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Courtesy of an anonymous tipster, we've got a nice weekend treat for those caught up in Nexus season rumor hysteria. A document, purported to be an internal Service Manual for the LG-D821 and posted to scribd, gives us an in-depth look at the next Nexus phone.

There's a lot of technical information, flow charts, diagrams, and photos of silicon here, but there are a few things worth picking out before you dive into the full document.

First, we now have a new look at the device, with the document including line drawings and disassembly photos.

Update 10/6/13 8am PT: The manual and images from it have been taken down at LG's request.

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The document also gives us a peek at most of the device's specs, confirming and expanding upon recent rumors – here's a quick rundown of what it reveals.

  • 4.95" 1080p display (IPS TFT for those interested)
  • 32GB internal storage (other capacities not specified)
  • 2GB RAM
  • MSM8974 aka Snapdragon 800 at 2.3GHz
  • 8MP OIS rear camera, 1.3MP front camera
  • 2300mAh battery
  • Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Proximity/Ambient Light, Pressure
  • Slimport compatibility
  • Micro SIM slot
  • Notification light
  • Wireless charging
  • NFC
  • Bluetooth 3.0 (We assume this is an error – Bluetooth 4.0 appears elsewhere in the document, but according to the last page it's still a draft.)
  • UMTS/GSM/CDMA/LTE compatibility

It also indicates the exact same dimensions as the Nexus 4. Remember, though, that this document is a draft and this is likely an error.

Update: As some readers have pointed out, the document also mentions 16GB eMMC (on page 8), so we may be looking at at least two storage capacities, both thankfully larger than 8GB.

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It also appears that the mysterious circle on the front of the device is in fact the earpiece – we still don't have a clear view of it, but our assumption is that it's just a uniquely designed speaker grill. We do get a peak at the camera and speaker modules though.

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Thanks, Anon!

Liam Spradlin
Liam loves Android, design, user experience, and travel. He doesn't love ill-proportioned letter forms, advertisements made entirely of stock photography, and writing biographical snippets.

  • Shamu

    I just blew into a million kitkat bars with excitement!!!

  • http://rootzwiki.com/news Max M.

    Gah I hate headphone jacks on the top.

    • Mayoo

      Then buy wireless ones

      • http://rootzwiki.com/news Max M.

        Or I could just keep complaining about it. Cmon, this is the internet.

    • Andrew

      Especially when plugging your phone into power and headphones (like in a vehicle) makes it look ridiculous with wires coming out both ends.

    • Joshua

      And I can't stand them on the bottom. Someone is always going to be disappointed.

      • http://rootzwiki.com/news Max M.

        Yep, but I'm gonna get the phone anyway so looks like I have a lot of disappointment in my future.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

      Snag a Sony Xperia Z Ultra. Mine has it on the right side near the top. ;)

    • Salinger

      I prefer it actually. WHen you have headphones plugged in to the bottom of a phone, it can be awkward for typing. With the jack on top, it's out of the way.

      • http://rootzwiki.com/news Max M.

        Actually that's a good point. I guess I don't often type with the headphones in. I just get annoyed when my phone is in my pocket and I have to flip it when pulling it out.

        • http://www.ahles.nl/ Patrick Ahles

          Then put it in your pocket the other way around...

          • http://rootzwiki.com/news Max M.

            Then the cord will be in the bottom of the pocket...

          • http://www.ahles.nl/ Patrick Ahles

            So what? Don't get annoyed so easily!

          • http://rootzwiki.com/news Max M.

            I'll do what I want! I'm on the internet! I'm entitled!

          • http://www.ahles.nl/ Patrick Ahles

            you're entitled to STFU! ;)

  • briankariu

    Sweet mother of leaks. For nexus devices, when it leaks, it floods....

    • icyrock1

      Thankfully! :P

      Can't wait to pick one of these up (hopefully, there aren't any stock issues with this one like there were with the Nexus 4).

      • briankariu

        Am sure Google is not so stupid as to fuddle two consecutive product launches. Plenty of stock to go around am sure. 1080p on the nexus will be gorgeous. Athough am hoping that there are more battery refinements more than anything

        • DirkBelig

          They botched the Nexus 4 launch after botching the OG Nexus 7 rollout. That they saw Play Stores starting in Australia, then Germany and the UK collapsing under demand and then did nothing to shore up North America should've resulted in pink slips going to the (ir)responsible parties.

          • Kcls

            But the 2013 N7 launch was fine right?

          • DirkBelig

            I didn't deal with Play for the N7.2 - I went to Staples when they decided to go early. Glad I did because it repeatedly refused to respond to the power button and forced a reboot. Took it back and exchanged it and the replacement has been much better.

            My OG N7 arrived days after B&M stores were selling it, so I paid $14 shipping to get it later than everyone else AND the moment I turned it on and saw the washed-out, milky-gray screen I couldn't believe it had made it out of the factory. It took spending over 90 minutes on hold over a week to get the people on the phones to set up a replacement. It was a disaster.

            If Google is smart, they'll have these in B&M stores plus Amazon for purchase, like they did with the N7.2 and Chromecast.

          • Simon Belmont

            I don't think Google expected that the original N7 and the N4 would be such hits and didn't create NEARLY enough units to start out with. I'll admit that the supply issue on the N4, that lasted for months, was pretty bad.

            I have great hope that Google will have this launch go smoothly, with plenty of units for all. After all, it only benefits them more to sell more units and they have to strike when the iron is hot.

          • Mike

            Utter tripe. There was historically no demand for Nexus devices prior to these launches, the extreme demand took both Google and LG by total surprise. It takes 3+ months to ramp up production and order more stock.

          • Spoken Word™

            BS! Google has yet to release any sales numbers for the N4. That is historically not a good sign. Much like the HTC learned with the One, all the nerd love in the world doesn't equate to actual sales.

    • chriscarver

      Is that a micro sim slot I see?! Is this expandable or are they talking about internal micro sim?!

      TELL ME NOW!!

      • http://friskychatter.com/ _jsw_

        Micro SIM, not micro SD. Same as on the N4.

        • chriscarver

          Aw gosh... That was some wishful thinking.

      • discovery

        For some reason my brain also thought it's micro SD even though I read micro SIM :P

    • James G

      The images are on http://bit.ly/1huNyyb, the wayback machine.

    • James G

      lol, wayback has da photos - https://bitly.com/1b0cE6l

    • mrondo

      brian are you kenyan?

      • briankariu

        Yeah. Very much Kenyan :D

        • mrondo

          no way! me too. it's not everyday you find one caught up in nexus 5 fever

          • briankariu

            Yeah. Am an android purist. Got the nexus 7 2013 and Nexus 4. Waiting for the N5 to make it a complete set :D

          • mrondo

            nice! I really want this device as soon as it's released but I don't know how I'll get it as I doubt anyone will sell it locally. how did you get your nexus 7 2013?

          • briankariu

            You should know people :P Lol, an uncle of mine in states got it for me. Had the n7 2012 before that. Hit me up on briankariu@gmail I could probably sort you out in December

          • mrondo

            am knowing you now :-P you're clearly a nexus device enthusiast. alright, lemme email you...

    • hsis

      Those upvotes :0

  • RDPG

    Did we completely rule out vzw yet?

    • topgun966

      No, actually gives credit to it might come to vzw. CDMA radios.

      • Gus70

        No Verizon. CDMA radio is only for Sprint CDMA frequencies.

        • bob loblaw

          My guess is that this manual is for the Latin American variant that was rumored. All the LTE bands are Latin American.

          • ChristianMcC

            You are correct, Brazil is the one believed to be the initial recipient. D820 is NA variant with LTE bands 2/4/5/17/25/26/41.

        • Epic Tea

          Wohooo! Thank You Google and Thank you Sprint definitly my next phone even though I just upgraded to the gs4 3 months ago I will gladly sell it for a a nexus.

      • djb

        Actually it's WCDMA, not just CDMA. Verizon doesn't work with WCDMA as far as I can tell. Check Page 5 of the PDF that was provided.

  • usamaisawake

    Awesome. Now we just need to know the price.

  • https://plus.google.com/117965295509267254340/posts Dean Wisener

    CDMA?! Verizon!!!???

    • silver_arrow

      More like Sprint.

      • https://plus.google.com/117965295509267254340/posts Dean Wisener

        DON'T CRUSH MY DREAMS!
        but you're probably right...

  • Shamu

    also, 11.5 hours of talk time on 3g (as said in the article) is pretty damn good!

    • Shamu

      the g2 says 7 hours on phonearena's spec sheet

  • Chris

    The battery size is still making me cringe.... :(

    • Don’t Fret Child

      why? there are hardly any phones with larger batteries, and if you want a lower cost on a device you would need to make some things smaller. I'm on a gnex with a 2100 and i can last the whole day easily on wifi, this thing will definitely last especially if kit kat is as small as rumors have suggested.

      • Simon Belmont

        Heck, I have the normal battery (1750 mAh) on my G'Nex and I easily make it through a day with heavy usage (many hours of screen on time) and on HSPA+.

