07
Nov
9

The season for Nexus leaks is over. We already have all the glorious details about the next-gen Nexuses, so what are we doing to talk about now? How about some other stuff. New stuff. New leaked stuff.

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In this case, it's a new Sony device codenamed Yuga. The device carries the model number C660X, and sports some rather impressive specs:

  • 5" 1080p display
  • 1.5GHz quad-core processor (likely S4 Pro)
  • 2GB RAM
  • 12MP rear shooter with dedicated camera button
  • Android 4.1.1 (for now)

So far as form factor is concerned, the handset is said to have a unibody design and glass back, much like the Nexus 4. Of course, since this is just a leak, there's no info of when and where it'll be coming out, how much it will cost, or any of the other stuff that people want to know about phones they would probably buy.

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[via Xperiablog]

Cameron Summerson
Cameron is a self-made geek, Android enthusiast, horror movie fanatic, musician, and cyclist. When he's not pounding keys here at AP, you can find him spending time with his wife and kids, plucking away on the 6-string, spinning on the streets, or watching The Texas Chainsaw Massacre on repeat.

  • Derek Traini

    SONY XPERIA NEXUS! COMING TO VERIZON! hahaha jk jk

    • ddpacino

      That might have been a great Nexus... but that screen is just a waste! Imho... and 5"??? No one's hands are growing at these absurd rates the screens are growing. Before we know it, Galaxy Note-sized phones will be the norm, and that is just too much. It's back to who's d**k is bigger with these specs, with no regard to maximizing the user experience. Battery life will probably be terrible with that screen res.

      • dangle

        Ignorance plain and simple. Hate on the bezel, not the screen size. Three million GN2s in 37 days and not available from most US service providers during that time.. I think you're right about the norm, better get used to it.

        • ddpacino

          Ignorance?! Please explain. The fact that it's 1080p vs 720p is why I called it a waste as it wouldn't make a difference to the human eye unless you're looking through a microscope. The battery will use more power to push those extra pixels that really aren't needed. Can you give me ONE advantage of a 1080p screen over 720p?

          I also give zero fucks about the Note sales. Did I even say they were bad?! 3 million of the ~48+ million Android activations in that given time? It's a nice product and I would love it as an extra toy device if there was a wifi-only model -- but certainly not my main phone. It's a niche product, and always will be. Size aside, there are added functions with the stylus opposed to just a 5.5" phone without it.

          Not EVERYONE wants a phone that damn big. It'll drive people to smaller options like the iPhone. It's many of those users that would like to jump ship and get something like an S3, but hate the 4.8" screen size, not even mentioning the Note gigantic one.

          I'm not getting used to shit. I will sadly drop this ecosystem if they keep this shit up, and I ain't the only one.

          • Cheeseball

            Then buy an Android phone that isn't 5"+ or has a 1080p screen. What's the problem here?

            Android gives you choices. if you choose to not get a bigger screen phone, then DON'T get a bigger screen phone! You're basically complaining about nothing.

      • http://visionaforethought.wordpress.com/ Oflife

        Ideal for reading books actually. And Sony may concede their eReader market to Amazon (Kindle) / Apple (iPad mini) and so hope people buy books to read on Google Play's reader. I find small screens give me a headache for lengthy reading.

        • Guest

          I give zero fucks about the Note sales. Did I even say they were bad?! 3 million of the ~48+ million Android activations in that given time? It's a niche product, and always will be. Size aside, there are added functions with the stylus opposed to just a 5+" phone without it.

      • Dan

        Right, and that's why the Galaxy Note is such a dismal sales failure. Oh, wait...

        • ddpacino

          I give zero fucks about the Note sales. Did I even say they were bad?! 3 million of the ~48+ million Android activations in that given time? It's a niche product, and always will be. Size aside, there are added functions with the stylus opposed to just a 5+" phone without it. Not EVERYONE wants a phone that damn big. Unless you can Prove that, STFU.

          • Cheeseball

            Then buy an Android phone that isn't 5"+ or has a 1080p screen. What's the problem here? You're basically complaining about nothing.

          • ddpacino

            My point is that there is a trend here that all the available phones are going up to and above 5". There will be no smaller options. Something like the S3 Mini? Ha, it's an under-powered, mid-range device, and not just a smaller S3. That's my problem here.

          • Cheeseball

            That is obviously not going to happen. Rest assured that not *all* smartphones will be made that way as it's reserved for flagship devices like the Note II.

