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Sep
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Google got more than a few raised eyebrows when a possible candidate for the next Nexus phone, bearing what was probably LG branding and a Nexus 7 2013-style horizontal logo, was leaked in the video for the Android 4.4 statue. Now some sleuths at S4GRU have connected a few dots and found that an FCC filing for the LG D820 looks an awful lot like that leaked device.

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The FCC filing is focused on the phone's wireless specifications, since that's what the Commission has to certify. Wireless bands include a GSM/CDMA/LTE radio array that could work on AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint, with only Verizon unsupported among the Big Four. Assuming that this is the real deal, that could be an active decision from Verizon (as everyone is still a bit sour from the sub-par treatment of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus), or a hardware limitation based on Verizon's LTE 750 spectrum. Note the camera and flash holes on the rear housing - they match up with the leaked photos.

Update #1: Reader TheManii spotted a reference to the MSM8974A, the same Snapdragon 800 processor that powers the LG G2. There's also mention of a Key Lime Pie version of Android (presumably filed before the name change to the KitKat name for Android 4.4 and also oddly misspelled as Kye Lime Pie). Check out the screenshot from the FCC documentation below:

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Update #2: This device may indeed support Verizon once it rolls out Band 4 LTE (1700Mhz) later this year.

The 126mm display size referenced below works out to a 5-inch screen (well, 4.96 inches). Beyond that, there's no way to know display technology or resolution, but 1080p would match the LG G2.

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Other specifications from the filing include wireless charging, 802.11ac Wi-Fi bands, case dimensions (131.9x68.2mm, no Z depth yet), and a battery rating: 2,300mAh. Like the Nexus 4, it will not be removable.

Just for reference, the model number for the LG G2 is D800 and D801 for different variants. While the D820 seems to be related to it in many ways, the dimensions, screen size, and battery capacity (3,000mAh) don't quite match up to the G2.

With Google announcing Android KitKat and the Nexus smartphone due for a yearly update, it certainly looks like this might be the right device.

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Update #3: Here's something interesting to look at regarding the LG D820.

Source: FCC via S4GRU

Jeremiah Rice
Jeremiah is a US-based blogger who bought a Nexus One the day it came out and never looked back. In his spare time he watches Star Trek, cooks eggs, and completely fails to write novels.
  • skitchbeatz

    Didn't the nexus 4 have a 2100mAh battery and only a 720p screen? Seems like from a pure specs standpoint this won't be an upgrade in battery life.

    • Alex Lam

      A more efficient processor and AMOLED screen will save battery

      • dtraini30

        Who knows what 4.4 has in store too.

        • sasa

          we can only hope

      • Mark Coppock

        AMOLED only saves power when the screen is largely black (all the elements are off). Once you start putting enough stuff on the screen, it uses more power than LCD. It also sucks in sunlight (or any bright lighting, really).

        • Alex Lam

          Current versions of Android use the Holo theme, which is mainly black...

          • arun

            How many webpages have a black background?

          • dcdttu

            All of the really sad ones is my guess.

          • pfmiller

            Sure, if you spend all of your time in the Settings app, or looking at notifications it's mostly black. But what about actually using the phone? Look at Gmail, Email, Messaging, Hangouts, Play Store, Play Music, Maps, Google+, etc. What do you see? White, white, white, white, white, white, ...

      • Jaredsutter

        Is there some reason to think it will be amoled? There is nothing in the article about screen technology, and as far as I know LG isn't known for using amoled in their devices, are they? Isn't the G2 LCD?

        • Mark Coppock

          I don't know where AMOLED came from. I think someone mentioned it as part of their wish list... I'd be shocked if it were AMOLED.

    • Marcus Townsend

      Yeah, but the Nexus 7 2013 has a smaller battery than it's predecessor, but includes a higher res screen and faster processor while maintaining the same battery life. This is an increase, so MAYBE we'll see an increase overall. Who knows.

      And that doesn't even include any possible benefits of 4.4

      • dalingrin

        Thats mostly due to the Qualcomm SoC in the new Nexus 7 vs Tegra 3 in the old.
        In this case, its Qualcomm vs Qualcomm for the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. The Snapdragon 800 is a bit more power hungry(faster as well) than the Nexus 4 SoC.

        • Colin Kealty

          I think the 800 is actually more power efficient as long as it's not clocked at 2.2ghz (which I'll definitely bring down to 1.8... 2.2 is so excessive) and plus you have to remember the modem wakelock issues with the nexus 4, that drains battery fast also.

  • nsnsmj

    Gotdammit, Google. 2300 mAh battery? The G2 has a 3000 mAh battery, so why decrease it?

    • heat361

      Maybe kitkat has battery improvements, though a larger size battery is always nice to have.

      • Thomas’

        You cannot improve the battery usage of an OS that much, if the screen is taking like ⅔ of the juice.

        • Mapekz

          An iOS 7 iPhone 5 on Airplane mode with a locked screen will standby much longer, around an extra day or so, than a 4.3 Nexus 4 in the same circumstances. The screen eats up a majority of juice during actual usage but there is always room for optimizations elsewhere.

        • QwietStorm

          I would say any improvement at all from the OS is better than nothing, which is what I consider battery tech itself to be right now.

        • tpony

          This MIGHT be an igzo screen...

          • Marcus

            Not likely IGZO is Sharp's technology, LG would use a LG screen.

          • tpony

            The device makers have been known to use one anothers products, from time to time, but I agree that it's not likely.

        • Chas

          Being an LG device (and presumably an LG screen) it may well be using GRAM with the display which reduces power consumption considerably (LG reckon 26% for the screen, 10% for the device overall).

    • TheJauntyJester

      Well the Moto X surprised everyone with a small battery but long life... Let's not go judging a book by the cover yet.

      • Me

        Not true. The lifetime of droid maxx is great. The x is meh

        • mgamerz

          You can't even compare those, the batteries aren't even the close to the same size.

          • io53

            That's the point. The SoC is the same but battery is bigger.

          • squiddy20

            That's like saying "my car gets better mileage than yours", even though both cars have the same engine, chassis, and load, but one has a bigger tank. Of course the higher capacity {insert whatever} will have more "juice"!

          • 8Charlie

            We're talking about for how much time I can use the device before the battery dies. Some us are complaining about the small(er than other manufacturers') battery. So of course I have to compare it with a phone with a bigger battery? Where's the logic in your comment?

            We want the car with the longest range. Wouldn't you HAVE to compare the miles it can get? Whether that's due to it's tank or it's efficiency, is another story. If the bigger tank has better range, you're still comparing the range so it's better in that situation. No?

          • 8Charlie

            Wow, great observation...

