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LG made a last minute amendment to the documentation for the Verizon edition of the G2 yesterday, which is model number LG-VS980. No big deal, right? Except someone at the FCC or LG seems to have screwed this one up, but in our favor. Images of an LG device are attached to the application. These are usually held back until a device is released, but these aren't images of the G2 for Verizon. They appear to be the upcoming Nexus – the LG D820. Both internal and external photos are included, and the components are clearly labeled D820. It's a little blurry, but we're not complaining.

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The overall shape of the device is what we saw in the Google KitKat statue video, and the design language screams "Nexus." There is a 2300mAh battery in the pictures, which matches the leaks. There is a top headphone jack and a bottom microUSB, but the G2 has both ports on the bottom edge. The FCC shots show the device opened up, but that doesn't mean the final device will have a removable back. There is also a strange notch cut out at the top of the back plate – this is clearly not final hardware. That big camera module is present, but it looks like the lens itself is rather small, surrounded by a metal ring.

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The back appears to be a soft touch material, but this is likely a temporary cover. Again, this is not final hardware. There is no giant Nexus logo emblazoned on the device, so the back portion could be completely different when it is released. The FCC gets to dig around inside of devices, so we even get a little teardown of the D820. There are definitely some wireless charging and NFC bits in there too. Unfortunately, the images are too blurry to make out part numbers.

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The FCC will probably be notified of the mistake by an irate Google or LG rep soon. In case the documents are removed, we've mirrored them below.

Internal Images Mirror

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[FCC, via PhoneScoop]

Ryan Whitwam
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  • TY

    What is that circle under the camera and LED flash? A speaker without grills?

    • SetiroN

      The vibration motor.

      • TY

        I see. Where's the speaker , then? I can't find it... Could it be because it's a prototype?

        • guest

          on the bottom, if you look closely you can see holes like in lg g2.

          • TY

            *Smells the monitor* It's so blurry I can't see the holes at all. Bottom speakers are fine, though.

        • SetiroN

          Beside the usb port you can see two amplification chambers orientated to the bottom side, a small one for the microphone and a larger one for the speaker; both are located on the opposite side of the PCB, but you can see the soldering points.

  • Rinkesh621

    If I can recall correctly, was Vic Gundotra saying next Nexus will focus on Camera and they were in talks in Nikon???

    Anyone remember that?

    • TY

      "We are committed to making Nexus phones insanely great cameras. Just you wait and see."

      • newsjunkieintl

        and people SPECULATED Nikon and Canon for no reason.

  • Pascal

    Looks nice,

  • Phil Oakley

    Hope it doesn't have a glass back.

  • Todd

    Does anyone see a simcard tray in these pictures?

    • Humberto Hernandez

      Not final HW

      • SetiroN

        At the FCC? -.-'

    • TY

      Last 9 pics, back of the main board.

  • Alvinpck

    i have a very strange theory. What if this is the sprint version of the G2 being that the sprint version doesnt come out until October and sprint does have a history of changing the form factor of their phones from different carriers. (i.e. the galaxy s2 epic 4g touch)

    • Christopher Bement

      The bezel and shape absolutely scream Nexus. I'd say the chances of this being anything but are slim to none.

  • NEXUS 4

    Nexus 4 look way better than this one

    • QwietStorm

      How?

      • Christopher Bement

        Because he wanted something he could shatter...

  • hyperbolic

    Looking good, let's hope the hardware won't disappoint us.

  • Steve Freeman

    Until it's official, I'm betting this isn't a Nexus. I HOPE Verizon gets another one, but I'm not holding my breath.

    • Christopher Bement

      All you have to do is look at the bezels and the shape of the glass. It's obviously a nexus, and if I'm wrong Art Russ will splatter a pie in his face.

  • Kenny Griffin

    The measurements are pretty similar to my GS3. This shall be my next phone.

  • SetiroN

    HOLY OPTICAL STABILISATION MOLY

  • DanielHedgecock

    Curious as to what the black square center top of device is?

    • edddieeeee

      I'm thinking it's a slit to easily open up the phone, as it probably won't have a removable back.

    • Rolo P

      Some are thinking IR blaster??

  • br_hermon

    Welp, looks like they just spoiled iFixIt's party...

  • navjot

    Where are the speakers?

    • eliseo

      right... Where are the speakers?

      • nxym

        below the volume rockers

        • eliseo

          Thanks... Do you mean the power button?

