07
Sep
nexusae0_Galxy-Note3_031_set2

A great thing about new flagship phones is that they usually come packed to the brim with new technologies we can get excited about. The Galaxy Note 3, announced a few days ago, is no exception. While Samsung made a point of featuring Category 4 LTE with Carrier Aggregation, which can achieve 150 Mbps, the company neglected to mention the Note 3 also includes the Qualcomm QFE1100 chipset which should significantly reduce power consumption and heat associated with the LTE radio.

Qualcomm achieves these enhancements in the QFE1100 by using a technology called Envelope Tracking. Essentially, the hardware tracks changes in the radio frequency and adjusts the power amplifier accordingly. Unlike traditional methods which perpetually run at full power, or those that only adjust the level when the radio is barely active, this technology can limit power usage only to what is necessary at the moment of transmission. This not only reduces the amount of energy consumed for communication, but also significantly reduces leftover power that is needlessly converted into excess heat. Qualcomm claims this can reduce radio power consumption by up to 20% and heat production by up to 30%, all while improving the speed and reliability of the cellular signal.

2013-09-06_17-31-48

The QFE11xx family of chipsets is actually a first step towards Qualcomm's upcoming "RF360 Front End Solution", which promises to be capable of global compatibility with all standard 2G, 3G, and 4G LTE bands. In addition to supporting virtually every cellular frequency on the planet, the RF360 is expected to reduce power consumption, improve performance, and generally reduce the radio footprint by up to 50% compared to current hardware. The RF360 isn't out yet, and hasn't even been slated for any specific devices, but Qualcomm intends to release it sometime later this year for future devices.

Considering the Note family already has a reputation for great battery life, this can only make it better. Based on Qualcomm's marketing, it seems likely that only the LTE-enabled Note 3 will be equipped with the Envelope Tracking technology.

[Source: Qualcomm]

Cody Toombs
Cody is a Software Engineer and Writer with a mildly overwhelming obsession with smartphones and the mobile world. If he’s been pulled away from the computer for any length of time, you might find him talking about cocktails and movies, sometimes resulting in the consumption of both.

  • TheFirstUniverseKing

    Well, this is it folks. The Note 3 is officially the best phone of 2013.

    • TY

      2013 isn't over yet. And DAT Gingerbread menu button... Very good yes, but I will refrain from judging now. Nexus 5, HTC One Max... more are coming.

      • george m

        Nexus 5 wont have the features of the Note 3 not a real comparison there. There are really any more killer phones coming out for Xmas

    • NOTE 3

      Agreed. Nexus and HTC are finished Lol.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        We know nothing about the Nexus yet. If it's indeed running a Snadragon 800, who's to say it won't have ET?

        • TheFirstUniverseKing

          We already know it won't have expandable storage nor (unless Google has changed its stance) 4G. I'll say those are two pretty big slashes against the upcoming Nexus, which prevent it from being the top 2013 phone. But it'll likely be the best phone you can get for its price if you don't want to deal with contracts.

        • NOTE 3

          Google won't pimp out any Nexus device too much. It must remain cheap, that is a huge part of Nexus. HTC will have a big bezel (relatively and probably front speakers, it should be pretty even for the phablet war but I can't see the richest company failing to HTC, heavily subdjective of course.)

          • Richard Yarrell

            Don't worry to much aboutssome silly Htc One Max or Nexus 5 competing with the Note 3 that won't happen it never has. Sales for the Htc One was garbage and Nexus line products NEVERSELL . Note 3 rules period

          • squiddy20

            Show me where he stated anything about the HTC One Maxx or Nexus 5 (if that's even what it's going to be called) specifically. For that matter, show me where he stated anything about either of those phones "competing" with the Note 3.
            Also, if the "Nexus line products neversell" (I think you missed a space somewhere in there), then explain to us all why the Nexus 4 was sold out for weeks at a time with shipping dates up to 4 weeks out for the first several months it was available. Stupid Samsung fanboy.

          • Dart

            Nexus products never sell? You're a full on moron. The Nexus 5 isn't even competing with the Galaxy Note 3. Stop sucking Samsung's d$#k, dude.

            Nexus devices have been quite popular the last several years. Who even mentioned the HTC One Max?

