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Sep
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While nothing has been officially announced just yet, it seems all but certain that CyanogenMod will be coming to Oppo's new smartphone, the N1, as an officially supported alternative to the company's own custom software layer. I can indeed confirm that something CM-related is happening, because Steve Kondik is here in Beijing for the event (as am I!), which will be happening later tonight (more around very early morning in America).

A couple of days ago, we received pretty extensive details that allegedly give much more insight into just how this Oppo-Cyanogen arrangement will work, and the gist is that Oppo will officially support and possibly ship phones with stable CyanogenMod builds, and that the CM team will be responsible for updating and maintaining the software on those devices. Oppo will even honor warranties on these phones, though that protection may go out the window if you choose to start flashing nightlies or other non-stable builds.

It's certainly an interesting idea. But is it enough to make you want this phone, sight yet unseen?

Is the Oppo N1's CyanogenMod support enough to get you interested in the phone?

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David Ruddock
David's phone is whatever is currently sitting on his desk. He is an avid writer, and enjoys playing devil's advocate in editorials, and reviewing the latest phones and gadgets. He also doesn't usually write such boring sentences.

  • David Margolin

    don't really care for cm support since it would come no matter whether cyanogen inc. does it or an awesome xda member builds it. Just happy for a new phone from Oppo. Doesn't matter if it runs CM, PA, or Oppo stock builds...

    I think the real question here is ---> PRICE?

    • dude

      Missing the point, CyanogenMod is working directly with Oppo, they will get access to the hardware drivers and closed codes, it can let them make the rom run better and stabler. Also the fact that it is officially supported, it will take precedent in the development. This is what I hope anyway.

    • dude

      The price will be competitive compared to other manufacturers. Similar to the Oppo Find 5 which was cheaper than other flagship phones. Even their new R819 is priced competitively.

      You will never get the same subsidized price as Nexus devices so don't hope on it. They are a manufacturer and needs to cover their cost. It won't happen, ever, not with Oppo, no with any other companies, don't hope on it. Put your money where your mouth is and pay the full cost if you want a highend device.

  • Logan Butler

    I mean, if the phone is crap, CM isn't going to make me want to get it. CM has pretty great support across a lot of devices, so if the Oppo N1 is actually a pretty solid phone, then CM can only make it better.

  • brett77

    A huge factor for me is screen size. Not loving the idea of a 5.9" phone, I found the Note II to be too large.

  • GazaIan

    I would love it, except I'm not into phones that big. 5 inches is as big as I can go, I already have trouble with my Nexus 4 and a case on it.

  • Matt

    Honestly, I don't really see the appeal of something like this for an
    enthusiast over something like a Nexus device. If the hardware is
    better or it comes in at a nice price point, then that's one thing. But otherwise, why not get a Nexus device and just put it on yourself?

    They're equally well-supported and if you choose to try a different ROM, there's a lower barrier to entry (though I have no doubt Oppo will be well-supported by other ROMs as well). I don't really see the built-in CM ROM being a huge factor for the exact audience that would care about it. It reminds me of the built-in wallpapers that the Moto X advertises; it's not really a selling point to include something you can do for free/easily anyway. Here, if Oppo offered an unlocked bootloader and open-sourced everything, uploaded binaries, etc., it's just as good.

    I'm just not entirely clear on the market for a built-in CM ROM, though perhaps they can create that market.

    • PhoenixPath

      The difference in this case, according to AP's last post on this, would be that Steve/CM would have access to the driver source.

      Lots of folks here complaining about CM being buggy, well? This is why CM wants to work directly with the Manufacturer.

  • SetiroN

    There's an option missing for LOL6INCHES.
    Also...

    THE FIND5 ALREADY HAD CM/PA OFFICIAL SUPPORT.

    • Bjajjull

      Small screen = small ..... ;)

      • MindFever

        Yes but too big screen = stupid :) 6" screen at your ear is teh lolz

  • http://www.Nave360.com Sebastian Gorgon

    Nope, couldn't care less.

  • tyguy829

    Where's the "I'm on verizon so I don't get a choice" option

    • xHabeasCorpusx

      I've always wanted to try out an Oppo phone but I've nevinshad the chance because they always go GSM, which is understandable. I'm leaving Verizon this Christmas and heading to Sprint so I'm still SOL. CMdr became stagnant to me anyways and I'm a huge Carbon or PAC man fan instead.

