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Last Updated: July 23rd, 2013

With Google's chitchat breakfast event with Sundar Pichai coming up next week, speculation has been rampant that a new Nexus 7 could be imminent. Just like clockwork, the leaks are beginning to flow. A new video purports to show the second edition of Google's 7-inch slate, and it's accompanied by some snapshots.

The device certainly looks legit with the sideways Nexus branding on the back, matching a previous leak. An Asus logo is also clearly visible at the bottom. The device again has a 7-inch LCD, but the resolution isn't apparent in any of the pictures. There will be two cameras this time – a 1.2MP front cam, and a 5MP rear sensor. The limited specs indicate a Qualcomm APQ8064, which is Snapdragon S4. That was one of the two options presented by one of those previous leaks.

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The overall design looks almost identical to the first N7, but there are two speakers on the back instead of one. We're expecting 2GB of RAM, and 16/32GB storage options. The rest of the specs are unknown. Start saving your pennies, everyone. Google will be asking for your money very soon.

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[via Android Central]

Ryan Whitwam
Ryan is a tech/science writer, skeptic, lover of all things electronic, and Android fan. In his spare time he reads golden-age sci-fi and sleeps, but rarely at the same time. His wife tolerates him as few would.

  • nebula

    This looks really nice and a system dump would be awesome

  • Cory_S

    Anyone notice how the comments sometimes populates comments from a previous article? When I first loaded the page it was the comments from the bluetooth certification nexus 7 leak.

    • Tony Nedumgo

      I got comments from the samsung tablet

    • Justin W

      I thought I was going crazy when I saw this last time - people were commenting on an app about how they wanted that phone (there wasn't a phone even mentioned in the article). At least someone else notices it!

    • Merri Mogridge

      I experienced this for the first time about half an hour ago on he red Moto Droid Ultra and the Red HTC One articles. I didn't know what was going on!

    • Matthew Fry

      Several times. It seems to happen when I load multiple articles at once. Started happening maybe a week or 2 ago?

    • ssj4Gogeta

      This article is about How Monkeys Find Bananas in Midsummer Mornings. Please stay on topic.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I blame Disqus for this. It's their widget, and they've broken it multiple times in the past. Our site hasn't changed, and it's up to them to fix it. I believe they're aware of it too. I can't reliably reproduce this though.

      • Robert Blenkinsopp

        It reliably happens for me if you hover your mouse over one the picture for one of your "Your might also like" articles just above the comment . Leave your mouse on one for a second or two and this comments will reload with the one from that article. It's really quite irritating as I always have to be mindful where I leave my mouse cursor :D

        • Cory_S

          Oh wow, yeah that does it.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Ah, the leave your mouse there for a few seconds was key. I've finally reproduced it reliably. Thank you!

          So looks like the Disqus widget for some reason reacts to the JS popup (using the cluetip library) that shows the QR code after hovering on a link. It's a nice little feature of AP, and Disqus should definitely not reload because of it.

          I'll file a bug and try to investigate with them.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Submitted a ticket to Disqus.

          Filed this with Cluetip just in case too: https://github.com/kswedberg/jquery-cluetip/issues/132

          • Robert Blenkinsopp

            Thanks for that, took me a while to work out how to reproduce it as well, sometimes I wouldn't notice that it had changed until I was several comments in and was starting to think they didn't seem relevant to the article...

      • Cory_S

        While I'm sure that's true, I've never seen it happen on any other site using Disqus, so I just thought I'd point it out if you hadn't noticed.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Good news, everyone! The issue has been tracked down (thanks to Robert Blenkinsopp and Cory_S) and fixed. It also helped fix a bug in a library we're using.

      For more details, if you're interested, see https://github.com/kswedberg/jquery-cluetip/issues/132 and https://github.com/kswedberg/jquery-cluetip/commit/875c312496eefe1531899687fe663f9dc89b5f9e.

      Thanks, folks.

      • Cory_S

        Thanks Artem!

