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Well folks, it's time for speculation and rumor on the Galaxy S IV to die... at least when it comes to the device's glamorous debut. Samsung Mobile division chief JK Shin confirmed to Edaily News (Korean) that the company's new flagship device will be revealed in New York City on Thursday, March 14th. The date was previously suspected after a well-known tipster leaked it earlier this week. Samsung has chosen to move its more typical European or Asian venue to the United States after it was "inundated" with requests from U.S. carriers to launch the device here. Let's hope that means that it will come to American shores quickly (or maybe even simultaneously) after a worldwide release.

Update: The invitations just went out - set your alarms for 7pm Eastern on March 14th and tune into the live stream on Samsung's YouTube channel:

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The location puts a spotlight on Samsung's efforts in the United States, where the Korean manufacturer aims to beat Apple on its own turf. Samsung is the undisputed king of Android smartphones, at least when it comes to market share, and the Galaxy S III alone has sold over 40 million units in various territories and variations to date. If current trends hold, you can expect the Galaxy S IV to do at least as well. Whatever changes Samsung makes to its industrial design with the S IV, expect them to inform Samsung's various smartphones and tablets following in 2013 and 2014, as was the case with the Galaxy Note II and other Android devices.

Samsung will eschew a trade show venue in favor of their own event, as they've been doing with high-profile device launches for the last year or so. With less than three weeks until what's sure to be one of the most important days in Android's calendar, expect the rumor mill to churn nonstop until zero hour. Samsung managed to keep the Galaxy S III under wraps until a little less than a week before the London event in 2012, and so far we haven't seen any compelling evidence of a leak this time around. A precise location and time have not been confirmed.

Congratulations, Samsung - you managed to turn Mobile World Congress into a sideshow for the second year running.

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Via Reuters

Jeremiah Rice
Jeremiah is a US-based blogger who bought a Nexus One the day it came out and never looked back. In his spare time he watches Star Trek, cooks eggs, and completely fails to write novels.
  • ProductFRED

    Unless the S4 is balls-out amazing, I'm sticking with my S3 for a while. It's that good.

    • s44

      Hoping for Wolfson DAC on the US version this time.

      • Mike Reid

        Qualcomm WDC93xx is pretty good too, and often part of an integrated Qualcomm solution.

        • s44

          If you mean the one in the US S3, it's terrible.

    • Matthew Fry

      I agree. My drive to see the latest and greatest kind of left with the N10 and the S3. Granted it's only been 6 months or so since I got my S3 and only 4 months since I got my N10 but usually I'm pretty ravenous by now.

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    Marked ever since https://twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/statuses/303518697551699968. That guy gets things right after all, eh? Glad to see it's confirmed now.

    Personally, I'm looking forward more to the Note event, but it'll be interesting to see what of all is new in the Galaxy S line as a preview of what's to come in the Note III.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/ron-amadeo/ Ron Amadeo

      Hmm, so which is the more important phone now? The GSIV or the Note III?

      If the GSIV gets a pen there will be almost no difference. 0.5 inches of screen = new model? No.

      • Joshua

        I've heard a lot of speculation that the Note 3 will have a 6.3" screen. Have you seen any such rumors that you'd call credible?

        If true, that would be a pretty big difference indeed.

        • ProductFRED

          That's way too big. The Note II is as large as I'll go, and I think a lot of people will agree. I know larger phones exist, but I think that's really pushing it.

          • Marsg

            If the note 3 was going to be that large than it would be nearly as big as the hauewi ascend mate and that thing dwarfs the galaxy note 2, def too large.

        • axsd

          Too big, IMHO. But who knows what market studies they've conducted. Maybe there are loads of people quietly yearning for something that finally defies pocketing altogether.