        Android 4.3 has definitely had a noticeable positive impact on battery life for my G'Nex. It was never something that I complained about before Android 4.3, but every little bit helps, and Android 4.4 will probably be even better.

        • syntaxxerror

          How many hours? I get like 2 hours of screen-on time with mobile data off all the time, and airplane mode when i'm on Wifi (like 90% of the time).

          • Simon Belmont

            At least 3 hours. But often times 4+ hours.

            I have 1.5 hours right now with 68% battery life left and 23 hours since the last charge. This is all on HSPA+. I do have strong signal, so I assume that helps a lot. Cheers.

          • syntaxxerror

            Almost all the time was spent in airplane mode (when the signal bar is not there), yet my performance is lacking:
            http://i.imgur.com/ck28mNB.png
            http://i.imgur.com/T2toDiA.png
            http://i.imgur.com/Ffuw5Ow.png

            Any ideas?

          • ludalex

            What's the name of your theme?

          • syntaxxerror
          • yay

            If you want an alternative, I'd also recommend the Transparent Theme by SpadaBoss

            https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cm9.theme.TransparentCM

          • ludalex

            Thanks.

          • Simon Belmont

            Wow. That's pretty bad. It looks like that's a custom ROM? What ROM is it?

            I'm on bone stock Android 4.3. It looks like Reddit is using a lot of CPU time for syncing. Try turning the auto-sync off on that? See if that improves your battery life.

          • syntaxxerror

            ROM is beanstalk, it's pretty rock solid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214031

            The thing is, I got comparable battery life on stock 4.3, and "Reddit Sync" is the name of the app, that battery figure is from foreground use (I spent quite a bit of time in that app, background sync disabled).

            I've tried various things to improve battery, like ROMs, using the stock firmware, but there's nothing I've found that helps. I don't know why your unit has so much better battery life than mine; I've basically given up. Maybe kitkat will help.

          • Simon Belmont

            I see. I didn't realize that was for foreground app usage. I assumed it was actually an amalgamation of background and foreground, like the regular battery stats Whoops.

            I wonder if your battery, itself, is just worn out? How old is it? Mine is pretty new. I know that's probably a longshot, but your battery life seems way out of line compared to other G'Nex phones I've dealt with.

          • syntaxxerror

            It could be worn out, the phone is 1.5 years old. I would buy a new battery but I usually don't need more than two hours of screen time from it, so for me this battery will suffice.

        • Suhas

          I really don't agree with the battery usage (however it can differ from person to person). For instance I've been loving my GNex for all it stands except for the battery life. Used to be on stock; tried many a ROMs and now finally on CM but still it's the same story.

          If I keep my network connectivity on 2G I can last a full day (working day - minimal activity) with 2hrs of screen time. But I don't consider that as good battery life at all. If I switch to 3G/HSPA+ and start using it, it just drains out like a hard case of diarrhea.

          Compare that to the likes of Note 3, G2, where with all that usage you can still shoot for ~5hrs of screen time which is insanely good (I know screen time is not the best measure but it is one of the most important for me). And I'm making this comparison to the newer devices cuz the next Nexus is yet to come.

          So I hope KitKat does have something special to save this upcoming Nexus' juice which will be enuf to run from dawn to dusk. The only thing I would love to have in my next Nexus is the ability to not keeping it plugged into the charger most of the time.

          • Simon Belmont

            I agree that it varies by person and how they use it. It also depends on ROM, network signal strength, age of the battery, and a bunch of other little factors. Me, I use my phone heavily (power user) throughout the day for work and play alike. I really do get the battery life I said above.

            Comparing it to the Note 3 and G2, I mean really, their batteries are almost twice as big as the Galaxy Nexus' stock battery. Yes, they have faster SoCs and bigger screens, but those have also gained in power efficiency through the generations for various reasons, which can explain it. I think Android 4.3 started a push for better battery life, and I believe Android 4.4 will continue that push, so 2300 mAh will be fine in the Nexus 5.

      • mesmorino

        That's not a stock battery in your gnex, so your comparison is invalid. Furthermore, 2100 or even 2300mah batteries are just on the low side of adequate.

        Three phones that have lather capacity batteries are the LG G2, the galaxy note 3 and the RAZR maxx hd

        • Alok

          And the Xperia Z1! Damn, people forget Sony all the time!

          • Stacey Liu

            Too bad the Z1 has poor battery life.

            It just goes to show that the battery size isn't an accurate indicator of battery life.

            For all we know the new N4/N5 might get fantastic battery life.

          • Steven Z

            I'm pretty sure the Z1 had pretty damn good battery life according to tests...

        • jan35

          And the Xiaomi Mi3 with Li-Ion 3050 mAh (144 x 73,6 x 8,1 mm)

        • rr93

          What about the LG Optimus G Pro? 3140 mAh

        • http://www.dsaif.com/ Saif

          HTC Butterfly S

        • JonJon

          The Galaxy S4 also has a larger battery capacity. It's at 2600 mAh i believe.

      • Chris

        Read my above post, thanks!

    • Shamu

      As I said previosuly, the report says 11.5 hours of talk time on 3g (as said in the article) which is damn good!

      • Chris

        Do you have a phone with LTE? If you do then you'd know that it kills the battery to surf the web, which is what i use my phone for more then anything. I have the LG Optimus G, with a 2100mah battery, and if i surf the internet for 5-6 hours my phone is dead, even if i use wifi. That isn't even at full screen brightness. Now up that to 720p to 1080, along with a slightly bigger screen = more battery consumption and probably less time using it.

        • Shamu

          it says 5 hours of talk on lte

          • Chris

            I know, but like i said, that isn't the primary use of my phone. It's great if you only use your phone for talking though!

          • Shamu

            yeah i know its unfortunate that these official reports dont use other methods to measure battery

          • Chris

            Yeah, i'm sure there will be a ton on it from the guys here at AP once they release demo units n such. I'm not hating on the Nexus 5, i'm gonna get one because i love the Nexus program. I just wish that they would up the ante on batteries too, though i know it wouldn't be cheap.

          • dndollars

            nexus 4 and lg g2 user here. I have to say the lg g2 is so much better in battery life, of course It has the more capacity 3000mah, easy a day and half of use or 5-6 hours screen on time on heavy use. Nexus 4 in the other hand I get 2 hours and half on heavy use. I don't expect the nexus 5 to be significantly better than the nexus 4. Maybe s800 could help the nexus 5 little bit. We'll see once it comes out.

          • Chris

            Yeah, i'm really tempted by the G2, i hear it's great! I'm gonna wait and see what people say about the N5 first though!

          • MindFever

            Come on...2hours screen on time? My N4 lasts twice as much (with auto brightness and in a well lit room,which means display is probably on 40% brightness most of the time)

          • aaron cooper

            I get a day and a half on my Nexus 4 after simply adding Matr1x kernel enhancements to my phone.

        • Stacey Liu

          LTE uses less power than 3G/HSPA+ on modern phones, mainly because it can idle the radio much faster.

          • Sebouh
          • Chris

            I know, but not when surfing the web lol

          • Stacey Liu

            Why not? You're not constantly loading webpages. It will load a webpage quickly, idle while you scroll around, and ramp up once you click a link. Unless you're clicking things more often than you're actually reading, which, isn't really a normal use case.

          • Chris

            Not true, and normal case? Well there's no such thing as a normal case, no one uses their phones the exact same way. LTE burns battery, way worse then my 3G Blackberry for work. I don't care what your statistics and internet facts state, but usage wise it is fact that LTE kills your battery faster then 3G.

        • MindFever

          My N4 has excellent battery life (4h screen on time average),lasts about 18-24h depending on the cell signal. WiFi on,mobile data on,sync on...stock android,no root. It outpaces my S3 (Exynos quad core) in battery life per charge...it outpaces it by hours. Stock android handles deep-sleep well. When it is on standby the battery lasts a lot. If I only use it for calls or a few texts and mail,it can last almost two days with everything turned on. But we have great cell signal coverage so that helps a lot too.

          • Chris

            Yeah, i'm not bagging on it, i'm definitely getting one! I'm just saying, as a power user, it's kinda disappointing lol. I'm gonna hold on to my Optimus G even after i get the N5 though, so i can always switch back if my phone dies.

    • VBM

      Dude, I'm rocking a HTC One S (US TMo) and it's got 1650mAh... It'll last a while, if I'm not really using it but 2300 is a nice jump for me! I can't wait to go for a long run and that battery doesn't read 37% after 2+hours!

      • Chris

        LOL i had the One S when i was on T Mobile, loved the phone but man the battery hurt soooo bad, i could barely get my internet fix at work for half the day.... :( Here's hoping this is a much better experience for you!

  • Gnex

    I just came EVERYWHERE.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/eric-ravenscraft/ Eric Ravenscraft

      Whuh-oh, it's everywhere!

      http://youtu.be/SFgEGmAbJew

    • Matthew Gardner

      It was a spooky ghost!