  • Mr. Mark

    im stuffing my money into my floppy drive but nothing is happening.

    • Eric Lega-c Smith

      I think the problem is that you have a floppy drive

    • dogulas

      If only I had known I could pay for things that way back in the 90's.

    • BBXiong

      I think floppy drive only accepts credit cards, not card, try again

  • Tony Nedumgo

    I'm really going to miss the rubberized back

    • Sean Lumly

      It could be like the Nexus 10, which is certainly very rubberised, though not textured.

      • redthunda69

        It definitely looks like a similar material.

    • Dexi

      Why don't you have a cover on your baby?

      • Ian Santopietro

        Because with the rubberized back, you can grip it well enough not to need a cover.

    • dogulas

      Any ideas as to why they are ditching it? Did the original Nexus 7 get dirt and grime in the dimples on the back?

      • Gandalf_Teh_Gray

        I've had a case on a while and Now it has a few pieces of dirt and stuff stuck in there, didn't have that problem when I went caseless.

  • Jason Casas

    not trying ti hijack...but.....whats the wallpaper?

    • Gandalf_Teh_Gray

      :P I don't think the leaker would come on and tell us. But let us hope.

  • Colin Kealty

    looks thick, in a good way!

  • NathanDrago

    I'm still waiting for the new Nexus 10.
    Having a 5" phone, I can't see myself buying a tablet which is just 2" wider.

    • HellG

      Same here, I have the note 2 syndrome :'(

      • Kaero

        As a hopeful future owner of the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, I fear my current Nexus 7 will become obsolete as I can't see a use for a tablet that's 0.5" wider than my phone.

        • Jason Bailey

          True... I'm picking up that device as well.... better flip you nexus on ebay now. :-)

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      This point of view makes no sense to me. People don't seem to realize how much larger 2" is in terms of real screen area. A 5" phone has much, much less display surface area than a 7" tablet. That's why we don't have 7" phones, aside from the Fonepad, which looks ridiculous. Because it's gigantic for a phone.

      I'd like the N7 to be a bit bigger, but it's certainly large enough as is to make for a real tablet experience - a Note II is not a "tablet experience."

      • Josh Rice

        I have a Nexus 7, a Note 2 and a 10.1 Galaxy Tab. Galaxy Tab never gets used any more. It's too big and awkward to use. The Note 2 is /almost/ big enough for regular reading, but can be a bit annoying. The N7 gets the most use for gaming and heavy reading by far. It's big enough, but not too big.

      • Haunter

        I'm inclined to agree with @NathanDrago:disqus. I'm still rocking a GNex (waiting on N5) and the my N10 is a great size for portable computing as well as media consumption when I desire something larger... the N7 just feels too small. But, I'm a fairly big dude with large hands and everyone certainly has their own comfort zones... though I will agree that holding it for hours can get taxing on the palms.

        • http://www.nerdshowandtell.com nerdshowandtell.com

          I found speed is everything.. I used to use my N7 all the time & swear it was the screen size that made me reach for it... until I got the N4.. now I find myself reaching for the N4 just simply because it loads everything faster.

      • Matthew Fry

        I have used (for a few minutes) a 7" tablet and I've used my wife's iPad Mini (which her school gave her for some unknown reason). I know the size and heft of a 7" tablet and I can't see myself using it over the Nexus 10. It appears to be the consensus that 7" is the tablet of choice and I guess that's ok. Just not my cup of tea. It fills a niche I don't have. If I'm on the go, the phone is fine. If I'm not, the 10 is fine.

        Put another way, I don't find myself saying, "This Nexus 10 is too big, I want something a little smaller." Similarly, I don't hold my phone and say, "I wish this were bigger."