            Mobile SoCs with powerful GPUs are being created so that we can have higher resolutions on mobile devices, which means we can finally have better image quality. It doesn't make sense to have a powerful CPU+GPU then limit the phone to just 640p or 720p.

          • ddpacino

            While I agree somewhat, I also feel those powerful ships are for graphic-intense games and the like. I just bought the new Need for Speed and that thing lagged like crazy on my Gnex. Tried to boost the speed, power mode for the kernel and all, but it just wouldn't stay smooth. I won like 3 races anyway, lol.

            ANYWHO... My simple question is: What's the real benefit of 1080p on a screen that small? Cutting it back to 720p (and no lower), should have a impact on battery life, positively.

          • Cheeseball

            I guess the only real benefits would be a cripser, less-pixelated display (thus higher-quality images) and being able to actually play 1080p videos without downsizing.

      • GraveUypo

        as long as it's not much bigger than a galaxy s3 i guess i'm ok with it. galaxy note is a tad across the fence already tho.

  • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

    Unibody and glass back. Are the days of phones that don't shatter and let you swap batteries because they die halfway through your workday coming to an end? Did Apple destroy it for those of us who are sane?

    • ddpacino

      You have other options on the market. Isn't that what Android is about?! One Xs and S3s are out there for your kind.

      • debtac20

        One X has a unibody design and non-removable battery....

      • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

        The One X ALSO has a non-replaceable battery, thank you very much. And my point wasn't that I have NO choices, it was that we seem to be starting to see a pattern with the highest-specced phones going in this direction. Until the One X, HTC's phones all had replaceable batteries. Until this Xperia and the Nexus 4, each of those companies didn't have glass backs on their phones. Companies who made products built for people who actually use their phones enough to kill the battery or who know that they occasionally get dropped have started to change their designs. Yes, I have a choice NOW. My complaint was about the fact that this pattern suggests that "my kind" (WTF?) may not have that choice much longer if the pattern maintains. Clear enough?

        • Droid Burgundy

          I agree! I use 5 batteries in rotation on my Gnex currently and despite the batt life of some phones like the Razr Maxx series... I dont want to depreciate my batt over time only to be stuck with a device with no resell value that needs to be upgraded!

          I guess for now the GS3 was the last phone worthy of "our kind" to upgrade to.... hopefully it won't be the last!

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            Exactly how I am. My SGSII, as I've mentioned, was highly-regarded for its battery life. Reviews raved about it. And I still killed it frequently enough that I carry four spares on me. Granted, most days I dip into only one of them, and some days I can manage to not even do that, but there's no chance I'm going to pretend that those days are my norm and I can be fine with never swapping it. From 1800 to 2000, and a minor efficiency gain in new models means that, at best, I can maybe assume I can make it through the average day safely. Great. Too bad my life is full of non-average days, trips, conferences, conventions, places with incredibly poor signal, times when I have to use my phone incessantly away from a charger, etc. My life dictates that my phone function outside of those types of circumstances, and being able to swap batteries is a far more elegant solution than a giant Mophie pack or a tethered external battery.

            Yep, "our kind" is unfortunately stuck with TouchWiz, it seems, since stock Android is relegated now to the Nexus 4, and even Sony who's been making great strides toward both VERY efficient skins AND being open to custom ROMs is following in their footsteps.

        • irishgreen

          I have an Evo Late which has a non removable battery. I get minimum 14hr out of the battery. And that's watching movies etc. Who needs it removable when it lasts all day minimum. And I can provide screen shots for any naysayers :)

          • irishgreen

            EVO LTE*

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            I believe you. I also believe, based on my experience with an Epic 4G Touch which was revered for its battery life that I could still kill it in a day. Your use doesn't translate to mine. I can get that life on my phone if I'm on WiFi all day. If I'm actually working, moving around in areas with differing signal levels, and expecting to rely on my phone? I'd be lucky to make it to end-of-workday. Put me somewhere like TAM or Dragon*Con with poor in-hotel signal and heavy need for Internet? I'd be dead in the water.

          • GraveUypo

            i don't mean to be smug or anything, but i think a car charger would help you a lot.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            I have a car charger. I don't live in my car.