          • george m

            actually saleswise no they dont sell. Its a niche. you forget that people like you that are on here are not the "norm". If you were then the HTC One would have outsold the S4 but it didnt. and without Verizon carrying a Nexus that is a large chunk of people who wont be buying any Nexus. I have yet to meet someone in real life who actually owns the last Nexus and I sell phones. And your own post makes you sound like you are the one sucking dick over a phone.

          • Simon Belmont

            Frankly, if you've dealt with Richard Yarrell in the past, then Dart probably has every right to call him that if he so chooses (it's not my scene to be so crass, though). Richard proclaims every Samsung device the best ever months before they've even been unveiled (blind follower). Also, you calling him a dick sucker because he called someone else a dick sucker doesn't make you any better. Now does it?

            The Nexus phones were never about competing sales numbers wise with the big name brands like the SGS4 or HTC One (wouldn't be a good idea if Google wants to keep its partners happy, now would it?). They're Google's reference device, basically, but they do enjoy strong sales with the crowd that wants a stock, Google provided and maintained, experience. Do they match the millions upon millions that Samsung and HTC sell? No. But they were never meant to. That doesn't mean, for a second, that they don't sell.

          • Nick Klenchik

            Did you just censor yourself?

          • Simon Belmont

            Haha. It looks like he did.

            Maybe he wanted to be crass, but not TOO crass. Hilarious.

          • Ivan Myring

            Nexus never sells? How did they repeatedly sell out if no one bought one?

          • Mkvarner

            It's only a few compared to Samsung Galaxy S x and Note x.

          • george m

            low stock
            selling out doesnt mean selling a lot
            not at all

          • george m

            yup Nexus is and always will be a niche phone. HTC cant outsell Samsung for crap. Even the almighty HTC One with all the great reviews got outsold horribly by the S4.

    • Stefano Lovecchio

      I think that LG G2 is a good competitor. Optical stabilization, better to hold thanks to the 0.5" less, gorgeus almost-frameless display, interesting solutions for the physical buttons.
      It's very hard to choose, but maybe i will prefer the G2.
      (Note 2 user here)

      • http://visionaforethought.wordpress.com/ Oflife

        Note has a stylus, fairly important for creative types. Loved my Note 1. Wish LG would create an G2 stylus edition. Thing is Samsung's S-Note etc apps give them a lead, although there are few decent 3rd party Android apps, other than from AutoDesk.

      • RaptorOO7

        Not sure those "interesting" physical buttons will be so great over time, but only time will tell. Say what time do you have on your LG Smartwatch, oh you they don't make one.

        • Jordan

          I personally think the physical buttons being on the back is a stupid idea & completely turns me off towards the phone. But that's just me

          • NOTE 3

            The double tap on the G2's screen to turn it on is dope as f%$&.

          • Sean Cummins

            Since they're both using Snapdragon 800 (I'm guessing that's what makes it possible on the LG) shouldn't a 3rd party app allow the same action on the Note 3?

        • Stefano Lovecchio

          I don't think that many users have a smartwatch in their wishlist. For me, it's just a waste of money and patience for another device that needs to be charged every single day and its primary function is simply to make the SAME thing of the device that you have in the pocket.
          Just my totally personal two cents.

      • spydie

        can't give up the s-pen. If you force yourself to learn to use it, you can't live without it.

        • Stefano Lovecchio

          I tried to use in my day, but i find that it too...forced. The s-pen revealed so unnecessary that i decided to install an AOSP rom 4.3 (which outperforms the Samsung roms, that are totally crap, but it hasn't the s-pen support, like all the non-Samsung roms).
          I think that with Note 3 things will be better, and maybe even on the Note 2, with the imminent upgrade to 4.3.

          • ari_free

            How do you draw without an s-pen? Capacitive styli are very thick

          • Keg Man

            the s-pen isn't thick, its like drawing with an actual pen. take a look at it in the store

          • CalcPrgmr1

            I use CM10.2 on my Note 1 and it still supports the S-Pen perfectly. I still use the S-Pen all the time. The software gimmicks are gone, but the actual pen hardware works perfectly with supported apps and it provides a useful alternative to imprecise finger tapping. I won't buy another phone without it.

      • Richard Yarrell

        Compare LG G2 to all the rest better than the GalaxyNote 3 or in the sa category as the Note 3 it never will be. Nor will the sells for the G2 the Note 3 will BLOW THE DOORS OFF THE G2 easily.