  • Derek Duncan

    Kinda disappointing since I was hoping for active display feature. Can't do that without a few things not in the nexus 5

    • Simon Belmont

      It would be cool. However, I'm happy with the "Nexus RGB LED" light for notifications (which the Nexus 5 will have).

      I have it set up so I know what notifications I'm getting. It's a cheaper (and possibly more elegant) solution to the same problem.

  • Shadowstare

    32gb of internal storage? Wow.

  • Michael Montanez

    um....is the battery removable judging by how easy you can pop the back? SOMEONE PLEASE SAY YES!!!!!!

    • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

      I'm sure it can be removed if you want to put in the effort of prying off the back with a spatula, but I wouldn't count on quickly swapping batteries in and out.

    • MITM

      YES.....

      nah not really

  • vzwguy

    would it work on verizon ?

    • vzwguy

      LTE bands 13 and 4 are not supported so VZW seems unlikely.

      • Mobile Phones Fan

        I doubt we can be sure from the info in this document, alone.

        Seems to me the 'Frequency Range' table isn't spec'd. for a North American device, much less a USA variant...Central America, more likely.
        .

      • bob loblaw

        From the looks of the supported LTE bands, neither are AT&T or T mobile. They only list B1, B3, B5, B7, B8 and B20, which don't really correspond to us networks. I could be wrong, but this doesn't look like it supports North American LTE.

        • Mobile Phones Fan

          Exactly as I mentioned, nearby. Based on a check of the frequencies listed, I'd say this manual is spec'd. for a Central American variant of the device.
          .

    • Mobile Phones Fan

      See the comments, here..

      http://goo.gl/2bOk3o

      .

    • Epic Tea

      Sprint has been confirmed by many leaks and fcc files.

  • Simon Belmont

    32GB. Thank you and finally.

    I'll definitely be picking up that size. 16GB has been plenty on my Galaxy Nexus, but game assets and app sizes aren't getting any smaller.

    • perfectlyreasonabletoo

      Check page 8:

      16 GB eMMC.

      • Simon Belmont

        Check page 217. It says 32GB eMMC.

        My guess is there's going to be a 16GB and 32GB option. Which would be great.

        • Fred

          Check page 227 (you'll need the real PDF) At the bottom on the right there is a little block that shows different values for '32G_eMMC' and '16G_eMMC'.

          So it looks like there are either one or two of the SDIN8DE4-16G-974 chip, and this variation in circuitry selects 16GB or 32GB variants.

          • Fred

            Actually, doing a little more digging, there is a SDIN8DE4-32G pictured on page 37 - the 32GB part. So they swap out that big chip and change a small solder connection depending on desired capacity.

            It should be noted, there is a -64G version available as well, should they want to....

            However, there is no sign in this doc that its planned.

            Wholesale prices go:
            16GB : $28

            32GB : $53

            64GB : $108

            Time will tell how much they markup the different versions, but to them the cost difference is less than $25.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

            Oh man I'd love a 64GB version.

          • Chris

            Shows you how much Apple rip you off charging 100 more per memory increase.

          • pfmiller

            I wish that was just an Apple thing. I had to pay an extra hundred for my 32GB Nexus 10.

        • iandouglas

          Yeah, there's a reference on the circuit on pg40 where you can clearly see the circuit can be used in the D820 and D821 and has both a 16GB and 32GB variant.

      • Justin Johnson

        from page 8/9
        16Gb(SDRAM DDR2) + 16GB eMMC

        • Joshua

          16 Gb RAM means 2 GB. The capitalization of the unit matters, for all those are just casually breezing along. I don't want to see reports of "Next Nexus phone to have 16GB of RAM!", heheh.

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            Gotya, I thought the lower case b was strange. After all, it's not 64 bit, 32 bit can only handle max 4 GB RAM.

        • Enrico Conca

          However, the RAM cannot be DDR2, as the Snapdragon 800 only supports DDR3 (and in fact in other places it's correctly reported DDR3).

          • Bartek Juszczak

            Yes, that's the thing, not everything in this matches up, one page says it has 2GB of DDR3 and another says that it has 16Gb of DDR2 = 2GB of DDR2... I know it's only a draft but... it could be fake

          • Pascal

            16Gb/8 = 2 GB

          • Bartek Juszczak

            Yes I know... that's what I said, I'm pointing out the fact that one page says it's DDR2 and another says it's DDR3

          • Enrico Conca

            Well, an other interpretation could be that it is yet a result of the monkey-ish copy&paste from the Nexus 4 manual (see measures and so on).

          • Mike

            Wrong. Snapdragon 800 supports DDR2.

          • Enrico Conca

            Sorry, but you are wrong. The DDR2 support was left over when they switched from the Krait 200 microarchitecture (S4 Pro like in the Nexus 4) to the newer Krait 300 (like the N7 2013's S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600). Snapdragon 800 has an even newer uArchitecture, the Krait 400, and I repeat, it only supports dual channel LP-DDR3.

    • Matthew

      Confirming the 32GB storage was my last request. This is my next. Hopefully they learned a lesson from the N4 inital sales period.

      • baconslayer09

        16 GB is barely enough for me. Meanwhile, my 32 GB Nexus 7 2013 is perfect in terms of storage for me. I was going to buy this phone regardless, but the 32 GB option is icing on the cake.

        • Matthew

          I had a 16GB GSII and that wasn't enough. Upgraded to a 64GB One X+ and I never filled it. Went to a 32GB One and it was just right. The N5 could very well be my ideal phone.

          • Brandon Jiang

            when you had your 16gb s2 why didn't you just buy a microSD....? 0.o

          • Matthew

            Odd reasons. I owned one, but A) It was always in my camera. B) I'm lazy and didn't feel like buying a second one and C) I found Android's implementation of storing things on external SD cards very cumbersome and counterintuitive.

          • mydroidhaswood

            You found "Android's implementation of storing things on external SD cards very cumbersome and counterintuitive."? Wtf?

          • John Kiser

            It isn't actually designed to store things natively on SD cards those are OEM addons :D

          • PhoenixPath

            It's why Google nixed the SD Cards. The OS wasn't designed to handle them in a way that was at all intuitive. OEM's did whatever they wanted with them which meant you usually ended up with two storage file-systems. The last thing Google wants anyone doing is mucking about in file-systems on a modern touch-screen OS and wondering where the heck the photo they just took is and why it's not in the same place it was on the last device (or worse, photo app) that they used.

            It didn't much bother us, because we tend to like mucking about in file-systems. Most folks, on the other hand...do not.

        • aaron cooper

          Funny, I haven't filled up my 8GB Nexus4 yet.....and it just works for me still...

    • Karan O

      Finally I will get a nexus device 16GB was a dealbreaker for me and now I can change this laggy s4 with a beast nexus 5 and pair it with my nexus 7 2013. GO GOOGLE

    • Allen

      Yes, me too on both fronts. I'm really glad for the micro SIM as well. I could cough up a nano if I absolutely had to, but the micro will be much easier to come by.

      Exciting!

      • MindFever

        Yeah,micro SIM ftw

  • Aziz Nebbaki

    This made my day/night! Was thinking about getting the Note 3 today.

  • Tim Harper

    I hope it works with Verizon...probably not though :(

    • Mayoo

      I think it is fair to say that Verizon is not compatible and not the other way around ;-)

  • Max

    FM radio? Nice.

    • http://www.tylerwatt12.com/ Tyler Watthanaphand

      Nexus 4 had one, but the pins weren't connected to anything usable. It's probably the same case here

  • sam

    3:30 hours to fully charge it !!! That's too long

    Other than 8MB camera, everything looks great for me

    • Brian Utne

      Will you be fully charging your phone throughout the day?

      • sam

        No but other phones like galaxy s4 and iphone 5 can be fully charged in 1:30 to 2 hours

        That's way shorter time to stick next to your phone when it is charging. I hated this issue when I had the nexus 4, forgot about it with the galaxy s4, and it looks like I am going back to it

        • Brian Utne

          Can you go a whole day without charging your phone? Or does it live on a charger?

          • sam

            with the nexus 4 on 4.2.2, absolutely had to charge it more than once every day

          • Brian Utne

            Ohh okay :) Well have fun with whatever phone you're using! I'll let you know how the Nexus 5 is :)

        • Di Lu

          Iphone 5 have a 1440 mAh battery, GS4 have a 2A charger. the HTC One with 2300mAh and a 1A charger takes about the same time for 0-100 full charging, but if Google enable 2A charger then you can cut it down to 1:30-2.

    • David Li

      my htc one takes at least 4 hours

      • Di Lu

        1A Charger is the culprit, GS4 charges in about 2 hour because it can accept a 2A charger(and ships with one).

    • Di Lu

      They are probably calculating with a 1A charger, my HTC One with the same battery size (2300mAh) and a 1A charger takes that long. If Google supports Qualcomm quickcharge and a 2A charger you can cut that time to about 2 hours.

  • jh

    Verizon. Yes or no?