      • Cas

        Agree.. for me personal.. my 10" android tablet is often just a little bit too big and heavy. i tried the nexus 7 for two weeks but somehow always felt like the screen could be a little bit bigger. I think for me 8" would be the perfect choice ^^
        Reading an DIN A4 pdf magazine on a 7" device is a little bit uncomfortable :/

        • didibus

          They should definitly try to do an 8inch or 8.2inch tablet. I'm pretty sure they could fit an 8inch screen without making the tablet any bigger too

    • Cory Wilson

      I actually find the nexus 7s size to be perfect for my needs, I love the ease of portability but still has a large enough display for movie watching , game playing, and Internet browsing on the go. But to each his own.

      • marcusmaximus04

        Ditto. I also use my N7 for coding(thanks to AIDE and a ZAGG keyboard)

    • Ryan Stewart

      I'm with you. For portability my Nexus 4 does just fine and the Nexus 10 is so big the multimedia and reading experience makes me not miss my laptop. The 7, while great for the prices, just want enough to justify owning it.

      The N10 though is a massive HD screen and a nearly ultra book sized keyboard when in typing stance.

      • dogulas

        Smartphone and laptop. That's as much as anyone really needs. Although no one actually needs a smartphone either. Its all about convenience and spare cash.

    • MindFever

      Yeah,i said the same thing...when i saw it in real life there was a huge difference. I bought the N7 in like a couple of minutes

    • htowngtr

      Having owned both I definitely get more use out of my N7 which is why I sold the N10 long ago.

  • jimsis

    Would be really nice if it fit the same docking station, or is that too obvious?

  • jimsis

    Would be really nice if it had the active screen like the Note 8, which I've resisting upgrading to from my current Nexus 7.

  • jimsis

    Is IR remote support too much of a stretch?

  • peter

    would be Really nice if they could release it in a 64 / 128gb versions
    as i guess they wont add a micro sd slot for a while.....

    • Fellwalker

      agreed. Google don't like SD cards s they don't fit smoothly into the system, hence all the complaints from Sammy users about needing to move apps to SD because they've run out of space in their RAM.

      • Matt McKee

        "they've run out of space in their RAM."

        You quite clearly don't understand storage media.

        • Christopher Lee

          At least the sentiment was right. But Samsung certainly does offer well-proportioned devices as far as internal storage goes-- it's just that many carriers don't sell them.

        • Fellwalker

          How polite! I was rushing to send that before going out and I meant to say "on board RAM", as opposed to expandable memory. Perhaps it would have been more helpful of you to expand on your comment rather than just cast aspersions on my understanding? Android handles its inbuilt memory as a whole but cannot handle external memory the same way. Thus apps will only install to the inbuilt memory unless you have a third party add on. I do not know, but I understand there is a method of "moving an app to SD card" on non nexus machines.
          This memory handling is part of the design, and from what I have read in learned articles, they have no intention of changing it.

          • http://the-jade-domain.com Jaime J. Denizard

            You don't mean RAM, you mean internal storage. RAM is non-permanent memory, it can't be used for storage or installing apps.

          • Fellwalker

            Damn me, you are absolutely right. My bad. Should engage brain before typing! Thank you.

  • Guest

    Since no one else mentioned, it has Rear and FFC this time around.

  • Dexi

    Doesn't it say 4GB Ram on the spec sheet?

  • JAD88

    Does anyone else dislike that the power button and the volume buttons are right next to each other? At least they dont look as close as they do on the current N7

    • Sean Lumly

      Me.. I would rather the buttons be in a location as least likely to be accidentally pressed. The LG Optimus G2 seems to have them on the back, and I'm seriously wondering if this would be a superior placement.

      • andy_o

        Buttons on the back are horrible for car docks.

  • Justin W

    This looks like a Sony device based on the front. In my opinion, the front reminds me of the Z Ultra.

    • MindFever

      ...wat :|

      • Justin W

        Just how the back comes around and doesn't actually meld with the front like the current Nexus 7 does reminds me of how the Ultra looks.

  • Matthew Wu

    wonder if there's POGO pin like the original Nexus 7...
    The "NEXUS" was put horizontally, then there's must be a dock for it, right?