      • http://404err0r.com/ Henry Park

        But its technically dual core. so smaller battery wasn't a problem with the Moto X.

      • Di Lu

        720p and dual core is not the same as Snapdrgon 800 quad and 1080p.

        • tpony

          I assume you didn't read the AT article about how going quadcore basically doesn't have any disadvantages as long as the cores can be shutdown when not needed?
          All it means is that you have a greater dynamic power range, but you can, if you want, prevent the other cores from coming on-line unless the system is REALLY getting hammered (like, requiring a 99 load before on-lining more cores).
          The screen isn't a huge issue b/c they are both ROUGHLY of a size, and oled just isn't as efficient as lcd across arbitrary images.

      • Joshua Hill

        Reviews I read found it surprising that the battery life was so disappointing after the Motorola claims about battery life before the Moto X was released. A little better than most but not any noticeable difference to the devices daily usage battery life. It would get you through a day but you still needed to charge it every day, same as all the current top-tier smartphones.

    • Vito Lee

      Maybe the numbers are swapped and it should be 3200 instead? XD

      I can only hope...

      • realizm

        Dude this whole article is a bunch of bullshit. Alarm bells should start ringing when the dimensions listed are smaller than a nexus 4 yet the new phone even when viewed from a distance is clearly larger...for fucksake its obvious...and a 2300 mah battery? You people are out of your goddamn mind.

        • PhineasJW

          DUDE! No WAY! You figured it out!

        • Vito Lee

          I have replied to one of your many posts stating this. The person holding the N4 is farther back a bit, and by perspective it will look smaller than it actually is. Not to mention at the distance the person recording is from, even if they were side by side, they would look roughly the same size since the dimensions are so similar based on the FCC document. Stop your blind ignorance and listen to logic for crying out loud.

          • realizm

            The angles and depth are nowhere near drastic enough. You're exacerbating the plainly obvious to go along with the "spec sheet". Have fun with that.

          • Jarod

            Distances can be misleading.

            example: http://www.gifbin.com/986447 (the block is not getting closer to the buildings in the background)

          • Nicholas Snowdeal

            His username is ironic.

        • Chronus719

          Someone forgot their Midol this morning.

        • TY

          lol, the Pantech Vega Iron with a 5-inch screen is only 67.7mm wide. These aren't even the thinnest bezel.

        • Liderc

          It's directly from the FCC you idiot, kill yourself jesus.

          • jonathan3579

            Jesus already died.

        • Morten Ulveseth

          The original battery of the galaxy nexus is 1750. While that is a while ago and the screen is smaller, I would say 2300 is very realistic.

          • newsjunkieintl

            And I immediately upgraded both my wife's and my GNex to offcial "extended" 2000 mAh battery (from Samsung in Korea) which is what Google should have shipped them with in the first place! Even came with new Nexus back plates for the slightly thicker size.

            but you can't do that with non-removable batteries...

        • Pierre Gardin

          I've found this little video for you, courtesy of Channel 4:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0‎

        • The_16th_Doctor

          its the camera lens that makes it seem so much bigger. I mean, hes not that far back and its not a completely weird angle. Its just that we are used to smaller cameras and led flash openings, optical illusions. However, it does seem to be wider

      • Guest

        Project Buttery Kit Kat! FTW!

      • Chris

        There were other grammatical errors in the FCC filing, so we can only hope :P haha

    • Colin Kealty

      remember the HTC one has a 2300mah batter but gets a good 8 hours of screen on time, maybe google will surprise us with optimizations. Also drain shouldn't be as bad as N4 since the modem isn't a hack..

      • dalingrin

        I wouldn't get your hopes up. The Nexus 4 doesn't have good battery life even without LTE. Nexus 5 looks to have a more power hungry SoC, LTE, and slightly bigger LCD.

        • Stacey Liu

          LTE improves battery life since the radio can idle faster. Old phones like the Thunderbolt suffered because they need a separate radio for LTE. Everything is integrated into one now.

    • Tyler James Edward Hills

      The 800 is supposed to be crazy efficient and a power sipper so maybe it'll work out

      • dalingrin

        Compared to the Cortex-A15, yes, but not compared to previous Qualcomm SoCs like what is in the Nexus 4.

        • Luis Augusto Fretes Cuevas

          Of course it is, clock by clock, watt per watt, the S800 is way more efficient than the S600...

          • dalingrin

            I'm not saying the S800 isn't more efficient. It is more efficient in performance per watt but that doesn't mean big gains in battery life for a smartphone workload.
            Look at Qualcomm's own optimistic chart:
            http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7082/Performance400.png

            If you are playing games or doing something that keeps a constant load on the CPU then the S800 will be slightly worse for battery life(albeit higher performance). Most other use cases it will be approximately the same battery life as the S600.

          • Di Lu

            It is all about getting the work done as soon as possible and go back to sleep. The more power efficient per clock S800 will beat S600 in battery life even if it have a higher peak clock.

          • dalingrin

            I know about the idle state low power draw on Qualcomm SoCs. You're assuming the S800 will be fast enough to make a considerable difference in idle state times compared to the S600. I simply don't think this is the case for the average smartphone workload. Particularly since the S800 must draw more power than the S600 to achieve greater performance.

          • Dan Carter

            Wait, but that's assuming that the 800 under full load draws more power. But if a game uses 90% of a S600's power to run, shouldn't it only need 70-80% of a S800's power to run the same game? Thus achieving better battery life?

          • tpony

            That's an interesting graph.
            It show's that krait 200 was more efficient at low loads than krait 300, while krait 400 is as efficient, and more efficient at high loads, as any of them at any load.
            To get specific numbers we can estimate that krait 300 gets around 6.6dmips/mW fully loaded (900mW) while krait 400 is 7.7dmips/mW at the same power draw (or the krait 400 only needs about 750mW to get the same performance as krait 300, which is an increase of efficiency of about 17%). For all loads lower than that krait 400 is at least as efficient as krait200/300.
            This should be quite a chip.

        • Bjajjull

          S800 is more effeicient than S600 which is more efficient than S4 Pro...

    • Simon Belmont

      Hmm. Maybe Android 4.4 gets stellar battery life?

      I've already seen noticeable battery life improvements in Android 4.3 on my GSM G'Nex. It wasn't something I had a problem with BEFORE Android 4.3, but any increase is, of course, appreciated.

    • Anthony

      Ugh I know. It's made even worse by the decision to (presumably) go with a 1080p display. Why bother on a phone this size? 440 ppi is complete overkill. I would much rather have the 300 ppi a 720p resolution would provide along with the better battery life.

