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Call it too ambitious, ahead of its time, or just plain not a very good idea - it doesn't really matter at this point: former Canonical CEO Mark Shuttleworth's Ubuntu-powered smartphone crowdfunding campaign has all but fizzled at this point.

While the campaign achieved over 10% of its total funding goal in the first 24 hours of the campaign - a whopping $3.4 million, setting an Indiegogo record - progress slowed quickly as the week went on. After around 3 days, that number was just above $4 million, and as of this writing eight full days into the campaign, the figure sits at $7.4 million with 22 days remaining.

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Sorry guys, it just isn't going to happen. Not unless something truly crazy transpires. Even if you average out the per day funding Edge has received to date, they'd still be a few million dollars short if they kept up this pace through the end of the campaign. And that's not going to be the case - it never is with projects like this. Crowdfunding campaigns with high initial public visibility - and I doubt you'll find one that got a lot more than Edge did - always start hot, with per day funding decreasing thereafter. Even if all of the fifty top-tier $80,000 Enterprise 100 bundles were purchased (none have been), the Edge still probably couldn't meet its goal by August 21st given the rapid decline of funding in the last few days.

The campaign received a temporary boost a few days ago when new tiers were added for, basically, donations at the $20 and $50 level ($50 even includes a shirt!), but it's hard to see the good will of the community pushing the Edge over... the edge.

Say what you will about how realistic an idea it was, its feasibility, or its credibility, you have to admit - it was ambitious. While this campaign will almost certainly fail to fund, one can hope the Edge concept might, at the least, inspire some new products.

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David Ruddock
David's phone is whatever is currently sitting on his desk. He is an avid writer, and enjoys playing devil's advocate in editorials, and reviewing the latest phones and gadgets. He also doesn't usually write such boring sentences.

  • begadkepat

    Well, yeah, /with that attitude/. :)

    • TY

      Why not be more optimistic and spread the words? :/
      If the campaign fails, it's everyone's loss. There is no reason at all to help make it fail.

      • NexusKoolaid

        I prefer realism to optimism. I'd like to see this work out, but the numbers don't lie.

        • TY

          I understand that, if the trend continues, it is unlikely to happen.
          But my point is that the success of the campaign will benefit everyone, so why not help make it happen?

          The reason why this is crowd-funded is because companies are unconvinced that demand for such a super-phone is great enough. However, I believe this kind of device is the dream phone of most of us here. Latest and greatest specs? Check. Newest technologies? Check. Premium, ultra durable materials? Check. Customizable like a Nexus device? Check!

          If this campaign succeed, other manufacturers will finally understand that the demand exists. More phones like this, with cutting-edge technology, will emerge. That's what I hope for.

          • GigiAUT

            While some of us are still using 2010 phone models because we can't convince ourselves to shell out €600~ for unlocked, high-end phones. I can't even justify spending in excess of €300 for something I only use as a phone, organiser, and messenger.

          • Sqube

            Well, here's the cold truth of that. The demand apparently DOESN'T exist. If it did, we wouldn't be talking about how all the true believers got in at the very beginning and could only get it a quarter of the way there.

            I don't want to believe that. I want high-end, unlocked phones with support for every LTE and GSM frequency in the world so I can use them no matter what. But paying $800 for a maybe is a tough pill to swallow, especially since they take the money immediately (unlike Kickstarter). Frankly, I wonder what would have happened if they had just made a prototype and then gone to Kickstarter with it.

      • palkov

        Where there's a will there's a way.
        Seems the writer is pessimistic too much.

  • http://www.twitter.com/darrylcobb maxrobes2000

    32 Million has to be one of the largest asking kickstarter ever though. I'm surprised it's at 7+ million.

    • Jordan DeBarth

      Mobilicity is looking for $400,000,000 IIRC for their current Indiegogo project.

      • jimmyjyc

        It's not Mobilicity themselves. It's some guy hoping to buy Mobilicity.