          • HopelesslyFaithful

            i am hoping for the 5-5.5 inch again...any larger get the note pad or whatever the hell that thing was

        • Marsg

          If they minimize the bezel and use a edge to edge design the difference wont be very noticeable. Take the 5 inch xperia zl for example, it has smaller dimensions than a galaxy s3 but has a larger screen.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        I'm going to hold forming an opinion until both devices are announced.

      • EMullins

        Note 3 for hardcore geeks. GSIV for everybody else.

        There is no way in hell Samsung will add a pen to the GSIV.

        • HopelesslyFaithful

          i agree on that one

        • Matchstick

          I agree it won't ship with the pen, but including the Wacom digitiser so you can use the pen it if you want would be great.

          • EMullins

            If they include the Wacom digitiser, they might as well add a pen slot and pen.

            Neither will happen.

      • HopelesslyFaithful

        Note 3 please have 16:10 so it can be my new phone

      • Marsg

        If the galaxy s4 wont get the exynos 5, which seems to be so, than the note 3 will surely have it. So i guess to me the Note is more important. Same thing last year with the U.S galaxy s3 having the s4 and the galaxy note 2 having the exynos 4. Seems the note 3 is the higher end device.

    • Matthew Fry

      They *just* released the Note II. It can't be time for the Note III yet!

  • Brfield

    Unless it's ground breaking and an insane upgrade from the S3 I will sticking with my S3, purchased on launch day. Greatest phone I've ever owned.

    • EMullins

      I just hope Samsung doesn't churn out yet another flimsy-feeling phone.

      • Marsg

        Rumors are saying its going to have a glass front, a aluminum outer ring like the iPhone and a plastic battery housing.

    • twatts

      what are you talking about?? I'm still rocking my s2 Lol. you'd be surprised what the developers can come up with to make you excited about tinkering with your "outdated" phone.

  • George

    Haven't Samsung Released the Actual Invitation for the Press, I want to see how the Invitation looks like to see if there are any possible hints about the S4?

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Not yet.

    • andybogart

      https://twitter.com/SamsungMobile

      Check the pic.. look at the black background and the letter 4...both have this dotted design...something like a Nexus 7ish back

  • rick

    Oh god please let it be less than 4.8 inches phone. I am not buying it if it is 5 inches. That is TOO much for me to handle.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      TWSS.

  • Faiz Abideen

    If it uses the Snapdragon 600, does that mean that the Exynos drama with Samsung is over?

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I'm sure they will switch right back to Exynos as soon as they work out the kinks. Whatever drama you're talking about (I'm assuming with drivers), it's not over, it's just delayed.

      • Faiz Abideen

        I haven't used Samsung so I wouldn't know much. But as a guy who likes ROMs, it's a bad sign when all the Samsung ROM devs on XDA are jumping to Sony. It seems that Samsung has a bad attitude to the devs for their platform.

        • EMullins

          Wait til you see them jump to Motorola once Google's acquisition is complete.

          • Faiz Abideen

            I can't wait for that! :P

    • Matthew Fry

      What is the drama? The S3 came out before they had a good Exynos + LTE solution. That's the only reason I know of that they used the Krait.

      • Cheeseball

        Samsung is not releasing the proper Exynos/Mali400MP source code and/or binary blobs. Qualcomm and Texas Instruments are able to do this, why not Samsung?

        • Matthew Fry

          Ah. Thanks!

  • twistkill

    Samsung chose Pi Day to launch GalaxyS4?!
    Achievement Unlocked - 314 Geek Creds!

    • Barton82

      S4 launch with Key Lime "Pi"? ;)

  • axsd

    Okay I did leave this comment in one other place. But gosh durn it, I'm on a mission!

    The S4 is just going to be another touchscreen smartphone with loads of horsepower, a large and lovely display, and no stylus or similar device (such as the Note's S Pen).

    If the current definition of "cool" or functional design just happens to be stupid, then the definition needs to change. With the stylus that came neatly tucked into the body of my ancient Samsung SCH-i760 running Windows Mobile 6, I efficiently took notes (way faster than screen typing plus you can sketch accurate arrows and so forth), highlighted documents as I read them, and made simple drawings.