      • dude

        Looking at the stuff they've been coming up lately and their new direction, the last thing I would say is stagnant.

      • Kit Tihonovich

        How could you possibly say CM is stagnant when almost literally EVERYTHING from Carbon comes from another team? I think they've written MAYBE three of their own features. Everything else comes from CM, AOKP, PA. PAC? Yeah. You know where the features come from just by the name of the ROM.

        • Ivan Myring

          He means that they aren't adding anything big (ie halo)

          • Kit Tihonovich

            Call filtering/blocking...
            Extending Chromecast abilities...
            Endless device fixes...

    • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

      You did choose to be on Verizon though ;-)

      Lemme guess, they're the only ones with coverage in your area.

      • http://google.com/+derekross Derek Ross

        Guy with 2G Edge as an "option" here. Yep. Verizon is the only true option in my area.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

          I hate that so many people are in this situation. It's like a monopoly.

          • Matthew Fry

            Considering that without Verizon they'd have terrible signal and slow data connections I'd say they're lucky.

            It's not a monopoly, it's a business strategy. They invest more in their signal than anyone else and charge a premium for the people they spent a lot of money to support. They're not keeping the other carriers from expanding their networks but at (for example) T-Mobile's current pricing structure, they're not going into the boonies any time soon or they'll lose money.

          • Mike Reid

            + You are right.

            But I bet you'll be down-voted by Verizon users who hate that they are "stuck".

            Another option: move to a better served area (or country, LOL).

      • tyguy829

        actually not really. it's through work

        • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

          So you don't have to pay for it then?

          • tyguy829

            I do, but I pay $20 per month for unlimited talk text data. Can't exactly pass that up.

  • guest

    Wheres the No.. I'm not interested in this phone with CM option?

    This poll assumes everyone who flashes ROMS likes CM, and thats really not the case. Especially lately.

    • http://GPlus.to/Abhisshack Abhisshack

      I did not Like CM before it was COOL to not like it ;-)

    • thartist

      Well this story is about CM not the phone

    • PhoenixPath

      The majority of ROMS out there are either *based* on CM or pull heavily from CM's codebase.

      So yeah, most people who flash ROMs like CM...whether they know it or not.

  • ElfirBFG

    Any carrier-free phone with an unlocked bootloader is a good thing. If one of those wants to partner up with a ROM developer, well, that's good news too. I'm sure I've seen Oppo post screenshots of Find5s running Xenon and other ROMs. Even if you don't like CM, this is a good thing.

  • RBI411

    As with most things in this arena price is King. Let's see whether its worthy of a crown or a dunce cap.

  • lensgrabber

    I'm interested in this phone after reading the Find 5 reviews. I'm not necessarily interested in the CM support. I've become a Paranoid Android whore lately. I'm interested in specs and overall dev support, not just CM. If Oppo builds great quality devices and is dev friendly (from what I have been reading they hit both marks) and the specs are there (especially the camera) then that is why I would be interested in this phone. CM support is great but as others have posted, CM would have probably ended up on the device either way. I'm excited to see what tomorrow brings. I hope it's awesome. 5.9 is going to be a bit larger than I want but if everything else is in the package I might just have to learn to live with a larger device.

  • DarrenR

    How about an option for Im interested in OPPO no matter the rom they are using?

  • http://dabuxian.com/ Dabu

    I'm just curious how it'll look like, simply because it's Oppo. Still probably will get a new Nexus anyway, after all I put Google official support over CM team. And it's always unlocked anyway, so I don't see any point, unless the new Nexus happens to be a really bad phone, and the N1 really good one. I doubt though.

  • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

    I wanted it before it was the CM partnership was announced, and official CM support is what pushed this in front of the nexus for me. If it's less than $600, I'm interested.

    It might be unfortunate if the touch back doesn't work on CM though.

  • jramirezw

    Honestly, I don't see how shipping with CyanogenMod is a selling point for the N1. Once the phone is marketed well, has good internals, comes at a very competitive price, and gains enough popularity, CyanogenMod (and any other custom ROM for that mater) should be inevitable.