      • TY

        There are many possibilities other than 720p and 1080p... say, 1366x768, 1600x900. (based on the width I tend to think it's 16:9 this time)

        • grits ah kg

          Nah I would prefer 720 p, better app compatability

    • TY

      Blame wireless charging and cost control:(
      2300mah is not too bad, just not good enough.

    • Eddie’s

      I'm pretty sure if it had a 3000 mAh battery then you would complain about the price being more than 350 or not having an sd card. Either way Google never wins for giving the people a state of the art unlocked phone at a super low price.

      • Tony

        This. Nexus are built to a budget. Also, they don't want to compete with the existing lineup, so the're downspecced little. The nexus 4 was like the optimus G with LTE ripped out.

        Anyone expecting top of the lkine for cheap is going to be dissapointed.. *again*.

        I regularly get over a day with my N4.. Couple of days at a push (less so now I have so much running on it). About the same would be fine.

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      because its google, they love subpar products

      sad really

      • Ivan Myring

        You should be banned from this website, and all android related news stories on other sites.

        • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

          the android police cant touch me, sorry bro

    • Dan Carter

      The G2 is 6mm longer and almost 2 mm wider. It's a much larger device. I'm pretty sure there's nothing this compact on the market that has a bigger battery. The G2, in fact, has one of the biggest batteries for a phone of it's size. The Droid Ultra is much larger and has a smaller battery than this. Remember, this is smaller than a Nexus 4 but has a larger battery.

    • Mark

      Pricing.

    • Jamal N Mason

      Project Butter Kit Kat! FTW!

    • Jose Torres

      Google may do whatever it can to meet the really low price point that Nexus phones are known for.

    • Kenny G

      Probably cause LG already kbew about the Nexus device and made another device better. ;-)

  • a.d.AM

    Boom goes the dynamite

  • Guest

    am i the only one seeing the camera cut out on the wrong side?

    • Ricardo Neves

      That's the inside of the back cover

    • Skander

      Yes, you are seeing the back cover from the inside in the picture.

    • Frederico Silva

      :facepalm:

  • guest

    OMG YES SPRINT

    • RPiatt

      THIS. A thousand times. THIS.

  • Jacob Dagenais

    Wait, I don't see 2100/1700(AWS)?!?

    • Jarod

      It's also known as Band 4

      • Jacob Dagenais

        For GSM I ment.... I know the LTE bands.

        • Jarod

          It's also known as Band 4 in roman numerals (IV)

          • Jacob Dagenais

            I know, but gsm only shows 850/1900 (Band 5 & 2) and no others. LTE bands are different from hspa+ bands. What im getting at is no t-mobile/wind mobile hspa+.

          • Jarod

            I know they don't make these frequencies and bands easy to figure out, but basically, HSPA+ is UMTS, which uses W-CDMA.

            Since Band IV is listed in the W-CDMA category above, it will support T-Mobile's HSPA+.

            Also, T-Mobile has 2G/GSM service in the 1900Mhz band, which is also supported by this phone.

            Also also, in many markets, T-Mobile has begun to "refarm" their 1900Mhz to add HSPA+ on that band as well. (and this phone supports that too, because it has band II on w-cdma)

          • Simon Belmont

            I assume it's a pentaband GSM phone. Both the G'Nex and Nexus 4 are.

            So, it would make sense for the Nexus 5 to be, too. I think people are getting their wires crossed with the mention of LTE bands.

    • Mark Coppock

      Isn't that WCDMA Band IV?

  • Daniel J

    Surprisingly, according to the specifications, this is less wide and tall than the Nexus 4!

    Nexus 4: 133.9 x 68.7 mm
    Nexus (5): 131.9 x 68.2 mm

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      That's why we're avoiding any kind of references to a Nexus 5.

      • Gnex

        Someone haz information...

      • heat361

        It says the display diagonal is 126 mm which is almost 5 inches, but who knows what they might name it for all we know they could call it new nexus 4.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Exactly. It will make sense to name it the Nexus 5 but remember what happened to KLP? What if it's the Nexus Peanut Butter Reeses Kisses?

          • PhineasJW

            The Nexus 4 was 4.7", so the precedent is less than 5 inches = Nexus 4.

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            Nexus 4.96 confirmed.

          • PhineasJW

            "Google Play Edition Nexus Phone 4.96"

          • FrancoMacagno

            Its a great device for using Google Play Music All Access

          • Sarang Pitale

            Or may be Google is bringing out 2 sized nexus phones
            New Nexus 4 small
            New Nexus 4 large
            like the 2 sized nexus tablets
            Nexus 7 and Nexus 10

          • RPiatt

            Nexus 4 MAXX

          • Jedga

            Hey what's that phone, "It's the LG Nexus Peanut Butter Reeses Kisses"

          • http://www.westagemusic.com/ Marc

            Not plausible. Needs more registered trademarks in it.

          • Fatty Bunter

            The Lexus Nexus
            Calling it.

          • TomZ

            Sounds delicious!

      • http://www.exabit.tk/ Thomas Miller

        The device has a 4.96 inch display. page 17: under device dimension, it says display diagonal = 126 mm .

        1 quick google search for conversion, 4.96 inches. Not quite 5, but really close.

      • Josh Legoza

        My guess is we'll have a 2013 Nexus 4 and a 2013 Nexus 10 just like Google did with the new Nexus 7.

    • Chronus719

      I'm so glad to see these dimensions. Even if they bumped the screen size and made some ridiculously thin bezels, this still falls comfortably under 1-handed use.

      • realizm

        Are you blind? The source of this article is bullshit. Can you not see that the newer phone is physically larger? Ray Charles can see that shit.
        Let Nexus season begin!!!!!

        • JamieStarr

          You figured it out again ! It is Ray Charles in the new leaked Nexus promo video singing "LG-or-G-I On My Mind"

        • squiddy20

          1. This came directly from the FCC. It don't get more official than that.

          2. The dimensions listed are smaller than the Nexus 4, and as many others have pointed out to your ignorant ass, just because it looks bigger in the picture/video, does not mean it actually is so. Unless you are suggesting people really are big enough to hold up the Leaning Tower of Pisa or pinch/hold an airplane? http://www.google.com/search?=en&q=hold+up+leaning+tower+of+pisa&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=kFwpUrbdLvfj4AO854CgCg&biw=1280&bih=664&sei=nlwpUuT8D-zC4AOC0IEw http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lus6aliF0x1qd5mnho1_500.jpg

          • ssj4Gogeta

            I think what @realizm is contesting is not that the dimensions are correct for LG D820, but whether LG D820 is the next Nexus phone.