    • TylerChappell

      The video shoes both sides, and there are no pogo pins.

    • redthunda69

      Rumor has it the new Nexus 7 is qi compatible.

      • Matthew Wu

        It makes sense, hope this one won't slice off the dock/adapter since Qi has been disappointing.

        • redthunda69

          I never really had a problem with my Nexus orb, either with my Nexus 4 or SGS4.

      • Kenton Douglas

        If so, it might be able to use the same wireless charger as the N4 in landscape?

    • MindFever

      No...it suggests it can be used in landscape :)

  • Sean Lumly

    Where in heavens are the speakers?

    • http://www.facebook.com/lucyparanormal Daniel Tiberius

      "but there are two speakers on the back instead of one."

      • Timothy Choi

        Finally they made an improvement on this one. Bravo!

        • PhoenixPath

          Sucks that they are not on the front...use some of that bezel for some front-facing speakers.

      • Sean Lumly

        Yes, thank you, I read that.. But my question is where on the back? The video doesn't seem to show them but are they under the sticker at the top? Since the logo is horizontal, what is the shape and arrangement of the speaker grilles?

  • redthunda69

    Notification LED @ 0:35.

    • MindFever

      That is awesome...but if you ask me,they should make something like the Moto X has for notifications,at least for the old N7

  • fonix232

    Seems a bit weird, especially coming from Asus. Just a few notes:

    - Camera placement is weird for a 5" tablet. Corner camera is okay, and is usually in the top right corner, and it is good so far. My next point explains it all.

    - Button placement is unnatural. Most of the people use their tablets in their left hands, and their right hand as input. Now, if the hardware buttons are on the right side, you can't simply use them without reaching around the device again and again.

    - Way too thick borders. One would think Google and Asus will try to make a better device, with thinner edges, but no, it has space for a frakking keyboard on the bottom!

    - Notification LED is again on the bottom. For the Nexus 4, it was okay. I mean, it's a relatively small device, what you can see fully even if it is only a few centimeters from your eyes. But with such a monstrosity of a tablet, how the hell will you notice the LED first? I mean, it's on the bottom of the screen! Humans read from top to bottom, that's the way our brain works. If they put the LED on the bottom, every time you'll have to scan the whole front of the device to spot it.

    - CPU. I don't think Google would put a previous generation SoC in their new flagship/example device. The Nexus devices should always be sporting the latest stable market technologies, not something that's soon out of the manufacturer's grace.

    But, nevertheless, nice. All the points, those are just my design.

    • Timothy Choi

      Point to point:
      1. It's a 7 inch tablet. iPad minis have similar placings for cameras, which does not surprise me.

      2. It's copied over from the first generation, although I'm not sure how you got that information, because from my knowledge a vast majority of mainstream devices have hardware buttons on the right side, including Galaxy Tab 3, iPads, Galaxy series, Fonepads/Padfones, etc.

      3. I also think it's weird, but then notification LED blinking into your eye while you are Skyping can be uncomfortable.

      4. Nexus 7 is designed to be cheap, not powerful. It has always been like that. Unfortunately for power players like me, my first gen Nexus 7 is quite slow, but I lived with it. It's no longer my main device, but I still like it very much.

    • marcusmaximus04

      Strange, I actually naturally hold the device with my right hand and use my left for input. For reference, I'm right handed.

      For the borders, they're pretty typical of tablets. You need to have extra space to hold the device, since most people's hands can't comfortably hold one entirely around the back.

      For the LED, any placement at all is going to catch your attention. It's a (relatively) bright light on an otherwise entirely black slate. It's meant to be something active that catches your attention, not something you have to actively look for.

      The CPU is somewhat odd, but keep in mind that the Nexus 7 competes primarily on price. With the current gen, it's using a hugely downgraded version of the Tegra 3 to reduce costs. The same probably goes for the (presumed) S4 Pro used here. It's almost the same chip as the S4 600, but likely costs a bit less.