        • popey

          ..and it appears to have been yanked.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      Yeah, they got further than I expected, frankly. But it just goes to show - building a phone isn't cheap, and it isn't easy to convince 40,000 people to buy into a $700+ product they might not get for a year or more.

      • Veridor

        I agree, David. I LOVE the idea of Ubuntu Edge (and sapphire crystal instead of glass...can you say "dat glass?"), but $700-800 is a lot for people to shell out for a phone in general, let alone one you might not see ever, if not for a year or more as you pointed out.

  • Micah Madru

    Unless someone wealthy pushes it across the threshold with a sizeable contribution.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      It could happen. They'd have to add the "Obvious investor is obvious" $20 million tier, though.

      • Matthew Fry

        For all we know this could be a publicity stunt. They say, "We had 15 million in end user dollars for a product that doesn't even exist yet. Imagine how many more will buy when it's sitting on a store shelf next to a phone that does less?"

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

          You should be in PR.

  • mgamerz

    You apparently don't seem to understand that most funding is typically raised just before the deadline. Articles like this also seem to be pretty negative in their tone.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      There's a final rush before a campaign ends - with a massive lull in the middle. But most? Yeah, I'll need a source for that, because I'm 95% sure it's not true.

    • squiddy20

      At least half of the Kickstarter articles featured here at AP pass their goals within days of their being put up. Vavo, NFC Ring Control, Pebble, Wig-Wag, Modo, and Capta come to mind. Take a look for yourself: http://www.androidpolice.com/?s=kickstarter

      • mgamerz

        Yeah, but that doesn't always reflect most kickstarter projects. I guess having a multimillion dollar goal probably skews it a bit, but I've watched a lot of kickstarter projects pull in like 50% of their funding in the last 2 days of the the target. Some that would be pretty interesting died with less than a hundred dollars to go. That's got to suck.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/cody-toombs/ Cody Toombs

      It's true that some have done this. That most funding is raised at the end? Not even close...

      Relatively few Kickstarter/Indigogo campaigns have found success in the 11th hour, and of those that I've heard of, they are usually over 50% funded by the end of their first week. Several of those are also striving to hit goals in the $10k - $30k range, which isn't that hard to muster up with a last ditch advertising push. I'm not sure I believe it's plausible to get people to shovel forward a collective, let's say $15 million, in 2-3 days.

  • http://www.modminecraft.com/ Nick Coad

    Possibly the problem here is that their target demographic is people who only get excited for free software. They're not the easiest people to separate from their money...

    • vitriolix

      Those people have raised over $7.5 million in a couple days for a non existent product

  • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

    I love the idea of this device.

    I hate the idea of shelling out $700 today to get one.

    • Matthew Fry

      It is pretty painful. I know everybody is like, "It's more functional than a smart phone at about the same price!" but the reality is, I shell out $650 over a year for an HTC One so I can have it today. If you'd asked me to pay for it in full a year in advance of receiving it? Not a chance.

    • TY

      Well, you are allowed to return the phone for a full refund (sans shipping cost) if you're not happy with it. The risk is really small, that's why I decided to spend money on it. Moreover, I doubt any company will make such a nice piece of hardware, specs and materials, next year. For instance, the silicon anode Li-ion battery will not be widely available until 2015, but the Edge will have it in 2014.

      • http://papped.webatu.com papped

        I think people put a little too much faith in your recourse options for these kickstarters...

        • TY

          I don't know if you'll consider me naive or not, but here's my opinion: I believe them because they are Canonical, a big company. I also trust the law. If they eat their words, they will be in great trouble.

          • http://papped.webatu.com papped

            It's not a matter of breaking the law. You can easily lose out without them breaking any sort of laws....

          • TY

            True, true. :

      • ltredbeard

        I think the risk is very large that the whole program will get hit with delays. With this in mind I couldn't pop on it.

      • ginobili

        $650 is a lot for a single person, i don't think the risk is small.

