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Samsung's Galaxy Note 10.1 is due for a refresh along with its smartphone cousin. If you've been waiting for a high-end Samsung tablet (or just a tablet that's considerably larger than the current 10-inch breed), the folks at Korean site MovePlayer may have spotted it. A single photo of a hitherto unseen Galaxy Note 12.2 bearing the obviously huge screen and Samsung's increasingly ridiculous physical Home button was leaked earlier today.

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According to the leak, the newest Galaxy Note's 12.2" screen uses a 2560x1600 panel, which seems to be the de-facto standard for high-end Android tablets at 10" or larger. Further hardware details are left to the imagination, but it's a safe bet that a Samsung device in this configuration would be intended as a flagship tablet. That would make sense considering how Samsung is pushing the Note series towards the high end of the market and the Tab series towards the low end. If this is an authentic photo, it represents a slight shift in Samsung's industrial design: the corners of the tablet are considerably more rounded than the Galaxy Tab 3 series. This would be in line with the more perpendicular look indicated by leaked photos of the Galaxy Note III's screen. As the screens get larger, the physical Home button and flanked capacitive menu and back buttons that Samsung's tablets have inherited from the smartphones seem even more unwieldy.

I'd recommend caution on this particular leak. First of all it's a single, low-resolution, press-style image, which makes it quite easy to fake. That said, it fits in with Samsung's design philosophy as of late, both in terms of physical design and in scoping out all product niches. It's possible that such a device could debut in the Galaxy Tab or Galaxy Note series, perhaps next week at Samsung's pre-IFA event in Berlin.

While a Note 12.2 would be relatively huge, it wouldn't take the title of largest Android tablet yet. Disregarding alternate form factors, Toshiba released a 13.3-inch tablet in early 2012.

Source: MovePlayer via Notebook Italia

Jeremiah Rice
Jeremiah is a US-based blogger who bought a Nexus One the day it came out and never looked back. In his spare time he watches Star Trek, cooks eggs, and completely fails to write novels.
  • parkerjh

    I find nothing ridiculous with that physical home button- actually quite like it.

    • Andrew

      But back button. And menu button. Somebody at Samsung must really love Android 2.3

      • TheFirstUniverseKing

        I don't get why that's a problem. If it's like other new Samsung devices, you just turn those hardware key lights off and the back and menu buttons will literally be invisible. That's how I use my Note 2. They're simply giving the user the option to use those keys if they wish. They know advanced users could always root for software keys, if they're that desired.

        • BlackBoy88

          thanks for your comment. it gives users a CHOICE. I f***ing hate software buttons in Android.

          • sivkai

            I can safely say you are in the minority with that view.

          • Rovex

            Sales say otherwise. Samsung is winning.

          • Joshua Hill

            How can you safely say that when Samsung is the most popular Android smartphone manufacturer and they include physical buttons?

          • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

            (and Rovex) - slippery argument! Samsung is winning, but is it _because_ of hardware buttons? I don't see the connection, really.

          • Joshua Hill

            Completely agree there is no evidence to suggest a correlation between Samsung's dominance and the existence of physical buttons on their devices. Despite that it has more relevance than @sivkai:disqus's 'safely' statement which is completely unsubstantiated speculation. I notice this didn't stop you 'liking' that 'slippery' statement.

          • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

            You're right. It's not a safe statement.

        • Chris P

          I made a comment one level up in this thread, but I'll summarise here:
          While I really like onscreen buttons (though more apps need to know when to hide them), I know that there's a place for off-screen buttons.
          What I fell there isn't a place for is the menu button, which, for some unknown reason, Samsung won't let die, despite it being a 'legacy' feature since Honeycomb (or ICS, really). It's a button that, unlike Back and Home, is only useful if the app needs it, but there's no way to know without pressing it at every step. To make matters worse, the legacy menu button HIDES the action bar overflow, meaning it STILL has to be pressed at every turn to know if it's even needed or not. There's nothing to indicate the overflow exists, or that it's hidden, and Samsung seem to be the last big manufacturer to NOT let the sodding thing go. ((dis)honourable mentions go to LG and Oppo, for every device and the Find 5 respectively)

          ...this was meant to be a summary. Apparently not. My bad. :/

      • mark

        Aren't they the standard back and app-switch buttons that are standard on Android 4.x? I assume they would be the same that's on the other Samsung Galaxy devices.