      • fonix232

        Yes, but my main point with the button and camera placement was that they might overlap each other, making it harder to use the volume buttons while using the camera (by default they act like zoom in/out buttons, plus there are tons of people who prefer a hardware shutter button, e.g. volume down). Plus touching the buttons will definitely end up smudging the camera lens.

        The borders would be okay, BUT. It is the bottom and top borders that are thick, yet you hold this very device by the left and right sides, basically making the thickness on the top/bottom unnecessary.

        The LED: I always preferred topmost positioning. Why? Because if you concentrate on the screen, you can easily ignore it, while if you look at the device, you will look on the top first. It might be active, but you still have to slide your eyes down (as most people do, they first see the LED from the "corner" of their eyes (slightly out of the focus as they are not looking directly at it), then look at it directly to confirm). That is wasted time.

        I really hope though that the CPU is just a typo. An S600 should be relatively affordable today, especially with their current suggested pricing (250$ for the 32GB one).

        • marcusmaximus04

          Only remaining comment is that it's possible, especially given the landscape-orientation of the "NEXUS" branding, that they're trying to give a stronger focus on using this in landscape.

          • fonix232

            Then the top-left corner placement of the camera is completely stupid, especially with the buttons like that... Oh well, we will see sooner or later.

    • miri

      2. It's the same as the current Nexus 7. I've no complaints about it except that they're a tad too close, which seems to be amended in this one.

      3. The vertical bezels aren't all that thick, it's just that the horizontal bezels are much thinner.

      4. All Nexus Devices with LEDs are like this (One, Galaxy, 4, 10). I like it.

      5. I dunno about that. The Nexus 7 is supposed to be affordable with good performance and you don't need top of the line specs for that.

      • fonix232

        2. My point was with this 1 and 2 together - the camera is way too close to the buttons.

        3. Exactly. If you hold the device, as suggested, in portrait, you have to grab the sides. Meaning, the vertical bezels should be thicker, not the horizontal ones!

        4. Yes, and it made perfect sense with them. If you check those, the LED was in a position so that it was always in your field of view. But here, the screen is bigger, thus it pushes the notification LED down, possibly to an area not so obvious to look at. Nexus One, Galaxy, 4 - makes sense, different design than regular, but still in front of you. Here, not that much.

        5. Hopefully just a typo, nothing more.

    • MindFever

      LED doesnt light up when the screen is on so your argument is moot

  • Cherokee4Life

    honestly i don't like the 7" form factor. I have a 10" tablet Asus Infinity and my EVO LTE. Everything i need in 2 devices. I get why people like the 7" its just not for me. Shoot I bought my kid a 7" Nabi and its amazing.

    • Gandalf_Teh_Gray

      It fits in my pocket, a 10" does not.

      • PhoenixPath

        Bought some shorts at Costco the other day and was amazed that I could actually fit the n10 in the utility pocket...

        Not that I'd really do that. It's a 10" device, ffs. Anyone who wants to carry that in their pocket isn't living in the same reality as the rest of us. This requirement never really made sense to me anyway; Thank goodness we never applied it to laptops.

      • htowngtr

        That's what she said.

  • Nexus 7user

    I need small bezel :-(

    • Jason Bailey

      The size bezels look smaller to be, but it might just be my imagination.

  • Steve Freeman

    They'll ask for my money, and I'll give it.

    • MindFever

      Shutup and take my money meme would be more appropriate :) Futurama never gets old

      • Steve Freeman

        Maybe...but the article actually said "Google will be asking for your money very soon." So really, what I said was more appropriate.

  • portalpirate

    What's this? Is it just a mic or a SIM card hole?

    • MindFever

      SIM slot probably...Nexus 4 has a similar hole on the left side just under the volume rocker

      • JIM

        Yes it does, but that's for getting the SIM card out :O

    • JonJJon

      Its just the reset button like on the current nexus 7 which just doesn't have the hole. Probably means the back on this new model will be harder to remove.

