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Last Updated: March 8th, 2014

Last week, a rumor from ReadWrite indicated HP was re-entering the consumer tablet market, with Android-powered hardware. HP's first stab at tablets, the TouchPad, was one of the most spectacular failures in the company's history. But given how well it runs Android, you have to wonder: how would a similar tablet that was actually built for Android fare in the market?

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If HP is working on Android tablets - which seems pretty likely, given the death of WebOS and the company's distaste for Windows RT - I personally think it could be a seriously disruptive force.

The company's laptop line has seen a popular resurgence in the last couple of years, and while printers may not be the world's most exciting product, there's little arguing that HP still has tons of brand recognition among consumers, particularly in the US. With slightly more competitive pricing (compared to the TouchPad) and HP's marketing machine getting the word out, an HP Android tablet could pose a serious threat to smaller OEMs.

That said, do you have any interest in an HP tablet, or has the TouchPad (or the company's various larger failure over the years) soured the idea for good?

Would you be interested in buying an HP Android tablet?

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  • http://twitter.com/Darkmyth_pt Darkmyth PT

    depending on specs and if it doesnt need a outside fan like my HP HDX 18 i cant even play a flash game on this beast it overheats and turns off

  • http://twitter.com/SyncV2 SyncV2

    Yeah, sure. I had the Touchpad and it was a very good Android tablet. Don't see why a dedicated one wouldn't be better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/yowan.r Yowan Rdotexe

    Only if they use stock Android 4.2 with zero bloat

    • http://twitter.com/ToysSamurai Toys Samurai

      At this point, I don't care if they use stock or not. What I care more is whether a manufacturer clearly spells out their upgrade policy. Right now, before we make a purchase, we don't even know for sure the product will be upgraded to a newer OS or not. We also don't know how fast an upgrade will be provided. I don't need a product to be supported indefinitely, or an upgrade is provided 2 days after the AOSP project is updated. I would be satisfied if:

      1) Promise an update for at least 2 years (preferably 3 years) after a product is launched
      2) Release at least a beta version of a major OS update within 3 months after the AOSP project is updated, and a final version within 6 months
      3) Release beta version of AOSP bugfixes within 15 days, and final version within a month
      4) Release security patches within 5 days

      • iampoch

        I couldn't agree more!

      • shonangreg

        Great set of standards. I'd add one more in: make the bootloader and OS open enough that when support from HP does stop, or when it becomes too slow, the hacking community can take over. If they do this, then I wouldn't care so much about all the other stuff. Having a 3-year tablet stuck on an old OS just doesn't make sense.

      • https://twitter.com/EpicEuropean Kreft

        Which is why I don't think I'd buy a non nexus tablet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/yuvalrozin Yuval Rozin

    It all depends on specs, hardware quality and price when it comes to android. don't really care what logo is on the back.

  • http://www.Nave360.com Sebastian Gorgon

    Why would i buy an unannounced product with no known specs, price and even how it looks?

  • Tommy Thompson

    Not if it has the build quality of the Touchpad

  • JamJamBoom

    If it's great, why not? Now, if the question was if i expect a great android tablet from HP, then the answer would be "No"

    • AK

      Yes. Android users are not fanboyish like Apple users and that is another good thing about Android.

      • Joshua

        Careful now, not all of us Android users aren't fanboys! I know at least one who will only purchase Samsung products, even if the competition offers products that more closely match his needs and preferences. It's weird, I think.

        • Joshua

          I could have grammared that first sentence significantly less awkwardly, but oh well. I'm sorry my fellow readers!

          • AK

            That's fine. I am not a native speaker. I'll let you live :-)

      • Fissurez

        Do you even go to android fan sites or are you just trolling?

        • AK

          Know the meaning of a "troll"? You must visit some dictionary portals. I could recommend some. Or maybe I just fed one. You never know.

  • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz

    Palm is dead, TouchPad is dead, HP is dead... leave it at that and stop producing the old tablet with hacked software

  • Jeff Baker

    I actually love my Touchpad. I rooted it and am running Cyanogenmod. I use it as my "beater" as I also have a Motorola Xoom. I'm not worried to leave it out at a party or toss it in my backpack. I've beat the crap at of the poor thing but it works great!
    The Touchpad's volume is much louder and most of the time it just feels smoother than the Xoom. I'm always surprised to see most of the games run well too.

    • Anfronie

      Yeah I'm often shocked by how well it runs android

    • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

      The speakers are great. That was a big "pro" for me. I can't believe it's taken until very recently with Samsung's front-facing speakers for another tablet to rival/beat it. These are multi-media machines, right?

      Anywho, it is a nice piece of kit. My only problem with it running Android is the battery life, at least in standby. Mine will lose a ton of charge just sitting overnight.

  • Anfronie

    Currently typing this on my touchpad with android ICS..its actually pretty nice :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1065971454 Andrew Hime

    As a webOS user, this is HP just finding another way to fuck me. So, uh, no.

  • Bilbo

    Why is the yes tainted with "I have my reservations"? I'd have none, HP are great!

  • jalal

    Only...... with nexus OS.