        • Chris P

          Samsung and Android standards aren't keen bedfellows, it seems. They don't use the app-switch button, opting for a menu button that has been a legacy feature since Android 4.0. :/

      • Chris P

        A lot of people are arguing that these buttons aren't so bad, but while I love on-screen buttons, the *legacy* menu button IS bad. There's a reason Android 3.x and 4.x have tried to remove it in favour of contextual overflow things - having a button that only does what it says it does IF the app needs it to is counterintuitive.
        I have an Xperia T, running its stock Jelly Bean build (laugh at the poor sod who got a 2012 Sony flagship), and my partner's Xperia P runs the same version, also stock. The Xperia P, having shipped with Gingerbread has a menu button, and I used this phone at some point, and was actually surprised how long it took me to find missing menu elements most of the time, 'cause the Gingerbread menu button hides the overflow by default.
        It might give you an extra few pixels of horizontal real estate on action bars and such, but it is a right pain NOT having it there.

        • Rovex

          All Googles fault for insisting, wrongly, on the softkeys in the first place.

    • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

      What if you want to use the tablet in the vertical orientation?

      • Kenny O

        You're holding it wrong.

        • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

          ... And that's why I prefer tablets that don't try to tell me how I should be using my device :)

          • Kenny O

            Exactly.

          • si3ge

            im surprised Samsung has the time to contact you directly with demands on how to use their products.

      • TheFirstUniverseKing

        Why would you hold a tablet that large vertically? Wouldn't the weight distribution feel weird?

        • carlisimo

          Because that size would be great for reading .pdfs.

        • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

          Like carlissimo said before me, the reading experience would be great =)

          • TheFirstUniverseKing

            Good thing you won't need to use the menu or back buttons to read. =)

          • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

            Well, that was _one_ example. Any apps that include scrolling (like when I'm looking through a playlist in Play Music) are better handled vertically, reading long websites (news ones, for instance, like AP itself) too, and anyway, if I just wanted to handle the tablet the way I want those buttons are a nuisance.

          • Matt

            Adding bookmarks/notes quickly. Switching what .pdf you're looking at.

        • shonangreg

          Watch an artist while sketching/drawing/painting. Portrait and landscape mode are both popular ways to orient their paper/canvas.

          I don't know how big the market is for this, but a 12" Note is going to be a killer product for graphic artists. I have a 10" ThinkPad Tablet (also with an active stylus (and even more hardware buttons)), and it is just a little too small for natural drawing strokes. I wish Samsung the best on this.

      • mark

        What's stopping you still pressing the button in that orientation?

        On my Galaxy Nexus phone, I note that in landscape mode, the virtual buttons remain fixed in place (and hence appear at the side when in landscape mode), so even on Nexus devices there is not the consistency that they are always at the bottom.

        Whilst it's cool that the Nexus 7 can be used in any orientation, sometimes I wish that my Nexuses had a visual cue for up or down, as I'm often picking it up the wrong way, which causes problem when I'm looking for the on button or the micro USB port...

        • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

          It's an awkward placement that is not justified by an improvement in usability. It's not easier, more convenient or even more intuitive (I think I and a lot of other people would stop for a sec to picture the buttons "tilted" to decide which one we want to press).

          Besides, when you hold it vertically you'll have to hold it carefully so that the palm doesn't touch any button by mistake.

      • Joshua Hill

        Then the buttons are on the side and not the bottom. What's the big deal with that?

        • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

          Sigh... I won't rephrase all the discussion that's already on the other threads, ain't nobody got time fo dat =/

          • Joshua Hill

            I don't know if you mean other stories or this thread. You certainly haven't presented any reason on this thread that I can see. Just that you find it 'awkward' without justifying why.