      • Liviu Sas

        you can see the speakers on the left side .. there is a small grill

    • creutzfeld

      under the volume rocker on the left side. Third photo, that thing coming out of the shadow

      • TY

        That would be a stupid, stupid placement... And judging by the internal photos, there isn't any place for the speaker at that position.

    • TY

      Hmm...
      Could it be hidden inside the silver rectangle in the lower piece of plastic inside the phone?

    • Chris

      Most likely on the bottom.

    • Alexei Watson

      Can't spot a speaker on the internal photos. getting confused.. pre-release focusing on wireless specs?

    • Alexei Watson

      I think the item in the upper left of this photo houses the speaker.

      If you rotate it around so the screw holes line up, you can see where a grill should be on the bottom edge of the phone, however, the photo of the bottom is so unclear due to focus and reflection of the camera. That's my best guess.

      http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/nexusae0_2013-09-12-10_37_52-https___apps.fcc_.gov_eas_GetApplicationAttachment.html_id2041456.png

    • Jake

      It might be here: http://i.imgur.com/2HSlHxo.jpg

      But I'm not too sure.

    • fonix232

      Just under the camera and the flash, that circular stuff on the backplate (and the black-orange plate under the flash, with the two contacts).

  • http://www.modminecraft.com/ Nick Coad

    Is there confirmation that this is actually the next Nexus? I mean, I know you can see it's a D820, but when did we learn that the D820 is, without question, the next Nexus phone?

    • Zargh

      D820's FCC filing says it was tested with a Key Lime Pie build, and numerous concrete sources including the BBC's behind the scenes KitKat story confirm that KLP was 4.4's original intended name before they switched it to Kit-Kat.

      We know from EV-leaks that the D821/other G2's are testing with Jelly Bean, which rules out the possibility of it just being a Google Play edition fluke.

      • http://www.modminecraft.com/ Nick Coad

        Ah cool, thanks - nice summary :)

  • Santeri

    That seems like a fairly thick phone as much as I can make out of it. Thought that if it has 2300 mah battery it will be very thin atleast.. We'll see.

  • Danny Holyoake

    Can anyone tell where the speakers are from the internal photos? Still hoping for bottom speaker...

    • John Bailey

      Yes, the speaker is on the bottom rear of the device. It's that black rectangular thing with the silver on it. The round thing below the camera is the vibrate motor. I take phones apart all day for a living so you can rest assured I know what I'm talking about and people can quit asking where the damn speaker is lol... :D

  • Rolo P

    Guessing no removable back due to the tab sticking out on top of the battery.

  • iandouglas

    According to some detective work by a reader at phandroid, this wasn't a "last minute" change, it was filed back on August 13th, http://phandroid.com/2013/09/12/lg-nexus-5-fcc-rumor/#comment-1040542064

  • Demi

    Anyone else go to the FCC link and notice that the photos in question have a filing date of 8-13-13, same as every other G2 doc? D820 docs were filed 8-8-13. I can't find anything filed RECENTLY to suggest a "last minute change".

  • Niall Till

    i hope its just the blurry images or incomplete phone but i cant see any speekers?

    • Humberto Hernandez

      Is that a question?

    • Ryan Gabbard

      They look to be at the bottom, very hard to tell in the blurry pics.

  • Christophe Ha

    Please please I want an awesome camera, on par with the S4 is OK for me.
    The most important is battery life though.

    • Ugslick

      G2s camera is superior to S4's (by quite a bit too)

      • Greyhame

        From the samples I've seen, they definitely look awesome! I hope this is the phone that finally takes me away from Verizon!

        • Trueislander

          Or keep you there with a radio that supports their CDMA freq.

          • Greyhame

            If a Nexus happens again, I would stay. Without one, I'm not interested. Let's just say I'm not holding my breath on that possibility.

  • Dohhh

    2300mah doh??? Y U NO 3450mah!

    • Scott

      3300 should be minimum.

    • Bob G

      If it is optimized to the max, it could be enough.

      • HopelesslyFaithful

        small test battery? we can hope

      • MO

        Or they could just throw in a bigger battery and stop saying IF and COULD be enough.

      • rxbot

        to the maxx

      • E1

        Blasphemy !!!
        No such thing as enough mAh !

      • TY

        HTC One approves.
        Though 3000mAh would be much better, we shouldn't worry too much about 2300.

    • simp1istic

      Why stop there, why not 5000mah?

      • Gandalf_Teh_Gray

        I prefer my power levels to be OVER 9000!!!

        • ilCabo

          O...o...o...over 9000?!