  • Liam

    Looks like Google finally addressed the issue of having only 1 clock displayed on the lockscreen instead of two. In the video at @0:43 mark, you can see the status bar clock disappear as he is going on the second page of the lockscreen.

    • nebula

      my 4.2.2 nexus 4 does it as well.
      edit: cm 10.1.2

      • marcusmaximus04

        That's weird... mine doesn't.

        • nebula

          Could be a cm feature. I never noticed that, until i read it here

      • MindFever

        On stock the clock stays all the time,clock widget or no clock widget ...i checked again just to be sure (Nexus 4&7)

    • Gandalf_Teh_Gray

      Nova launcher has a setting for that I believe.

  • Derek B

    Am I the only one bothered by the amount of crap that is in the gap along the edge of the glass on the left?

    • Ray

      That is bothering me too. Nothing much worse then this. :(

      • MindFever

        It is worse having your N7 performance crippled by 4.2.2 ...so it has a gap? Well fuck it,im getting it. Reason? RAM

  • MindFever

    Buying this...i already have the N7 32gb WiFi version,but it really is useful to have a camera for scanning docs and the very needed RAM. Android 4.2.2 crippled mu N7 sadly :(
    Also it looks much more like my Nexus 4 so im totally getting it...i wont sell my old Nexus 7 though :D sentimental value (mu first tablet...i use it all the freakin time)

  • nuke3ae

    I really hope the n7 dock works with the new one. I'd hate to have to wait for another accessory.

  • http://www.bordersweather.co.uk/ Andy J

    Notification LED!!!!!!

  • Mystery Man

    It still has a giant bezel.... -_-

    • JonJJon

      Thank goodness, I want a nice area to place my thumb for grip in both portrait and landscape.

      • Hans Pedersen

        Sure, but there is definitely margins to cut on the first generation N7. And from the looks of these pics, the bezel seems to get bigger, if anything, as the rubber backside is going all the way out over the sides. Personally I think it should be fully possible to put something close to an 8" display inside the frame of the N7.

  • Tony

    I'm sure the specs are better and nice, but that bezel dear lord is huge!! I wouldn't be in the market anyways I have the old Nexus 7 and 10 and the 10 is amazing I have no need for this.

  • tracker

    My only problem is that my current Nexus 7 is amazing and I love it. I want the new one, but I'll feel bad about my current one.

  • ShahinTr

    ShahinTr • a minute ago

    Why are the bezels that big? Anybody wish to explain? I think I'd rather go with the Sony Tablet. :/

  • http://thedangerbrain.com/ Alfonso Surroca

    So, what, is this going to be the Nexus 8? It has the slim side bezels of the iPad Mini, which make it an automatic no-buy for me, personally. I use the N7 primarily for reading and those bezels are a must for that use case.

    All I want is a new proper Nexus phone with a new proper version of Android right now. My GNex is getting long in the tooth, I'm not about to get an N4 this far into its life cycle, and the S4 and One aren't real Nexus devices, they're Google Play devices.

    • selonmoi

      "All you want?"

      In what universe is it reasonable to expect a new phone be released just 8 months after its predecessor?

      Buy a Nexus 4 on the cheap or wait until Q4.

  • Sean Lumly

    I think my next 'tablet' will be a phablet. I really like my Nexus 7, but it is too big for comfortable pocket-ability in public. I also miss the cutting edge specs that come with modern phablets -- including the latest SoC, high quality cameras, expandable storage (in some), and wireless modems. Though phablets cost much more (triple the price), I'm guessing that the slight increase in portability may trump the loss in screen area.

    Does anyone else feel the same way?

  • eilegz

    hopefully usb OTG and MHL

  • Christopher Lee

    Do we have any info on the internal NAND that might be used? ASUS' track record with I/O has not been super good, and it's my one gripe with my Nexus 7 (and one of several with a TF300T). But even still...this looks super super tempting.

  • styjp

    just to clarify, the N7 has two speakers but one visible grill