20
Feb
dandy

So, you've got an idea for the best app never to hit Android, and you know it'll take the world by storm once you get it published. There's just one problem: you don't know Java from an Indonesian island. You could quit your job, shop around for investors, hire programming talent, and try to make it on your own. Or you could submit your app idea to Dandy and let the people decide.

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The beta service has a funding capability, but that's where the similarities to Kickstarter stop. Prospective app makers submit their idea, which then gets voted on by Dandy members. If the idea passes the threshold, Dandy will put the creator in touch with developers for Android, iOS, Windows Phone, or Blackberry. Once the app is published, revenue is shared between all parties. Dandy's tagline, "It takes a community to raise an app," gets the message across succinctly.

It's a great idea, especially for those who wouldn't otherwise be able to enter the development arena, out of lack of capability or inclination. Which isn't to say that there aren't a few pitfalls: if Dandy is selecting the developers, how will the submitters vet them for quality? How can you ensure that the app gets regular updates a year down the road, when those same devs might be assigned to another project? Will it be possible to develop free apps using Dandy?

All these questions will have to wait for a while. Dandy is in closed beta at the moment, and the invitations aren't exactly flowing. If anyone's managed to get in, be sure and share your experiences - the next great Android app might just hang in the balance.

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Jeremiah Rice
Jeremiah is a US-based blogger who bought a Nexus One the day it came out and never looked back. In his spare time he watches Star Trek, cooks eggs, and completely fails to write novels.
  • Xye

    Most importantly, will those developers be trusted with my idea, and actually have me on board?

    I'm not trying to be negative or accusing, but not everyone is an Angle, just as not everyone is a Devil.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tstartek Tim Startek

      Think about it: the developers get a steady flow of new app ideas for a small profit cut. How many people would refuse that? A developer on his own couldn't come up with the ideas generated from this.

      • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

        There really isn't much public information, so it's hard to judge it so far. To be fair, Xye is right, it might not always be a great deal for all involved. If somebody comes up with a good enough idea, but can provide absolutely nothing else of value, it might be hard for the developer(s) to justify giving that person an equal share... Especially if the development is extremely complicated or expensive. On the other hand, a person with a truly brilliant idea and the ability to provide a lot of value to the team might really deserve much more.

        There will also be some people waiting for good ideas that will rush to build on their own without cutting anybody in (this happened a LOT with iOS-oriented communities).

        You're also right, it's good for developers who need constantly rolling app work and this might help fund some longer term development that isn't practical without investment. Of course, just speaking from experience, developers never have a shortage of app ideas. We've always got a few projects in the back of our mind and there's always somebody pitching (what they think) is the next Yelp or Angry Birds.

        I've just requested an invite, but there's really no way to indicate yourself as a developer. I'm surprised they aren't asking for the reason they are looking at Dandy.

        • http://www.facebook.com/tstartek Tim Startek

          I'm sorry I am no developer, I said what seemed like a valid point, thanks for your input.

          I also totally understand your arguments on the monetary part.

          I'm just thinking as someone who wants this app idea I have made so I can use it. I don't want money for it, I would pay for it if it were in the Play Store.

      • didibus

        How much is the idea worth in those kind of apps? Developing an app takes a lot of time and funding, plus most devs already have plenty of ideas. I feel unless there is a major incentive for devs, like Dandy will pay them, or give them free advertising, or something, I just don't see how this will pick up. I mean, I have a ton of ideas for apps right now, it would take me 20 minutes to pitch it to Dandy, then what, I expect devs to do all the work and then for me to get an equal share of the pie? That's plain unfair. Worst thing that could happen is I could deserve a smaller part of the pie, or even a one time payment, something like I'd get the first 500$ the app makes.

    • Mason Gup

      I am a developer, and though I haven't done much Android work, I'm at least a little interested in this on that angle.