  • simp1istic

    Man you guys have been hopelessly negative from the get go. Disappointing

    • z0phi3l

      Because from the get go it's been completely unrealistic. It's almost as if Canonical wanted the project to fail with such a ridiculous goal just to blame the "community", like many are saying, if the goal was even half of this ridiculous goal it might maybe have a chance

      • simp1istic

        The same articles saying how ridiculous the idea is seem to emphasize how much it costs to do this. So which is it? Did they aim too high? Did they price it just right?

        • Christopher Ching

          They aimed too high if they seriously thought they could crowd-fund it. There's a reason these are the sorts of things you normally approach deep-pocketed venture capitalists to get funding for. Crowd funding's great but it has introduced a whole new audience to something venture capitalists have accepted but new crowd funders have not: failure.

          For tech executives and venture capitalists alike, failure somewhere, some time is all but a given. Most projects go nowhere, or fail to meet expectations. But developers and investors keep playing in the hopes of hitting it big with a success that will wipe out the losses many times over, to become the next Google or Facebook. And they can do that because the developers aren't gambling with their own money and the investors have other sources of income to fund their next big bet.

          But crowd investors aren't accustomed to this. To them, it's not an investment, it's a purchase: they put down money and they expect a product delivered on time and as-advertised, like pre-ordering a video game or movie tickets. No thought or consideration is given to the potential for failure, which for a project like this is enormous.

          Canonical's a good company but TBQH, this project seems a bit out of their league. They've got no experience with building or supporting hardware; pretty much the only company to launch a combined software-hardware package together is Apple, but even they had plenty of mobile experience with the iPod. Google and Microsoft both chose to let others handle the hardware initially until they got a better feel for the market, which was probably the smarter bet for their position.

          So for now, if Canonical really wants to bring this to the market, IMO the best path is to release the software as they have with Ubuntu itself, let developers bake it into a custom ROM for a device like the Nexus, and let word-of-mouth spread its reputation in the same way that Ubuntu's reputation was built. Most of the specs weren't even Canonical's to claim credit for; the hardware was all existing technology from one manufacturer or another.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Realistic*.

      • simp1istic

        Maybe. Not over yet, still negative.

  • Dale Frewaldt

    Let's be honest: 34 million is an astounding goal. Absurd, to put it bluntly. It would have been better to aim lower, overshoot a smaller goal, and use that momentum to build enthusiasm. If the goal had been 10 million, I bet it would've been shattered by now.

    • Matt Alexander

      32 million

      • Dale Frewaldt

        Knocking off that extra 2 isn't going to do them any good, I'm afraid.

    • vitriolix

      They simply could not have done this for 10 mil. Or 20. They are going to lose money even at 32 mil

      • Dale Frewaldt

        I spend a lot of time analyzing crowd-funding campaigns. I've got some upcoming Video Game projects that will benefit from these revenue sources.

        The simple fact is, if you can reach 100% funded, you are nearly guaranteed to double your pledge goal. I've done the research.

        • Xpgamer7

          Maybe for big name projects with plausible goals. But that's a dangerous path that skirts fraud.

          • Dale Frewaldt

            Fraud? I don't think you quite understand how these crowd-funding campaigns work...

      • c

        yeah, right. Bentley for everyone included.

    • Frekko

      20 million could be good enough to start

    • ThEGr33k

      Seems to me that another major issue is that they ramped the minimum required pledge to get a phone up WAY too fast. £400 is was now its £508... If they just kept it at £400 they would likely be way further ahead!?

  • Luis Augusto Fretes Cuevas

    The price tag was too high for a device you can expect to get one year from now. At $725 it may have been able to achieve it. At prices below $700 it would've met its goal. At $830 demand is just too low.

  • TY

    Instead of being so negative, why not post an article explaining why the Edge is worth it, in order to help make it happen? :) There are a lot to write on the technology behind, be it the screen material, amorphous metal body, OS, convergence, battery technology...

    • Wayne Randall

      Anybody that cares already knows. Somebody that doesn't already know wouldn't care.