          • GraveUypo

            yes, but you do the "moving around in areas with differing signal levels" parts presumably in your car. like i said, not trying to be smug or judge. each person has different uses for a cellphone. i also have a very peculiar thing in which i need some apps to work completely offline because i get no reception in my farm, where i need them most.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            Occasionally, yes, that happens in a car, and that's the ONLY shot I have at making it through the day. But even them, if I'm using my GPS, that often drains my battery as fast as or fasting than it's charging. But much of my moving around in low signal areas is in office buildings or job sites. No car, no ability to plug in.

    • dangle

      Technology changes so should your opinions.. I have a E4GLTE (CDMA device!)with a non-removable 2000 mAh battery and I'm a power user, no complaints here. I never once had wished I could swap out my battery. As technology improves (screen, battery, SoC) and battery capacities increase a removable battery is quickly becoming a novelty.

      • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

        I have yet to see a phone that makes a replaceable battery a novelty, outside of the RAZR Maxx, perhaps. I find it unfathomable that I wouldn't kill an E4GLTE in a day based on the reports I've read. I could easily kill my E4GT in a day, and it was revered for its battery life. My opinions aren't based on assumptions, they're based on actual use of actual products the way I actually work.

        My point isn't that I'm against change or choice. It's that manufacturers don't appear to yet be making an effort to prioritize battery life over thinness. Their increases in battery size lately seem only to counter their increases in screen size, and while battery life is improving mildly, it doesn't yet counter the need for a replaceable battery. Look at the terrible life the Nexus 4 is getting. That certainly doesn't justify it. I can't imagine what a 1080p screen might do to a battery.

        And most of my iPhone-using friends have to have Mophie battery packs to get through a day, and that's another phone that's claimed to be incredibly power efficient.

        My concern is simply that the current trend is moving away from high-end phones that are solid and make it easy for people like me to carry extra batteries toward this new standard, and that's going to be a problem.

        • dangle

          Seeing something, reading something, assuming something, and experiencing it first hand are totally different things. Outright right or wrong, opinionated or biased, you're entitled to your opinion. The problem with it is the industry sets the terms and we either support such terms with our wallets or simple don't. As a consumer with a handset that features a mildly sized non-removable battery I speak with firsthand experience. I ensure you the sky is not falling friend. While this is my experience, opinion, and ultimately now my bias.. I choose to share it in the hopes it may open the minds of fellow consumers. I understand people are stubborn creatures of habit but I do what I can. As far as you claiming your opinions aren't based on assumptions we can only take your word on it and thus assume you've got real world extended experience with multiple of such devices..

          In the end I support the trend fully. I enjoy being free from extended batteries that limit my case selections or force proprietary ones on me. I purchased a battery pack when I got my phone and like the idea of the flexibility it introduces. Honestly though it just sits in my desk having gone unused.. I enjoy no longer having to carry around multiple batteries like some of you have mentioned, I've been there, I used to have batteries stashed everywhere, lol!

          These are "high-end", "solid", and premium handsets in most cases. I feel for anyone who passes judgement early on such devices or limits their choices simply due to a trend like this.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            Again, my opinion is based on experience, as stated, along with extremely educated extrapolations. When I read a review that claims a certain battery life based on certain usage, and I've used the same phone and killed it, regularly, in half that time, I know how to judge my usage against the reviewer's standards. And I can compare to my friends based on the usage I know they employ.

            Yes, I vote with my wallet, but when the majority vote a certain way, and the manufacturers all move in that direction, I'm no longer left with the ability to vote for anything but the new standard, and I get screwed, carried along kicking and screaming.

            I don't see "choice" as this terrible thing you seem to, though. You act like the extendeds were necessary, or that having the option to buy additional batteries is a burden. And you seem confused by this false dichotomy that it can be your way or my way ONLY, when I see no logical reason a phone can't have the battery life YOU seem to be very happy with while also having the ability for people like me who eat through it quickly to be able to switch the battery. Why is that choice not acceptable to you?

            And yes, I know these are high-end and premium handsets. That's EXACTLY my complaint. They don't represent my needs, and they're taking over that bracket, LIMITING my choices to either a phone with a back that can shatter and a battery that I'll kill, or lower-end handsets. I'm not limiting my choices due to this trend, the trend is limiting them for me by not meeting my needs.

          • dangle

            Like I said.. we'll have to take your word on it. Having one device with a non-removable battery doesn't make anyone an expert on the subject.. Further, it's unfortunate if such expertise gives anyone the urge to then pass judgement on all other similar handsets. I personally would never share my opinion on a device based on a review, a friend's experience, or my own claimed "extremely educated extrapolations".

            You assume to much and seem to be missing the point of the conversation..