            I own a SGS2 with physical buttons and a 2012 N7 with capacitive buttons and both are perfectly usable and both still have minor quirks. Nothing serious enough to describe either as awkward or bash them on threads like this.

          • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

            If you hold the tablet in another orientation, "you're holding it wrong" - so it's a more limited experience. You're more likely to hit the buttons by mistake (I own an S3 so your evidence is countered by mine - and I even use a wallet-like case). I think those are two reasons.

            Edit: you just had me get out of my way of laziness to answer this. You're good. Reeeally good :)

          • Joshua Hill

            If you hold the device in another orientation you are not 'holding it wrong'. There is no law or rule that says buttons must be placed at the bottom of the device. In just over 2 years of owning my S2 I can count on both hands the number of times I have accidentally pressed back on my S2 because of the way I was holding it in either landscape or portrait. I find it more likely to press back accidentally while rotating the device.

            Sorry for interrupting your laziness. It is nice to actually find someone on a thread that you can disagree with and have a discussion without resorting to name calling.

          • http://petercast.net Peterson Silva

            Haha, it's ok, I enjoy such moments too ^^

            But yeah, that's exactly the point!! "There is no law or rule that says buttons must be placed at the bottom of the device" - that's why I think software buttons are perfect, because they adapt to the orientation you choose for the task at hand :) I'm not advocating Sammy's hardware buttons on the bottom. I'm advocating no buttons at all.

          • Joshua Hill

            I don't know if it's possible to alter the position of software, capacitive buttons to be to the users liking but they do default to the bottom. Google certanily does seem to have it's own rule that buttons should be at the bottom. For me I actually prefer my buttons on the side when using my device in landscape mode. It seems to make best use of the available screen space.

            I don't think I'm losing any of the 16:10 ratio in landscape with the buttons on the bottom but it feels more like 16:9.

      • si3ge

        you.... turn it?

  • oguzbilgener

    HAHAHAHA this thing looks really funny.
    Wait. The photo looks as if it's fake.

  • Roger Siegenthaler

    I for one actually enjoy 10" or larger tablets, especially seeing as the note can perfectly replace a block of paper for school even though it is a bit to small at 10.1" so 12" might alleviate that :).

    • Nick Sears

      centre bttons not good for too big tabs

      • Roger Siegenthaler

        Agreed :D

  • Wazzifer

    It doesn't look thick enough to fit an S Pen inside a slot. But that's just me. Either way my Gnote 10.1 is eager to retire.

  • deltatux

    Can someone remind Samsung that on screen navigation has been available for 2+ years now? They're one of the few who are still adament with them... at first I resisted but once I got my Nexus 4 and my tablet, I wouldn't want physical navigation buttons.

    • Carl Dean Catabay

      Unless they have plans of changing the way we can access recovery and download mode, HWKeys will remain.

      • deltatux

        well, they could simply use the power key + either vol up or down for those modes. The Nexus line uses power key + vol down for fastboot. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus also included a download mode too (even though not needed due to fastboot) and is accessed with a similar key combination.

      • Casey Kline

        My Galaxy S4 doesn't use the home key to access anything unless its fully booted. Recovery and download mode both use the volume keys for changing the selection and power to make the selection.

    • elmaco

      It looks ugly, but it sells

      (some best buy clerk posted on reddit while back claiming most normal people who walked into the tablet section couldn't figure out how to "turn on" these expensive rectangle shaped wonderful things of future , well except the fruity ones)

    • Charlie Val

      Wasted space. Even though it's only a small portion.

      • Krzysztof Jozwik

        Make the screen bigger?

    • HitokiriX

      I personally love physical buttons.

      • New_Guy

        As do i, but this thing is too big to have them in the middle. Center justified hardware keys should really be limited to 8" and under.

        • Rovex

          The softkeys are also central on recent versions of Android, thats an even worse solution.

      • common man

        Me too.

        I love having at least 1 physical button. Human beings are meant to have tactile feedback that doesn't cause unintentional inputs.