      • TY

        Don't know about the others, but a future phone that would have technology only widely available in an even further future somehow makes me extremely... well, excited.

    • TY

      Based on my little research:
      Pure sapphire crystal: With Mohr's hardness of 9, it is the second hardest natural material. Almost only scratch-able by diamonds, i.e. no screen protectors needed. Already being used in iPhone 5's camera lens, luxury watches and phones (e.g. Vertu).
      Amorphous metal: A type of alloy that is highly resistant to wear, with high strength and flexibility. Basically getting the goodies of metal and plastic, ending the metal vs plastic war altogether. Also known as a brand-name, liquidmetal. Will probably be used in future HTC and Apple phones.
      Silicon-anode Li-ion battery: New type of battery expected to commercialize in 2015. More energy density.

  • IndieNono

    Yeah, I was struck by the paralysis in fundraising as well today. Canonical really dropped the ball on the incentives. Other Kickstarters succeed because there is a variety of rewards available, whereas this project is selling the same incentive at progressively more expensive prices. It's rewarding those who jumped in the game at $600 a phone, and penalizing anyone who came to Indiegogo later when the prices jumped to $875 or higher. The rewards should be structured so that those who are capable of giving more will get more. Kickstarters should encourage generosity, not indulge the bargain-hunters, or leave people to think they got scalped.

  • Alexei Watson

    So let's say that they dont make it; what happens to all the money they raised?

    • TY

      Returned. Fully.

      • Alexei Watson

        I see thanks.. wasn't aware of that.

    • r4v5

      It's a "fixed funding" campaign on IGG, which means nothing gets collected. If it were "flexible funding" they'd be able to take that money and ...do something with it.

  • dhruva

    so if the goal isnt met..do people get their money back?

    • begadkepat

      Yes.

  • TSON1

    30 day notice is stupid to be trying to convince people to buy a device outright anyway.

  • Josh

    I REALLY like the idea.. but as someone who has played with multiple builds on both a "supported" device (N7) and unsupported over the last year and some change, they have not made much headway... For something that is suppose to be for a touch device, the simple functionality of touch does not even work right. It was about a month ago the last I loaded up the latest on my N7 (which ubuntu has builds for) and I STILL had to use OTG with a keyboard and mouse to even get past the installation. Once installed touch was still all but useless.. If you tried to do anything "too fast" (read: NORMAL) the touch would crash and the mouse cursor would get stuck in the corner.

    The reason I think this has failed is outlined above, they do not need to spend a bunch of money to design a special ubuntu phone.. any decent android device made in the last couple of years has the balls for it to run just fine, but they cannot even get that right. So what difference is the same hardware with a ubuntu stamp on it going to make?

    • wlmeng11

      The Edge isn't about running Ubuntu Touch on hardware that already exists; it's about building an extremely high end phone (ie sapphire crystal, silicon-anode battery, etc) that can eliminate the need for a traditional desktop computer by connecting to an HDMI display and a mouse/keyboard.

      If the Edge fails to reach it's funding goal, then they'll just work with manufacturers (Samsung, HTC, etc) to ship phones running Ubuntu Touch.

      If you don't like Ubuntu Touch, you still may get an Edge for the hardware and then use Android on it.

      • Josh

        I completely understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that if they build the edge it's very likely to have the same if not very similar hardware that is in high end phones now. Even if they did not and used some new hardware that is "much-mo-betta" than what we have now, simple functionality like touch controls still do not work. My N7's touchcreen works just fine.. but they cannot even get that right. Like I said above I REALLY like the idea.. but they have been though multiple ubuntu build cycles (ubuntu 12.** - 13.** etc) and STILL the very simple function of touch does not work on an OS called "Ubuntu TOUCH" on a supported device such as the N7. Armed with that knowledge after having tried it, I cannot in my right mind put forth my hard earned $$ "betting" they will deliver. It is just not a smart investment given what they have shown thus far. I'm not even an "investor" and I can see that!