          • squiddy20

            No, he's definitely talking only about the dimensions. In every single one of the comments he's posted here (he's made at least half a dozen), he talks about/implies how, in that last image of the article, this mystery phone is larger than the Nexus 4 right beside it, but the dimensions listed on the FCC spec sheet say it's smaller than the Nexus 4. This is very easily and simplistically solved by interjecting the truth of depth perception: an object closer to your field of view will appear larger, and further will appear smaller.

        • Tony
    • Joshua

      Only by a couple mm. It's about the same width, and the screen on this is only about a quarter of an inch bigger than the Nexus 4's screen. With thinner bezels, an increase that small could quite conceivably be placed into a device with a smaller footprint.

    • wolfkabal

      Also, this is the dimensions of the rear cover only - factor in that it'll probably have a bezel around it (as it's normally not-removable). This would still add a few mm to the overall dimensions which will probably land it at about the same as the current N4

  • Ricardo Brenelli

    If the dimensions are right then this is smaller than the Nexus 4. All I needed to know :-)

  • mog386

    Verizon has a lot of Band 4 LTE spectrum. I know they plan to light it up this year or next year, so maybe it will be compatible.

  • Benjamin Pavel

    This next Nexus better have that "insanely great camera" !!!

    • Gordon

      yes, I have nexus 4s and the cameras are buggy and lousy :(

    • Dan Carter

      I just hope they put the 13 megapixel camera from the G2 in there. It's getting rave reviews.

  • David VanHouse

    PLEASE ANDROID GOD DON'T LET THE NEXT NEXUS HAVE AN AMOLED SCREEN!

    • Mark Coppock

      Can I second AND third that one? I'd really like to be able to read the screen in sunlight.

    • Chris

      Chances are very slim it'll be AMOLED, i mean, LG is known for LCD, not AMOLED. I just hope the screen doesn't have that yellowish look the N4 had.

    • TY

      1. LG is famous for its IPS LCD display
      2. Based on the 2013 Nexus 7, it seems that Google is serious on display calibration and color accuracy this year, i.e. no AMOLED which is hopeless on the color accuracy part (after a few months of usage)
      So your hope will likely come true.

    • bevardimusg

      How often do you actually need your colors to be spot on perfect on your PHONE? Do you watch a lot of super high quality videos on it? I'd MUCH rather have AMOLED for its almost true blacks and infinite viewing angles on my PHONE, which I use for social networking, music, navigation, and tons of other stuff that don't require spot on perfect color accuracy, but benefit from being able to be viewed from all angles without the "polarization ghosting" that happens on LCD, as well as being able to bring up a black screen in a dark room that doesn't look like a complete mess of backlight bleed-through. Honestly, the AMOLED screen is the one thing I miss about my GNEX now that I'm using an N4.

      Unfortunately, for your benefit and not mine, I'd have to agree with these other commenters that LG will likely provide your beloved IPS display with horrible backlight bleed-through. Enjoy...... sigh.

      • yippiedad

        This! Finally someone making sense...

      • Michael Ward

        Well as far as I'm concerned none of that is worth the horrible outdoor visibility amoled provides. Again not to mention the completely Incorrect colors and blueish whites. That's my opinion and it seems like lg and Google agree with that.

        • bevardimusg

          I care less about the colors and more about the true blacks on my phone screen, but to each his own. I'm curious, though: I've had the pleasure of using both AMOLED and IPS screens outdoors in sunlight, and they're both equally terrible in my experience... what basis are you using to declare AMOLED screens as being worse at this?

      • dcdttu

        TOTAL AGREEMENT. I miss my Galaxy Nexus AMOLED. I had my wallpaper set to solid black just because it looked amazing.

        • bevardimusg

          Not only did it look amazing with solid black, but it saved battery as well!

  • heat361

    This is the new nexus phone its codename was hammerhead as stated in the document.

    • TY

      Hammerhead shark after Mako (also a shark)? Seems logical.

  • dhruva

    snapdragon 800 processor, what..this is going to be an expensive phone. and why would google release a nexus phone and decrease the prospects for moto x?

    • Mark Coppock

      Because they're different phones, philosophically, and Google is happy selling either of them.

    • Dan Carter

      Snapdragon S4 Pro was the fastest chip on the market when the Nexus 4 came out yet it still cost half of what competing phones cost. Also, no one but we nerds will even know about this phone. The Moto X has a huge marketing campaign. I don't think the Nexus 5 will take too many sales away from the Moto X.

  • Joshua

    Display diagonal = 126.0 mm
    = 12.60 cm
    = 4.96 inches.

    Half-life 3 Nexus 5 "confirmed."

  • Gnex

    Looks like Google's trolling Verizon. Good for them.

  • Mantonio016

    display diagonal: 126.0 mm = 5" inches!!!

  • http://google.com/+derekross Derek Ross

    Why do you say no Verizon support? All of the 800mhz CMDA frequency band was tested if you look further in the documents. Also, the LG G2 Verizon FCC document says Band 17 instead of Band 13. I've seen Band 17 and 13 go interchangeable before while mentioning the 700mhz spectrum.

    https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2020772 LG G2 Band 17

    • mog386

      And Verizon has a lot of Band 4 spectrum that they have yet to light up (planned this year and next)

      • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

        And, band 0 and band 1 CDMA are supported by Verizon -- although that still means nothing. By the time Verizon's band 4 LTE is fully turned on, we will be looking at Nexus 6 already, if it's intended to be a Verizon compatible phone, band 13 support would be added, just like how Google added that to the new Nexus 7.

        • ben7337

          Extremely depressing for me, but this is absolutely true. Unless verizon somehow gets a special variant which seems highly unlikely, the Nexus 5 won't be on Verizon

    • kev2684

      i thought band 17 was AT&T's lower 700mhz LTE band and is totally incompatible to upper 700mhz LTE band 13 that VZW uses? it will be compatible with AWS though. i know VZW and T-Mobile are both capable of 2x20mhz LTE on band 4 in a lot of major cities in southeast.

      • ben7337

        Yeah but think how it'll take 3-5 years to roll out band 4 widespread, not to mention verizon won't let a phone on their network that they don't approve, and the fact that 700mhz LTE doesn't seem to spread far, lte in band 4 probably won't even be usable in half the land outside of major cities due to tower spacing.

    • http://google.com/+derekross Derek Ross

      You idiot, you based your whole argument off of the wrong FCC document. That's not the Verizon variant. That's the AT&T variant. Go home, you're drunk.

      Fuck.

      • Joshua

        +1 for having a sense of humor.

  • arathkone
    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Nexus Ive confirmed.

      • realizm

        Source?
        Because I think you're full o shit.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Whoooosh.