          • Christopher Bement

            I so wanted to post the video of Oprah responding to 9000 penises but I think Art would ban my face off.

  • Fyi

    Anyone else notice there is more space underneath the screen than above it when looking at it horizontally? Could mean the home, back and multitasking keys are built into the hardware like the back and home buttons on the Galaxy s4? Not physical keys as such but under the surface.

    • GreenyO

      No.

    • Ugslick

      The N4 had the same design...
      No physical keys on Nexus devices though..

  • kwurk kwurk

    In the very first photo with the face of the phone, the only object in focus is the camera they used to take the photo. When will the FCC learn to take good photos?
    The build looks very industrial/Motorolish. I hope the final design looks better than this.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Seriously. I mean, sure, the camera will focus like that in Auto, but if you have a test setup, switch it to manual focus and take the pictures. It can't be a new thing for them - it's not the first phone or tablet to have a reflective glass display. Sigh...

      • http://AndroidPolice.com/ Liam Spradlin

        What's worse to me is that that was the photo they went with. Even a 0.5 second in-camera GLANCE would reveal that it was a shoddy photo, but whoever was shooting thought "eh that's a good one"

        • Nick

          The problem is there is probably one guy doing this job. He has to photograph 100 different pieces of equipment a day, so he whips through it as fast as possible. If some shots are blurry, he probably doesn't really care. He probably doesn't really care about the technology at all, he's just there to do his job (albeit not that well it would appear).

      • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

        The point is -- they are supposed to keep these photos as references, may be to examine the device. With such blurry photos, I have my doubt that someone would actually do any serious examinations!

    • marvy

      Or they intend to make it out of focus and blurry ;)

    • Christopher Bement

      On the plus side the photo gives away that it is a true nexus. Look at the shape and the bezel, it's unmistakable.

  • fonix232

    What the hell is that seemingly mPCIe card in the first internal pictures? Some kind of wireless of course, but it isn't used in the device at all... Or is it related to the RF measurements?

  • Andrew

    So, camera module is not bigger than usual. Glad that is settled. Too many people got their hope too high.

  • Cielmerlion

    Im pissed they didnt go with a 3000 battery. I assume its to cut costs but wft, I want great battery life dammit, especially if I cant have replaceable batteries.

    • QwietStorm

      The Snapdragon 800 is supposed to have great battery optimization, isn't it? Android 4.4 might also do some new things.

      • newsjunkieintl

        also, LG is implementing some new battery-saving graphics ram technology.

        • QwietStorm

          I thought that was just part of the G2 ROM?

  • Luis Augusto Fretes Cuevas

    I just hope the battery isn't final, 2,300 mAh is pretty low, my SGS4 has a 2,600 mAh, same size and is thinner. It doesn't have to be gigantic, just a bit bigger.

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      That 300mAh extra juice is probably needed to power all those S4 bloatware. In real world, there may not be any differences.

  • Mystery Man

    Waiting for this phone but if 2300mah Im out.

  • Guest

    Removable back in 4th picture?

  • Dheeraj

    Could that notch cut-out be the fingerprint reader? Really bad placement, but probably not unreachable. What do you think?

    • Greg Nelson

      It'd be ideal placement, pick up your phone and swipe your index finger on the top middle of the back of the phone.....that'd be rock and freaking roooooollllll!!!

      • Dheeraj

        Well, too bad. I made a mistake. If you look closely, there's nothing behind the cut-out. Sorry. :)

        • Greg Nelson

          It's not final hardware yet, we can still dream....

  • MeCampbell30

    Apparently someone doesn't know how focus works.

    • Nick

      Those pictures were murdering my eyes. That was horrible.

    • Christopher Bement

      Especially with a camera of that caliber, even using autofocus would have produced great pictures. This person was obviously a slob. Doesn't matter, had Nexus. =D

  • Amir

    aw sheet! game over iFone, well game over!

  • sj

    You guys bitch way too much

  • Wyatt Neal

    For a moment I was all like "OMG! Verzion is getting a Nexus 5!!!" ... and then reality sunk in and I thought "Eff this, if VZW _did_ get a Nexus 5, I wouldn't buy it from them because It wouldn't _really_ be a nexus."

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      If the choice is only between a handicapped Nexus, or a handicapped skinned Android phone. I don't know about you, but I will rather have a handicapped Nexus.