      • NOTE 3

        Its too small for me and isnt it sealed? Cant get to battery and no sd card If so, eww. And LG just sounds cheap to me im sure im wrongl but yeah sounds midrangish. LG copied Sammie. The weather app, icons, brightness adjuster, prolly all kinds of things. I do like the g2 but I'd never pay a ton of money for it like I would the N3. N2 user here from day 1.

        • Asphyx

          Well isn't the whole point of better battery life to try and remove the need to get to the battery since it doesn't need changing every 6 hours?

          • NOTE 3

            I bet I could kill that battery in about 5 hours. I go buck. Seeding and leaching and streaming and browsing all at once nonstop every night for hours.

          • Henk the spermbank

            Seeding all night long.

          • NeonMunky

            Relevant username

      • HotInEER

        I agree. I think the G2 is a great phone, and more than likely I will get that. Note 3 does intrigue me, but, the $299 on contract price is to steep for a phone, and I don't want to give carriers too much of a incentive to try and make it the norm.

        Remember they tried that with the S4 also, than everyone complained, and they claimed it was a mistake. Let the carriers know, that $99 to $199 is the most we will pay for a phone on contract.

        • Hush_it

          I think $299 for the Note 3, 32gb is pretty good, considering iPhone 5s 32gb is also $299.

          • NOTE 3

            $300 is too damn high! But I'll buy it on someone elses account so I keep my unlimited of course.

          • george m

            High compared to what??? The note 2 was the same price and you got less memory
            people bitch and bitch and want more for less. you want the good stuff you pay for it.

          • NOTE 3

            I bitch about most things that cost money. :) $300 for the Note is not outrageous but it'd be n8ce if top of the line phones were still $200, I miss those days. When I 0bought the iPhone 1 when it was new I was shocked at how much itwas plus the Edge network was relatively expensive.

          • Keg Man

            t-mobile is selling the note 3 for 200. I hope but doubt verizon follow suit

          • TrentBradley

            $200 down, and then so much every month. Whether you realize it or not, on every carrier you will end up paying for the full price of a phone.

          • Keg Man

            ah thanks, I didn't realize that was part of it

          • CalcPrgmr1

            Seriously, it's an expensive phone because it is a top class, feature packed, incredibly innovative front of the line device. The iPhone 5s really doesn't have anything that warrants that price but the Note 3 certainly does. If the iPhone 5S weren't made by Apple it would be a mediocre midrange phone, the only reason it can compete at that price is the Apple logo and iOS.

      • Brandon Fletcher

        9 months into owning my Note 2, I replaced my battery with an identical OEM new one. I almost doubled my battery life. No removable battery if you keep your phone for more than 6 months is a dealbreaker for me. Plus, LG's lack of storage/external storage options on the US version is why Samsung is once again getting my money.

      • george m

        hell no

      • Allritch Tessono

        Not if that 4k recording has anything to say about it.

        • Stefano Lovecchio

          It's totally useless without a 4k screen. Come on.

          • Allritch Tessono

            4k will be the norm and will have to be at a reasonable cost. Especially now that companies are coming "8k" display's which will undoubtably be expensive.

        • Keg Man

          4k is nothing but a stat to lure in dumbies. You will never use it

    • Krzysztof Jozwik

      officially based on your opinion.

      • spydie

        wait for the numbers... which phone sells the most. It IS undoubtedly the most advanced phone of 2013

        • Andrew Wood

          Do you really think the note 3 will be the best selling phone of 2013?

          • Udontneedtono

            Ummmmm none of us are getting getting ANY of the money so WHO CARES . ;-) if u want the phone buy it , if u don't don't.

          • NOTE 3

            tru tru

          • NOTE 3

            The S4 will be. Fact. Lol just wanted to sound sure for once I keep saying my opinion and subjective and I assume. Im sick of it. I know!

          • george m

            who said that? No one. The pt is this phone will SELL. Without a doubt more than the G2 will or what ever nexus is coming out.

        • TY

          Wrong logic. Best selling does not necessarily mean "of best quality".

    • evertjr

      And will still lag because touchwiz.

      • NOTE 3

        A tiny bit of lag is better than pure Android to me. My Note 2 is a better device software wise than my Nexus 2013 for what I use it for. I never thought I'd prefer a skin over vanilla Android but I do. Google failed to make a File app or a decent video player. Touch Wiz has a great video player and File app. Also removing all apps from the background with 1 click is better than having to swipe them away 1 by 1. A brightness adjuster in the notification bar is also better. When I say better I mean better for me, some people might like to waste their time lol.