  • http://twitter.com/physicalist09 Physicalist

    The Touchpad was actually build for Android and retrofitted to WebOS.

  • Dan

    My HP Touch pad is still a great tablet, running cm9 with no problems. After almost 2 years I think it has done better than anything else I could have gotten for $99
    If only their next line of tablets will be the same price.

  • Jonas Hejde

    I've had my fair share of run-ins with HP products during the comparatively short time I've lived (22 years) and I have zero respect for HP. I'm ready to be proven wrong, but they have a lot to prove in my eyes.

  • syntaxxerror

    I have a Touchpad and it's not that bad running Android. However, HP must not add anything more than an AOSP port, because they do not know how to make software. Have you used WebOS on the Touchpad? It is the worst OS I have EVER used.

  • GigiAUT

    I'd snap one up in a second. My first and only tablet was an HP Touchpad. Once I got CM9 on there I couldn't put it down. Battery life is good, graphics and processor are good considering they're old tech. I think they can really bring something great to the market here and I'm willing to buy one after my experience with the TP. As long as it's running a stock or largely untouched version of Android.

  • spunker88

    I'd be worried about updates. The problem with HP and Dell seems to be they abandon mobile devices way too quickly. They didn't give the Touchpad enough time and never marketed it much, what did they expect? Its a pretty good tablet, even better with Android.

  • Asphyx

    As far as I'm concerned the more people making Android Tablets the better!
    Pushes the price down, the specs and features up and even drives the App Developers to create more products for Android because there will be more Android units out there than iPads.

  • Joshua

    I'm currently writing this from an HP computer and it's good. However, it has a lot of issues that my friends don't seem to have on other Windows 7 devices. For that reason, I'd be hesitant to purchase another HP anything when I know there are a lot of other manufacturers with better track records. For example, the next Samsung Tab 10.1 is supposed to have a very high resolution screen and the S-pen. As a student, that's a hard deal to pass up, since it would make taking notes significantly easier than using a traditional passive stylus on a capacitive screen. Therefore, my answer is "Maybe."

    • Cherokee4Life

      I'm on my HP ProBook 4540s running Windows 8 and it runs like a champ. No "major" complaints at all.

      • HopelesslyFaithful

        you need an elite book with dreamcolor ^^. I would have one if i was rich ^^

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmkattan Rami Kattan

    Wanted to vote "No", but when I saw the description besides no (my respect for HP is lower than my black ink cartridge level), I wanted to DOUBLE VOTE NO!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/BravoKiloUno BKOne

    will never buy another hp product after it killed webOS.

  • Ben Baranovsky

    No way. From now on, I'm only buying Nexus or Google-made devices. Actually, I've only ever bought Nexus devices. Also, my printer is always telling me I'm low on ink.

  • john0010

    Touchpad hardware with aosp android fit 100? I'll bite

  • troph

    Not if it looks like that ugly picture.
    On a more serious note, of course I'd buy it... if it is GOOD. I don't care what company makes it if it makes a GOOD product.

  • http://profiles.google.com/diegopadron05 Diego Padron

    Only as long as they make it Nexus-like: not too heavy of a skin applied to it and timely updates

  • Jim Barth

    HP, if you want me to ever buy another HP mobile device (yes I was one of the customers you abandon) then your device MUST come with a written update policy and a guarentee of a 100% refund of the full purchase price if you for any reason do not honor the policy. That's the only way you can make up for not supporting the product you previously sold me. There is no way I'll every again take a chance and hope for the best. Guarantee it or drop the whole idea. Scorned customers have LONG memories!

  • ScottColbert

    Nothing against HP, I have a laptop from them, but it's Nexus or nothing for me.

  • mgamerz

    I have an HP Touchpad with Android. Ran CM7, 9 and 10. While it runs pretty well, my N7 annihilates it And the build quality... sigh. My girlfriends even came in QA mode, that's QA for you!

  • Luis Augusto Fretes Cuevas

    What about: "I don't know, since we don't know anything about their potential device". I don't think the Touchpad was really that bad, but the tablet space is getting very competitive.

  • Cherokee4Life

    I want an option on the poll for...

    I would if I didn't already buy an ASUS Transformer Infinity! :)

    • UniBroW

      Infinity has the worst internal storage of any device I've ever used. I cannot wait to part ways with mine, to be honest.

  • Bojan Gutic

    Only if it's a Nexus tablet...

  • http://profiles.google.com/danielm.nc Daniel Marcus

    Maybe I'm weird, but I would absolutely love to see a more svelte WebOS tablet being offered. Now that WebOS is Open Source, (and it was always a great OS anyway, as far as I'm concerned) I think it would take off very nicely.

  • Lawrence

    Yes because it seems HP is the 1 of the few companies that understand that a 4:3 aspect ratio is better for landscape use.

  • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

    I could probably turn this comment into a whole article, but I'll keep it as short as I can.

