play it safe and submit it to apple way before the android app goes live. They just happened to be off a little this time.

      • Jeffrey Smith

        From Apple documentation: "Use iTunes Connect to set a date when the app is to be released to the
        App Store. For example, you can choose a date that immediately releases
        the app to the App Store after it is approved, or you can set a future
        date. Using a later release date allows you to arrange other marketing
        activities around the launch of the app."

  • Chronus719

    So will this work if I have a Japanese IP? I'm an American working in Japan, and I use Google Voice a lot. It would be nice if I could get an easier way to call people back at home without worrying over Skype credits and what not.

    • hp420

      simply put, no. but there are ways around this. for example, using a US proxy to sign up would work, or ask a friend stateside to do it for you....then, i can only assume, it should work on wifi, at least.

    • Primalxconvoy

      Nope I can't use it in Japan and neither can my American friends who visit.

  • Owen Finn

    CANADA.

  • SpaceCadet

    I have my phone simultaneously ring my cell and my google voice number.
    Now I can answer my phone on my notebook without running for the phone.
    Gotta love it.

    Now if Google Voice only worked with Canadian numbers. Would be awesome.

    • Primalxconvoy

      If only it worked outside the US, you mean. Google voice is largely irrelevant outside America.

      • Christian Cebrian

        Except when you live outside (mexico in my case) and still use it to call for free to the US and very cheap to your own country (cheaper than the carrier)

  • hp420

    fuck you iOS!!! i hate you so much!!!

  • https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=iWizard Bikram Agarwal

    So, when this comes to Android, will the "use Google voice to make calls" be truly free? i.e. when I make a local call from my phone using GV, it won't cost me carrier minutes? How about international calls? (i.e. GV will charge it's cost; but will it cost me carrier minutes too?)

    • Primalxconvoy

      You will still have to "pay" via your data plan allowance.

      • https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=iWizard Bikram Agarwal

        Data is fine. I have 4GB in my plan but hardly use 1GB. It won't cost me minutes, right?

        • Primalxconvoy

          That's correct, unless your carrier decides to artificially state that voip over 3g is the same as a phone call (it isn't).

          Voip is just sound or video streaming data, sent live via our mic to another user. It's similar to streaming video or music via YouTube or Pandora but this time it's interactive and live.

  • Jean-Francois Bélanger

    This update is a bit weird to me. I understand the ios and Apple in general is a good source of revenue for Google (both directly and indirectly), but as another user pointed out I'm not sure about the timing. Waiting just after the release of kit kat to push this to ios would have made more sense. You do not alienate your fan base, and you still deliver the new product to ios users. Perceptions are very important, and doing so just reduces the credibility of Google's commitment to Android. It's not catastrophic but it's irritating. I mean, unless Google is using the old Microsoft testing strategy and is using ios users as testers for new features that may contain a fair amount of bugs...

  • Sir_Brizz

    One thing to consider here is that Google can't control App Store release timelines. They seem to be mitigating deadlines by releasing early on iOS, getting the app out to people and then releasing on Android shortly after. It makes a good deal of sense to take this approach since they can do some load testing and then release on Android whenever they feel like it.

    • Dissidence

      This is actually an incredibly valid point that I didn't consider. Thanks.

  • WHO?

    This is not exciting. We have 20 apps that do Google voice. Need emoji and MMS to be excited. I use sprint so google voice is already intergrated and I can use any app. Just another messaging app is pointless unless I can finally do multimedia.

  • http://wtuthink.wordpress.com/ wtuthink

    What the hell? How can you release this on ios first and not android?? Really?!?

  • ins0mn1a

    people are pissed about the ios-first release, and seem to be missing the point about how big a deal this is. voip calls, practically built-in! suddenly the extortion the carriers are getting away with with their per-minute pricing is starting to lose ground, and the future of telecommunications is starting to look a bit brighter. it's a giant leap forward for everyone, and if hipsters and grandmas are the first to get it, i don't mind ;).