        • squiddy20

          And I think you're incredibly dense and/or stupid and/or trolling.

  • realizm

    This doesn't make sense......clearly the newer nexus in the photo IS physically larger than the nexus 4 right next to it. Its got to be a typo. This article is simply causing more confusion. There's no way possible the newer phone is physically smaller than the nexus 4. I mean I can write an article showing an elephant claiming despite its massive size weighs only 20 pounds

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      This is based on cold hard facts. FCC doesn't just write random bullshit, you know.

    • noes

      You seem confused. This is all directly from the FCC. Maybe take a break from the internet for awhile.

      • realizm

        You seem confused. The author is claiming this is a nexus. Its obviously not. Baaaa sheep.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Says "obviously," proceeds to offer no arguments.

    • Vito Lee

      Keep in mind the camera view is angled so the Nexus 4 is farther back, which would cause it to look smaller.

    • Mark Coppock

      I think there's a perspective shift in the video/image capture. The Nexus 4 is farther away and so naturally looks smaller.

      • realizm

        Yeah OK. And Oswald killed Kennedy with a magical bullet.

        • Chris

          Wow, you really don't understand perspective, do you?

          • realizm

            Wow you really are blind aren't you?

      • Tim242

        Did you notice one is squared, the other is rounded?

        • Mark Coppock

          The one in the picture is rounded on the bottom like in the FCC filing. Can't tell about the top portion in the picture--it's largely obscured by the guy's hand.

    • Todd

      People also fail to consider that there are probably multiple iterations of phones being field tested and the image in the picture may in fact be larger, but not what we are discussing here. Having spoken to googlers, there are often devices they use that don't see the light of day, which is of course what did happen here, so everything I just said may be junk.

  • realizm

    Don't believe a word of this article. Dimensions, battery size...all bullshit.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      And this is based on?

      The data is directly from FCC. Are you saying FCC is lying? Or that this is not the next Nexus? Or that you're a troll?

      • realizm

        I'm saying none of this makes any sense at all for it being a nexus device. If the next nexus is based off the G2, screen size wrong, battery wrong. The thing will have utterly shit battery life. I don't care how rad 4.4 is small battery + big screen = shit no matter how you slice it.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          So then it's not based on the G2? Or it's a slight variation. Or it's not the Nexus. Anything is possible, but all signs point to the Nexus. KLP during testing? What is it if not Nexus?

          • realizm

            Why deviate from the same formula used on the optimus G? To spend more money? Aside from that the battery size is the biggest alarm. Many were hoping for good reason the next nexus would share the specs of the G2. Screen size, battery etc. To me the battery is a big deal. Especially considering the bump in screen size.

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            I don't work for LG, so I don't know. But my best guess would be because it's cheaper to manufacture. Or Google thought 5.2" was too big for their liking. Or reasons 3 through 10.

          • Chris

            Just like the N4 had a 13 megapixel camera, right? Or, an SD card slot like the other model of it? And it didn't have the LED notification light in the same spot as either of the Optimus G models either. The fact is, LG isn't the one who decides all the specs of the phone, Google is. It's their phone. LG is only producing it.

      • Anthony Walker

        The phone in the kitkat video is bigger than the Nexus 4 and yet the dimensions in the FCC document says it's smaller than the Nexus 4.

        • PhineasJW

          The phone in the KitKat video was closer to the camera than the Nexus 4.

          • Chris

            That's what i've been saying too, people obviously don't know that things that are closer tend to look bigger then things that are far away on camera.

          • Tim242

            Not the same device. One is rounded, the other squared.

          • Tim242

            One is rounded, the other squared. Not the same device.

        • realizm

          Yeah man your eyes are playing tricks on you. The differences in distance are so vast that its like an optical illusion man.....

      • Tim242

        That is not the same phone as the leak. The one in the leak is squared, this FCC pic shows typical Nexus rounding.

        • EH101

          Well, the one in the leak could have a fake shell. I mean, that is the cool thing to do nowadays.

        • PhineasJW

          The one in the leak and this one both share the same large camera opening in the same location.

        • Mark Coppock

          As I mentioned earlier, the one in the picture is clearly rounded on the bottom and you can't tell what the top looks like.

  • Cory Wilson

    I can't believe my beloved nexus 4 is about to become "last year's nexus". Doesn't seem like it's even been that long. Time flies. Either way I don't plan on upgrading, not right away anyway, my nexus 4 is still buttery smooth, and I'm still unsure about the bigger screen. It'll get updates at least until next year's model comes out and custom firmware even longer so no reason for me to upgrade right away. Lte would be nice though

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It already is the last year's Nexus because that's where it was released.

      • Peter Oliver

        DONT DO IT TO EM LIKE THAT ARTEM

  • lensgrabber

    If they keep this thing at 8/16gb I'm going to slap someone. 16/32gb at the minimum. 32gb/64gb preferred.

    • kindrudekid

      isnt that a little lenient?

      BITCH SLAP it should be!

    • wolfkabal

      I'd up-vote this a thousand times if I could!

      • blast0id

        edit: I guess it took you a second... lol

    • nsnsmj

      16GB can go f*** itself too, 32GB needs to be the minimum from now on.

      • Colin Kealty

        I'm guessing you weren't entirely serious, but I think 16 should still be the minimum as some people don't store any media on their phones and want to pay as little as possible, 16/32/64 would be the best situation ever, with 16/32 being more realistic

    • Anthony

      Eh, 8gb has served me well on the N4. Would like to see 8/16/32gb options.

  • blast0id

    kye lime pie? is that not suspicious at all?

    • guest

      Unless this was filed in the last few days (no), they've been referng to the k release as klp since december

      Not suspicious

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        What you said. Most Google employees, even those on the Android team, didn't know about KK. Let alone LG.

        • blast0id

          I was referring to the misspelling of key ie: kye

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            Ah, well, that could be a misspelling on the test build, or by the FCC.

          • realizm

            Ah so these people make mistakes? A moment ago they were the gospel.....how about that source confirming this as a nexus?
            Like I said...bullshit

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            Who confirmed it as a Nexus? If someone did, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

            The typo could have been made by anyone involved, not just FCC.

          • realizm

            Care to speculate how many other typos are in that filing doctor?

          • leatherhead

            ... what is wrong with you?

  • Nexus4aiur

    Will be extremely disappointed if the battery isn't 3000 mAh or greater

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Get ready to be disappointed.

    • Dan Carter

      I'm not sure why you'd expect this. Only giant phones have giant batteries. The GS4 is considerably larger than this and it only has a 2600 mAh battery. There's nothing on the market that's this size that has a bigger battery. HTC One is bigger than this and has the same size battery.