      • Wyatt Neal

        I've learned my lesson and It's full Nexus all the way or it's nothing. If the phone is pretty spectacular when it comes out, I will gladly walk away from Verzion for it, especially with the recent customer service pains they have put me through. Sure I'll give up my unlimited data, but you know what, I'll probably actually have service in my house again.

  • Hans Gruber

    Wow...
    I was hoping the initial FCC docs were wrong and it didnt have 2300mah...
    But if it's a snapdragon 800 with 1080p screen and only 2300mah?
    Yeah, sony Z1 has similar specs and with a 3000mah batt they give it 13 hours talk time...
    I can't see this thing lasting half a day :|

    • Laurentiu

      That's really bad news!!!
      2300mAh is way to small battery for today phones. It should be 3000mAh as G2.
      My N4 is lasting half a day with moderate-hard use. I need a better battery...
      :(((

  • rasty++

    no speaker on the front? that both the slot behind?

  • RXG9

    Please have a removable back/battery.

    • firesoul453

      i wish

  • Laurentiu

    Only band 4 and 13 for LTE???
    That's Verizon LTE bands...

    What about European LTE bands 3 and 7?
    Are they missing from a Nexus device?
    I doubt that!

    • dcdttu

      This is a FCC filing. They won't list bands that aren't used in the US and therefore don't need to be tested. Keep in mind this is just a FCC test filing, not a filing of the phone's entire capabilities.

      • kh5

        As I understand it, the documents and specs are for the Verizon G2, but they accidentally attached the pictures of the D820.

        • dcdttu

          Right. And even if it were the correct filing, it doesn't necessarily mean all bands will be listed. The FCC doesn't test the foreign bands.

  • Tinky

    Dont think it's final. Camera module looks identical to n4, but design overall looks like it will house a bigger sensor. If they don't stick to their word and don't improve camera...
    1. I'll be pissed off (lies)
    2. I simply definitely won't buy it as it become a minor upgrade on my n4

    I was hoping for two things, bigger battery, substantially bigger not a mere 200mAh and a good camera.

    • Benjamin Pavel

      I think this time they got the camera better, as Vic Gundotra said that they are committed making Nexus phones "insanely great cameras".
      And on the outside that camera looks SICK!
      Let's keep our fingers crossed :P

    • dextersgenius

      I think the Snapdragon 800 chip alone is worth it.. this is the famous chip that everyone have been waiting for - the chosen one, as it's known in some circles.

      The 800 makes it a true world phone with multi-carrier LTE, pentaband HSDPA, quadband GSM, dual-band WiFi with 802.11ac; GPS with GLONAS + GNSS + Indoor navigation; overall lower power consumption (HPm, aSMP); active low-power microphone chip; 75% faster charging rate; USB 3.0... need I go on?

  • Mike

    Does this mean that the next Nexus is likely to come to Verizon?

  • Carl

    I'm hoping this means a Verizon variant will be coming out!

  • NOTE 3

    win fail

  • rxbot

    Anyone else think these aren't accidents? KitKat pics right before iPhone announcement and again the day before you can order one?
    Apologies if already mentioned. I skimmed the comments. I admit it.

  • Moses

    Correct me if im wrong but I think the nexus 5 will have horrible battery life if these rumors are true. The Nexus 4 Had a 2100 mah battery with a smaller lower resolution screen and battery life was average.

    • Benjamin Pavel

      The life of a battery does NOT depend solely on capacity of battery, it's also important if hardware (CPU, graphic etc.) is a BIG battery hog or not. :)

    • someone755

      Uncerclock it, say I. Or turn it off and have an expensive paperweight. Or, if you're THAT guy that only complains about battery, buy yourself an old Nokia.

  • HorrorBiz

    Where's the speaker(speakers, maybe)located? Don't see it anywhere

  • http://www.deveyra.com/ Ronaldo Roberto De Veyra

    Believe me, this LG "screw up" is 100% intentional, most likely orchestrated by LG or Google themselves, to create a hype and increase demand before it's even marketed.

  • https://plus.google.com/117835128512042732749/ Tyler

    They've been deleted by the FCC xD

  • Jake

    Anyone else notice the lack of ear piece?

    • Christopher Bement

      This phone requires you to get a bluetooth implant in your brain which pairs you with the phone for the duration of it's SIM life. When you make or receive a call, your thoughts translate to dictation software in the device and you come out sounding like Hawking to the person on the other end. Fancy stuff. Exciting times we are living in.

  • mauswe

    Dat auto focus

  • mcored

    Can anybody explain how http://google.com/producer/s/CBIwi4iApgQ redirects to this page?