17
Sep
vzw nexus 7

Earlier today we reported that Verizon is currently denying owners of the Nexus 7 2013 LTE model the ability to access new data lines on the company's network. We reached out to a Verizon representative for comment, and here's what we got back:

This is not yet a device that is Verizon 4G LTE certified. We’ll let folks know when its certified.

Since that's a little on the vague side we requested some clarification, and received the following additional response.

Yes, we do expect it to get certified. I don’t have a timeframe as I’m still looking into all this but we’ll let people know.

That implies that Verizon is actively testing the Nexus 7 LTE and readying it for new Verizon customers to use. That would make the Nexus 7 LTE the first unlocked, non-Verizon device approved for use on the carrier's network. While we don't have verification on this, it's a possibility that Google and/or ASUS has submitted the N7 hardware for Verizon certification. If you're waiting for some kind of date, prepare to keep waiting: Verizon currently has no requirement (or even much of an economic incentive) to hurry the matter.

Whether or not this will be the first of many non-Verizon devices to be certified (or even considered for certification) remains to be seen. Once Verizon implements voice-over-LTE technology and begins phasing out its CDMA-only devices the company will have to allow unlocked LTE hardware, per the FCC's requirements in the LTE Block C spectrum auction.

Jeremiah Rice
Jeremiah is a US-based blogger who bought a Nexus One the day it came out and never looked back. In his spare time he watches Star Trek, cooks eggs, and completely fails to write novels.
  • invinciblegod

    Just for clarification, isn't the ipad an unlocked, non verizon device with no cdma allowed on their network? That would make this the second device.

    • cjohnson481

      I think the iPad is technically not an unlocked non-VZW device because Apple made them with either ATT or VZW modems only, where the N7 has 1 modem available (post certification from VZW) that would be able to be activated on multiple networks.

  • Roberto Giunta

    If they need as long for this certification as they need for phone updates, you'll be able to officially use the tablet when the new Nexus 7 comes out.

  • Justin W

    Why does it need to be certified? They have to allow it on their LTE network since it's only LTE and it's part of the C Block requirements.

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      Just search this site for a past article regarding that requirement. There's an exemption that Verizon can use.

      • MeCampbell30

        http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/27.16
        There really isn't an exception. It's a huge stretch to say that the Nexus 7 doesn't meet technical standards. If blocking tethering apps was a problem for the FCC, blocking an entire device is way over the line.

        • Evan Jenkins

          well....aren't you going to say OBJECTION? c'mon man you freckin have to with that avatar

          • MeCampbell30

            HOLD IT!

          • Mobile Phones Fan

            Much better. Thx.

  • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

    In the meantime, I think people who really want to use a Nexus 7 on a new Verizon line should just buy a new supported tablet at full price from Verizon, activates a SIM, then return the tablet and keep the SIM and plan. Now, you can use the activated SIM on your Nexus 7, and also leave Verizon with an open box tablet that they can't be sold as new, lowering their profit -- of course, the fact that you are still paying them monthly for the new line will also benefit their bottomline, but read the first sentence of this comment: you really want to use a Nexus 7 on a new Verizon line after all, right?

    • cjohnson481

      Well, doesn't really work that easily. When you return the tablet, you get charged a $70 restocking fee, and they cancel the line when the tablet is returned. So kills the SIM card.

      If Jarvis has the handful of iPads for his family, he should put one of the SIM cards into the N7, then bring the iPad into a store and get a new SIM card and new number for the iPad. Any retail rep would salivate over that.

      Or if he is on a shared data plan, like he says, he has mobile hotspot built in the plan at no charge. Just tether it to that until it's certified. Dude totally over reacted.

      • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

        Some credit cards have return protection that allow you to return a product w/o paying for a restocking fee. Citi charges 4.95/month for such program. You can join it for a month then cancel it next month w/o any penalty.

  • Sean

    "Sure, we'll be happy to certify it for our network, just plaster this logo on the front, back and side, and install these 36 unremovable apps first."

  • MeCampbell30

    Yeah they needed to clarify that support center tweet because it just opened them up to all kinds of lawsuits. It violated the literal language of http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/27.16 and it was anticompetitive. You would think they would talk about these things ahead of time.