        Touch is usually a novelty, not a practicality.

    • hot_spare

      What's wrong with physical buttons? And if you don't like one (like Nexus family), don't bother. It's simply not for you. Why do you think that Samsung has to do exactly what others are doing? Obviously, there is a large market who doesn't mind having physical buttons.

      • deltatux

        Well for one, it's not user configurable, I honestly never liked how Samsung laid out their capacitive buttons. With soft buttons, if you don't like it, you get the option of configuring it.

        Secondly, it breaks the Holo UX guidelines since there shouldn't be a button for menus since everything should be done with the Action Menu or the menu drawer as laid out in the Holo UX guideline. It breaks the user experience.

        • hot_spare

          It's "guideline". Not a mandatory thing. Samsung will do their best to differentiate the product. Their objective is not to follow what google says, their objective is to make the product stand out in the crowd of other devices. I think they are least bothered about android/google guidelines.

          How you judge it, is totally something different. Someone guys don't like it, others don't mind.

    • Simple Buyer

      Screen navigation isn't available in recovery mode, or anytime other than after the OS loads. So, yeah, maybe *you* don't need a hardware button. I'm glad Android devices are to the point where users can forget about the mechanics behind the magic.

  • miri

    Though a stylus-centric device is probably best without a nav bar, I still say that looks ridiculous.

  • Herman

    It looks like an Xperia Tablet Z but with Samsung's name and buttons on it.

    This is most probably a fake though. 'Press' images often come a long time after initial leaks.

  • Oobiewan

    Regardless of wether this leak is legit or not, I cannot imagine what the hell is Samsung trying to prove with these physical buttons. They can be usable in some cases, but if you have to choose between having them and not having them, the latter is the obvious good option...

  • Nick Sears

    Wow, so huge screen with central buttons. Like wutt?

    • Rovex

      Which would also be the same if it had software buttons, they would also be central. Remember Google removed the 'tablet' design from Android, so all buttons are now central.

  • sivkai

    Samsung should rename itself to 'Button'.

  • robert

    On screen nav buttons are nice but take away screen space, is be ok if they would hide while playing a game and sometimes they turn into dots in certain apps and that's ugly, 2 Yeats of having them and still they havnt gotten any nicer

  • Sean Lumly

    Samsung strikes me as a company that doesn't just do things randomly because they _seem_ like good ideas. I remember back when they released their original Galaxy Tab (the 7" one) and commented specifically that they did extensive consumer research that indicated that 7" was loved by consumers. They were ridiculed for this partially due to the $599 price, but mostly due to the 7" size which tech-bloggers prematurely claimed would be ridiculous and promptly dismissed the product. It is only 3 years later and we all *love* our Nexus 7 devices.

    Such may be the case with physical buttons. We like to think that because we are tech-savy, we know what would make a good product, but the truth is, because of our comfort with tech and our low-level understanding of these devices, we may be more out of touch with the general consumer than we would care to admit. I would bet that Samsung has thoroughly researched on-screen buttons, and may have found them not to resonate well with consumers -- iPad's sell very well with a physical button, right? It may also be much more challenging to sell a refreshed product that may differ confusingly to their target market.

    While we may find it cumbersome to use physical buttons, general consumers may find it familiar and intuitive. This feature may also make it more attractive to convert the competitions users which expect this.

    Samsung rules (by a huge margin, I might add) the Android roost. They must be doing something right...

    • shonangreg

      I remember handing my Nexus 7 (2012) to an iPad using friend. The first thing he did was to say, "Where's the 'on' button?" I had to tell him it was hidden behind one of the edges, depending on which way you're holding it. "No, not that one. That is the volume rocker. Let me see (flips the tablet over). Here, this one." The intuitive appeal of Apple's single button was made obvious in that moment.

      • Roh_Mish

        They get disabled on note 2 while using s pen

      • Krzysztof Jozwik

        You found out the appeal of the single button on the face when a moron couldn't find a button on the side? Sure when you first get the device you might need to look for it, but it's normally on the upper right or top depending on the OEM, it's not hard to find, and once you know where it is, there's no more hunting for it.

