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When Apple buys a company, you have to expect any associated Android apps are going to bite the dust. Indeed, that appears to be the situation with the popular public transit app HopStop, which was bought by Apple a few months ago. The Windows Phone app (yes, it had a Windows Phone version) disappeared first, and now it's Google Play's turn to feel the sting of an Apple acquisition.

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HopStop offers detailed bus, train, subway, taxi, walking, and biking directions in real time. It also has official transit maps for 600 cities around the world. The app uses crowd-sourced data to work out the real time aspect of directions through a service called HopStop Live. It just so happens everything this app does is what Apple needs help with when it comes to Apple Maps.

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So now the URL for the Android app is dead, as is the listing on HopStop's website. However, the app was killed so recently it still shows up in the Google search index. The service doesn't even work for those who still have the app installed. A sad day, but not unexpected.

[Thanks, Samuel Dionne]

Ryan Whitwam
Ryan is a tech/science writer, skeptic, lover of all things electronic, and Android fan. In his spare time he reads golden-age sci-fi and sleeps, but rarely at the same time. His wife tolerates him as few would.

He's the author of a sci-fi novel called The Crooked City, which is available on Amazon and Google Play. http://goo.gl/WQIXBM

  • Nick Saulino

    That title gave me a good laugh. Thanks.

  • Craig Trunzo

    KICKING MY ASS IN MARKET SHARE?! NO WAY!

    AND NO, MY NEW CASE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE FREAKING CONNECT-4

    I'M TAKING MY HOPSTOP AND GOING HOME

    FFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUU

  • Jdban

    Someone want to post the apk? :P

    • Wyatt Neal

      the apk is going to be worthless without the backend servers doing the work for you

      • Jdban

        In the short term, they'd probably work still unless they killed them already. No way to know without the apk

        • http://tsurufoto.com/ Aaron Tsuru

          I have this app & just tested it. it does not work anymore. it gives you a message that it doesn't support android anymore.

    • DanSan

      yea somebody throw up that apk!

      unless they killed it from the back end

  • Duckie1217

    They can have it.

  • aNYthing6

    Transit App (http://bit.ly/1ckgFEz) is better anyway.

    • remister

      I have it installed also. It's really good.

    • Freak4Dell

      Thanks for the alternative. I had just settled on HopStop as a decent app after trying a few others, so it's pretty annoying that it disappeared like this.

      • didibus

        Can't Google Maps do all this anyway? Search for a destination and put in Transit as your type

        • Freak4Dell

          Yeah, it does. Sometimes the apps have some extra features that Maps doesn't have. For instance, HopStop had a built in subway map for NYC, so I could pull that up while I'm on the train and have no service. Maps wouldn't be able to pull up information without a data connection. I used both Maps and Hopstop because it's nice to have a backup just in case.

        • Brian Daniels

          Transit app will give you multiple routes/departure times. You can also set your departure time or the time you want to arrive by and it will tell you when you need to leave.

          • Lawats Lord

            Maps can do that too

          • didibus

            That's true, Google maps used to have that also, but I can't find it anymore

        • remister

          It has real time GPS locations of when buses arrive at the bus stop. Google is based on time schedules for now.

        • Joel Berry

          Hopstop factors in service stoppages for construction / accidents. This is critical because, as any New Yorker knows, many lines get shut down for repairs on weekends, overnight, even during the day.

          Google maps, at least in NYC, will tell you to take routes that are not actually in service.

          Shortsighted and mean-spirited move by apple. They cut their potential advertising base in half by pulling hopstop for android. Lame. Just like using proprietary chargers instead of USB, and charging exorbitant markups on memory, Apple continues to harm consumers.

  • Eddy

    anyone need it here ya go http://apkboys.com/download/hopstop.apk

    • Freak4Dell

      The service no longer works, even if you have the app installed. Trying to get directions just gets me a message saying HopStop no longer supports the Android platform.

  • nvillaco

    This move by Apple really highlights the difference in philosophies between the two tech giants... Google shares a monster of an app in Google Maps. Yet Apple won't even share their Hopstop. I know Google makes money with GMaps ads on as many phones as possible but still... I think its easy to see that in the mobile "war" that Apple loves to instigate (whether in app ownership or in the courts), Google just wants all consumers to be happy. We can bicker back and forth as to which platform is better between android and iOS but in the end, I'll be happy that I'm on the the good guys' side.

    Besides, we all know who's winning anyway.

    • Joseph Cascio

      Wasn't Google attacked from some lawsuit about being anti-competition because they weren't providing their apps to other OSs while making them "mandatory" on Android? I don't remember the exact details but how is Apple removing an app from the Google Play Store because they purchased it not anti-competitive? How many Apple apps are available on the Google Playstore. How many apps are included in iOS preinstalled? What is going on in the tech world?

