25
Mar
xperia-zl

We first saw the Sony Xperia ZL back in January, and although its brother, the Xperia Z, has been available in Europe for a while now, it's taken a little bit longer for the ZL to reach American shores.

The good news is that you can now pre-order the Xperia ZL directly from Sony's website. The bad news is that it will put you back $759.99 or $719.99, depending on the model that you choose (HSPA+ or LTE). Both models will be unlocked, so you can choose to partner it with a carrier of your choice, but it's unclear as to whether the phone will be available at a subsidized price directly from carriers.

If you want to know more about the ZL before making your wallet significantly lighter, you can read our review of the phone first.

Source: Sony Store

John Thompson
John's been addicted to technology ever since he tinkered with his first custom built PC when he was 10 years old. He's also the proud owner of seven Amazon Kindles, but only because he destroyed the first six.

  • Anon

    I'd just like to point out that you put the article image as the Xperia Z instead of the ZL. Thanks :D

    • http://twitter.com/british_geek John Thompson

      So I did. Thanks, it's changed now.

  • mukkun

    $759.99 (585€)!? Are they crazy?

    • ProductFRED

      For a just-released unlocked phone? No.

      I paid $575 for my S3 i9300 last July (released in May/June), and that was after trading in $100 worth of college textbooks to Amazon to lower the price from $675.

      • utopianh

        It's actually worse than that. You're paying a subsidy for iPhone users (whom have a greater subsidy), and if you aren't upgrading aggressively, you're paying far more than that subsidized cost.

        But yeah, it's shocking how many people don't realize how much their phones actually cost.

        • ProductFRED

          And on top of that, only T-Mobile here in the US (although admittedly I'm on prepaid) actually lowers your monthly cost if you bring your own device or when you finish paying off the cost of phone. You finish paying off your phone well before the end of your contact (~1 year in), but 99.9% of carriers will keep charging you the same monthly rate.

      • mukkun

        Well, I got a Nexus 4 for 299€. Unlocked. There's no way this phone costs almost double than that. Good luck Sony moving this in decent quantities.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sixto.hernandez Sixto Manuel Hernandez

    Will the lte work on vzw?

    • ProductFRED

      No. Both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA as their primary telephony technology, which is proprietary and which unlocked phones don't support. If by some stroke of luck, you were to get LTE working, compatibility would stop there; it'd be data-only.

  • ProductFRED

    It's worth mentioning that the base model "(C6502) features HSPA+ 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz connectivity and a $719.99 price tag." The "4G LTE-enabled variant (C6506) for $759.99 that supports LTE bands 2, 4, 5 and 17, meaning that it should play nicely with AT&T and T-Mobile here in the U.S."

    Well worth the extra $40 for the 4G-LTE version since the phone is not only pentaband, but supports both AT&T and T-Mobile LTE (which is a rarity as of now). And no, this phone will not work on Verizon, Sprint, or any CDMA carrier, before anyone asks. Both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA as their primary telephony technology, which is proprietary and which unlocked phones don't support.

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    Source: http://www.phonedog.com/2013/03/25/unlocked-sony-xperia-zl-now-available-for-pre-order-in-the-u-s-4g-lte-support-in-tow/

    • Jaymoon

      Warning: Dumb question might be ahead!

      I've been on Sprint my entire mobile life, so I'm curious... The 4G-LTE pentaband version, will that support T-Mobile's HSPA+?

      I'm looking to switch to T-Mobile very soon, and I doubt they have (or will have any time soon) LTE in my small town.

      • ProductFRED

        The trick with GSM phones is in the frequencies. You'll always get EDGE (2G) for calling, texting, and basic data connectivity. (EDGE is basically 1X for GSM)

        - AT&T right now (and most of Europe) uses primarily: 850/1900 MHz for 3G and HSPA+ (what T-Mobile right now calls 4G, which can actually be fast). LTE is a different story. The average smartphone does 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G/HSPA+. This doesn't really matter, but the lower the frequency, the better the signal quality, especially inside of buildings (AT&T right now = 850/1900 MHz, T-Mobile = 1700 MHz/2100 MHz. This is why AT&T has better coverage.)

        - T-Mobile is shifting over slowly to 1900 MHz (right now it's on 1700 MHz, aka "AWS"). They'll soon be 1900/2100 MHz, which as you can see above, the average smartphone supports. As of now, most phones from overseas or AT&T will only get EDGE on T-Mobile because 1700 MHz is kind of an odd frequency outside of North America, and most non-T-Mobile devices don't support it. There are a few exceptions of course, like the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4. What this means is that eventually, if you can get 3G/HSPA+ on AT&T, it will work on T-Mobile too. That includes iPhones, for example. I live in NYC and a few areas have already switched over to 1900 MHz. This is what you keep reading about ("refarming" of spectrum).

        I'm not sure what Bands AT&T and T-Mobile use for LTE, but it's easy to Google. As you can see, compatibility won't be a concern for long because newer phones support both networks' LTE. Overall, what T-Mobile lacks in coverage, it makes up for in pricing and data speeds. Even without LTE, T-Mobile devices can get up to 42 Mbps (and on average 10-20 Mbps where I am) on HSPA+. And that's without the battery drainage of LTE.

        • s44

          (1) T-Mo uses DC-HSPA, which is double the bandwidth of AT&T's HSPA+ and actually reaches/tops LTE speeds. So AT&T's non-LTE "4G" isn't at all comparable to T-Mo's.
          (2) Almost all of NYC has already been refarmed.
          (3) T-Mo uses AWS for LTE. AT&T uses band 17 (one of the "700mhz" bands that's incompatible with the one Verizon uses). Because LTE rollouts outside of North America use neither of these, "newer phones" will only support them if they're intended for here.

          • ProductFRED

            1. I'm aware that T-Mobile uses DC-HSPA+. He's talking about frequency compatibility, not data throughput DC-HSPA+ is not available on most T-Mobile phones anyways.

            2. Isn't that what I said? I live in Brooklyn and there's refarmed spectrum, but not on most of Staten Island.

            3. I said that T-Mobile is removing their HSPA+ service off of AWS spectrum. I never mentioned that it's going to become LTE on AWS (which is correct, but I never said anything about it). And yes, I'm well aware of everything else you've mentioned.

            There was really no reason to downvote me; nothing I said was incorrect.

  • ebonyks

    ... and all at once, everyone who was considering purchasing this phone went out and bought themselves two nexus 4's

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