        • Stefano Lovecchio

          I'm not sure.
          I used the Note 2 from day one and the Samsung rom is totally ridicoulus. It's full of lag anywere, even in the simple Messages app (!!!!) and it has a very ugly design. I switched to CM 10.2 (and yes, i decided to lose some battery life and s-pen features) and here there is another planet: the gui is beautiful and perfectly smooth in every situation. Of course, stock Android hasn't some apps, but the Play Store is there for a reason, and it's full of excellent apps for closing the gap. Oh, and there's no lack of close-all-from-background button (maybe you tried some roms which hasn't it?)

          • NOTE 3

            I have only had one rooted phone in my life, the Droid X when it was top of the line, I had the MIUI rom and I loved it. Maybe I will have my N3 rooted so I wont have to deal with lag. I will research roms in the near future and see what the options are. Thanks.

          • enoch861

            I can't dock Samsung on the slow and laggy Messages app. Android itself doesn't know how to properly handle a lot of text messages. Once you get over 2000 or so texts/mms, even the stock Android Messages app starts to slow down considerably. And if your someone like me with around 18000 texts, the messaging apps just can't handle it. And somehow, Apple and Microsoft figured out how to properly manage thousands of messages while Google can't. It baffles me to this day.
            I just picked up an S4 just for kicks a couple days ago to hold me till the next wave of phones are officially released, and I have to say that TW just keeps getting smoother and smoother. Now, after tomorrow, I'll be able to properly make a decision on my next phone.

        • RoachForLife

          Everything you just described comes with CyanogenMod :)

          • NOTE 3

            I'll most likely rock CM with my N3 since people say is better.

          • CalcPrgmr1

            I really want the Note 3 but I can't justify buying it at launch without CM support. I don't mind paying full price, but I want to make sure it gets a solid dev following and a CM port with S-Pen hardware support like the Note 1 has before I buy it, since I'll probably want to ditch TW as soon as possible and install CM.

        • CalcPrgmr1

          Meh, I prefer AOSP ROMs but I still want S-Pen support. CM10.2 on the original Note works perfectly for me as the pen is still supported in hardware so apps that support it work fine, but the software integration is gone since it's not TW. I really only care that I can draw and write with it, not that those features are super quickly reached.

      • george m

        o please with the speed of phones these days you cant notice it all
        I have the note 2 and the S4....The s4 is smooth
        that excuse is getting old 4 years later

        • NOTE 3

          The only Touch Wiz I notice is whenbi turn my screen on. 1 to 2 seconds of lag on mu N2 I have tge lockscreen set to none.

          • Firehawkws7

            Install Jedi X and that lag will be gone.

    • Richard Yarrell

      I have always stated for over 7 months that nothing else matters after September 4th period. Well that time has come and gone and my point was proven ten fold. I also said the Note 3 will be the BEST HANDSET from October to July 2014. October 2nd will be a grand day for me definitely.

    • PolarBear

      I hate Samsung hardware buttons, and I think there is more competition now.

      • NOTE 3

        Just the home, power, and volume buttons? Or do you mean the home and capacitive buttons? I like on screen buttons but I also like the screen to be as big as possible as often as possible so the buttons do not mean too much to me. There are pluses and minuses on both sides.

        • PolarBear

          I love softkeys. I don't care if these take space from display, because I find those more useful than any other hardware keys. Especially the hardware home button from Galaxy devices and even worse in their tablets. I don't know what the hell they had in mind for placing those buttons in their tablets. For now, I have an old Epic 4G Touch that have softkeys enabled and hardkeys disabled. My next device will be the Nexus 5 for sure and I hope that device have softkeys.

  • @GoogleGoliath

    Pre-ordered and can't wait!

    • NOTE 3

      Ballin likeaboss

  • PhineasJW

    Is the Note 3 packing a Snapdragon 800?

    The LG G2 just tested the highest of any smartphone on AnandTech's battery life tests, running the Snapdragon 800 with some other optimizations.

    Nearly 24 hours of talk time! And beat everyone else on 3G and WiFi web browsing.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/3

    • Julie

      Yes, the LTE version is Snapdragon 800.