  • Roh_Mish

    I still dont get it. Those us carriers take months for testing and then i have seen that they dont have proper connectivity even in cities. In my country, we buy unlocked devices, pop in sim card of any carrier of choice and it just works. And we still get better speeds and full bar connectivity even in far away out of city areas.

    • Stacey Liu

      The US is a much bigger country than most others. Increasing cellular coverage is a logistical nightmare.

      • z0phi3l

        Not that, this is the usual bull verizon pulls because they expect companies to cater to them, I bet if you popped an active VZW sim card into a Nexus it would work without issues, or VZW really screwed up their network, which is possible

        • Sam Hollis

          Pulling it from another tablet or smartphone makes it work and activate just fine.

          A Verizon rep on reddit said that it's a technical issue with their set up machines, as to register a new SIM it requires a number that only CDMA devices have and such. Once Verizon updates their software, it should work fine.

          • mgamerz

            "Once"

            is more like

            "If"

          • Sam Hollis

            They're legally required to. It'll happen.

        • Matthew Merrick

          It does. Look around the internet, many people have gotten it to work just fine.

      • Roh_Mish

        Not just size but India has one of the biggest subscriber base and is not a small country either. I was reading the connectivity section in the verge review of nexus 4 laws week after an link on google plus redirected me there, and I laughed when the word crazy accompanied 25 Mbps. We too have a few CDMA but android devices on their network get update within a week on international update. Most people here still criticise our providers of having crappy network and slow speeds. But I know that one of the greatest nation in world has an even worse mobile situation. When I switched to 3G, I was a bit scared that the 3G signal would not reach within my house but turns out even on 3G I get full bars as those reviews or about ware was from us where they don't get good signal. I reed that a carrier takes 24-48 hours to do it but here all carriers say within 2 hours and at least on Vodafone the changes are made within minutes.

  • danyzfr6

    I went to the Verizon store on pine street in San Francisco. The rep there got a SIM for me, installed it asked me which data plan I wanted and all I had to do was reboot the thing and I was off and running. So, the Nexus 7 does work with Verizon's network. There should be no excuse for them not to activate a SIM card for you.

    • z0phi3l

      Way to go, you just got someone fired

    • Robert Boluyt

      Your Verizon rep didn't get the memo, apparently. :P

  • z0phi3l

    I used to feel sorry for people still letting Verizon screw them over, not anymore, people stay for all the dumbest reasons, you deserve everything they do to you, if people left in droves I guarantee their policies would change real quick

    • Jeremiah Rice

      Verizon is literally the only carrier that works in my house and most of the other areas in my remote location. Believe me, if I could, I'd be gone. And I am certainly not the only Android power user in this particular boat.

      • Sam Hollis

        This is why I was so damn excited about the Moto X.

      • Mobile Phones Fan

        Bingo. And bingo.

        Thing is, it's been a few years and I'm tired of rowing upstream all the time.
        .

    • Asphyx

      Yeah easy to say that but what good is a data contract if there is no service to get the data?
      Thats why Verizon still has customers because they cover more areas than all the other carriers combined! The rest are City coverage and thats about it. If your Rural there is only one game in town.

    • Scott

      If ATT had better coverage I'd be on straight talk pre-paid.

      I also have an unlimited LTE plan so there's that as well.

  • PDQAUTO01

    so as a verizon customer i should be able to get the n7 lte version for christmas 2014
    And if another carrier could give me the coverage i need i would have switched years ago. I still check coverage maps every time my contract comes up for renewal

    • Matthew Merrick

      Or, get it now. Get a Sim for an ipad (or Verizon Android tablet) and just toss it in.

  • Jadephyre

    Hang on, do I understand correctly that at some point there will be no more CDMA Devices from Verizon when they make a full switch to LTE ?

    • blumpenstein

      yes, when they deploy voice over LTE then there will be no more need for CDMA/EVDO and the spectrum can be sold or re-farmed once all existing CDMA/EVDO devices are retired.

  • h4rr4r

    Isn't this in violation of their agreements when they won the 700mhz band auctions?

  • a.d.AM

    These people at Verizon are truly something else.

  • topgun966

    Pft, they are trying to figure out a way on how they can profit off an open device. It works just fine.

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