    • Primalxconvoy

      Except that "unlimited" data plans are fixed to, say, 7 gigs, so voip calls, even now, aren't a viable option for some/many users via 3/4g.

      • hp420

        i would like to challenge you to use 7gb of data for voip....seriously, i think you don't realize how far that would go! granted, not all 7gb would be for voip. you coukd use it for other things and run out that way, but this is where being responsible with your data (or just finding a local hotspot) comes into play.

        • Primalxconvoy

          I Maced out my data once and it was due to me using voip and video calls on my lte connection as I forgot to switch on the Wifi.

          Anyway, although using 7 gigs purely for voip calls may seem impossible, combined with streaming video and music, downloads, etc; I think it could be easier to max out than you may think.

          Also, free Wifi is hard to come by on countries with poor online superstructures (like Japan, where I live).

          • ins0mn1a

            to say that you maxed out your data due to voip and video calls is like saying that a toyota prius and a boeing 747 together consume a lot of fuel.

          • Primalxconvoy

            I understand your point but my point is, regardless of how careful we are, using voip and non sms messaging services isn't viable enough to fully replace sms and phone calls just yet on the existing carrier contacts as there is a danger that their use, combined with the other uses of smartphones, could max out a user's data allowance, if all done on a 3g or equivilent network.

          • 8Charlie

            Actual minutes and smses aren't viable for most people either because in most countries they're not unlimiyed. When they are, often times there's still a fair-use policy. With 7GB you'd probably be able to call more than the unlimited plans' FUP would allow.

      • ins0mn1a

        7GB will allow you roughly 10000 minutes of voip conversation. that seems pretty viable to me. my point is that in almost all imaginable use cases voip minutes are much cheaper. and even if the monthly bill remains the same, i would rather pay for extra data that i can use for anything than for minutes.

        • Primalxconvoy

          Great number crunching there. Thing is, I can't pay extra for extra data where I live. Docomo hasn't got any way to extend the data cap after I've reached it; I would have to wait for the reset next month.

  • tym0

    I'm surprised that no one noticed that it's not "Google voice" but "Hangouts" that is getting VOIP call.

    • Sir_Brizz

      The VOIP calling goes through your Google Voice number.

      • tym0

        yeah but the whole article talk about it like it's the voice app that is getting updated and not the hangouts app.

        • hp420

          that's because google voice and hangouts are expected to be merged in the next firmware update

          • tym0

            Doesn't change the fact that the article is wrong, the important part of the news is that voice is getting merge into hangouts but the way it's written make it sound like it's just an updated to voice.

          • Jimas

            Yeah I was confused about that too. But reading the Google+ post more carefully, it's Hangouts that's receiving the VOIP functionality. Good thing to see that Hangouts is taking over for Google Voice!

  • Primalxconvoy

    "Stop complaining. We have a massive investment in IOS. I promise you will be catered for with a watered down version later on, just like all our other apps. Don't get uppity because we show some love to Google users who use iOS. There are a more of them. And they are more important ;) "

    Fixed it for you. 

  • ad

    Only US and Canada, so I cant use it anyway.

    • natabbotts

      Surely they can operate VOIP outwith US and Canada, in the long term, even if they don't go full out Google Voice? *hopes*

  • sohappy

    freedom pop + google voice = EPIC WIN!!!

  • Linx

    MMS?????????????????????????

  • Imperticus

    Meh it's US only.

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  • chaztech

    Apple first cause that's what they use?

  • ya right

    Just add talkatone

  • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

    >> If you can essentially turn Voice/Hangouts into your telephone provider,
    a WiFi or LTE tablet suddenly becomes a full-fledged smartphone, albeit a somewhat unconventional one.

    How about turning an old Droid RAZR MAXX w/ grandfathered unlimited data into a hotspot, and tethered to a Nexus 5? The only way to use the upcoming Nexus on Verizon?