  • Testraindrop

    Someone will definitely lose their job when they find out who leaked it :D

  • Alex

    My G-next lasts about half the day of minor use with the extended battery on 3G and occasional 4g service. I'm no doubt getting this phone, if the battery doesn't last all day with heavy usage on 3G I'm going to cry.

    • bozs13

      My nexus 4 with a smaller battery (2100 I believe) runs more than all day for me. Maybe because it doesn't have LTE? But it does really well either way

    • Simon Belmont

      The LTE/CDMA variants of the G'Nex have been known for worse battery life than their GSM counterparts mostly due to the first generation LTE chips being so bad on battery life. My GSM G'Nex easily goes all day on HSPA+.

      I'm hoping the newer generation LTE chips in the Nexus 5 will be able to go the distance battery wise. Can't wait.

  • Cielmerlion

    I loathe those plastic hooks for back casings, anyone notice that they broke the "1" hook taking it apart?. Also tiny battery. I wish the g2 had a play store edition.

  • Ray

    If the 32Gb internal storage is in fact true, I'm sold.

  • http://www.geordienorman.com/ George Byers

    Worst kept secret or genius marketing?

  • Jack Bunce

    What, no GPS?

    • tamara

      of course there is gps, see page 122.

      • Jack Bunce

        Thanks, I didn't see that. Instead I was relying on the list of sensors in the first few pages of the document.

  • maestro PL

    That's all I have to say

  • skeeterfood

    My favorite spec:
    CDROM: No

    • topgun966

      Dammit, deal breaker for me. I need that. Come on Google!!

      • Joshua

        I refuse to buy devices unless they can interface with my floppy disks!

        • Malcolm Bates

          If my phone doesn't have a cassette player built in, count it useless for me!

          • topgun966

            You're nuts, 8 track all the way

          • Arve Svendsen

            I'll just go ahead and say it. If it does'nt support LPs its a dealbreaker

          • http://www.newportessentials.com/ paco cornholio

            Wax cylinders and punch cards all the way

          • PhoenixPath

            (8 track is a cassette...)

          • Russ

            You kids and your cassettes....8-track!

        • Simon Belmont

          Damn. I require a SCSI port and ZIP DRIVE compatibility.

          How could Google leave that out? It is 1994 after all.

        • Amory

          What? No abacus? Unforgivable.

        • http://www.facebook.com/maeurjinx.nalashup Maeurjinx Nalashup

          Have fun with your android using floppy disk drives...
          Thanks to USB OTG

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJu2Fhc-bAA

      • Mohammed Rebec

        if they will integrate Vinyl Disc player i'll buy that one, i have huge collection of Vinyl records

        • Katnapper

          Reel to reel is the deal breaker

          • Thomas Decker

            Most reel to reel devices don't fit in my pocket, that's a deal breaker for me....

        • http://www.facebook.com/maeurjinx.nalashup Maeurjinx Nalashup

          You can find one that is USB compatible vinyl disc player and code it up to work on android. Maybe theres an app for that.

    • MindFever

      But nowhere is it written that it can't make coffee... Since they made a deal with Nestlé, I predict it will make Nescafé type of espresso

      • http://tvnewswatch.blogspot.com tvnewswatch

        Not as silly as it sounds. There are already fridges and ovens with Android built in. Nestlé have cornered a good part of the home coffee market with their Nespresso machines. Who's to say they might not integrate Android into upcoming models. They already have an app enabling ordering facilities. With Android integration in a machine, automatic ordering and coffee making could be controlled between the phone/tablet and coffee machine.

    • occam

      Hollerith punch cards ... baby

  • RXG9

    Why doesn't LG add a removeable battery? ;(

    • Chris

      It's the Goog who doesn't allow the removable battery

      • RXG9

        Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

        • Chris

          Yes, and they've since moved away from it bub.

    • venkatesh

      It's not about LG. It's Google + LG Design. A Removable batter isn't a point. If u care about batter life. buy a power bank. Cheers. :)

      • John Kiser

        Or if they have a job use an outlet in their work station or the usb port on the computer to charge the thing too.

  • Stacey Liu

    Huh. Apparently the dimensions are exactly the same as the Nexus 4's. 133.9 x 68.7 x 9.1mm. The weight too, 139g.

    • Matthew

      I found that odd, as well. But if it's accurate, It's encouraging. 5 inch screen in a 4.7" body.

      • Nickan Fayyazi

        The dimensions from the FCC filing indicate that it's actually physically smaller than the N4.

        • Matthew

          Then all the better!

    • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

      This is still a draft document so my guess is they simply didn't update the measurements. I believe the FCC docs indicated something different too.

  • Jooyoung Hong

    32GB only? .........

    now i'm worried about the pricing of this beast =(
    was hoping to sell my S4 for about 350 and be able to buy this!
    guess i'll have to add on some cash on top

    • Vincent

      Well it's not built like the Nexus 4 with the glass front and back and nice glittery pattern. Maybe they sacrificed a bit in materials to bring the cost back down. The nexus 4's specs were top of the line at launch, save the battery and camera. They definitely held back with the battery here, and MAYBE the camera, so there's still hope for a low price.

      • Epic Tea

        I like this design 10x better its the same as the nexus 7 2013 which looks and feels slick clean and professional.

  • Litderose

    You made my day !!!
    Thank you, AndroidPolice !!!
    Cheers from Paris, France

  • arathkone

    Is it just me that's excited that the speaker module appears to be huge?

    • Di Lu

      I am just excited it is not on the back :D

  • skeeterfood

    They need to work on their specs, Section 2.5 SW Features:
    Item Feature Comment
    ------------- ------------ ----------------
    Bluetooth No Ver.4.0
    IM Yes Gtalk
    Voice Dial No

  • DirkBelig

    I'm saying it's going to come in at $399.

    No temperature sensor still?

  • Shabba

    Where does it say 32GB of storage in the document? All I see is 16Gb(SDRAM DDR2) + 16GB eMMC under Memory in hardware features, i.e. 2GB of RAM (1GB = 8Gb) and 16GB of storage.

    • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

      Check page 217, which I've also snipped out to include in the post.

      • Shabba

        Ah, sorry and thanks!

      • tauerman

        And block diagram on page 209 shows eMMC4.5 32GB , too.

  • Jeovan

    it seems like Lg or Google doing a Copy/Paste from Nexus 4 Manual. Same dimensions!

    • Mobile Phones Fan

      Yep, tho' most likely it's for purely for convenience. When cobbling together a new (or revised) manual, it's typical for the copywriters to carry over some of their previous model's data as filler, until the final revision gets approved.

      Hey, you never know -- maybe those specs won't change and this trick could save you some work (data-entry, pagination, etc.), down the road. That's why it's been common practice in every facet of publishing since the 1960s, at least.
      .

  • Garrett

    Damn.. How much is this thing going to cost? Still buying it on day 1, but hoping it comes closer to the Nexus 4 pricing.

    • MindFever

      I think it will cost about 50$ more than the N4 16gb (before the price drop)

  • Michael Lee

    Are those TWO speakers? Woo, stereo!

    • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

      Indeed. Glad to see them somewhere besides the back of the device.

      • Matthew

        Sadly not on the front of the device like the One. I had my fingers crossed.

        • Di Lu

          Front facing speaker= smaller screen or longer phone. So far HTC is the only OEM willing to make that trade off on a phone.

      • jonathan3579

        Are they both labeled as speakers? The G2 only has a single one and a mic hidden behind what looks like a second speaker... but isn't.

        • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

          It seems like the speaker module covers the whole bottom of the device, so my guess is yes, though there could be a mic in there too I suppose.
          At any rate we know for sure there's a mic near the top of the device, based on this document.

  • tauerman

    On page 12/11 you can see Bluetooth: no but in the comment column it says "Ver. 4.0" So yes, it has BT 4.0

    Sadly no IrDa.

    But it has FM Radio, yeah!

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Well, considering it passed BT SIG certification with 4.0, we really didn't have any doubts about that part.

  • http://filmitnow.moonfruit.com/ Brandon Wood

    pg. 228 of the document shows the Sandisk Memory module. Says 16G...so there must be a variant with 16GB. Just saying :)

    • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

      That's 16Gb, indicating 16 gigabits of RAM, which is roughly 2GB

      • http://filmitnow.moonfruit.com/ Brandon Wood

        That makes sense. Nevermind then. But 2GB RAM FTW :)

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Actually, there's a mention of 16GB eMMC as well on page 8. I'm fully expecting 16 and 32GB variants.

        • Stacey Liu

          Were you expecting them to reduce the RAM from the Nexus 4? :P

  • Zreh Sahukar

    Hey Liam, I think you guys have made a small mistake regarding the Snapdragon 800, the model number should be (in accordance with what Qualcomm manafactures) 8974, not the 8947, (which to my knowledge doesn't exist).
    Great find as always, keep the good work up!

    • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

      Ah thanks, my mistake!