            Consider for a moment you are the exception and no longer the norm. Mind blown. "I'm not limiting my choices due to this trend, the trend is limiting them for me by not meeting my needs." Exactly.

          • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

            I'm not basing it on one device. I already clearly stated that. I'm basing it on a multitude of experiences and sources of data. I'm also an IT manager who deals with hundreds of clients' phones that I get to observe regularly. I'm surrounded by friends who own cutting-edge devices and use them in ways similar to how I use mine, or more, or less, and I get to base my decisions on their own experiences.

            You're determined to brand me as unusual, an outlyer, an anomaly, but you're ignoring every statement I've made that I'm not alone in this, you're ignoring other people in this thread who've agreed with me, you're ignoring plenty of other people on the Internet who complain of the same thing, who kill their iPhones by mid-day, who turned in their E4GLTEs and One Xs due to exactly this issue, who had to replace their RAZRs with RAZR Maxxs, who gave the Nexus 4 poor marks due to exactly this. I'm not the exception. I may or may not be somewhere near the "norm," but I represent plenty of people's needs, and ignoring us when simply making a phone with the same battery life AND a swappable battery would make BOTH camps happy seems pretty damn reasonable to me. I don't see why YOU'RE so hell-bent against products that provide a choice.

      • Knatcal

        Obviously you translate power user differently than I. I chew through bare minimum 3000mAh a day, and heavy days 6000. I will never buy a phone with non removeable power. Even if they gave me more than enough mAh, what happens when i fatigue that battery in a year. You just cant reasonably argue for permanent batteries unless extra phone sales/repairs directly pads your wallet, as there is no benefit to the consumer.

        • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

          Thank you. Battery conditioning and use, especially with a phone I'll be forced to cycle far more frequently instead of being able to spread my usage across multiple batteries, will lose its life far sooner. And since it's not replaceable, I'll be stuck with it. My E4GT's battery, after a year, was expanding and losing life. I bought two new ones for a little over $20.

  • peacekeeper05

    looks like the Optimus G

  • EH101

    If it were unlock-able, I'd take this over the Nexus 4...only because of the camera button. I miss the dedicated camera buttons of my old Blackberries.

    • nsnsmj

      Preach! Seriously though, Sony seems to be the only Android manufacturer adding dedicated camera buttons. I wish all phones had them. It was one of the reasons I was hoping Sony was making a Nexus.

      • Sqube

        Y'all are speaking my language. A dual stage hardware camera button that can launch your camera from anywhere is just the business.

  • dangle

    Finally Sony brings something I can put my wallet behind. I'm looking forward to Q1-Q2 2013 in regards to handsets if this 5+ inches is the benchmark. Hate the bezel not the screen size!

    • fixxmyhead

      i for one welcome these 5+ in phones

  • ConCal

    I hate that home button icon.

  • http://androidforums.com/members/spartoi.html Spartoi

    Gorgeous.

  • http://twitter.com/psych2L Joseph Lee

    Go Sony, we need another successful Android OEM other than Samsung!

  • Jav11 .

    is this another flagship from sony? cool.

  • fox

    yeah, drop-dead gorgeous if you are mistaken this thing with a brick. When it comes to dull phones Sony and Samsung are the best in delivering something that is not a brick but resembles to a phone. WOW!!! I am amazed how desperate are some manufacturers in releasing their flagship that are actually a beefed up hardware inside but ugly looking on the outside "intel inside, idiot outside". Well i guess some are stupid enough to buy this things so called smartphones.

    Then again what is a smartphone for you?

  • http://twitter.com/vikramadityarai Vikramaditya

    Specs are nice, but the same old, boring UI really sucks...

  • Dan

    Why can't this be a Nexus? :(

  • WinWizard

    Im throwing my money at the screen why isnt it working

  • heat361

    There is no need to have 1080p in phone

  • Albin Hermansson

    Sony will never be an option if they don't update their UI... It's really Gingerbreadish... And let's face it, ICS came out over one year ago... They should totally go with stock Android or at least something more modern... I mean, they still have those horrific status bar icons they introduced on the ARC (or maybe before that?)

  • gpapadin

    Oh, sweet! Another high powered phone, with great specs, design, but looks like its WITHOUT a removable battery or MicroSD card slot (just like the Nexus 4). My next guess would be no 4GLTE with this guy either. If we had a single employee from AndroidPolice design the next android phone, I truly think that it would be the best selling smart phone in the world.

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