        We are not talking about they put out a build... stuff was broken..people made bug reports, they fixed it and then put out a build that fixed a MAJOR broken feature.. No. touch has been broken pretty much since day one and they still have not fixed it after more than a year. period.

        As much as I want to believe.. they have not made it easy.

        • Josh

          I feel the need to specify.. I can load Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7 (again.. a supported device) and I CANNOT use my finger on my screen to complete the OS installation. I have to use an OTG cable and a mouse and keyboard in order to even complete the install.. and once installed it's NO better.

          • mgamerz

            Pretty sure its still alpha stage...

          • Wesley Modderkolk

            Alpha stage or not, you expect such basic functions to work. Even after half a year(or even longer?) since it's release. If with an alpha release the touch barely works on a supported device, then just dont release it and fix that.

            If it was an unsupported device, then okay, you could expect that. But if on a supported device they couldnt even get that right, what does that mean for the rest of the OS? Alpha or not, there is a certain limit of patience, and trust in the developer.

        • montahchos

          I guess what you want to say is ..

          "instead of making a new phone, how about finish the Ubuntu Touch OS? so people could understand how awesome it is rather than full of bug and broken things experience. And after that you can go with your own phone" (At least that what MIUI guys did)

          i thought the way like that

  • Ray

    No surprises here!

  • Matthew Skalecki

    I'm actually very impressed that the campaign made it as far as it did.

    If a well made device to these specs were sold today, I would likely be willing to pay $800. However, sponsors for this campaign are taking on several additional risks. The phone could have quality issues. It could take so long to produce that it's specs are no longer uniquely impressive. They could lose/break their current phone before this is ready...

    • Josh

      they could also put out good hardware with a sh*t OS on it... the same sh*t os they have been putting out builds for, for more than a year, that simple TOUCH functionality does not work on.

      • corey s

        it runs android as the main driver. do you have any idea what alpha means?

    • vitriolix

      "The phone could have quality issues. It could take so long to produce that it's specs are no longer uniquely impressive. "

      In those cases, you send the phone back. No loss.

  • steelew

    It looks great but $775 for a phone I cant go touch or that might not be supported by the ROMing community is a little too much to swallow. I know in other countries they pa full price for their devices but almost $800 is just too much for a phone in my pocket. I might feel different if I made more money. Oh well $400 to $600 S4 here I come...maybe.

    • enoch861

      Thats how much most phones cost anyway. Look at the iPhone for example.. The 32 and 64gb versions cost a good chunk.
      All that would need to happen is for a carrier to pick subsidize it and people will be paying 200 for it. So, in all honesty, 700 is pretty standard for a high-end smartphone.

    • vitriolix

      They have a full, no questions asked return policy. Take a risk, if you don't like it, send it back.

  • Avatar Ng

    Yeah too greedy, seriously $725 for that phone?
    Come on, this is not a platform for selling your products, it got to be lower!
    Let's say $200-$300 for a gadget project, I might still try it, $725?
    Go ahead, be my guest!

    • vitriolix

      Greed has nothing to do with it, they are going to lose money per handset sold even at those prices

  • Eric Jones

    I'd consider this phone if it actually existed, you know, in real life. Considering that they haven't made Ubuntu for Android work well, or Ubuntu mobile on Android hardware work well, why would I think they can make the OS work, as well as make hardware? Much less, high end hardware that's running two operating systems, when they don't have experience in either OS, or making hardware. I'm extremely skeptical, and there is no way I'm spending that kind of money to maybe, at some random point a year or more from now, get an expensive phone of unknown quality. No way in hell.

    • vitriolix

      100% no fault full return policy

      • Eric Jones

        Yes, a company that has no experience in sales, will refund your money, after your receive the device. If it's delayed 6 months, you can't get a refund for another 6 months. If they never deliver on the product, and they've already spent the money? What then? Not what I want to do with $800. Since most people I know only buy phones when they are eligible for an upgrade, and then buy the cheapest one they can get, I seriously doubt they'll get enough people to pay out of pocket now for a phone they can have a chance at returning a year from now.