  • Mozillameister

    Did the manual just say 6.5 hr talk time on GSM and less than 4 on LTE?

    That sounds atrocious... The Nexus 4 has a 15 hour rated talk time under GSM. :/

  • perfectlyreasonabletoo

    The document says 16 GB of eMMC, not 32 GB.

    • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

      Check the image directly below the tables in the post, from page 217

    • Justin Johnson

      Pages 8/9 says
      16Gb(SDRAM DDR2)/+ 16GB eMMC

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Both 16GB and 32GB internal storage are mentioned.

  • alexguitar

    That phone is gonna be one bad motha...

    • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

      Shutcho mouth!

  • Jason

    Who makes the touch screen on this? Document doesn't seem to say.

    • deltatux

      Likely LG Electronics like the Nexus 4's display.

  • Mike Reid

    FM Radio: Yes.

    Can't be true for the Nexus variant. Google hates FM and destroys it. Only Nexus One
    (HTC Desire) had it among Nexuses, and only accidentally and only with a custom kernel (for audio routing) and/or ROM.

    • deltatux

      Many devices actually have FM radios physically in the device, but Google disables them. The Nexus S had FM radio capability in its WiFi component but was hardware disabled by Google...

    • Andrew

      Devices with FM radios are taxed at a higher rate when being imported into the US. I assume this is one reason they disable it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

        That is superlame. Almost as lame as what's typically played on FM radio.

  • Tony Byatt

    My next phone...Easiest decision ever...

    • venkatesh

      Definitely agreed bro :) Me Too :) Cheers.

      • MindFever

        I subscribe to such mentality. Fuck-yes!

  • ltredbeard

    I know this isn't an issue for many ppl but I wish the SIM card tray was toolless. It would be great for when I travel.

  • NexusHOMO

    What UK LTE frequencies does it support?!

    • Mayoo

      They are all written in the above screenshots. Use your eyes my friend.

      • NexusHOMO

        I still don't understand it!

    • ChristianMcC

      Bands 3/7/20 are supported on this little piece of art, but none on the NA D820.

  • Mayoo

    Let's hope all "16Gb iz stupid Gewgle" comments will stop now.

    • Simon Belmont

      Yes. Especially considering that 16Gb only amounts to 2GB.

      Yes, I know you meant 16GB (gigabytes, not gigabits). I was being facetious.

      • MindFever

        No,you were just being a smartass. Kudos

        • Simon Belmont

          Obviously. But thanks for pointing the obvious out.

          We need people like you in congress. Maybe they'd get somewhere.

    • falter

      we should have 64gb as minimum these days... 32gb was great in 2009

  • http://www.androidrootz.com/ Anuj Patel

    I kinda want all these leaks to be a hoax by Google and then they surprise us with something completely different!

    • Mayoo

      No, KitKat was enough for this cycle

    • QwietStorm

      For what reason?

  • tauerman

    You can clearly see the Sandisk chip in the pictues with 32G written behind the Chip number. So the model in the pdf file does have 32gb installed

  • skeeterfood

    Here's the BT/WIFI chip from page 209 block diagram:
    BCM4335
    Single-Chip 5G WiFi™ 802.11ac MAC/Baseband/Radio with Bluetooth 4.0+HS & FM Receiver
    http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4335

    • tauerman

      weird though, a few pages down they write Broadcom 4339 instead of 4335

      • skeeterfood

        Yeah, I just saw that too. Probably started the design with BCM4335, but cost/area reduced to BCM4339 once it was available.

  • Abhijeet Mishra

    Please Google, do some software optimization this time so that battery life and camera quality don't suck. All nice and good to have OIS, but useless to have image quality that's no better than 4 year old Nokia phones. Otherwise, bring it on!

    • Dee Norbert

      Yep.The Camera sucks on all nexus devices and the battery life ........

  • kriskenny

    I find nothing about this phone attractive. I am an Android fan, have the Galaxy Nexus as my personal phone and an iPhone 5 as my work phone. Yet, I swapped the phones. I hate the terrible battery life on the Nexus, this one doesn't seem it'll be better. An LG... no thanks I don't like their build quality. Lastly, I see nothing that sticks out as making this a "must-have" phone. I could keep using my Galaxy Nexus and not need to update to this phone. I'm not even looking forward anymore to the new Android OS Kit-Kat. I'm more impressed with the iPhone now a-days. I like the design, it functions and the OS has improved significantly. My stock Nexus camera crashes still... I never bothered rooting the phone either. Why does this happen on a stock Nexus? It's not right... I get other random force closes here and there. Nothing major, but these FCs and camera not functioning make me prefer my iPhone over my Nexus. I feel disappointed by Google lately.

    • troy

      lol - FAIL

      • kriskenny

        ??

    • Gnex

      Subtle trolling is subtle. Eat up.

      • kriskenny

        ... nice contribution to the thread.

        • Gnex

          Thank you very much, brah.

    • Simon Belmont

      You must be using your G'Nex wrong. Mine's been trouble free and gets great battery life.

      If you prefer the iPhone, then stick with it. No sense in making a big deal out of it.

      • kriskenny

        How am I using it wrong? I am not trouble free... and I don't get good battery life. I've went to the extreme. I have two spare batteries. I have also bought an extended battery for the phone.

        I'm not making a big deal, I'm sharing my experience. I'm just not wowed by this Nexus phone. I'm usually the first to get the new Google phones.

        • Simon Belmont

          To each his/her own. I've enjoyed my G'Nex since I got it. No forcecloses, fast, smooth, and battery efficient. It runs like a champ.

          I'm not sure what the issue is with yours. Maybe try flashing a factory image via fastboot. Like I said above, if you enjoy your iPhone more, then just go with it. We all have different tastes.

          • kriskenny

            I prefer Android, I've always thought it has done circles around iPhone. But I've had better luck when it comes to stability with the iPhone. I wish I could say my G'Nex operated fine. And if I could get it to do that I'd keep using it if I can get the KitKat update "if" Verizon allows it.

          • Simon Belmont

            Maybe it's because yours is a VZW version. The LTE does drain the battery more on that variant.

            I have a GSM version which gets its updates directly from Google. Couldn't be happier.

          • Mobile Phones Fan

            *Huge* differences in Galaxy Nexus' battery life -- and, frankly, in many other performance metrics, as well -- when comparing the Verizon and GSM variants. The gulf between them is so enormous you might be tempted to think they are completely different phones, which to some extent is in fact the case.

            Ask me how I know. :-
            .

          • John Kiser

            Yeah the verizon variant of that phone just sucked in so many ways. An LTE chip back then sapped a lot of battery power and it didn't get updated properly etc.

    • Vincent

      My Galaxy Nexus works fine on stock. It never crashes and is buttery smooth. I'll most likely be upgrading to the Nexus 5 (I actually like it, but that's just my opinion). Battery life on my GNex is even pretty good, I get a little under a day with mixed usage with the stock battery.

      • Simon Belmont

        I'm in the same boat. Very happy with my G'Nex which will become a trusty backup phone when I get my Nexus 5.

        It's been fast, smooth, and battery efficient. Android 4.3 has been great on it, as well.

    • Epic Tea

      I dare you to go into any place that carries the Nexus 7 2013 hold it and tell me its a horrible design, its honestly the best looking tablet to date puts ipad mini to shame, and the nexus 5 is going the same route.

    • Epic Tea

      Enjoy your row off icons with no defult app settings and sharing capabilites that are still 3 years behind.

      Go to youtube type in ios 7 vs jellybean 4.3 and watch pocketnows video, it might shock you.

  • troy

    Bring this out on Sprint (triband capability) and you just sold me 7 units

    • John Kiser

      The d820 (the other model of this) is supposed to be on Sprint, AT&T and T-mobile support wise and is supposed to support both HSPA+ and LTE on the networks it works on (it supports all sprint bands from the documents we have seen)

  • Zieen

    I really wish manufacturers would stop trying to make phones thinner and just use the extra space for a larger battery.

    • casey

      I'm curious if a third party could make a different back that still fits, along with a custom battery higher capacity.

    • Allen

      I would go for that, but more so, I wish they would figure out how to use the energy more efficiently...same battery size but lasts longer.

      • krudl3rx

        You really don't think this has been happening?

        • MindFever

          Well,not so much on the software level...the hardware was the one that was more efficient. Android however is not really very well optimised for battery ...with all those services running in the background and such. Though it is a lot better than it was in ICS. Jellybean is way more efficient. So yeah,actually you're right

        • Stacey Liu

          It's not. Android's push notification system is terrible. Apple actually got that right: notifications for any app anytime without ridiculous battery drain.

          • Tim

            Wouldnt say that since iOS7 since they started to use REAL multitasking. Even a Nexus 4 outperforms idle battery life of any iphone with iOS7.

            Also keep in mind the iphone has a tiny screen and display is like 1/3 to half of the battery drain.