      • Jake

        It's because most people are scared to oppose apple

      • Roger Siegenthaler

        Because non of the Apple apps have a chance at building a monopoly, Google Maps is a seriously potent app that could become a monopoly in the (free) mapping market especially if it's preinstalled on 80% of the new handsets going out the door. That's called anti-trust iirc and Apple doesn't stand in the same position :P.

      • http://www.lcpint.com/ Lorenzo Cascio Palmieri

        Oh please man! We have the same surname but I live in Italy!!! Love that! :D

    • Toblerone

      Google isn't releasing their apps to WP...

      • PhilNelwyn

        ...

        • hot_spare

          Old data. And "US-only" data. More like 79% Android for last Q according to IDC.

          • PhilNelwyn

            Market share, right?
            This is Web usage statistics, not market share.
            Besides, the point is Windows Phone stats, you get the idea... ;-)

      • Mark

        Nobody uses windows phone, it's a dead OS, so who cares.

        • BIAS

          People do, I don't mind if I'm the only one In a crowd of iPhones in middle of NYC, but I've been seeing more of these during rush hour. Reminds me of how Android rose to popularity. A few of my classmates have them too... Worldwide WP is winning in some markets, leading IOS, right after Google. Look it up. The US is the tough crowd for WP.

        • Blaze Blue

          Dip shit the os is not dead, or we couldn't say that it is selling. I also like the idea that MS is cashing in on android phones.

      • Jose Torres

        Isn't that more because Microsoft's lack of cooperation for Google's request to have those apps written in HTML5, among others?

        • Dragonzord

          Excuses, Google's YouTube apps aren't written in pure HTML5. It's just a causality of the new Google. Back in the day, they would support as many platforms as possible, but today they are being a protective corporation like Microsoft of the past

    • mobilemann

      lol @nvillaco:disqus

      the war is only real in the eyes of children, in reality, tons of people are like me, i rock a note 3, by samsung, a corporation who has been pretty shameless in the past, been convicted of corruption, bribery etc.

      I also own an ipad mini, by a company who was one of the driving forces behind the patent wars.

      Also, i'm not so incredibly naive to think google only wants my happiness. In reality, they want my meta data, because they can sell it. This lends to a model of getting your apps out to a variety of platforms, which makes me question why google's done it's own mean actions.

      what about Windows Phone's youtube app? MS re-wrote it twice, made sure ads were added, (although i heard there were problems) and google still rejected them, which was a little big brother of them.

      In the real world, they are all just corporations, vying for our attention. To be a cheerleader for one and not use the others just makes you a luddite.

      Have a good day.

    • BIAS

      Google isn't the "good guy" just remember what they're doing to MS with denying WP access to YouTube! Sure 3rd party apps work better than the real deal, but the message is clear here...

  • ari_free

    Yay thanks for giving us another reason to hate you, Apple

  • Tomáš Petrík

    How come Google creates almost all their apps for both Android and iOS and yet there is literally no Android app by Apple?

    • mrjayviper

      I doubt you can find the answer in any forum. why not ask Apple management?

      • Enes Taşdemir

        I used to have an iPhone and I have used neither iMessage nor Facetime.

        • mrjayviper

          could it be because you don't have any friends with an iDevice? Sending sms to my friends with an iPhone automatically becomes an iMessage. And with facetime, it's an easy way to talk to family/friends as it's already available. This was before I ditched by iDevices for android.

          But just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's not useful to thousand/million others.

          • mobilemann

            it makes me sad you can't talk about competitors platforms on this platform without just slamming them.

            All platforms have things to learn from others. The kids who comment here, are mostly just incredibly insecure.

    • anzensepp1987

      I cannot think of any Apple-App that I would need on my Android-devices...

      • Albin Hermansson

        iMessage, FaceTime???

        • Ketan B. Parmar

          Whatsapp, Hangouts

          • http://regis.decamps.info/ Régis

            If Apple had released iMessage for Android on day one, I'm pretty sure Whatsapp, Tango, Viber, Line and others wouldn't exist today.

          • Ketan B. Parmar

            that's different story and pretty anti apple tactic

        • Mike

          Hangouts works cross platform. You can get it on iOS. Why would anyone want a dumb messaging system that only communicates with other iPhone users? That's insane.

          • Joris Griffioen

            we're talking about making an app cross-platform and your counter argument is that it is not cross-platform?

          • mobilemann

            seriously, and even with this insane gap in logic, he get's 21 up? the hive mentality is incredibly stupid.