      In my opinion, it isn't about trust, but added value. I've met plenty of people who can throw pie-in-the-sky app ideas out there with no consideration for how practical it is or how to go about making it real and monetizing it. The fact is, there is almost no value in just having a vague idea about something that would be cool, and it will be tough to get any real compensation for that - I wouldn't be real happy about sharing any revenue I was to make with someone whose only contribution was a sentence-long app idea.

      On the other hand, if you have real value to add to the process, such as detailed UI and functionality overview, groups of potential users to test with, contacts and relationships with other groups that might be needed to make it work (such as local businesses with a groupon-type app, that sort of thing), detailed business plan for how the app will make money, or funding to get things off the ground, then I and plenty of other developers would be glad to work with you, and you'd be sure to get a good cut of any money that came out of it.

      • Xye

        Get response. Thank you so much!

        You've really got me into developers perspective and you're completely right.

        Thanks!

        • Xye

          Great* response

  • http://www.ibnz.co.uk/ iBnz – IT & Event Engineers

    I have loads of ideas for apps and YES I am absolutely rubbish on programing :)

    Community like DANDY is a great start, but my ideas for apps are unique. Nothing similar exist on app store , how do I know it is SAFE to share my ideas with thousands of developers and other users with bright ideas. ???????

    • RitishOemraw

      Consider this:

      If not through dandy, will your apps ever see the light of day?
      Will you ever pick up programming or set up your own team to do it for you?
      And if you want to get your own team, how will you explain it to them when you can hardly explain it to Dandy.
      Last but not least: Do you want to make the app for the money, or for the joy it brings you and the users?
      Someone's first app is hardly ever a billion-dollar idea, you might get lucky and get a decent idea on your 4th/5th app idea.
      So really, how much are you standing to lose by going with dandy?

      That being said; it is all nice and dandy, but I myself have just started learning to make apps for android (okay, just followed 3-4 extremely basic tutorials >.>) but I still have hope that I can manage some simple ideas on my own (those ideas aren't even worked out enough anyway)
      So no dandy for me....just yet

      • http://www.ibnz.co.uk/ iBnz – IT & Event Engineers

        ha. so do I
        Just installed Eclipse+ADT and reading through lessons.
        Wanna work together ? :) As i am facing some beginners problems already . LOL

        • RitishOemraw

          Sorry, lately my time is being consumed by Minecraft :P
          My nights the time spend trying to fall asleep however I spend trying to think what kind of app I should make first.
          Of course I have epic ideas for games, all of which I will never be able to make. So I am torn between coming up with a fun little simple game or a simple useful app. When I decide which I want to make I'll continue the tutorials aimed at either games/tools.

        • Ryan zalez

          I love programming and have a few of my own apps out there. If you need some help getting started, let me know.

          • http://www.ibnz.co.uk/ iBnz – IT & Event Engineers

            Awesome man. Can you contact me on http://www.facebook.com/bbdd3650

          • Ryan zalez

            you caught my only weakness lol. I'm the only person under 35 that doesn't have facebook. zaleznation -at- g mail -dot- com

  • Elias

    Nice idea, but has one flaw: developers lurking inside the community, fishing for ideas. They steal the idea, develop on their own and not a cent goes to who had the idea.

  • didibus

    Why would you even let Dandy get a cut of the profit? Just start a subreddit, call it Dandy and voila! User posts ideas, the community upvotes or downvotes, devs take notice and agree to build the app giving back a small amount to the OP. Unless... The devs are actually Dandy's devs, which Dandy pays them to make apps.

  • http://twitter.com/dndyco Dandy

    Thanks for all for the comments! We are looking forward to launching, and for you all to see the inside of Dandy. If you have any questions please email us (you can find our email on the landing page).

    Taylor Jones
    Co-founder, Dandy

  • Victor

    I agree, there is risk of losing your idea, sort of "thank you we will take it from this moment". If this startup will be able to mitigate this risk, I will be down to try to find someone.
    Here is also another option I currently use: web tool to develop apps. It is quite fast and simple which is perfect for fast iterations. I ended up using ibuildapp.com, these guys have tons of design templates to choose for your idea.