  • HOLYMOLY

    Im Glad To hear this Support Sprint I Was Gonna Pay My ETF And Get The Note 3 on T-Mobile Next month because I want to upgrade my cracked S3 but Now I can Save Money and Keep My Good Data Speed I Hope this get announce soon

  • PhineasJW

    LTE band 4 (1700MHz) is mainly T-Mobile and AT&T. It's an alternate band for Verizon. I wouldn't get the Verizon hopes up just yet.

  • Bojan Gutic

    Notice the Key Lime Pie version was marked June 16th? This has been in the works for a while...

  • http://ignaciozippy.com/ Ignacio Zippy

    Hammerhead? That's a fish. This is a Nexus.

  • Marcus

    How is the case 131.9 x 68.2 mm and the Nexus 4 133.9 x 68.7 mm and the LG G2 138.5 x 70.9 mm?

    • realizm

      Exactly....article=bullshit........ Any competent journalist would've sifted through this bullshit and pitched it in the trash where it belongs.

      • PhineasJW

        This really is your first time around the block isn't it?

        The information is directly off the FCC.

        It's an LG phone running "Key Lime Pie", and the footprint matches the unknown Nexus phone seen in the KitKat video.

        We'll see you back here in a month with your tail between your legs when this is proven correct, right?

        • Tim242

          The footprintdoes not match. Rounded vs squared.

        • realizm

          Yeah sounds recent bro.... Yeah tail dangling and all. Fucking sheep.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        So it's not the same exact size as the G2 and the battery is different - why does that mean that it's not the next Nexus? I don't see the correlation. The G2 was only brought up because it's similar.

        • m477

          Also, the g2 has a larger screen.

  • Jordan Rushing

    Can someone please just give Sony a shot???

  • mgamerz

    The thing on the back of the nexus phone looks like the FCC logo with the C in the other C and the European version next to it. I don't see the LG symbol.

  • N2fw

    maybe the g2 mini, no way this is the Nexus5

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Based on what?

    • realizm

      Exactly. Too many things simply don't add up for this to the next nexus. If it somehow is I'll gladly hold on to my nexus 4 for another year. If all this somehow is true myself and many will ignore it mainly due to the shit battery size. Bigger screen, LTE, and about the same size battery is an epic fail waiting to happen.

  • Tim242

    The leaked device is completely square. The FCC pic shows typical Nexus rounding.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It's possible that there are variations in the casing. Or this is not the Nexus. Or the angle was bad.

  • Simon Belmont

    Shut up and take my money. It has pretty much everything I wanted in the Nexus 5, if it is, in fact, the Nexus 5.

    Judging by the Hammerhead name, I'd say it very well could be. Can't wait to find out.

    • Benjamin Pavel

      You forgot that it has to have "insanely great camera", then it will be perfect!

      • Alexei Watson

        and front facing speakers, but even without, it's potentially the best match of phone specs i've seen yet.

  • Zak Taccardi

    So height and width wise, it's smaller than the nexus 4, but with a bigger screen?

    New Nexus (131.9x68.2mm) vs Nexus 4 (133.9 x 68.7 x 9.1 mm)

    Source
    http://www.google.com/nexus/4/specs/

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Correct. Less bezel, presumably.

  • Mike Larrabee

    No band 13, no Verizon. I just died a little today.....

    I knew it was coming, I just wanted to dream a little longer.

  • Zack Nebbaki

    2300 mAh would be enough IMO. I have an N4 and boy did the battery life get better after the 4.3 update.

  • NotToHigh-NotToLow

    Modified version of the LG Vibe X from IFA????

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      That's Lenovo...

  • io53

    Aww man. What I am suppose to do with my HTC One when this is out?

    • TechGuy22

      lol we are in the same boat. but if they don't have dual speakers im gonna stay with HTC ONE

  • David Moore

    The NEXTUS

  • roger

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  • TY

    No speaker opening on the back? YES

    • PhineasJW

      Yes! I noticed this as well. Bottom or front mounted = WIN.

  • Vincentius Valdi

    There is a name on Software version on "5.2 Software & Firmware" - Sangjoon Lee. Apparently, he is a Product Business Leader at LG HQ Korea.

    This is his linkedin page

    http://kr.linkedin.com/pub/jay-sangjoon-lee/15/813/6a3

  • Spetto

    "Battery cover is not supposed to be removed".. Come on, Google

  • PhineasJW

    One other thing ...

    It appears to have four magnets in the back cover. The Palm Pre used magnets for charging alignment.

  • Matthew Wu

    This is the next Nexus!! No doubt

    btw, Body-worn Accessory,,,,Anyone?!?!

  • FritoDorito

    Just in case anyone didn't believe the dimensions, they're perfectly possible to hold the screen size.

    Assuming a 16:9 aspect ratio the screen dimensions can be calculated:

    (16X)^2 + (9X)^2 = 4.96^2

    256X^2 + 81X^2 = 24.6016

    337X^2 = 24.6016

    X^2 = 0.07300178

    X = 0.27018842

    Height = 16 * 0.27018842 = 4.3230147" = 109.80457338mm; about 109.8 mm
    Width = 9 * 0.27018842 = 2.43169578" = 61.765072812mm; about 61.8 mm

    So the top and bottom bezels have a combined 22.1mm length, about 11.05mm above and below the screen if it is centered vertically (which Nexus devices tend to be). That's perfectly reasonable.

    The side bezels would be 6.4mm combined, which is 3.2mm on each side. LG achieved 2.54mm side bezels on the G2, so we know they are capable of creating bezels of this size.

    For comparison, a rough measurement of my Nexus 4 (too lazy to do more math) shows about 19mm top/bottom bezels and about 4mm side bezels.

    • TY

      The G2 has ~3.0 mm bezels, actually, if you do a calculation. The official "bezel" width seem to be misleading.

      • opalelement

        2.65mm according to their press release

  • Vetal

    controlled leaks that are perfectly timed. Note 3, Sony Z1, Iphone 5x, nope we want the nexus 5.

  • Vetal

    these cards are the same size, this just shows you cant always trust what you see.

  • guest

    2300 mAh battery? why? Google why ?!

    • Dan Carter

      Well, since it's smaller than a Nexus 4, a larger battery probably wouldn't fit.

  • http://www.westagemusic.com/ Marc

    It supports wireless charging! But I don't get why the cases are matching up. For me, the camera hole is on the other hand side.

    • GreenyO

      The photo is taken from the *inside* of the device...