  • http://GPlus.to/Abhisshack Abhisshack

    AOKP much Better

    • dude

      AOKP might be based on AOSP now, but it takes lots of features on CM and without CM, AOKP would not exists. It's simple as that, and they influence many other projects. Therefore when you say you aren't interested in CM for the Oppo, it means you aren't interested in any custom roms for it whatsoever.

      PS. AOKP is my favorite rom.

      • MindFever

        That is nonsense...im not interested in CM but i am interested in AOKP

        • http://GPlus.to/Abhisshack Abhisshack

          Recently i find mainly AOKP Based "Resurrection Remix ROM" for Samsung Verious Galaxy Phones and Note 2, 3 is even more better than vanilla AOKP ROM

      • http://GPlus.to/Abhisshack Abhisshack

        cognitive dissonance , dude you are having cognitive dissonance

  • lordmerovingian

    Don't see what the fuss is about CM anyway. Grateful to what they've brought to the table over the years to Android, but half the time nothing ever works properly or feels fully baked, from battery life to data issues etc. I might be in the minority on this, but that's how i see it.

    • GraveUypo

      yep, cm was a must up to cm7. i still have it on my defy. but 9 onwards had too many tradeoffs. it never touched my galaxy s3, and even on the defy, cm10 is worse than 7 so there's no point in using it.

      • MindFever

        CM7.1 was a rock on mu SGS1 and it looked amazing

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=708741524 Robb Nunya

        The Galaxy S3 was amazing on CM10. It's even better on the S4, although the Google Edition can be argued for on it as well.

    • thartist

      That's up to drivers dude.

      • MindFever

        Not sure if sarcasm or serious

  • tz

    The last option seems to be rather worthless. If you aren't interested in ROMs, you wouldn't have read the article.

  • dude

    Even if it didn't come with CM support/features, Oppo phones are still worth looking at since they are good build quality and great screen. Also they have unlocked bootloader and easy to root.

    Although I'll probably end up with the Nexus 5 since it'll be more affordable. Unless the build quality of the Nexus 5 is going to be really bad like Samsung Galaxy phones which seems likely this time.

  • dude

    People don't care about CM because some of the features developed by CM and other custom rom teams were picked up and implemented by Google or other manufacturer, ironic.

    • MindFever

      Yeah,power widgets in the pull down...what else though? I cant remember :/

  • Jay

    If the price is right, I think this is the phablet to get. If the One Max and the N1 both have the 600 instead of the 800, I think I'd go with the N1. But, we'll see after both are officially announced.

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    Waiting for the next Nexus, then deciding.

    • Colin Kealty

      pretty much this. if the next nexus doesn't impress (unlikely) then I might look into this more, but for now it's only interesting

      • Matthew

        Well the next Nexus is pretty much the new LG G2, so work with that.

  • William Pickering

    I'm interested only insofar as I wasn't too know how it works out and whether there's a future in it. My nexus 4 has me more than happy for the foreseeable future.

  • Vu Viet Anh

    Funnily enough, I was an avid fan of CM7 on my old Xperia 10 and Motorola Milestones. But when I move to the 4.0+ era (galaxy s3 and currently Xperia Z) AOSP roms just aren't as good as stock Samsung or Sony roms.

    so no. I'm not interested.

  • duse

    Don't really care about custom firmwares anymore. It always ends up becoming a huge unnecessary time sink. Would rather just get the OTA from Google on my Nexus device and not have to fiddle with it at all beyond that. There is always a downside when flashing custom firmwares: either you get the latest version quickly but with only alpha/beta quality (which I grew very tired of on a device I use every day), or you wait for stable builds but then don't get the latest version of Android for months after release (one of the things custom firmwares are trying to help with in the first place). If you just get a Nexus device and stick with stock, then you are up to date almost immediately and with stable quality. I also realized that I don't need any of the customizations they offer - I was just being OCD in wanting to make everything an EXACT certain way. Once you get over that, you will find stock Android 4+ is already pretty great and doesn't need much changing.

    • Kevin Aaronson

      This mirrors my personal experience, I love the support of the development community, but it's roms are just not as stable and useful as the nexus/stock android, something always seems to be broken, especially on Samsung phones. I used to swear by PA till I got a new nexus 7 and left it stock for a while, aside from rooting, there is no reason to modify IMHO.