        • vitriolix

          What are you talking about ? Canonical has been handles sales for a decade.

          • Eric Jones

            Sorry, I should have been more specific. Hardware sales. Yes, I guess you are right, they have been selling tshirts, stickers, cd's and thumb drives for years now. There is so much more involved in creating a hardware device for sale, than any of the products they sell could give them.

          • vitriolix

            Agreed, designing hardware is certainly new for them. But in terms of them being good to their word for returns and the like I trust them

          • Eric Jones

            Yes, if they get the hardware into your hand, and you don't like it, I'm sure they'll refund your money if you want to return it. I don't have any faith, even if they do get funded, that it will be as good as they are hoping, or that it will be available in a timely manner.

            That's why I would consider it if I could go to the store and pick one up. Then I could evaluate if they actually delivered on all of their promises, before having to part with my money. I hope they get it, but I doubt they will.

          • vitriolix

            That's the thing about these crowd funding site, it's more like being an investor than buying something. In investment you take on a degree of risk in order to see something that doesn't exist become real. If this gets funded it will make all kinds of interesting changes to the state of the art in mobile tech that I really want to see happen. Considering the only real risk is that they are delayed, I'm willing to take a chance

          • Eric Jones

            Hope it works out for you! If it does, then maybe I'll get the Ubuntu Edge 2, or maybe pick one up on Ebay.

  • skaterjosh98

    $32M was way too ambitious. To me it seemed like they wanted to make the phone but didnt want to take the risk and wanted to pass that risk to potential customers. It probably would have worked with half that amount. Make the phones and if its as great as they say people will buy it.

  • vitriolix

    Your facts are just wrong and it makes this entire article pointlessly pessimistic.

    Some Facts:

    http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/

    Fundraising can be reasonably expected to spike again near the end of the cycle as it did with the Ouya.

    Second, Ubuntu and Indieagogo aren't as clueless as you think, they are watching these numbers and adjusting the perks as needed. They will clearly do some creative price drops again to keep momentum going as they've already done several times.

    One thing is for sure, if blogs like this keep pissing on this even though it's barely a few days into its campaign and has already raise more than $7.5 million dollars, well... it surely won't help

    • Ror

      I wouldn't go using the Ouya as a high bar of success. Besides, the Ouya was a impulse-buy micro console while this is a $650+ phone using experimental manufacturing materials that doesn't even have a prototype. Very different projects.

  • http://royblumenthal.com/portfolio royblumenthal

    Mr Shuttleworth can tell me how scientifically designed the small screen is, and it STILL won't be a 5.3 inch screen. I'm surprised he's sold ANY phones at all with that sized screen. That's the weakness in the campaign.

    • Jadephyre

      Why does a phone need a 5.3 inch screen ?
      4.5 inch is big enough, it's supposed to be a phone, not a frickin' tablet.

  • corey

    what an overly pessimistic article. really disappointed with some of the attitudes people have taken. I'm definitely going to support this project at the very least ill be showing my support. at best ill have a phone 8 months ahead of everyone. really glade some of you weren't involved in getting to the moon. you probably would have got to the stratopause and stopped because any further would be too ambitious for your taste.

    • topgun966

      No its just being realistic and the numbers are the numbers. I love linux and Ubuntu is ok, but the market already has an open-source mod and now its just Ubuntu trying to be greedy. The market is already hammered with products. Now if they did a very low cost for 3rd world countries, that would be an idea.

      • corey

        i wasn't pointing at how realistic the numbers are i was pointing out that some people are going so far as to over emphasis a completely undesirable outcome therefore overly pessimistic. also no one needs another cheap 3rd world phone there are already heaps of knock off iphone's that run android and go for around 20 dollars or less.

        • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

          You lost me when you say "over emphasis a completely undesirable outcome therefore overly pessimistic" -- at which point does this article become "overly pessimistic". To be overly pessimistic, this project must have at least a slight chance to be funded before the deadline. As you can see from the explanation of this article, the numbers just aren't there. It's not going to happen. I agree with you that there are people out there being overly pessimistic about this project, but it's not the case here.

  • Huton Gergö

    Sad but i thym EDGE will fail

  • Joe D.

    Certainly a high-minded goal to reach for (and not exactly keeping in the spirit of croudsourcing for smaller start-up ventures), 32 Million dollars is a RIDICULOUS amount of money that Shuttleworth is asking people to contribute towards his mobile "F1" pet project. Can Ubuntu run well enough for people to use daily, on a currently available high end handset? Who knows! Lets build a pie-in-the-sky instead and get John Q. Public to pay for it. Brilliant!

    • Fellwalker

      I suppose if it does fail, you will be smug and say "I told you so". if everyone had your attitude we'd never move forwards. You say a currently available high end handset. Max 2GB RAM, max 64 GB on board memory. Only half that of the Edge.
      The whole point of this campaign is to push the boundaries. Why should he rush to run it on less than it deserves? it then becomes another "me - too" , and part of the impetus for the Edge goes.
      I've bought mine and hope it succeeds. I can do without naysayers.
      Instead, i suppose you'd buy an iphone or Samsung and line the pockets of corporations for whom a project like this would be small change, but who only issue improvements parsimoniously.

  • Jonathan

    The only thing this phone offers is that it can be a full on computer. This isn't worth $800 to me. I have a laptop and everywhere there is a screen keyboard an mouse there is also a computer which is almost always connected to the Internet. I can access all my important stuff on the Internet, I don't need to cart it round in my pocket.
    If this phone was more adventurous on the hardware, biometrics, wireless charging, WiHD (which is more preferable to a wired HD connection so I was extremely surprised it didn't have this, given that the only distinguishing feature is it can be a PC), and something else on people in 2020 have heard of.

  • Dan

    So tired of douchebag articles that talk about nothing but how this campaign has always been doomed to failure. It's like you're celebrating the fact that nobody is going to get to have this amazing phone.

  • Joe

    David, I can only say that you are a very negative guy.

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      More like a very realistic guy.

  • Nomaan

    They should add a projector like most chinese phones for desktop mode.

    • Ror

      Seems like a terrible waste of power and space. Most micro projectors are still pretty terrible.

    • Fellwalker

      that would be a accessory for the add on marketplace. Please, not in the phone!

  • Dan

    "Crowdfunding campaigns with high initial public visibility - and I doubt
    you'll find one that got a lot more than Edge did - always start hot,
    with per day funding decreasing thereafter"

    Where's your data to support this? Browsing through Kicktraq.com seems to indicate that you're full of crap.

  • Robert Goddard

    They should just release the source code for Ubuntu on Android so ROM devs can incorporate. I would definitely want something like that.

  • jake connolly

    Imagine if Google took an interest in them, always updated software from both sides as well as looking stunning compared to the nexus 4. I think many people want this but cant afford to donate the money :/

    • topgun966

      Why would they??? They have dumped billions into Android development. Why would they be interested in developing something that's a potential competitor.

  • Elliot Kotis

    30 Million? No wonder! A bit greedy. It isn't a Triple A phone! Why not kickstarter, used more widely.

    • Fellwalker

      how so, greedy? the funds are going to pay for the phones.

      • Elliot Kotis

        Really? How so? Really? The OUYA, it is ONLY the biggest thing on any indie kickstarting thing was 8 Million. Followed by the OR VHS (oculus rift), at 2 million, I MEAN THE OCULUS RIFT, GET IT??? And this phone that wont sell nearly as well is asking for 32 MILLION, it already surpassed the OC! They are lucky they could raise even half what they have now.

        • Fellwalker

          "greed·y
          /ˈgrēdē/
          Adjective
          Having or showing an intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth or power."

          it's neither of those.

  • Fellwalker

    How balanced of android police that this is the ONLY article tagged "Ubuntu edge"

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