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Wall Street Journal reporter Amir Efrati has let it slip that none other than Chrome/Android head Sundar Pichai has divulged the existence of a next-generation Samsung-made Nexus 10 tablet. If Pichai related more details to Efrati, he's keeping them under his hat. Still, Samsung is more or less confirmed as the OEM for Google's next 10-inch slate.

The Nexus 10 was announced along side the Nexus 4 late last year. It came with an unprecedented 2560x1600 LCD panel, which has since spurred other OEMs to step it up in the display department. Makes you wonder what the next one is going to improve on.

With the non-stop torrent of leaks surrounding the Nexus 7, it's not too surprising that Google isn't worried about keeping this one a secret. We can probably expect more details to emerge long before the device is officially announced.

[Amir Efrati Twitter]

Ryan Whitwam
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  • Kcls

    That's odd. I would have figured it would be released with the next Nexus phone again.

    • http://awseibert.net/ Aaron

      Maybe it will..

    • Tony Sarju

      That's more than likely when it will debut, in the fall event alongside the next Nexus handset and the next version of Android.

    • PhoenixPath

      It probably will. Both devices will likely be released in Nov. with KLP.

  • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

    I hope it releases with a new version on Android. I know 4.3 just came out but we haven't seen big changes in a while just a bunch of incremental stuff.

    • Sarath Chandra Gullapalli

      Unless it's gonna come in early 2014, don't expect a new software update. Looks like Google has decided to slow down the rate of updates.

    • Fawoo

      It'll probably come with KLP. If not it will come shortly after KLP is released.

      I can kind of see a N5 + N10 simultaneous release with KLP.

    • bcole

      I suggest don't fix what's not broke. I don't know what big changes are really needed. Each of the features that were added in 4.3 were changes I was looking forward to. Bluetooth LE, AVRCP 1.3 for all of Android. Chromecast was another feature I was looking forward to.
      The only thing to look forward to now is a new interface, but users can change that themselves.

      • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

        well we still have some things that are b0ke. Android has a major "XP effect" going on. Older phones don't see new updates not just because of manufactures anymore but because they just can't take the new software. If you remember Vista has a hug min requirement bump from XP and Windows 7 scaled it back down to nearly the same requirements as XP. This in part allowed greater adoption. I think Android is in the same boat, while we see more and more JB devices all the time the amount of GB devices is still staggering. If there could be an update on lower powered devices that would make things better especially if it took even fewer system resources.

        Oh and don't get me started on multitasking. There is no good native way to do multi-tasking, this is in part the devices fault but even if you had massive RAM multi-tasking on android is annoying at best This would be another area ripe for improvement. Did I also mention that we still haven't see the synchronized notifications that were announced at IO? Right now Android does not allow any program to modify notifications so an update would have to be released to address this in order for Google play services to sync them.

        I know Android is mature but by no means perfect there are other things that could be done to help but this is just a peek at "what's br0ke"

        • didibus

          I agree, there is a lot of improvements to be had. But when it comes to the UI, I don't think a complete redesign is needed, the UI works pretty well, maybe it needs a bit more tweaking still, but things are looking pretty good.

          I personally, would rather see underlying changes. Improve the Dalvik VM performance, and lower it's RAM requirements. Like you're saying, it would be awesome if Android could run on underpowered device and still be snappy. Could add better audio latency, better support for mouse, keyboard, joypads and external storage. The App Ops thing is awesome, bring multi-user to phones.

          Also, I really wish they made Android in PC mode better. That is, Android when plugged into a monitor, with a mouse and keyboard. This mode of operation should be greatly improved. It's getting to the point I would use Android as a PC. Heck, you can even code android on android, so why not.

          They also need to work on bringing features to greater market, music, movies, books, song search, all that stuff should be worldwide.

          Once all that is worked on, I can see some UI tweaks being done. They have to make better use of the onscreen buttons, that's a must. At a minimum, put in the AOKP features for on screen buttons. They should have a tab in the notification drawer for long running apps, it's annoying to have the notifications also work as the traybar. The quick setting drawer must be greatly enhanced. It looks like it was designed in a day. The camera app still sucks, at least make the control a half moon, but more features for it are required.