  • Ryan

    My choice was a little different. I'm interested in seeing a CM based phone, but I have 0 interest in phablet devices that the Oppo N1 is. Yeah, there's a market for phablets, just I'm not part of it. 4.7" is about my top screen size I'd like to see in a phone. Droid X was perfect, Bionic was comfortable to use, Nexus 4 still takes a little to get used to, but my hands are slightly small, so trying to use the N4 with one hand is a bit tricky.

    I'm still interested at least in how this deal will turn out in the end. Maybe CM Inc. might get more hardware support from other OEMs if they can ship the Google Play Services and Suite of apps officially and may be a good alternative compared to the skinned versions of devices, like TouchWiz or Sense or whatever-LG-comes-up-with. (I leave Blur out as its virtually non-existent at this point)

    Though, personally speaking... I'm not sure how I feel about CM Inc. being.. well.. a company. I'm waiting to see more details come out about all this, but I do understand some developers sentiments about selling certain pieces of software for-profit and making them proprietary instead of open-source.

    Like many others, I may stick with a Nexus device due to the open nature of them, or the Moto X which I still intend to buy. Plus, the T-Mobile variant can be unlocked, therefore its like a 'pseudo-Nexus' experience. Might just leave the stock firmware on it for a while and roll with that instead of putting CM like I normally do with my devices. But that's left for another time..

    I do hope everything pans out well for CyanogenMod, but honestly, after being around for many years and countless hours and contributions by small developers and other big names, I don't know what to think about them going for-profit. I guess time will tell.

  • GraveUypo

    there's a distinct lack of "the phone seems interesting to me but not because of CM".
    the pool assumes the only reason for one to be interested in this phone is cm.

  • cvgordo

    i'd get it if it had the snapdragon 800 and tmobile lte..i don' think it has either though :(

  • Mr t

    Depends on $$$ if its over the nexus 5 price, it wouldn't be an option

  • AdamLange

    There is no option in pool : "I'm interested in OPPO phone but not interested in CM"

  • mance

    i'm just hoping the N1 will work with CDMA and LTE

    • MindFever

      CDMA must die

  • Jose Torres

    Definitely won't consider if I can't get SU root out of the box.

  • cool mens

    cyanogenmod

  • markngillespie

    Hardly a representative audience for a unbiased poll....

  • Peter Bognar

    I'd be really interested, but the 5.9" screen is a deal-breaker for me. I want a phone, not a phablet.

  • CommentatusMaximus

    I have a Galaxy Nexus but like all Nexus devices, it lacks an SD card and has other lower grade components (camera). That's fair as the prices are low. Definitely enjoy the ROM support though. My current phone is a Galaxy S4 but with the Exynos processor so there's going to be an issue with support there. So I'm willing to pay more for a higher end product especially and good ROM support is just icing on the cake! I'll give the Oppo a shot at my pocket like any other device out there.

  • sal

    Stay nexus

  • RXG9

    Will they support AT&T or T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+? Almost all of the phones I've read about out of China don't support US bands.

  • anmolm97

    5.9" is way too big!! i'll be going for the Nexus 5..cm will come for it anyway!!

  • tamir

    n1=nemesis1?

  • robert alexander

    I'm ready to buy sight unseen, but I'm also rocking a RAZR right now so... Too bad Verizon won't be getting this, just way too cool for them. Damn you unlimited data!!!

  • dasd

    My option: I am interested but i am getting the Nexus 5

  • Julio DeJesus

    I'm interested in the phone itself..not CM.

  • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

    If I switch carriers, this is very likely to be my next device.

    If not, no, although I still love the idea.

  • afazel

    You're missing the option for "it depends what carriers are supported."

  • jlninja

    No wayin hell Id buy a chinese phone. Bad enough th NSA is following me, no having the communist doing it too.

  • Zack Whitfield

    I would straight buy it if it wasn't a 'phablet'

  • B_Papa_Pump

    Can't do it with no LTE support.

  • Matthew

    Too big but it does looks sexy and exciting. I always buy Nexus but this peeked my interest until I realized the size of it =/

  • FLMJ1G

    No LTE. ZERO interest