    Realistically, while HP will release tablets to the consumer market, that isn't where they will expect to make their money. For the last 2 decades, one of HP's biggest sources of revenue has been with corporate support contracts. Basically, a business goes to HP and picks out certain models of computers and HP agrees to produce, repair and support those models through a certain length of time and to eventually cycle in new models after the old model is deprecated. HP must be looking at Apple's corporate success with the iPad and they see huge profits in this area. The iPad is being deployed across the board in a number of hospitals, some schools, and countless major businesses. It's reminiscent to the way Blackberries were handed out to techs, lawyers and executives from the 90's and on until about 2009. HP would kill to be able to add tablets to these kinds of support contracts. Just think, a high breakage rate on a high margin product and the customer is committed to getting their replacements/repairs directly from HP, that's a goldmine.

    Assuming HP runs their tablets the same way they run their computer business, there are three side effects to this kind of business model: Support, Customization, and Accessories. The support thing is good news. Granted, a lot of corporations aren't going to want to get updates quickly (or at all) because it might cause conflicts with their internal applications; however, there will be some companies that demand it. HP will probably be forced into creating updates that their customers can migrate to at their own rate, something they've done with new versions of Windows in the past. Consumers will benefit from the fact that HP has to create updates to keep those corporate customers happy.

    The bad news comes with OEM customizations. HP will happily sell tablets to business customers with little or no skinning and relatively little bloatware, but they won't do that for consumers. The skin will be ugly and the bloatware will be measured in gigabytes. Anybody who has ever owned an HP product can tell you that the primary purpose of all HP software is to sell you something else.

    Finally, HP loves accessories for portable devices. Historically, they've tried to sell docking stations for laptops, desk and car docks for PDAs, cases, styluses, keyboards, attachments, mods, expansions, or just about anything else imaginable. This stuff will be overpriced and it will be generic and boring (while still being specific to a model), but it will also be available in stores and available on day one...unlike a certain charging orb (or car docks, desk docks, cases, etc).

    There are some good things that could come out of this, but I personally wouldn't touch it unless they REALLY wow me with something truly amazing...and that just isn't their style...

  • CeluGeek

    I have an HP laptop and have no complaints about it, but I'll never buy another smartphone or a tablet from HP.

    iPAQ 6515: Never received an OS update.
    iPAQ 910c: Never received an OS update and HP never fixed their extremely buggy phone implementation.
    TouchPad: Killed after a few weeks on sale. So much for support...

    I'd rather buy a generic Walgreens branded tablet than buy one from HP!

  • Shawn Suther

    After many years of repairing HP things (laptops, desktops), I will never, ever purchase an HP anything. No exceptions.

  • ddpacino

    Not after Google released the Nexus 7. I was only a Nexus buyer with phones, and now I will continue that with tablets. I'm also going to try out a Chromebook so I can live "All Google Everything!"

  • Major_Pita

    HP could be a major disruption depending on how the choose to enter the market. If they decide to bring in a decent product at an OK price point it may be kind of a ho-hum affair. However if HP decides to make a splash and go for market penetration as it's first priority and profit as a secondary concern, things could get quite interesting. HP is capable of delivering very capable devices to market - but often not the most competitive pricing. If HP is going to do Android it needs some street cred - fast. The best way to get it would be to produce a very high quality device and price it, say at less than an iPad Mini. Maybe substantially less. Just to get our attention.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lucas-Barrie/638756513 Lucas Barrie

    If it's anything like my laptop, it'll be filled with garbage I don't want.

  • Eric G

    I don't think that the TouchPad was a failure. HP's management was. HP had the hardware, notebooks, pc's, monitors, printers, scanners, a tablet, phone's, to make WebOS a direct competitor next to Apple, beating Microsoft. I think even beating Apple.
    I think that if they had made their computers dual boot (Microsoft and WebOS) or side by side, they would have what Microsoft is now trying to do with Windows 8. WebOS had third party developers and if they knew that HP would install WebOS on every computer HP had, hell would break loose because every developer would build software for it. Even Android would fall behind, because Google hadn't all these hardware HP has. WebOS in their monitors would lead to an equivalent to Google TV and Apple TV. HP had the hardware and with WebOS a marriage would have made a very interesting new future.

    But after a few weeks, probably earlier, HP management threw in the handkerchief. Why? Beats me. Probably some people in the management would have said: it's not our business. We don't see it! Play save!
    So I mine opinion HP's management made the biggest mistake they ever could make.

    • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

      It's pretty well documented that the TouchPad was killed by the CEO who stepped in just before release, Léo Apotheker, a former CEO of SAP. He wanted to basically shut down all of HP's consumer businesses (except possibly printers) and almost all of the hardware business to turn towards the IBM business model, which is basically all massive-scale corporate software services. That guy was truly the doomsday for WebOS, making it enough of a failure that HP never could have brought it back after he was fired.

      The Verge really did an amazing story on the history of WebOS. If you've got the time (because it is quite long), give it a read: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/5/3062611/palm-webos-hp-inside-story-pre-postmortem

  • Elias

    With price close to a nexus, performance close to a nexus, quality close to a nexus, more features than a nexus (such as front-facing speakers, microsdxc and HDMI port), no bloatware/stupid customization and a written 3-year update policy to guarantee OS updates within 4 months of their release or full refund, I'd bite.
    Seriously, having options is good. But my primary choice will always be a nexus. Once you go nex, you never go back. ;)