          • Stacey Liu

            That's not what I'm talking about. Apple's notification system pools requests from all apps and checks them at once. In AOSP Android, any app can check for data at any time, which is very inefficient, because the device doesn't get to sleep uninterrupted for long periods of time. Facebook can check for info at one time and Gmail might check 2 minutes later. Apple's system is also standardized. All apps use the same or a very similar method to draw data. In Android, I think devs can waste time implementing their own bullshit system, one that will inherently be less efficient than things built into Android like GCM. Older versions of Facebook did this.

            I'm pretty sure HTC Sense has a pooling system too, so that might explain why it idles so well.

          • pfmiller

            Android has a system like you describe too, it has had it pretty much forever.

          • Stacey Liu

            I know it has one. The problem is that many apps circumvent it in favor of their own systems.

    • MindFever

      My N4 is thicker than the S3...and yet it lasts twice as much in battery life (beats the shit out of my S3 in screen-on-time). Maybe the same will be for the N5? Either way,I agree with you

      • dmo580

        I'm almost certain objective evidence from reviews as well as most user testimony will disagree with you that the N4 lasts longer than the S3.

    • MoChange

      I agree we are not talking about huge amounts of added thickness or weight, perhaps an extra millimeter and a few more grams. An extra millimeter of battery would probably translate into 15- 20% more battery capacity. Given that the whole phone is 9.1mm thick and the battery is around half that, Such a sacrifice would go a long way.

    • Steve Freeman

      I just wish they would invest in some of the super efficient battery breakthroughs that have come out in the last 1-2 years, like this one: http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post=3ea5906a-c0ac-4b73-aa8f-78591fd8886f A cell phone battery that can last you a month? Yes please!

    • turboboxer

      AMEN! I am hoping this draft is still wrong. I cannot justify getting rid of my N4 if the battery is the same size.

  • Kevin Aaronson

    So.... Sprint!!??

  • skeeterfood

    If this wasn't already for sure, R/G/B LED drivers + flash LEDs on bottom right of schematic on page 228.

  • skeeterfood

    This is interesting, page 232:
    Debug port using 3.5pi EARJACK

  • skeeterfood

    No radio :(
    See page 235 top left of BCM4339 pins N2, K1, L1 are not connected.

    • venkatesh

      You can buy a pocket radio now for just $5 or even lesser. Buy it and attach it with backside of the Nexus 5. Problem Solved :)

  • TheRunner024

    I'm glad it's not using a nano-sim.

    • Simon Belmont

      It makes sense really. Only a very small fraction of models of phones use the Nano-SIM at the moment.

      Most folks buying the Nexus 5 will probably already have a micro-SIM card. So this works out for them.

    • venkatesh

      Nano sim sucks :( I too glad to have a micro sim(which they confirmed) :) Sold my Nexus 4 and waiting for my Nexus 5. We should own a non galaxy f**king series. Oh God the samsung crap releasing Galaxy core, IV,Note, Grand, S, Active, and lot more in same galaxy series. :)

      • Simon Belmont

        Yeah. The Galaxy Nexus is the only Galaxy phone I've truly loved (still using mine as a daily driver).

        I'm glad they went with Micro-SIM also. I won't need a new SIM card.

  • CodingSquared

    PLEASE BE FOR $299

    • DirkBelig

      Not a chance. The Nexus 4 was $299 for the puny 8GB version. No way are we going to get 1080p and 32GB for less than $399, which is my prediction.

      • Simon Belmont

        Which would still be a steal, frankly. I'm hoping they go even further and make it $369 (super tantalizing).

        The 16GB for $329. Wouldn't be far off the Nexus 7's pricing scheme.

      • Vincent

        They skimped out on build quality a bit this time around, so MAYBE, but also maybe not. They did increase the price of the new Nexus 7.

        • DirkBelig

          How do you know they skimped on build quality? Have you held it? What did they cut corners on?

          The new Nexus 7 is actually cheaper than the OG N7 launched. I know, because I was one of the folks who paid $250 for a 16GB unit only to have it cut to $199 a few months later as they introduced the 32GB model. Bother.

          The additional price of the N7.2 can be attributed to the addition of a back camera, the 1080p screen and the faster processor. It's a slick pad and I love it. I just hope it holds up better than the OG N7, That was great until 4.2.1 came along, after which it was a stuttering, laggy dog. It was so bad, I reverted to 4.1.2 until 4.2.2 came along and that wasn't much better. As it filled up, it started to freeze and running TRIM didn't make it better. When 4.3 came out, I did a total wipe and flash from the factory image. Not much of an improvement. Bummer.

          • Vincent

            Well, it's a lot to do with opinion on whether glass or plastic is "better," but plastic generally does cost less. I should have worded that better. They went with slightly cheaper materials and a more typical design with the 5. The Nexus 4 did have a nice "premium" in-hand feeling, even though the glass made it more fragile. And like I said it may or may not keep cost down.

          • Tim

            Glass backed phones should have never existed, I like the new n5

      • Di Lu

        Nexus 7 2013 have better specs than Nexus 7 2012, only $30 more for the 16GB version, $20 more for the 32GB version. Would surprise me if 32GB variant is more than $369, 16GB variants if they exist should be around $329,

  • Paul Grenfell

    No , no no...8mp Camera will not suffice...Sorry..

    • Vincent

      Why? Megapixels aren't much of a big deal in shot quality.

      • venkatesh

        Mega-pixels does matter Vincent, but it not the only big deal. The image Stabilization, Lens aperture size, Number of layer in Lens and finally the shutter speed. These factors are 75% responsible for quality of a picture.

        • Vincent

          That's basically what I meant. I meant it in the fact that a lot of people (and seemingly Simon Belmont) think higher MP count=better shot quality, when there are a lot of factors to consider, such as what you mentioned and even software optimization and customization.

          • venkatesh

            Well Said, forgot about the number matter Greeks. Let us have a fresh cake from Google. Without any customization.

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            Don't forget 8MP is enough to film in UD 4K.

    • Simon Belmont

      I think 8 megapixels is a pretty good compromise for resolution versus file size. And frankly, it's more about the sensor size, lens array, and photo processing these days.

      I have a 5 megapixel camera in my G'Nex and I've been pleased with its resolution. And 8 megapixel will be a nice upgrade, plus have advanced optics and OIS.

    • skeeterfood

      With this small a lens, 8MP is probably still overkill. Only so much light can get through the lens, so more MP = less light per pixel = noise and crappy low-light performance. OIS will allow longer exposure though (assuming the subject isn't moving), so there's a bit more light per pixel.

      • Di Lu

        An Iphone 5S style 8MP/1.5-1-65micron pixel camera would be great. a 13MP/1.1micron camera like GS4/G2 will not do as well in low light shots.

    • Epic Tea

      I have a note 2 now had both the htc1 and gs4 before, my wife also has gs4 the camera is not that noticeably different.

      Also Mp is not as important as the sensors, I had the htc 1 many months back it took fantastic photos many times better than my wives gs4, I honestly miss the htc one trying to get it back but I think im selling my note and going for the n5 because I always end up flashing roms anyways lol.

  • QwietStorm

    May not be a mems|cam but I will gratefully accept an OIS camera with a good lens. That has been the biggest sore spot with the Nexus line. Hopefully we can actually order it this time without breaking our F5 key.

  • Crack Kills

    Will this be on verizon. If not im getting a note 3

    • Brandon Jiang

      a nexus device will never be on verizon

      • Televise

        never again, rather,

    • Justin S

      The LG G2 is the closest we will get to the Nexus 5.

  • Grant

    If I can CONSISTENTLY get more than 3+ hours of on screen time I'll be happy. The rest looks great. Camera and Battery are what I would like to see improvements on after spending 10 months with the Nexus 4.

  • Prasad Tiruvalluri

    It shows Bluetooth ver4.0 on page 12...

  • venkatesh

    Does any one know? what was the shipping charge of a mobile phone from USA to Canada. (Consider as Nexus 4 )

  • decken

    According to the manual, its size is exactly the same with the nexus 4 but with different thickness. That's different from the FCC leak which stated that its size is smaller

  • Laborin_HK

    So... who wants to buy my HTC one?

  • venkatesh

    I believe that nexus 5 pricing is around $449 and $400 respectively.

  • kurbstar

    No microSD slot again, but it looks like they fixed the USB OTG support that was broken on the Nexus 4 (I see several mentions of +5V0_VREG_OTG(500mA) in the manual)

    • David Hart

      I'm just as disappointed about the Msd, but I'm probably going to get this phone.
      That's nice to hear about the otg.

      I also noticed that it has a pressure sensor, that'll be really nice to use.

      • kurbstar

        they do have this thing now:
        http://www.meenova.com/

        just load all your movies on that and save the onboard storage for everything else

        • David Hart

          I actually was one of the backers! :D

          But thanks!

  • Ali AlSaibie

    I hope more LTE bands are covered than the ones listed. The inclusion of band 3 at least ( (1800Mhz - most common band worldwide) would make a big difference. It is already supported by the both new Nexus 7 models and all iPhone 5S/5C models.