  • Casey

    so what if the next nexus phone had this rf360 chip in it? would that be a possibility?

    • kekkojoker90

      No because isn't out at the moment but nexus 5 is in work (see video of android 4.4)

      • Krzysztof Jozwik

        Doesn't something have to be in the works with the part before the part comes out so that the part can come out?

      • NOTE 3

        Nexus will be sealed up. That alone is a no go for thousands of people who like batteries and Sd cards. Also the N5 will have to be cheap so it wont be decked out with every top feature. I assume.

    • EH101

      Possible? Yes. But very doubtful. Nexus really isn't a synonym for most advanced. In fact, the only way it has ever been leading in technology has been with screens. The Galaxy Nexus was the first 720p display (I think), Nexus 10 was the first extra high resolution tablet screen(not sure what the resolution was called), and the new Nexus 7 the first full hd 7 inch tablet or at least among the first. The internals, however, are rarely top-of-the-line so they can keep these devices affordable.

      • Vito Lee

        The Nexus 4 was top of the line with its S4 Pro when it came out. Then it became 2nd best after about 3 months-ish when the HTC One was announced XD. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing the next Nexus with this, especially considering that recent FCC filing.

        • EH101

          Ah, I had forgotten about the S4 Pro, but it still wasn't the first device with that processor. That title belongs to the LG Optimus G which came to market about 11 days earlier. So, basically, we have a draw here. Lol.

          • Vito Lee

            Just for the sake of argument what you said, and I quote is, "Nexus really isn't a synonym for most advanced." No mention about who is first. :P So it was pretty advanced for its time. Now, not so much but hey new Nexus soon-ish.

          • EH101

            Indeed, but if what you have is only equal to what the best on the market is, is it the most advanced? Or is it merely within a group that is the most advanced? Semantics, I know, but fun to consider. Lol.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/cody-toombs/ Cody Toombs

      My first inclination is to say it's possible but doubtful... But it actually isn't very far fetched. We're already in the timeframe where the RF360 is due for release, and we know from previous examples that Nexus devices have premiered new technologies and architectures in the past (Nexus 4 launched with the S4 Pro, Galaxy Nexus launched with the first 720p screen, etc.)

      I feel like it's probably a little too optimistic to ask for this to appear in the next Nexus phone, but I wouldn't put the odds against it to be very high. It makes a lot of sense in a world phone, and it would be a great device to feature this in, but OEMs are likely to fight for temporary exclusives on something like this.

  • kekkojoker90

    Well if note 3 have the froyo style UI like s4 i will never buy :D. He could have a nuclear reactor and cold fusion for supply the battery consumation but with these UI is the same

    • Hans Pedersen

      I'm always amused every time I see someone being so upset about the choice of colour shades in a UI by a manufacturer.

      • BrandoHD

        The fact that you're amused is amusin

        • Hans Pedersen

          An avid Android Police commenter like you surely ought to know how to change something like that on an Android phone? It's not rocket science, is it? :)

          • BrandoHD

            It cannot be changed because Samsung goes very deep with it, for example the Setting app, thus cannot be replaced unless an AOSP ROM is flashed, and seeing as I have used the S2 and the S3 with custom TW based ROMs, I have never seen a Dev go that deep to change such things

          • Hans Pedersen

            If you are really upset about Samsung organising settings differently, mainly to make it work better with their custom firmware and bootloader features, then yes, I guess you have the right to be upset.

            Personally, I prefer a more advanced and secure system like TouchWiz. I really don't get very upset about what shade of grey a line is.

          • BrandoHD

            What, lol, the settings have absolutely nothing to do with custom firmware or with the bootloader

            The only reason that they change it is to be "different"

            Also, Touch Wizard is neither more advanced nor is it more secure than other systems, TouchWiz is nothing more than a theme and a framework, I think you should read more

          • Hans Pedersen

            Okay, now you're just making things up.
            Try doing a factory reset, or even better, flash a new firmware on a phone not using the TouchWiz version on this Note 3 or the GS4. It's pretty hard to track your phone after that, isn't it? On the Samsung, they've put that in the encrypted bootloader if you enable Knox. How do you run two sandboxed users on a stock android phone?
            There are a lot of different security and hardware settings on a stock Android device and a phone with TouchWiz. Anything from Kies communication, to personal safety, simplified home screens, headphone sound calibration, gestures...
            I like the way Samsung has split settings into context instead of just putting everything in one big hierarchy.