    How is it that my "horse and buggy" phone was so handy for things you really can't do well on modern phones that are optimized only for fingers? The screen on the SCH-i760 is half the size, so we clearly don't require a device as large as a Note to use a stylus. (Or far better, an S Pen or something like it. Palm rejection at minimum now that the screens are large enough to sometimes require your palm or lower fingers over them.)

    It's a ridiculous waste. All this power and screen sharpness and the thing is crippled for important functions. If someone doesn't want a stylus, it won't get in the way. But it makes loads more sense for these phones to have them -- and be optimized for them -- than not.

    • HopelesslyFaithful

      sounds like you need a note.....

      • axsd

        Would like the capabilities in the more readily workable phones sizes. I'll bet I'm not the only one, and the phones are more than up to it.

        • Stylus_XL

          I really don't get your argument.

          Most non-business people don't want to use their smartphones to scribe notes and physically highlight documents. Those that *do* have options like the Galaxy Note. The size of that screen is a lot more useful for scribing because the large screen real estate makes it easier to accommodate a wider range of handwriting styles, easier to write in complete sentences and easier to produce more detailed drawings.

          The larger screens on stylus-free smartphones like the S3 are useful for media consumption and social media multitasking, which most people want a smartphone for these days. It's not a waste at all.

          While I'm sure there are people out there who do prefer to use a stylus to scribe messages on a 3-4 inch screen, I'm not convinced that your requirements represent anything other than that of an extreme minority. The phone you mentioned as an example was not a hit, either.

          I get the feeling that the people who turn their noses up at larger smartphone screens do so because they don't have the patience or confidence to get used to holding a slightly larger device (that still fits in your pocket by the way). Going from an iPhone to a Galaxy S3 took some getting used to at first, but I soon adjusted thanks to my opposable thumbs.

          • axsd

            So let me get this straight. If your phone had a stylus tucked cleanly away into the body of the phone, that would gnaw at your soul? How does that harm your user experience? If you don't want to use it, don't.

            True that including them and the device optimizations for them would be a poor investment for the manufacturers if few people would choose their phones over others for the stylus. But I doubt that would be the case. Be objective and open for a moment. You really wouldn't like being able to whip out your always-with-you phone to do a lot of the things only full tablets or a Galaxy Note are presently good for? You would prefer to have to carry along a separate device, or pen and paper, for those tasks?

            "The size of that screen is a lot more useful for scribing because ...." Fine theory you have there. But in reality, again, the relatively small screen on my previous generation phone (SCH-i760) served adequately for those functions. Doesn't matter whether that phone was a "hit"; it was still a more than sufficient proof of concept.

            We can't know how many people feel as I do. But it sure seems the S Pen is well liked by many or most Note owners. That's a biased sample of course, because they chose to get a Note. But then, that's a lot of device sales. How many people would like to be able do what you can do with a Note but simply don't want a phone that big?

            Betcha it's a lot. We'll probably get a chance to find out.

          • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

            I just wanted to point out one thing. That particular model of phone was pretty unpopular, but all Windows Mobile phones were built with the same hidden stylus. I've got 2 of them laying around right now. Every smartphone released by HTC for a few years was packing a stylus that pulled out from the bottom right corner.

            I'm staying out of this argument, if for no other reason than you two are both making some pretty questionable arguments. However, in my own personal experience, I found that there are times that a stylus is really useful. It was great for fine operations necessary for the smaller screens and tiny UI elements of the time. That need has been mostly wiped out thanks to the larger touch-friendly UIs. A stylus also doesn't block your view of the screen as much as your thumb or fingers will. I certainly wouldn't expect most phones to add a smart stylus as a feature, but it would be nice for a couple of OEMs to fill that niche. I liken it to physical keyboards, most people don't want them, but there is a minority that can't live without their slider.