  • Trent Callahan

    Google keeps pissing me off. This has taken so long, and now this? I actually don't even care anymore. There goes a good bit of my respect. Google needs to improve its Android apps because they aren't on par with the iOS correspondents, yet they pay them attention first? Whatever. I'm done.

  • eilegz

    now how about google voice for other countries...

  • My name is….

    Come on Google, this is a bad thing.

  • jihn

    So do we need Google voice or not? I have tmobile unlimited minutes and SMS anyway just trying to understand.

  • Troy Leonard

    Who cares about voip grooveip has that covered give me mms already.

  • fjleon

    you can get an US google voice number easily if you are outside the US like me, using a proxy or vpn. I tested US calling with this app and indeed works fine, however i wasn't able to call myself (ipod to android). It is very obvious this will get released on kit kat, though i am still a little pissed they chose ios first, and the "apple approve factor" is moot since you can choose the date of release on the app store

  • David Margolin

    iOS screenshots... HOW COULD YOU!!!

    • BrianLipp

      its only out on iOS right now, so its pretty much the only way to get screens of it

  • Itchy_Robot

    Fucking awesome... adios Verizon, hello Tmobile $30 plan.

  • Ali

    What is the difference between a VOIP call and a a normal video call with hangouts without camera ? both use Wifi or cellular data right ? is the only difference is the integration with you phone number?

    • BrianLipp

      i think their video calls are done through your gmail/g+ name and are categorized as a "hangout" while a VOIP call is, like you say, with the phone number and like a normal call you would make through the phone app.

      • Ali

        Hum, i think google is pushing hangouts to be more like viber, and pretty more useful, thank to the integration with sms/mms app.

  • FrillArtist

    WOOOOOOW!! Are you f**king kidding me?

  • Grey

    I have an app on my galaxy tab that uses Google voice to allow me to make calls via wifi - so you see it's not "only" available on ijunk

  • Joshua

    I suspect that iOS gets the update now because that's the only update they're getting for the time being. I'm willing to bet that part of the 4.4 release will be an update to the Hangouts app that will bring several changes. Rather than releasing several small changes, causing more burdens to users and Google's own servers alike, they're going to release it all at once as a single update. Of course, this is pure speculation: I have no evidence to back up any of this.

    So relax, because it will come to Android soon enough, I'm sure. Just be patient.

  • 8Charlie

    Google is awesome. They can always find a way to make it's own users feel like second-class users. Why we buying Nexus phones if you're gonna release new features on iOS first.

    And I don't wanna here about departments that work seperately, because that's why we have management and CEOs.

    It's coming soon to Android? Well then make iOS users wait for it also? And the App Store has a feature to select which day to release the app.

    To test it out first? Google Play has a beta testers feature, release it there.

  • Druter

    F THAT! Does apple show us any love....I mean like at all. No way! ios users can bloody well wait. Its enough to make me start investing in another mobile os!

  • j¤n Gårrëtt [5,000+]

    no way in hell apple would release one of their apps (if ever they released them at all) to Android users fist and make iOS users wait. Google has done this several times before and to be frank--It makes us Android fans and defenders look stupid.

  • Glich

    i wonder if we will get native dial support if so grove-ip and others are sherlocked.

  • Daldain

    I am slightly miffed because Apple never gives anything outside their ecosystem.

    What has Apple given (for better) any user outside of their closed walled garden?

    • http://www.twitter.com/ninjustin ninjustin

      Apple sells products Google sells Services (Well advertising in those services) Is there any Apple service you really want anyway? Other than Airplay which isn't even an app per say I'll pass on Apple's services.

  • me

    Still waiting......

  • nnyan

    Well it's been 2 months and nada. up to 4.4.2 and still no VOIP on voice/hangouts.

  • Justin Gregory

    I don't clearly understand why people not just use standard SIP. There are a lot of high quality free softphone for all platforms like mizudroid or csipsimle or sipdroid

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