          • BrandoHD

            How does using Gingerbread styled menus make this more difficult:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G77QEe-0Wfw

            I think you attributing things to Samsung that you don't really understand

            Samsung has been using these design elements long before Knox, the Contacts app and the phone app are examples of this, from the 2.3.7 to 4.0.4 they kept the old 2.3.7 visual styling, then from 4.0.4 to 4.2.2 they still kept old visual styling, look at all other manufactures whose custom overlays have been updated to stay in line with "some" of the Android design, now Samsung spread that Gingerbread look from Phone and Contacts app to the Settings app, that is absolutely ludicrous, there is nothing wrong with tabs, but users should be able to swipe between them and the tabs section can be better designed. Whether You or I like them is irrelevant, the fact remains that the design is out of date

            And this Gingerbread styling is not only there, it's in the apps that they design, huge square buttons, tabs, lack of swiping, no Navigation draws, their design is very dated, and it's present throughout, this is 2013, not 2010, their design language needs an update

          • Hans Pedersen

            How about you try to keep an opinion for more than 30 seconds, BrandoHD? Is TouchWiz a deep system change or is it a simple UI mod? It's really hard to tell what your opinion really is if you constantly change it.

          • BrandoHD

            Go read up on the Android Framework, then we can continue, when you understand what it is, and what it does, the resources it provides to the apps running on the device and how Samsung has gone in and replaced much of it, therefore causing apps to NOT be displayed the way the developer intended the app to be displayed, then you can reply again

          • Hans Pedersen

            I'm not telling you what Android and TouchWiz is, I'm just asking you what your personal opinion actually is, because in your three previous statements you went all the way from one end of the scale to the other each time. :)

          • BrandoHD

            I do understand why it would seem that way to you

          • NOTE 3

            You 2 need to hug.

          • EH101

            1. What is the movie settings app? Being serious, never seen that on my Note 2. Perhaps it was removed in the TW rom I'm using...or I'm just misunderstanding.

            2. JellyBeans for the Note 2 is a completely AOSP themed TW rom. I can't think of a single area where the Samsung theme shows through.

      • kekkojoker90

        isn't only for colour... UI, icon, lockscreen, wallpaper and other stuff. I could like if is different from android stock but with guidelines of android developing or a completely different things like miui and emotion UI of huawei but samsung UI is obscene in every thing.Full of bloatware, ugly and imho remember froyo style.

        • Hans Pedersen

          The lock screen looks horrible on stock Android after the widgets appeared in 4.2.x. Just like the settings curtain. They look so misplaced I honestly wonder how Duarte could let them slip through and ruin his overall UI idea. Those two things alone are actually great reasons to use TouchWiz instead of vanilla Android.

        • hot_spare

          guidelines! isn't that clear enough? nobody is "forced" to follow that. Having guidelines doesn't mean they have to follow any of that. and I would want them to do something apart from stock. I am not a fan of stock android. for me that's too boring, just like WP.

          Samsung is not here to follow google guidelines, they are here to sell devices. as long as TW-devices are selling well, I don't think they will be bothered to change it.

        • spydie

          too bad you feel that way. maybe you should be haunting a different blog. This is about the Note 3. If you don't like it, move on. I guarantee you that they have enough fans to make a huge profit no matter how many "complainers" there are.

    • hot_spare

      Do you have any doubt regarding the UI of TW-phones? I thought it's pretty clear that any Galaxy phones will not use stock Android. So, don't waste our time by saying something useless.
      If you like stock, I am sure there are many more articles for Nexus. Please visit those articles. They are much more relevant for you.

      Sometimes I think whether it's tough for people to realize that not everyone have same taste or same preferences??

      • BrandoHD

        He has made a valid point, the styles and operation used by Samsung is Froyo/Gingerbread styled, tabs, the lack of swiping are all 2010 Android design, most the other manufacturers have updated their respective UIs to at least compliment what stock Android has done, Samsung has not

        • hot_spare

          So? don't we all already know that?

          What's the point of "if" Note 3 has typical samsung UI?

          • BrandoHD

            The point is that while designing their themes, they should at least try to obey at some some of the design guidelines that the guys at Google work so hard to develop, it would help the entire Android ecosystem when one moves from one brand to another that the "experience" is not so jarring in their differences.