          So ya, I can go on and on, we're still far off from a perfect OS, impatiently awaiting the next version!

          • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

            I agree with you 100% I wasn't trying to suggest Android needs a UI overhaul what you mentioned would be great to see plus some more multi-tasking abilities.

    • Sarath Chandra Gullapalli

      It's believed that Google is working on a new Linux kernel which reduces the RAM requirements. This also adds up to the rumored news that the K release version will run on more low-end handsets. It's also said that this is going to take a lot of time. So, I don't think it's ideal to expect it before Google I/O 2014 and not for a release around the fall, along with the Nexus 4 & 10 refreshes.

      • Matt

        The last major overhaul in terms of UI for Android was 4.0 in November 2011 and everything since then has been (by and large) incremental, including Project Butter, the Bluetooth stuff, the notification drawer, etc. If a layman were to pick up a phone running 4.0 ICS and the same phone running 4.3 JB, it might take a while to figure out which is newer. Don't get me wrong, 4.3's obviously smoother, less buggy, apps can do more stuff, etc. than ICS, but it's been a long wait and I think KLP will come out in the fall. It may take a long time to do all those improvements, but it's evident that Google's also had a long time.

        • Sarath Chandra Gullapalli

          Well, if you turn out to be right and Google does release the K lettered dessert OS in the fall, I'm sure there'll be a lot of Happy Users in the Android and Nexus worlds.

    • PhoenixPath

      If it releases in Nov like the last one did (IIRC), it'll likely come with KLP/5.0.

    • qwf

      If you make "big changes" when they are unnecessary, you end up with Windows 8.

      • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

        "unnecessary" is subjective. I for example believe the windows 8 UI is necessary, even if it's not well received. This is the issue, who is to say what should and should not be? The developers! I only want a new version of Android simply because there are things in the works that we haven't seen yet, even stuff mentioned in IO

  • Defenestratus

    Hurry up already!

    Was hoping that it would be released before September but I'm not holding out hope.

  • Sarath Chandra Gullapalli

    As a matter of fact, I remember reading a rumour that a refresh for the Nexus 10 with a quad core processor is on the cards. So, looks like that is coming to be true. I expect it to launch alongside the next Nexus phone right before the fall shopping season.

    • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

      I hope it has 4GB of RAM. Please give us 4GB of RAM!!

      • firesoul453

        Why would you need 4gb of ram? I bet if you didn;'t know how much ram you had you would never notice a difference

        • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

          rly? do you say that to people on a netbook? "meh if you had a more RAM you wouldn't know what to do with it"

          I assure you I would notice. more RAM brings two things to the table 1) more services that can be running in the background and 2) more active programs you can be running at the same time. Especially with Halo in Paranoid android multitasking isn't just a dream anymore with android. I could be watching a movie and then comment on a G+ page for example. Also with more RAM you'll be able to flip through more web tabs at a time. I could go on but at this point most of you probably are like "TLDR"

          • firesoul453

            If nexus devices ran windows like netbooks than you'll be wanting 4gbs of ram. But luckaly this isn't windows

            But right now on nexus 10, too many services run in the background as it stands. Why would I need more than 10 active apps open too?

            Ram isn't the bottleneck here.

          • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

            Clearly my comparison to windows diludes my point with you. So I'll take another stance. First off if you don't need it OK that's fine. My point is that I need 4GB of RAM I'm already feeling the strain of 2GB it's totally Ok that you don't. I gave the example of multitasking but if you don't do a lot of it or if you don't play games that need more ram then good on you. however we're already on the edge of what 2GB can bring us and that's just how tech is. 4GB in devices will probably become the norm in a year or so. With that said I ask you "why not 4GB of RAM?"

          • firesoul453

            What the heck are you doing where you're feeling the limits of 2gbs of ram? I never close my apps and have tons of stuff running in the background and its never been a problem. The reason the ram is always pretty much full is because thats how android works.

            No one would complain about having 4gbs of ram but if the device never uses it whats the point?

            Like I said the ram isn't the bottleneck, if you want better multitasking then they need better processing power first. I doubt the new nexus 10 would have enough power to justify 4gbs of ram.

          • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

            I guarantee you that people would use 4GB of RAM. you sound like people just a year ago who were like "OMG who would ever use 2GB of RAM" heck remember when bill gates said that nobody would need more than 640KB of ram? clearly that's not true. My point is hardware sets the pace and users follow. People have these devices for a couple years and that gives sofware more than enough time to utilize the hardware to it's fullest.

          • firesoul453

            Like I said no one would complain about having 4gbs of ram. but there really isn't much of a need, 2gb will do everything fine.

            Your acting like the tablet will be useless unless it gets 4gbs of ram.

          • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

            If that's what you feel you're greatly mis-interpreting what I'm saying. I would simply like 4GB of ram simply because a nexus device is supposed to be THE hardware spec for android. I'm not saying 2GB would be bad, however I'd expect a bump since that's typically how things go.

            Also I maintain my stance that you're talking about things as they are now and not thinking at all about the future.

          • firesoul453

            Like I said before, the ram isn't the bottleneck.
            I'd welcome some futuristic nexus tablet than has 8+gbs or ram and dominates an i7 processor, but from the rumored specs I've seen, 4gbs or ram won't really help anyone very much. Google likes to keep costs down so they can sell this to the masses.

            Having a feature just to have it is dumb.

          • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

            I'm done with this argument. you're not seeing my point of view at all. I'm not saying RAM is a bottleneck I'm saying speck wise we are not that far off from seeing 4GB of RAM, even if you don't think so I'm saying it's inevitable even if the nexus isn't going to be the first one to bring it to us. I also agree having a feature just to have it is dumb, however having an upgraded spec is hardly "dumb"

          • firesoul453

            Ofcourse we'll be seeing 4gb soon enough but those will come with even better processors. What would be the point of having a feature you can't really take advantage of? It would bascially be a feature just to have it.

            What am I not seeing here?

  • Sarath Chandra Gullapalli

    I've been thinking that why Google is leaky as hell when it comes to their Nexus devices. I think Google thinks that this is help in instigating the OEM partners about their respective devices when this kind of leaks happen, which is what the Nexus devices are expected to do - Inspire the next generation and drive the industry forward.

    • Toblerone

      ... or Google just don't really care? I mean, the other manufactures the have to live on their devices. They need the hype and all the marketing to go perfectly, but Google on the other hand... they don't care in the same way - they make their money from ads and are happy as long as you buy an Android-device.

  • Sarath Chandra Gullapalli

    OMG...It all adds up now. Samsung has just revealed a new in-house Exynos 5420, which is said to have significantly improved graphical prowess. So, I guess an Octo-core procesor is coming to the next Nexus 10. Even Samsung's leaked documents point to a new line up of High resolution tablets, with Exynos chips. Woohoo...!!!

    • Frekko

      exynos sucks

      • Sarath Chandra Gullapalli

        Well.. If the Nexus 10 is indeed made by Samsung, I think we wouldn't have an option in that matter, unfortunately.

  • rnelson

    I just hope it doesn't reboot for 8 months without a fix like the last one.

    http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/VFYnt7uN9d0%5B551-575-false%5D

    • jamaall

      I know, i hated that, still does it so i sold it for n7

  • Naga Sridhar

    I think they should keep the product cycles to 1 year. In that way, people with the nexuses can be relieved that they wont be seeing their device as a old one!

    • firesoul453

      If it comes out in november like a lot of people are guessing, then it will be a year, the new nexus 7 will be over a year

      • Naga Sridhar

        Definitely agree!! just sometimes don't understand people wanting a new device as early as 5 - 6 months from the previous nexus!! There are so many ppl wanting a new nexus phone already when the nexus 4 is still an awesome device

        • firesoul453

          People are crazy lol. Everyone just wants a new device to come out as soon as they plan on getting one, but when they get one they get mad when a new device comes out lol.

          I however got my nexus 10 less than 2 months ago, no regrets.

  • VoiceofSky

    Nooooooooo,i mean yeesssssss haha .. BRING IT! :)

  • Philip Kahn

    Come on, keyboard dock!

    That'd make it the right upgrade to my TF201 -- I love it, but it's getting a bit long in the tooth.

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