      • http://www.westagemusic.com/ Marc

        Ah okay, so a transparent view of the front of the device? It is a bit confusing :D

        • Steve B

          No, that's the back cover off the phone, laying on a flat surface to display the wireless Qi internals.

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    Something fun to look at (of course, everything could be faked, but this data was found before the possible LG D820 Nexus was brought up earlier today).

    The developer of Nova Launcher and WidgetLocker, sent this to me:

    "Hey Artem,

    I have a tiny bit more info for you, mostly it's just confirmation though. In my Nova Launcher analytics I'm seeing:

    Android: KeyLimePie API_18
    Model: LGE Nexus 4
    Build: hammerhead-userdebug KeyLimePie KRS65B 808051 dev-keys
    Screen: width=1080, height=1776, dpi=480, density=x3.0, scaledDensity=x3.0, widthPixels=1080, heightPixels=1776, xdpi=442.451, ydpi=443.345, refreshRate=64.0fps

    Sadly that is all, as the analytics are not well optimized for spotting new Nexus devices :).

    What I gather from it is:

    1) KeyLimePie still being used as an internal identifier (spelled correctly here though). It's also still API 18 (4.3). I saw this before with "JellybeanMR2" being API 17 until it became 4.3 and API 18. They might do this to avoid it being obvious in analytics or maybe they just wait to increment until the API is finalized.

    2) The resolution listed excludes the nav bar, with the navbar (144 pixels at xxhdpi) it's 1080x1920. With the xdpi/ydpi (which are not always accurate) that's 4.97" diagonal.

    3) Still called "LGE Nexus 4". Obviously doesn't mean too much as it also is still called KeyLimePie, but it's interesting."

    In response to my question about the date, he added:

    "The data above (KRS65B) is from September 3rd. I also see a KRS52B from August 22nd (Build: hammerhead-userdebug KeyLimePie KRS52B 790267 dev-keys)."

    If real, these could indeed point to hammerhead, aka D820, being the next Nexus device. It could be masking itself as the Nexus 4, with the final name withheld for now as to not tip anyone off. Same goes for the Android API number. The build looks about right. 1080p display certainly points to the new, updated Nexus. Hammerhead... Very interesting.

    • Alexei Watson

      I just whipped this image up in CAD (Microstation) to see if the measurements of the phone, the screen, and the resolution all match up...

      what do you know, they do.

      • Opalelement

        Should have done 1920 x 1080 to account for on-screen nav bar, not 1776 x 1080. I did the math yesterday and figured out it would still fit, with the 16:9 ratio giving the screen dimensions of about 61.7 mm x 109.7 mm

        • Alexei Watson

          Right you are - I added the nav bar size to the nexus 5. bit more bezel. Our dimensions line up.

          Also, the .png file is A4 with 1:1 scale - so if you have an accurate printer it *should* be real size - use a ruler to check.

          • Dmytro Mykhailenko

            Your Nexus 4 screen dimensions are not correct. Should be 102.90 x 61.74 because it has 16 x 9.6 screen proportions, not 16 x 10.
            That makes width of Nexus 5's screen the same as Nexus 4's.

      • Fatty Bunter

        You accidentally dimensioned the phone width twice for the Nexus 4 and left out the screen width.

        • Alexei Watson

          So I did, I've fixed it, below

    • ThoFeelExp
  • bunnymaid

    I see Japan's frequencies get left out again. Pass.

  • Aleksandr Sofinskiy

    Anyone noticed that the camera is on the left side, but must be on the right? Or the picture on FCC is mirrored (reversed)?

    • Alexei Watson

      looking at the inside of back cover

      • Aleksandr Sofinskiy

        Oh yes) its back cover. not the back of the phone)

  • Patrick Bateman

    3000 mAh and 32gb and i'm in!!!

  • Alexei Watson

    I posted this below in a reply, but here it is again.

    Bigger screen, smaller phone.

    • Thomas’

      Hm, no, not smaller.
      It depends on how the overall diagonal is measured. The Nexus 4 has rounded edges, so measuring it from edge to edge gives me 141mm which is a tiny bit smaller than the new device.

      Of course, if the new device has less round edges (i can't tell from the photo), the size would be almost identically.

      • Alexei Watson

        No? The width of the new device is smaller, the height of it is smaller. It's smaller. No matter how you measure it.

      • Alexei Watson

        It's most definitely smaller. Its less wide and less tall. I used the official measurements of the nexus 4, and the FCC sizes of the nexus 5. The purpose was to illustrate that we get a largerscreen in a smaller foorprint. The aspect ratio, res, and sizes of the rumour all line up

    • kh5

      Wait, the resolution is actually 1920 x 1080 (The navbar isn't included in the resolution value you get from the device). Is your picture still right then?

      • Alexei Watson

        Easily, only makes the screen longer. Thanks :)

      • Alexei Watson

        Oh, if I made it 1920x1080 the screen still fits, just a slight more bezel on the edges to keep the diagonal length at 126mm

      • Alexei Watson

        Fixed :)

  • Robert Blenkinsopp

    The fact that the build images is called "hammerhead" further points towards this being the next nexus device. It fits with the "mako" naming for the current nexus 4 (They are both types of shark).

  • Tomáš Petrík

    If it has the always-listening Google Now, as the Moto X (which it could, given the Snapdragon 800), I'm buying!

  • Kriss

    I wish Google made a budget phone and a premium phone.
    I would be happy to pay 700 dollars if they didn´t cut corners on build quality and parts.
    Too bad it´s not gonna happen.
    To keep the budget crowd happy we now get a small battery, probably shitty screen and 8 GB internal space.

    • PhineasJW

      They do make an expensive phone -- HTC One Google play edition.

  • imperticus

    By those dimension 131.9 x 68.2, it is smaller than the Nexus 4 (133.9 x 68.7).

  • Peter

    Just hoping for 1080p 5" screen with at least 3000 mAh battery, I'd use that phone for ages. But still, with those specs, they won't be able to keep the price down.

    • Dan Carter

      I'm not sure about that. Most phones only cost around 200 bucks to make. I'm willing to bet Google can still sell this thing for 300 bucks.

      3000 mAh battery would be great, but I've never seen one in a phone this small. But hey, the Moto X has a 2200 mAh battery and has great battery life so maybe there's hope.

  • W!ZARD

    2300 mAh battery? Seems I will wait for Ubuntu Edge

  • Christian Cebrian

    I wouldnt mind so much of it didnt include motorola's (google's) always on voice commands but I would definitely love lg g2s features like audio zoom when recording, dual cameras reconding and pictures and other features.

    • Jsilvermist

      The Snapdragon 800 has the LE Voice Recognition chip built in, which is required for the always on voice commands; so you should be able to install the apk from the Moto X.