        • si3ge

          not already knowing how to power on a nexus7 does not, a moron make. this example actually backs up my reasons as well. I am an android guy all the way but my son (almost 2yo) loves the intuitive functionality of the ipad. and when i say intuitive functionality im pretty much talking about the button. thats it. Its tactile, its easy to find, and its a "save-me!" button for anything going on. he just hits that and hes back to looking for other kid-apps or games or movies.

  • Godspoken

    The buttons are horrid but I'm a huge fan of the size.

    • Sean Lumly

      I really like the size as well. To be honest, I would gladly pay a bit more for a top-of-line 12" tablet with pen support and a good keyboard docking option. I'm certainly not the average consumer, but from a productivity standpoint 10" is a bit small, and a 12" pen-driven slate could be very useful.

    • nejai

      my 18 months old son is able to use my note because the physical home button, is so intuitive, he has figure it out how to wake the phone, go home screen if he get lost in the interface or navigate trough recent apps using a long press..

  • Rovex

    I think Android forums are full of Nexus users. Sorry guys but Samsung outsells nexus devices many many many times over. People clearly like their stuff, including the hardware keys.

    I have to say, I have a Nexus 10 and an HTC One, and I do miss the hardware home key. Just because the Nexus does something, it doesnt mean its right. I for one think Google have it wrong and im not alone.

    • Sean Lumly

      This.

      Regardless of how I personally feel about on-screen buttons, the OP is right: the numbers do not lie. Samsung is dominating the competition given these hardware choices.

      I personally like the style of their devices (I was shocked at how slim and good looking I found the S4 to look in person given the public outcry), and seriously wish that my Nexus devices's screens weren't robbed of usable screen real-estate with the on-screen buttons (give me an auto-hide function already!).

      • Krzysztof Jozwik

        Just because they sell the best and have physical buttons doesn't mean the physical buttons are selling them.

      • Rovex

        Unfortunately we are wasting our time. The more rabid nexus users will not hear anything against their precious devices. If Google were to revert to hardware keys in Android 5 it would be the best thing ever to them. They are the android equivalent of the iSheep.

        I have an N10, but im well aware of its faults.

    • nsnsmj

      Really? That's such a terrible argument. Buttons have nothing to do with why Samsung sells a lot of devices.

      You don't even have to be a Nexus user to realize how bad it is to put buttons like that on an Android tablet, especially in landscape.

      • Rovex

        Actually the hardware button does drive sales. Most Samsung owners I know cite the hardware button as a reason for buying. As an Ex-Samsung owner I miss it.

        Half the problem is that Android puts the software buttons right in the middle, just as far away, harder to use, and it takes screen space. Why is that better exactly? Samsungs have some of the smallest bezels as well, so you cant use the argument that it robs the device of screen area.

        • Krzysztof Jozwik

          "Samsungs have some of the smallest bezels as well"
          Out of which OEMs, if they're in the top 5 that's not saying much.

          • Rovex

            Smaller bezels than HTCs, any Nexus (especially the massively bezeled N4), any Sony Xperia or ZTE device. Only the new LG G2 has smaller bezels.

    • Stacey Liu

      They're outselling Nexus devices because no normal person even knows what a "Nexus" is. Most people don't know what an HTC One is either. But Samsung has built a brand with "Galaxy" and people recognize that name anywhere. When you have entire stands dedicated to Galaxy devices at Best Buy and such, what do you expect? More market presence means more sales.

      Very few of the people buying these phones are looking at the buttons or SD card slot.

      • Joshua Hill

        In my experience just as many android owners know what a HTC One is as a Galaxy S4 (these are every day low wage retail workers in Australia, not techies).

      • Rovex

        How do you know? Thats not my experience at all. your just making stuff up that fits your worldview. Face it, what you seem to want (or have been told to want by Google), isnt the popular choice.