            Also when most of the apps in the Google Play Store follow the same general design guidelines as the OS, the apps seem like part of the OS and they feel much more native to the Android ecosystem, however when apps follow the guidelines and Samsung does NOT, the overall experience is incomplete.

            So Yeh, Android and it's design and the apps in the Google Play Store have been moving forward, Samsung's TW UI is stagnant, that the point :-)

          • spydie

            I disagree. Samsungs TW is the best, even though I use Next Launcher. The overall experience of Samsung is so good at this point that I hope it never changes, just add new technology. For all the people that think Samsung is stagnant, well, all I can say, is go back to iphone or HTC. We true Samsung fans like it just the way it is.

          • BrandoHD

            Hahaha, funny thing I have heard and read this type of comment before, they used to come from iPhone users before iOS 7, don't worry, when Samsung decides to update their design, I am sure the "true Samsung fans" would say its the best also, you should hope that they don't wait as long as Apple though.

          • Skander

            Samsung doesn't care about it being "Gingerbread Styled"

            They MADE it that way and give no shit about Android.
            It's touchwiz, take it the way they designed it, google didn't.

          • BrandoHD

            *confused face*

          • hot_spare

            I am not sure what has this got to do with my comment.
            Are you replying me or someone else?
            or we are simply moving in 2 different directions entirely.

            Off-topic: I had enough of nexus and totally bored of stock UI. very bad experience with my last N4. I personally want samsung/other vendors to try something other than stock.

          • BrandoHD

            If you personally prefer a device using Gingerbread design styling, good for you, but personally, I don't

          • hot_spare

            Doesn't make any difference to me if the colour of the battery icon is blue or green. I have seen "purists" disagree with such implementation. For me it matters whether the battery will last whole day, good camera and screen.
            My N4 has a OK screen. I forgot that my N4 has a camera, and I try to avoid speaking about my batterylife. My old GN2 would have 50% charge left by the time my N4 is dead.

            I am more than ready to look at green/purple colours if the basic operations of the phone is good. N4 fails at some basic functions. It's useless talking about UI of a phone if it can't last whole day.

          • BrandoHD

            Which makes your entire post pointless, because we are talking about Samsung's TouchWiz design as compared to other Manufacturers, yes stock Android is included but not exclusive, HTC, Sony and LG also have custom skins

            I can see you have issues with the N4, doesn't take away from my point and if you want to have an argument with yourself about the N4, you should do so behind closed doors

          • NOTE 3

            You be nice!

          • hot_spare

            You never made any point so far. If you want a stock UI, go to some other articles. If you still have any doubt about Samsung using TW, you are in wrong planet. Simple as that.
            They are doing absolutely fine with their TW UI.

        • Bager

          For me Samsung by sticking to the same style gives users of its phones the same "experience" each time they upgrade their phones e.g. from S2/N2 -> S3/N3 -> S4 etc.

          Samsung is not forcing you to buy its smartphones - if you don't like it stop whining and buy HTC, LG or Sony.

      • kekkojoker90

        i know other peoples could have different taste in fact is my opinion and i talk for me and not for everyone. If i can't even express my opinion is the end.

    • NOTE 3

      Sounds silly. Nova launcher. Themer app (coming soon). Root. So many easy ways to change the UI in seconds.

      • David Margolin

        Yes, but the actionbar in every app (unless the developer uses a custom style) will remain that ugly looking gradient.

        • NOTE 3

          Can you link me a pic of what you're talking about exactly? I Googled it and I am sort of confused. Thanks if you link me.

      • MITM

        neither of which will change the core SystemUI where all the ugliness resides

        • NOTE 3

          What is the core system UI exactly?

  • airrmedia

    Samsung seems to be doing a lot of right things with their products. I am getting a bit excited about the Galaxy Note 3.

    • yankeesusa

      Yep, basically the only thing that most people think samsung gets wrong is the material. But with the note 3 being plastic with metal edge and leather back I think a lot of people are going to go for it. I myself love samsung although the htc one is great but I keep going back to samsung.

  • TJay229

    I can't wait to get mine in November. Thank God I waited for this instead of the SG4.

    • NOTE 3

      The S4 is tiny!

  • https://www.facebook.com/max.chen2 MC_Android

    Well at least now we can officially say that the Note series will now take the place as Samsung Galaxy line's flagship.