          • doddlepoop

            thought he was responding to the need for 2 apple apps by albin

          • Boris

            Same was probably said by many about BBM

          • mobilemann

            my god @557d47c35a59b05cebc2ff7f12a8d239:disqus what did logic ever do to you?

            If you got it, it would be android compatible, and intergrate with sms. Facetime is 4x better than hangouts video chat in terms of working, the first time, and not having to reconnect 2x.

          • mrjayviper

            had trouble using hangouts recently on my Note2 and Tablet Z. It won't do video calls on wifi. only on cellular (tablet Z tethering to my note2). definitely not facetime quality.

        • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

          Nope. Zero need for either of those on my Android. Whatsapp, Hangouts (soon BBM) and Skype - more options than anyone could need.

        • cmon man

          you do know android has other versions of those apps ten times over

    • Dragonzord

      It has to do with their business model, Apple is a hardware company, Google is software

  • master94

    Knowing Apple, they will find a way to make this great app suck. And than sue every map app. Die Apple, you suck.

  • http://techie-buzz.com keithdsouza

    I just downloaded Hopstop to my device from Google Play, the URL is still up and working

  • Daldain

    : I'm taking the ball that I just bought and going home.

  • BFS

    This kind of attitude from apple its just one more reason for me never to buy any apple product. I wont ever give any of my money to a company like apple.

  • Matthew Fry

    Oh. This gives me bad memories of Lala. Good thing they bought them cause iTunes is much better

  • jimmyg

    android pull YouTube come on f**** them pull anything Google stop trying to help them survive they don't want you google! google thEy Want bing don't you get it. if they can get rid of Google they would how stupid are you start fighting back

    • Joris Griffioen

      Google is a service and ad company. They are not supporting iOS by having their products there, they are supporting themselves. By pulling YT or anything they are only shooting their own foot and that of their users (customers). And all it would do is give Apple a reason to say "see, Google can't be trusted, use our stuff!"

      • ari_free

        Yeah, Google will just have to fight back in other ways. The way to do is push android on so many devices that you can't ignore it, even if you like the iphone. Build it in your car, TV and refrigerator. Everything.

    • Ash

      Apple has pulled Maps and Youtube themselves in the past. Makes no difference to them.

  • jimmyg

    what Google and Android don't understand is the fact that it if Apple can get rid of Google they would they would love to get rid of Google why does Google keep helping them survive giving them their Google stuff stop being stupid Google

    • mrjayviper

      Google is mainly an ad company and there are millions of iOs users willing to spend their money on those merchants/companies using Google ad services.

      • Joris Griffioen

        Yep. People forget that Google and Apple are very different companies with different main products to push. Google is a service company, for them to pull a service is not the same as Apple pulling a service because it's their main business.

  • Sir_Brizz

    This app looked decidedly built for iOS anyway.

  • Rolf

    Isn't it rather stupid to take an app that is using "crowd-sourced data" away from a major part of the crowd?

    • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

      Who needs crowd-sourced data when you got Apple maps? Oh wait....

      • The Phenom

        Score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • davido474

    Ok, Google your turn.
    It's time to take waze from the app store...

    • mrjayviper

      not gonna happen. I've read articles that says iOS Google apps are updated first before those changes trickle down to Google's own Android app.

      Like how people were praising the UI changes made by Google to the iOS version while it took months/weeks before those changes happened on the Android version.

      • Primalxconvoy

        Indeed. Tynes why I've found, from talking to my ios using friends, that Google apps tend to be better on ios than Android...

        • mrjayviper

          like how the gmail version was better on iOS before the android version got uodated and maps too

      • Mike

        Maybe you should live in reality instead of reading articles. The occasions when iOS Google apps are updated before the Android version are few and far between. And for things like Google now, they're incredibly gimped.

        • mrjayviper

          I don't have an iOS device to play around with, :)

        • j¤n Gårrëtt [5,000+]

          some Google apps for iOS do get more love from Google than their own Android children.

  • http://tech.gtaero.net/ Navarr Barnier

    Did Apple/HopStop notify the app users at all before the app just magically stopped working?

    • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

      Nope. They didn't think it was necessary. Dicks be dicks.

      • Joris Griffioen

        That's such a low, low move. Really childish.

        It's all their business that they want to make it iOS only (I don't like it, but fine), but not notifying customers that might be reliant on it to get to work is as you say a dick move.

        It's sucha low amount of trouble too .. just throw out a mailing "Hey we're stopping Android support by then and then, cheers", they didn't even respect their users enough to take 5 minutes for that.

      • mobilemann

        what do you think about the youtube app for WP7/8?

        3rd times the charm? dicks to be dicks?

        Just wondering.

        • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

          If you're talking about MS flouting Google's TOS repeatedly, then sure...

          • mobilemann

            you don't think their requirement for MS, to build in HTML 5 is fair considering they pulled HTML 5 apps for iOS and built them from the ground up?

            MS also rebuilt the app to make sure ads were showing etc.

            It's business. The only person who really ends up looking stupid, is the one who thinks a corporation is really looking out for them as a user.

          • Damien

            Google didn't pull their apps from iOS, Apple removed them.

          • mobilemann

            what?

  • hgfhkjfgkjg

    The best feature of hopstop over google maps was that they get service updates from the agency regarding delays, closures and construction etc. "Transit app" does a good job finding routes, but I don't think it does this. Any alternatives?

  • Thomas Ramsay

    Google and Windows should pulled all their apps from the itunes app store, since Apple doesn't play fair and never make a app for Android or Windows phone like Google and Microsoft do for Apple

    • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

      Google wants everybody using their services... They don't care how childish Apple is by pulling apps from their play store... Apple is at war with Android, Google isn't at war with Apple... That's the funniest thing about the two...

  • Jose Torres

    If anything, this would give Google more passion to fill in the hole that HopStop left, thus building up their portfolio and credibility. Wouldn't it be wiser for Apple to leave the app available and at least have a presence on the app store? Give less features to users on competing OS's to give iOS an edge that way?

    Oh well, I guess Apple isn't about making smart moves, which is EXACTLY why Android has become so prevalent in the technology landscape in the first place.

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  • Harry Graul

    I have the fantastic luck of living out in the tullies where public transportation is completely unknown, so this doesn't rattle my life in any fashion. It sure does show Apple's attitude off in living color though. Their conceit is epic. I still remember how they came close to dying and were kept afloat by forced help from Bill Gates and the gang at Microsoft. Apparently they don't.

  • http://www.onewomansstyleevolution.com/ Natasha @OneWomansStyle

    This totally and completely sucks! I was in New York City yesterday with my little Connecticut self when I realized this. The google map thing has some direction issues and hop stop has been my go to for the longest. I guess, it's back to printing off directions and/or bury my head in actual maps from this point forward.

  • dos

    Apple gets none of my money.

  • http://tech.gtaero.net/ Navarr Barnier

    Hilariously, their Android Page continues to exist.

    https://www.hopstop.com/?action=mobile_android

  • Gothamite

    I love how the Progressives seethe to Apple and thing that it is the greatest and most humble company ever yet they're too stupid to see what it is.

  • kiana love

    wow this really shakes my belief in Apple. I have a mac, an ipod & an android phone & I can't believe the would take away people's ability to have the great directions of hopstop. Makes me more of a fan of google who would never do that. I guess its google map for me. :(

  • SoS

    this is the most f***** uP thing that could ever happen to anybody that owns android cell phone andTakespublic transportation especially if you move from New York to California. this is extremely serious business whoever decided this was a good fucking idea literally needs to go f*** themself because they obviouslydon't understand there are so many reasons why this app Is important and the reason why people even use this app in the first place shouldnt matter if you're an Apple user this was like an emergency preparedness app this is seriously the most inconvenient thing that could ever happen. there are a lot of people who needs access to information like this because a lot of places don't come up even if you are using your GPSnow Google takes your personal information just because you need directions Wtf thats f****** b******* Hopstop has been the most reliable transportation finder in the App Store and I really did like to move by pulling that away from customers who actually need it to survive. people could get lost Or strandedI am so disappointed in this business move I hope a lot of people complain because this is Is just complete BS. if there are any other apps that are just like this please let me know because I would rather pay for that Than pay for a f****** iPhone thank you

  • RC

    Greedy Apple! I will try never to buy apple products because of moves like this

  • red_greenlight1

    Thank good for google maps but hop stop was the best for getting around weekend constitution. Isn't this highly anti-competitive? Reminds me of the shit Microsoft used to pull in the 90's.

  • Blaze Blue

    Nokia has a way better app then this. Just don't need it.

  • Damien

    It really makes you wonder...If Windows didn't hold 80% of the desktop market, would Apple pull iTunes/Quicktime from Windows and force people with iDevices to only use OSX? Not far fetched I think...

  • datgrrl

    Just found this posting, trying to figure out where the heck Chicago went on the app. Even on the website, the entire city of Chicago appears to be missing, and no ability to map to CTA "El" routes. What the heck? Really annoys me, I had really loved and depended on HopStop in a pinch for navigating cities. If you go to Chicago.hopstop.com it defaults to NYC now, for some reason.

  • booboo

    Apple's main revenue stream is phone sales.
    Google's main revenue stream is ads

    That explains everything