    • Rubin

      /*I am NOT an Apple fan*/

      Enough with the sales. There was a time when Apple outsold everyone by leaps and bounds. It doesn't mean that their product is good. People think of it as a status symbol and get it to look cool.

      Samsung is the new Apple. People think it is "iconic" and original.
      A "revolution" to the norm.
      It sells because people think it's the trend. And a trend, it is.

      /*I am NOT an Apple fan*/

      • Rovex

        Rubbish. The problem is far to many Nexus fanboys cant see the wood for the trees. Samsung sell devices people want to buy. Noticed that tghe big sellers have a single hardware central key? Apple, Samsung. The niche sellers that sell hardly anything, like the Nexus devices, have the software keys. You do the maths.

        Apple never outsold everyone by leaps and bounds actually. It had the best selling single model, but at no point was Apple the largest seller.

        • Krzysztof Jozwik

          I do notice that Samsung has the central key just like Apple, I'm not surprised either. The central key has less to do with sales and more to do with Samsung copying Apple. Legacy menu button? Are you fucking kidding me?

          • j¤n Gårrëtt [5,000+]

            iDiot, apple was not the first and or only company to have a central key. my Samsung t-809 of 2005 had one as well.

          • Krzysztof Jozwik

            The T-809 has several keys on it's face. Not the single button approach they're going with now.

        • Rubin

          Why don't you ask the little girls at school why they bought the S4.
          Surely for the home button.

          • Rovex

            What girly reason did you buy your phone? Softkeys give you more room for hello kitty stickers?

          • Rubin

            Bought mine cause it's waterproof.

    • hocestquisumus

      That's a question of marketing. Google markets the Nexus line to enthusiasts who want the newest software, all the time. But that's only a tiny percentage of Android users. Most don't even know there's such a thing as 'updates', and they don't care as long as stuff works. Look at how many Gingerbread devices still float around.

      I don't think Google wants it any other way. Their hardware is for showcasing, not to turn a profit.

      Sammy likes to sell to everyone. Their marketing budget is in the billions and they build devices that are the lowest common denominator.

      • Rovex

        Maybe, but I still think softkeys are the wrong way to do things, especially on tablets as Android stands now. The 'phone' type interface with the central softkeys is just horrible. Its why there are so many ROMs for the N7 and N10 with the keys moved or alternative systems.

  • obarthelemy

    I want physical buttons. They click, i know where they are, and best of all they don't eat up screen space !

    • Krzysztof Jozwik

      You don't know where on screen keys are?

      • obarthelemy

        not to the point where I can reliably click them w/o looking, as I do the physical ones.

        • Krzysztof Jozwik

          So you want to use the buttons on your device while not looking at it? How the hell do you know what you're doing then?

          • obarthelemy

            I want to click buttons while looking at the rest of the screen, for example, call up the menu without having to look for the button, then go back to looking at the menu. Or go to the home screen and check my mail again w/o having to take my eyes off the main area of the screen.

          • Krzysztof Jozwik

            These aren't 72" tablets, you should be able to see the whole screen all the time.

          • si3ge

            youre trying to reason all of us out of liking the button. its not going to happen. yes these are not 72" tablets but saying that you like being able to automatically hit that button without looking or thinking is valid. humans are built with muscle memory and we like to use it when and where we can. The preference of liking a physical button on your device is out there and people have valid reasons for liking and not liking it... but i just really doubt your going to find a statement that makes all of us moronic for wanting it.

          • Krzysztof Jozwik

            Your whole muscle memory point invalidates your statement. If they're physical or on-screen you should be able to know where they are without looking...

      • shonangreg

        I was using my unrooted Nexus 7b yesterday, and on some app my buttons totally disappeared. I didn't know what to do, actually. I happened to turn it to landscape mode and the buttons reappeared. It may have been a UI crash. If I had had physical buttons it wouldn't have been a problem.

  • http://kawangeek.com/ EddyGeek

    having button is nice, however they need to change the button design / concept.. wew.

  • Alex Murphy

    Couldn't Sammy just call it the Note 12 lol? Is the .2 really that important?