    • ChristianMcC

      Bands 2/4/5/17/25/26/41 are supported on the D820, which is for NA. D821 is for everyone else.

  • Hans Gruber

    lmao, the figures for talk/standby time are pretty much half what the xperia Z1 and note 3 are, how did anybody think 2300mah would be adequate?

    looks like i might be ditching nexus after 2 years and going for the z1 :/

    • David Hart

      Where does it say that?

      The note 3 is also huge though..

    • Alex S

      Keep in mind these three things:
      1) The HTC One, the S4, and the Moto X all have similar battery sizes.
      2) If it does indeed have an s800, then it could actually turn out to have amazing battery life. The processors are starting to come more and more battery efficient, and this is one of the best
      3) The Note 3 and the Z1 are *huge* devices, and are obviously going to have much larger batteries than a smaller nexus device.

      • Mobile Phones Fan

        You forgot 'Keep in Mind' #4: it will come with Android 4.4, KitKat.

        Google gossip is predicting some interesting optimizations for this rev, which could have a significant impact on the Nexus 4.2's battery life.
        .

        • Alex S

          I haven't heard anything about that. Care to elaborate further?

        • Alberto Blasi

          They say that every single time, yet my 4.3 phone doesn't get through a day of use.

      • Hans Gruber

        OK then, maybe a better comparison would be the LG G2?
        That has a 3000mah battery and again comparable life figures to the z1/note 3

      • Hans Gruber

        oh also, Z1 is huge?
        by huge do you mean comparable size?
        by 5" 1080p devices, give or take a bit

        • Tim

          Z1 is too big, get a nexus5 for a 'compact' bigscreen phone or go for the Note 3 with a larger screen and with almost the same dimensions as the Z1.

          Z1 hasnt great battery life, considering its 3000mah battery...

  • lnfected

    A front look of the next nexus from the service manual.

  • Nagateja

    No one's worried about battery???

    • Vincent

      Check elsewhere on the internet. Most people are worried about it. Nexus devices generally don't have great batteries. The fact that it'll come with the Snapdragon 800 and KitKat will both help with battery life, though.

  • Leonardo Baez

    despite no SD card and no removable battery.... This will be my next phone. Bye bye samsung

    • MindFever

      You will become a happy person. Switched to my Nexus 4 and never looked back. Everything works smooth and fast. Congrats on your decision :)

  • kliu0x52

    Wait, a "Yes" to FM Radio? Please let that not be a draft error.

  • Epic Tea

    Wow finally some very clear photos, this is going to be a hit!

    Looks like 32gb is becoming the new entry level thanks to HTC One setting that standard for 32gb entry level, and then samsung following with the note 3 starting at 32gb also.

    • David Hart

      If this is true, I am so happy.

      But I still feel like 64GB should be the entry level. I just picked up a class 10 64GB mSD for $40. In my s4 it does perform slightly slower than the internal, but still.

  • Mahesh

    Finally the season has come. How can we expect phone without all these leaks.

  • Phil

    Think i'm gonna get this phone and swithc to T-Mobile. They finally have LTE in my area and all of the edge areas have been turned into hspa+42

  • creator78

    "UMTS/GSM/CDMA/LTE compatibility" Does this mean VZW support Would be nice

    • Epic Tea

      Sorry its in sprint vz has screwed google first with the gnex now with the nexus 7.2 Lte.

      Also all the fcc filings and leaks were sprint cdma bands.

  • lnfected

    Battery is not as bad as Nexus 4.

    According to a Nexus 4 service manual (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsshxx3m9erer48/LG%20E960%20Nexus%204%20Mako%20service%20manual.pdf), when having a voice call at a GSM only, battery capacity decreases at about 400 mAh/h out of 2150 mAh battery, which mathematically means that its talk time is approximately about 5 hour 22.5 minutes.

    In contrast, according to the new Nexus service manual, it can be assumed that using the similar test that LG performed on the Nexus 4, the new Nexus' battery drains slower at 340 mAh/h out of 2300 mAh battery, which mathematically means that its talk time is approximately about 6 hour 46 minutes.

    • Televise

      I get about 4 hours screen on time currently, and about 16 hours standby. Perfectly fine with my nexus 4 battery life as it is.

      • MindFever

        Yeah,me too. I also get 4h of screen-on-time and about 18h to 25h of standby on average. I don't get how so many people have bad battery life with their Nexus 4. The battery life on this thing is excellent...my S3 (quad core variant) is easily beaten by N4's performance and battery life and I thought the S3 had amazing battery life

        • selonmoi

          Today I have just 43 minutes screen on time so far, and I'm already down to 81% battery. How?

          24% Android OS.

          Which means what? I still have no idea. I just know that some days my Nexus 4's battery life is okay, and some days it's atrocious, and I'd better keep my mophie charged and handy, since I never know when the worst will happen.

  • Kramer101

    How can I download the PDF?

    • Vincent Marino

      Right below the document there should be a download button

  • abhishek

    2300 mah is a joke. galaxy s4 has 2600 mah for 5 inches. This phone will flop.

    • Aleksey_US

      you're an idiot

    • johnnyjer

      you are a flop

    • David Hart

      This phone won't flop, but that extra 300 mah can actually make a pretty decent difference.

    • Sharky

      That's an S4 with TouchWiz smeared all over it. If they get the battery life optimization in KitKat just right then the real-life difference might be negligible.

  • Andrew

    Google: you've basically spilled all the beans now. Just release the phone today instead of Oct 14/31 and we'll all love you!

  • richstrat

    Anyone notice dimensions & weight are IDENTICAL to Nexus 4? Coincidence?

    • Gnex

      That is mentioned in the article...

  • Giacomo Pegorer

    I hope that the charging time is an error!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003386080045 John doe

    removable back? Mmmmm

    • Zreh Sahukar

      no actually

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003386080045 John doe

        wondering why the manual show it as such. Maybe a repair manual.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003386080045 John doe

          Never mind, just downloaded. its a service manual.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003386080045 John doe

            Looks like the battery is replaceable, it has a ribbon cable attached but still could be ordered and swapped without sending in. cool.

          • Jadephyre

            In that regard the N4 is the same.

          • ChristianMcC

            Please, would you send me a download link?!?

        • Zreh Sahukar

          It's a repair manual and they are documenting how to replace the battery for the service technicians .

  • Rabid Rotty

    I just read the service manual, your headline is wrong, its just the standard nexus 16gb not 32. Its right there in the product description page

  • Simon_K

    I was expecting a 3000mah battery. Very disappointed.

  • lin

    LG D820: American
    LG D821; Europe

    • Faidy

      LG D820: 16 GB
      LG D821: 32 GB

    • ChristianMcC

      More so the D821 is the rest of the worlds phone, which is puzzling why it has CDMA.

      • MindFever

        WCDMA maybe ,not CDMA

        • ChristianMcC

          No, CDMA, aka evdo rev. A.

  • SpoorthyVemula

    This phone would be sick in white

    • Jadephyre

      If they manage to make it completely white, yes.
      The GNex and N4 in white looked ridiculous... either you make the front fascia white as well, or you leave the phone completely black. The other way looks half-assed.
      I'm not one to praise Apple, but take a look at the white iPhone, that is how a phone in white is supposed to look like.

      • SpoorthyVemula

        I kind of agree. I feel like a white front and back would be amazing looking. Awhite back and black bezel would still be good (for me better than full black)

  • markushi

    The barometer sensor also supports temperature sensing. See specs http://www.bosch-sensortec.com/en/homepage/products_3/environmental_sensors_1/bmp280/bmp280

    • ddevito

      nothing new there - N4 and GNex had one as well.

  • Michael Fontenot

    Woo-hoo! LTE! Instead upgrade.

  • http://www.westagemusic.com/ Marc

    Well, is this IPS TFT a good or a bad thing?

    • Andrew

      To my taste it is good.

      • http://www.westagemusic.com/ Marc

        Okay thanks ;)

    • Thomas’

      The current Nexus 4 has an "IPS Plus", the current iPhone got an "IPS TFT".

      • http://www.westagemusic.com/ Marc

        So there are no flaws in screen color to expect in the Nexus 5? I remember the Nexus 4 had some of them.

        • Thomas’

          Beats me. Like you said, some are complaining that the N4 has a "washed out" display. For me, it's just fine.

          At least the display technology will be *able* to give good results.

          • GT 2.0

            I remember the N4 use to look very blue-ish but 4.2 sorted that out and now I think it looks very well, almost as good as the N7 (2013)

    • Simon Belmont

      I think Google and Asus went out of their way to calibrate the color and other factors of the 2013 Nexus 7. I'm pretty sure Google and LG will do it for the IPS LCD screen in the Nexus 5.

      The IPS LCD in the Nexus 4, wasn't bad, by the way. It just wasn't calibrated well (at all?), which is why kernels could adjust it to look better.

  • IncCo

    The battery definitely seems to be the biggest downfall of this phone.