  • Cybertronic

    N4 = mako
    This one is "hammerhead"
    Both sharks, coincidence??

  • Platon

    I think that google leaked the nexus 5 with purpose

  • wtherrell

    No removable battery + no sd card = no sale.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      You can forget about buying Nexus phones then.

    • Danny Davis

      Beating a dead horse much?

  • Nelson

    Dear Fellow Verizon Customers,

    Do you remember last year reading about the Nexus 4 as it was announced, getting more and more excited about the xmas present you were about to buy yourself? Then that moment of sheer disbelief and sadness that it didn't have LTE and that Google would snub Verizon, the biggest American network? Welp... Looks like that sadness is about to happen all over again..

    • Dan Carter

      Dude, read the article, and be happy.

      "Update #2: This device may indeed support Verizon once it rolls out Band 4 LTE (1700Mhz) later this year."

      • Nelson

        Dude, you don't know what you're talking about.

        Verizon hasn't officially rolled out LTE on Band 4 (AWS) in any market in the country. The entirety of their LTE network operates on Band 13 (700MHz) nationwide, which this phone doesn't support. The phone in this FCC filing also doesn't support 850MHz EVDO (or the right CDMA2000 freq iirc), which Verizon needs for 3G and voice. Verizon would never put a phone on their network that only supports Band 4 LTE and not Band 13.

        Believe me, I consider myself an optimist but this is beyond wishful thinking. Don't call me dude, bro.

        • Dan Carter

          Wow, sensitive. I'm just quoting the article, which states that it may support Verizon in the future. Sounds like the article is wrong then?

          • Nelson

            Ya, the article is very optimistic for verizon and isn't going to shut down all possibilities without having any official announcements yet. Maybe if there is another Verizon variant that has the right bands? This specific exact model though is not the one unfortunately.

          • Dan Carter

            Yeah I just read a more in-depth explanation of the Verizon possibility on Droid Life and looks like you're probably right. I guess we'll know soon.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Unless it'll be VoLTE, which is coming. Chances are quite high that it won't work on Verizon, sure, but there's a chance in the future.

        • funkilla

          Are we forgeting about the near-future (as in possibly before N5) mandate by FCC for 700 Mhz interoperability?

  • Ilya Zhigin

    fucking phone))) yeeeah fucking phone/// FFFFUUUuuu!!!!

  • Miah
  • W!ZARD

    2300 mAh battery? Seems Ill wait for Ubuntu Edge

    • ObviousNinja2

      Yeah seriously.....I was hoping for atleast 2800

  • qriusme

    Just so that people are clear, this phone is SMALLER than the Nexus 4, which can only mean it has a smaller bezel.

    Nexus 4: 133.9mm X 68.7mm

    Potential Nexus 5: 131.9mm X 68.2mm

  • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

    The camera and flash holes on the rear housing appears to be in the opposite side...

    • Josh Legoza

      I thought the same thing when I first saw it. Are we alone in this?

      • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

        I guess so...

        • Josh Legoza

          Here's an article I'm in the middle of that goes into the fact that nexii (nexuses?) typically use the same internals of an existing new phone. (Optimus G in the case of the N4) and that the camera on the G2 isn't in the same place as it is in that video: http://androidandme.com/2013/09/opinions/what-are-the-chances-the-next-nexus-phone-is-a-sony-device/

          I don't agree that it is the Xperia z1 though, cause that camera seems too close to the corner when compared to the mystery nexus.

        • Josh Legoza

          Just looked at again, and I've changed my mind. In the first image in this article, that's the inside rear of the phone. I thought it was the front (despite the words above it. DUMB!). The camera is on the same side as the leak when you look at it correctly.

          • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            Yeah I rechecked my self after the d*** TY said something to me above... It looked like the inside of the phone with out the back on...

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        It's the other side.

    • TY

      The FCC photo is the INSIDE of the cover... I really don't understand how people get confused. Will you see coils outside the phone? Does the FCC photo have "nexus" on it? Just curious.

      • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

        It looks like a phone with out the back cover to me, not the cover it's self...

        • TY

          OK, I'll try to explain:
          the FCC photo is the inside of the battery cover of the phone. If you flip the cover over, you will see the nexus logo on that side.

          • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            Dude, did your old lad not f*** you today? I'm not a moron, I don't appreciate your hostility...

          • TY

            Seriously, I'm trying to help you understand why the openings are on the same side in the images. I did not intend to be rude or anything like that. Sorry if I offended you.

          • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            I looked after the first time you said something and came to realize what you pointed out... And I was just pointing out what I thought it was...

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      No, they're not.

      • https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kodiak+211 Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

        Yes, I've already been through this with TY...

  • brkshr

    I swear! You guys find anything to complain about! For ~$350 this phone is awesome!!!!!

    • someone755

      It might have the best processor ever, a 4-quadrilion-mAh battery, an infinite-pixel camera. Might be the best phone ever created, even!
      The one thing that bugs me is that phones are sizing up. Why does nobody do what Motorola did to the X? 4.7" screen (720p, because that's over-the-top enough), in a really small body. If the size of this new N5 is bigger than the HTC One, I'll pass.

  • wierzbik

    I'd love new nexus with 5" (or bigger) screen and 32Gb storage :)

  • Christopher Easton

    Lets hope it has NFC

    • Trevor Kinsie

      It will. And it already shows that it does.

  • Crazy_all_around

    Isn't the camera supposed to be on the left side???

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I can't believe so many people are having trouble with this. Imagine the guy with the phone puts it down face up. Where's the camera now? Exactly the same spot as the one in the FCC pics.

  • tpony

    Didn't a spokesperson for LG say they weren't going to create another nexus device (not surprinsing given the problems they ended up having meeting demand for the N4)?
    Also, how-about that HUGE camera sensor window? Here's hoping that means they've really up'd the sensor-size.

  • WhyWai

    man... I hope Sony make the next Nexus. Then I don't need to choose between Xperia and Nexus for my next phone...

  • Thomas’

    "@evleaks
    Sorry Nexus fans: LG D820 is just a CDMA G2 variant."

  • http://www.snapdeal.com/ Mohan

    I do not trust easily on brands specially when it comes to buy a mobile as every new week a new smartphone is born & same I can see for LG D820. The specs look more compelling specially the camera review. Both Google & Lg would emerge a s better connection for launching next generation smartphones. Although I found my favorite Lg device from Snapdeal - http://www.snapdeal.com/products/mobiles-mobile-phones where it is easy to find & compare specs for the most wanted device be it LG or other.
    It's good that I have spotted an interesting specs for the new device nexus