  • TheRealCBONE

    Glad samsung is sticking with the physical buttons. The stupid onscreen buttons suck. Literally. Sucking up screen space and lowering useful resolution. Why is google so stuck on them? They don't even autohide!

  • Stacey Liu

    That device looks like it's 16:9 instead of 16:10, so i don't think it can be 2560x1600. (Assuming it's even real).

  • quietguy75

    Hardware buttons ok whatever , but this looks like they might have ditched the dual front speakers.... Now that's a reason to get upset. I love those on my Note 10.1.

  • Chris P

    ...why.
    ...why is there a Gingerbread menu button.
    ...on a tablet. A 13" one to boot, if this render is the real thing.
    It's almost 2014. Ice Cream Sandwich came out in 2011.
    WTF. Samsung, staaaahp.

    • j¤n Gårrëtt [5,000+]

      is this an official Samsung image?

  • hocestquisumus

    Guys... that's a photoshopped Xperia Tablet Z. If not, Sammy's probably in for another round in court.

  • Keeks

    Physical Button are sometimes important for force home action when the device get stucked ....so I personally prefer them...

    • Krzysztof Jozwik

      "when the device gets stucked" the physical buttons won't work either.

      • Rovex

        Actually they do. Screen freezes tend not to affect the physical buttons because they are controlled at a lower level.

  • Chris

    What is Samsung's obsession with physical buttons. Its about time they got with the times and used the on screen navigation buttons same as the devices do.

    • j¤n Gårrëtt [5,000+]

      on screen buttons take up space., makes you use a smaller display or a larger frame. ie One vs S4.

      • Krzysztof Jozwik

        Neither of those have on screen keys...

  • hot_spare
  • ari_free

    Great size to draw and work on

  • DoubleP90

    I'm never gonna buy a phone or tablet with HW buttons

    • spydie

      I wouldn't buy one without!!!!!

      • DoubleP90

        Why? i don't see any advantages in hw buttons, they just take space on the device, there's something more that can be broken.

        Software buttons, the space that a hw button would take it's taken by the screen, cleaner look, when you watch a movie they just disappear

  • j¤n Gårrëtt [5,000+]

    wow, what's with all the stupid comments below., first time Ive ever seen this on Android Police. this nonsense is what Im used to seeing on Techno Buffalo but never here.

  • Joel

    As much as I don't like the home button. Its saved me a lot of trouble on my S3. I've dropped it and messed up the power button. So I had to remove it. With the home button. I was able to still get the screen on without having to stick something in where the power button was everytime. And I was rooted so I just had a screen off option in my pull down tray.

  • someone755

    Wow, it actually looks cool. Besides the idiotic home button, but I'd liv-- AAAAaaand, the price is 700€+...

  • egghead

    I don't care what it looks like. As long as it has a good SPen and lots of SPen enabled apps, i'm buying it. I've always valued function over form. And since i draw using my Galaxy Note, having physical buttons would reduce accidental presses on the notification bar and home/back/menu on-screen buttons. So i really don't mind the physical button.

  • sguyx

    Leave that stupid button away! Put it into the side!

  • si3ge

    as a techie person, i dont really care. i can use physical or on-screen.
    as a parent however, PHYSICAL NAV BUTTONS YES.
    i can explain.
    i have given my son access to a plethora of electronic devices to see how he handles them and hopefully they help him learn... we have given him access to a transformer prime and an ipad2. he will choose the ipad over the android device every day of the week, hands down, no question. the reason is the physical button. he just gets it. he knows that whever he is he can go press that button that is always there, never moving around on the screen, to get back to the home screen. I'm sure we could put some effort and time into teaching him about the little house icon and the back button and so forth... but why make it so complicated for him? the physical button for him is just intuitive. he learned it the first day he got a hold of the thing and its always his go-to for getting himself out of trouble (opening up a screen he doesnt know how to use).
    so again, even though i personally could care less for my own purposes... this is definitely something that would (on its own) make me consider buying this tablet if i was in the market.

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