  • durhampolska

    Omg can't wait

  • Tony

    Damnit, so what's the real size? According to the FCC docs from a few weeks ago:

    D820 dimensions: 131.9 x 68.2 x ?? mm
    D821 dimensions: 138.5 x 70.9 x 9.1 mm

    ...we were assuming that it was going to be smaller than the N4. But now we think it's the D821 which would make it bigger? I really hope it's still going to be smaller...

  • Tim

    Still dont fuckin managed to take a supereasy front picture...One would think this is the first thing you would do.. but no..

    But the other leaks seems very nice

  • Allen

    So does anyone on here have any info regarding expected prices?

  • Sebastiano

    The BT/WiFi chip is a Broadcom BCM4335, if you trust this manual. This means it is WiFi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac and Bluetooth 4.0 capable. I don't see why not having the ac WiFi active then...

    Chip page: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4335

    • Guest

      It also looks like the phone has a dual microphone...

    • stucrmnx120fshwf

      ac, 1GB/s yay.

  • serus

    Small note: the FCC leak suggested a size of 131.9 x 68.2 whereas this one suggests 133.9-68.7

    • bt

      I noticed that, more problems with the draft? The leaked image was clearly not 133.9mm in length...

  • Kostas

    What are all those sweet tools from 252 page and over? We need a download link for those too :D

  • Pascal

    nice, just camera looks weird.

  • BrianB

    So much for the mems camera!

  • MindFever

    I'm so gonna buy this,oh man... Nice looking and 32GB !!! Need I say more? OIS and 8mpix camera ,hopefully will make decent pics.

  • Tony

    Speakers are on the bottom and not the back!! Anyone with a Nexus4 knows how awesome that alone will be!

    • MindFever

      F-yeah!!!!

  • Craig Nelson

    Google take my money and give us a release date!

  • Sam

    if it is still out there, guess it is fake, google doesn't take that long to takedown the real deal leaks.

    • Nabeel Farooqui

      its down!

  • someone755

    Looks great, but I'm afraid my contract is over next year.
    In the meantime, I'll be porting 4.4 to my Xperia.

  • newsjunkieintl

    What is the difference between the LG-D820 which we KNOW is the Nexus 5 and the LG-D821 which is also the Nexus 5?

    • Noel

      Looks like the D820 and D821 can be both Nexus devices with a slight difference in size and a few specs.

      • newsjunkieintl

        Actually did some more research and the LG-D820 is most likely the U.S. version with compatibility for AT&T, T-mobile, Sprint (including pentaband HSPA+, CDMA and LTE bands), while the LG-D821 is the "International" version with LTE optimized for Europe/Asia.

  • jabs622

    Did anyone notice the model on the NFC controller being BCM20793M, read else where this is not compatible with Google Wallet only BCM20793S is which the Nexus 4 has. Is this right?

  • http://www.greeceandroid.gr/ John D

    FM Radio: Yes
    (page 11)

  • EveryTom

    If it include OIS, only then it's worth to update from N4 to this.

    • QwietStorm

      I wouldn't say that's the only reason.

  • Wololo7

    No sign of USB OTG...

    • jabs622

      Page 236 does reference USB2.0 & OTG

      • Guest

        Chainfire's USB Host directory mentions the Nexus 5, having out-of-the-box proper OTG support.

  • ekstra

    Does anyone else find it weird that the device dimensions are exactly the same as Nexus 4 dimensions?

  • newsjunkieintl

    The FCC tests were on the LG-D820 and this is the manual for the LG-D821. So, what is different about the the LG-D820 version?

    Answer: the LG-D820 seems to be the "USA" version (supporting U.S. frequencies) and the LG-D821 seems to be the "international" version.

    See frequency support here:

    LG-D821
    http://goo.gl/GprgOL

    LG-D820
    http://goo.gl/CF1UxW

  • Derrick Hodges

    is there anything about an IR Blaster? I don't really know what to look for in the documents. Thanks

  • jh123416

    I guess us VZW customers will have to sit out until there's a 1080p near-stock Motorola device..

  • robogo

    Why such a small battery? Why? WHY??

  • Dee Norbert

    Oh men but it still be 350$ ?Here in Romania it will be 700$ :| .

  • eilegz

    sigh if they are going to release a lower battery capacity of any current 1080p flagship they rather stick with 720p screen

    • psychoace

      Some people suggested that if the G2 had this battery it would have about 6 hours of on screen time. Now since the Nexus 5 has a smaller screen, a lot less bloat and Android 4.4 (4.3 had a major improvement in battery management and the G2 is based on 4.2) we can only assume the battery life wont be that bad.

      • Simon Belmont

        I'm going to agree with you. Android 4.3 had a noticeable positive effect on battery life on my Galaxy Nexus (GSM).

        I mean, I never had a problem with it before, but there was definitely a bump up in longevity. KitKat is supposed to continue that trend, so, combined with the battery efficiency of the Snapdragon 800, I expect battery life to be quite good on the Nexus 5.

  • Nexus

    Service Manual Page 11 Fm Radio :)

  • nvitone23

    where's the mic located?

  • Michael Lavi

    Pictures have been taken down by request of LG. Pretty much confirms that they were real... Thanks for the confirmation LG!

    • Nabeel Farooqui

      yup, so we cant see the pics? anywhere?

  • Justin S

    So it seems the Nexus 5 is just going to be a slightly modified LG G2, with 4.4

    • psychoace

      Just like the Nexus 4 was a slightly modified Optimus G

      • Simon Belmont

        And the Galaxy Nexus was a modified Galaxy S2. And the Nexus S was a modified Galaxy S.

        It's cheaper to not reinvent the wheel. That's part of the reason why Google can sell these phones at a cheaper cost.

        • Justin S

          I guess I was saying it fore my own hurt feelings. We are all pretty sure the Nexus 5 isnt coming to Verizon, so I went ahead a purchased the G2. Excellent phone by the way

          • Simon Belmont

            Nothing wrong with that. You'll get a larger screen and a bigger battery.

            You'll probably get good development support. You can make it a "Nexus" with CyanogenMod.

    • QwietStorm

      Well yea.

  • Sbasz01
  • James G

    lol, on the wayback machine, you can still see the images, heres the link: http://bit.ly/1huNyyb

  • James G
  • James G

    Lemme make that a bit.ly: http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

  • James G

    lol, you can still see the pics on Wayback machine, heres the link: http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

  • James G

    Well, as they say, when ya put something on the internet, it stays on the internet forever, you can still see the pics that LG removed on the wayback machine http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

  • James G

    lol, you can still see the pics on Wayback machine, heres the link: http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

  • James G

    Well, as they say, when ya put something on the internet, it stays on the internet forever, you can still see the pics that LG removed on the wayback machine http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

  • James G

    lol, you can still see the pics on Wayback machine, heres the link: http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

  • James G

    lol, you can still see the pics on Wayback machine, heres that link: http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

    • psychoace

      Or go to engadget for the full PDF.....for now.

      • James G

        eh, same thing.

  • James G

    Well, as they say, when ya put something on the internet, it stays on the internet forever, you can still see the pics that LG removed on the wayback machine http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

    • jodyjd

      You're an up vote wannabe

      • Guest

        stfu, its a damn fact for people who want to see the pics.

  • fourthletter

    A look with no pictures.........

  • MrWicket

    like the circle ear piece, I noticed that in earlier leaks and I even though it's not that big a deal I kinda like the uniqueness of the design.

  • SilentlyGeeky

    Does the CDMA radio give hope to a VZW unit?

    • Nick Schiwy

      That or Sprint. Either way it came as a bit of a surprise for me!

    • James G

      Probably Verizon and Sprint. Remember, Google is big about Unlocked/No-contract phones so that Smartphone inflation can go down, it will probably just be a CDMA unlocked phone, like the N4.

    • Vincent Marino

      They probably won't ever go with VZW again.

  • James G

    lol, you can still see the pics on Wayback machine, heres that link: http://bit.ly/1b0cE6l

    • Vincent Marino

      We get it. You don't have to say so a thousand times.

  • HeDaleth

    I don't see LTE bands 12, 13, 14, 17 (the 700Mhz bands) on this device. Does that leave out ATT and Verizon?? Is the another device with different radios?

  • César Augusto Ramírez Franco

    Am I the only one who thinks that the 2300 mAh battery is ridiculously low compared to the 2100 mAh on the Nexus 4? The battery life on the N4 is too bad, the new Nexus should come with a 3k mAh battery considering the new screen size...

  • troy

    sorry if this was already answered but will this do SVLTE on the US CMDA model?

  • Ha Roligt

    It will be the death of the Nexus phones, unless they are based out better battery at least 3000mAh and better camera and better screen. And 4G. And we want to see something new they should stop copying iPhone all the time, we want to see achieved new "New thinking thanks"

  • torrentlover

    iPhone is better anyday.

  • falter

    32gb is great an everything, but my old Nokia N900 had 32gb... it was released in 2009. Why aren't we now looking at 64/128gb as standard?

  • Rabid Rotty

    In the pictures of the Service manual there is 32gb scandisk