    • NOTE 3

      Spec wise not sales wise. I guess flagship and specs are more synonymous than flagship and sales.

  • dhruva

    heat and battery life..the two under-rated specs.

    • NOTE 3

      Heat is rarely talked about. Some nights I have to toss my N2 in the freezer for about 60 to 90 seconds or switch batteries to help cool it off.

      • Tim242

        My Verizon Note 2 never even got warm. My S4...that's another story.

      • flosserelli

        The only time my Note 2 gets warm is when it struggles to get a signal. One of the neighborhood restaurants always kills my signal and the phone gets a little warm when I go there, but that's the only time I notice heat.

        • yankeesusa

          Agreed. With good signal my note 2 never gets hot unless I'm watching a video. But with bad signal it heats up and drains very fast. With sprint this is a huge problem in a lot of buildings indoors. I switched my wife to tmobile and no issues at all indoors. I hope the note 3 with the new spectrum sprint is going to start using will do a lot better. Right now I'm sticking to 1 line tmobile and 1 line sprint. It evens any missed spots we have plus if my sprint phone slows data down I can hotspot my tmobile phone.

  • Michael Fontenot

    If this is a new Qualcomm technology can it be expected to make it into other phones that come out after the Note 3? (cough Nexus 5 cough) Because that would be just fantastic.

    • Xabi

      It's supposed to be available for OEMS in H2, 2013 so hopefully the upcoming Nexus bundles not only this QFE1100 chip, but the whole RF360 arch. That could be the answer of using such a smal battery of only 2300 mAh. Also, it's surprising that the modem supports CDMA/2G/3G/LTE but at the same time it's strange the lack of support of the Verizon LTE band when this promised RF360 is said to provide support globally for around 40 bands...

      In a month or so we'll see!

  • JACEK Z

    We will see how it works with real network ;)

  • NOTE 3

    This site is the worst phone enabled forum I've ever typed on. 5 seconds of lag everytime I try to fix a typo. Note 2 on LTE, its not on my end Android Police!!!!!

  • Nick Tsiotinos

    I've been resisting the Note phones mainly because of their size. I currently have a Nexus 4 and HTC One as my daily drivers. However the power situation is really starting the wear on me! By mid afternoon both of these phones need charging or they will not make it past 5 pm for the home commute. Sorry but just on that point alone I think I'll have to go the Note 3 as my next phone.

    • QwietStorm

      What if the new Nexus has the same improvements?

    • yankeesusa

      What is your average life span on the nexus 4 and htc one? Some people swear that the htc one gets around the same battery life as the note 2. I really can't gauge it on my phone since I have several live widgets, 4 different emails updating in real time and I constantly check twitter and my email due to my business. I still wouldn't give up my note 2. Doing all this on my old phones would only get me 5 hours or less a day. On my note 2 I constantly get 9-12 hrs depending on use.

      • Nick Tsiotinos

        I use both devices as heavily as you do. I get 4 to 5 hours on both. 4.3 on the Nexus has improved battery life. The biggest difference between them theme that the HTC takes twice as long to charge. I'm looking forward to the Note 3.But I'll probably get the new Nexus as well for my home device..

  • pakure

    Nexus is sold in 5 countries , Samsung galaxy series is sold in 140 countries.... Do the math... nexus 4 80,000 sold....s4 ....80 million sold
    in India I am sure note 2 were sold more than s4.... Same will be with note 3

  • andries

    Will it use less touchwiz?

  • yankeesusa

    This is great news. Maybe I will sell my note 2 and pay full price for a note 3. With just the better processor, bigger screen but yet same form factor and better grip due to leather back, lte compatibility with all lte and better power consumption, its a win win. I think a better step up then the s4 was from the s3.

  • sam

    Note 3 yay!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to have one in my hands once and for all!!

  • ronmexico1984

    I am day 5 on on my Galaxy Note 3, from Verizon. I don't know if the new antenna tech is to blame but so far I am worried about the signal strength. I live in the middle of nowhere but my old Razr Maxx had no problems with a signal.

    This Note 3 is hit or miss on texts and I never see even a 3G signal unless I'm outside.

    I like the phone so much that instead of swapping it for a new Maxx, I ordered a network extender. Verizon was willing to switch me so I'll still have a few days to try with the extender. My wife's Galaxy 3 has no problem. This Note 3 seems to have a potential issue.

    Anyone else see this happening?