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    Samsung just officially confirmed and clarified the time for the Next Galaxy Unpacked event on March 14th: 7pm EST.

    • Pattmyn

      Did you notice that it says "Samsung Unpacked 2013 Episode 1"? They better not pull an Apple and in six months from March announce the S V.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        I am sure the 2nd episode is for the Note.

      • Chris Webster

        I'm guessing its "episode 1" for the GS4 and "episode 2" will be for the Note 3

  • SYO

    Show? Hmmm.. Perhaps the S4 and Note 3 will have a heavy focus on creative production (better camera hardware, better video and photo editing built in) !

  • http://twitter.com/ShadowMunky Nathan Berry

    So, this year December when my GS2 goes to it's rest in the technological grave, I'll either be getting the Note III or GSIV. Either way, shut up and take my money Samsung

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=71107975 Michael Alexander Wright

      Um....December? Why would you get a Galaxy S4 that'll be 9 months old rather than wait 3-4 months for the Galaxy S5? Or at least do like you said and get the Note 3 assuming it comes out in the fall.

      • http://twitter.com/ShadowMunky Nathan Berry

        Yeah, point taken. I'd made the mistake with getting the GS2 in December 2011 and hadn't realised that the GS3 would have been released so soon afterwards. The Note 3 would be a better option in terms of longevity

  • Bala

    So it is going to have flexible display as by the word pack---ed

  • Mikey_H

    Well the wait is almost over! I've had an S2 for close to 18 months now and the S4 will be available just when I'm up for a contract renewal/upgrade o/. It really needs to be an impressive piece of kit, I love my S2 and most ppl I know have an S3 which (apart form the screen) is a great piece of kit. I'm actually more curious to see that Motorola come out with as their first 'proper' android phone since the Google acquisition. 2013 should be a good year for android phones, just hope all the top ones get released in the first half of the year so I don't have to wait to make a choice!

  • Brian Menius

    S&BJ Day. Good choice, Samsung.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=71107975 Michael Alexander Wright

    Ok so what can we discern from the invite photo? Last year it was the colors and theme (white/blue pebbles, nature, etc.) I'm seeing black here as well as white, though the white isn't a pure white. Perhaps metallic? Also the word "unpacked" is bent, possibly hinting at a flexible/unbreakable screen though personally I believed the technology was still just a concept as shown at CES. What do you guys think?

  • Aleebaan

    For me it's march 15th :P

  • blam

    No unlocked international phones now??? US law BS.

  • Freak4Dell

    You guys should do some sort of special podcast that night. That would make this mundane event more interesting for me. Just sayin'.

  • Faust

    As someone who works at a carrier we sometimes get representatives from cell phone companies looking to show off what they have and preparing what is to come next.

    We had one come in recently and we kept prodding him about what the next upcoming devices will have and we actually did get something from him.

    The next flagship phone (we were not sure if he was mentioning the SIV or the NIII) will have a curved display that will be visible on the edges of the phone. The display will allow a "Notification Ticker" where when the screen will be off/covered/in the pocket you will be able to see your missed calls, messages, time, and more on the edge of your phone just by quickly looking at it from out of your pocket. The curved display will use this feature and is designed for business/quick peeks for those that do not have the time to completely take out their device and access everything.

    It does sound a tad unnecessary, but the same can be said for what the SIII had before. I will not be surprised if this curved display or this "Notification Ticker" actually comes out to be in fact true for the next Galaxy S phones.

    Take it as you will, as I have said I do not see it all that necessary, but I was just summing up what we heard from the Samsung representative we had at our store a few weeks ago.

    • Faust

      One more thing I forgot.

      The Rep also described how it would be used to the normal person as "How pagers were once used to see who was calling or who left a call."

  • http://profiles.google.com/spencerar Spencer Rosengarten

    Will AP have boots on the ground at the event?

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