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Oct
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Remember that HTC phone with the massive, 5" 1080p display that we've been hearing rumors about? Well, it's here! Where "here" means Japan. The Taiwanese manufacturer has just announced the HTC J Butterfly, the follow up to the previous HTC J model. This phone is packing a positively drool-worthy 1080p SLCD 3 display (you read that right) in a 5" slate. In case you were wondering, that is a retina-destroying 440ppi.

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Do you even care about the rest of the specs? Well, I suppose you do, but nothing's going to make you care more about this phone than that display. Here are your appetizers for that delicious entrée, though:

  • APQ8064 (1.5GHz) Quad-Core Snapdragon S4 Pro + MDM9615 modem
  • 2GB RAM
  • 16GB of storage
  • MicroSD card support
  • 8MP rear shooter
  • 2.1MP front camera
  • 2020 mAh battery
  • Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n
  • Bluetooth 4.0/BLE
  • Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
  • LTE support
  • 71 x 143 x 9.1 mm
  • 140g

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This thing is a monster. Unfortunately for most of you English-speakers, this particular unit won't be available outside Japan, though HTC has said that the display will be making the global tour, appearing in phones in around the world. So don't worry, your lust for more pixels than your eyes can physically appreciate will not go unfulfilled.

Source: HTC

Eric Ravenscraft
Eric is a snarky technophile with a taste for the unusual. When he's not obsessing about Android, you can usually find him obsessing about movies, psychology, or the perfect energy drink. Eric weaves his own special blend of snark, satire, and comedy into all his articles.

  • Ian D. Smith

    WOW!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/humberto.verdugo1 Humberto Verdugo

    Bring it to US!

  • Adrian

    Sweet jesus!

  • Taskman

    That display and "only" 2020 mAh battery. I really hope HTC knows something the rest of us don't since with that display they should have at least 2500 mAh.

    • El Big CHRIS

      This. The minute I began to read the part about the display I wondered the same thing. If the phone is that huge, there must be plenty of room to slap a big battery.

    • Jose Marie Maquinay

      It could be a different type of efficient battery, somewhat like the battery in the LG Optimus G...

      • hot_spare

        An efficient battery might take less space, and might charge faster. But a 2020 mAh battery is still a 2020 mAh battery. Doesn't matter how much efficient is that, the capacity is still low.

        • Jose Marie Maquinay

          True, the capacity is low BUT it doesn't necessarily mean that the phone's run time will also be low. mAh is not an accurate measure for run time, it also depends on battery type.

          For example a 2200mAh lithium polymer (lipo/li-ion) battery (like the ones we use in our current mobile phones) can easily outlast a 2600 mAh Nickel Cadmium (NiCd) battery (like the one used in mobile phones in the old days).

          In short : run time = battery mAh + battery type + phone electrical efficiency

          There's a reason HTC used a 2020mAh battery, I'm just hoping its a different battery technology and not a design mistake...

          • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

            May be, but the RAZR MAXX has taught up that putting a 1000+ mAh bigger battery will only make the phone less than 2mm thicker. Even if the runtime of the current battery is already good, what's so wrong to increase the thickness for just a tiny little bit and increase the runtime even further?

          • ssj4Gogeta

            Not at all. NiCd batteries have a voltage of 1.2V while Li-ion have 3.7V. mAh isn't actual capacity. mAh is current * time, which is charge. Actual capacity is voltage * charge, which is energy.

            A 2200mAh NiCd has 2.2 * 1.2 = 2.64watt-hour capacity.
            A 2200mAh Li-ion has 2.2 * 3.7 = 8.14watt-hour capacity.

            We don't mention the voltage because all the phones now use a 3.7V battery. So no, Li-ion isn't "more efficient" than NiCd. Li-ion had more capacity to begin with.

            And since it's almost certain that the phone has a 3.7V battery, you can directly compare capacity using the mAh alone. Of course, how efficient the rest of the hardware is will affect the battery life.

          • Kevin

            That is because lipo is 3.7V while NiCd or NiMH are 1.2V. There is an obvious difference, the 2200mAh lipo is 3.7*2.2=8.14Wh, while the 2600mAh NiCd is 1.2*2.6=3.12Wh.

            HTC does not have a battery with a voltage higher than 3.7V. All high-efficiency batteries out there right now are lithium-based and will have approximately the same voltage.

  • Noriega713

    Why couldn't they slap stock Android and call it a Nexus...

    • http://www.facebook.com/humberto.verdugo1 Humberto Verdugo

      I would be awesome if this phone was a Google phone. I don't like LG =/

      • ha33an

        Read the back of the device. Near the bottom it says with Google. Could become a nexus device. Im praying it does so that I can sell my S3 and get a nexus for once.

        • Dave

          The "with Google" branding effectively says that the device is powered by Google services/apps. It really has nothing to do with the Nexus brand (the LG Nexus being an anomaly). It's been on plenty of non-stock phones in the past.

    • dude

      That doesn't do anything, you still have to deal with Hboot, S-OFF, and losing your warranty in the process.

  • http://www.facebook.com/z3nkun Zen Kun

    well if its unlocked and exported by some dude on ebay would be awesome xD

  • Bariman43

    Mother... of... God... Now get rid of Sense and make this a Nexus and I will become an HTC fanatic in a heartbeat. That is one sick phone.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I kind of dig it. I'd get this as a Nexus for sure. Though, that battery life :S. Doesn't the Note II have a 3100mAh?

      • thedoginthewok

        They probably only worried about the "thin-ness" of the phone.

        • http://googleplus.VoluntaryMan.com/ William Thieme

          That is their new policy, unfortunately.

          • Fifth313ment

            I agree, I would rather a thicker phone but this is amazing! I want this phone! I just wish they would go back to removable batteries!

      • GreenyO

        Even the GS3 has a 2100 mAh in a smaller and "only" 720p display.
        Unless it's a brand new revolutionnary battery it's gonna suck...

        • http://twitter.com/augustofretes Luis Augusto Fretes

          The S3 has an AMOLED screen which is an utter joke when it comes to power consumption unless you're displaying black only.

      • PINJ

        Which Makes It Even More Annoying Cause They Will Use Is As Another Excuse To Use Their Positively Party Stopping Aggressive Background-Task-Killer

        • Jay

          PINhead you hang around here like a stray dog outside of a butchers shop.
          Hang 5 I'm almost finished my half chicken.. i'll leave you the bones soon.
          AND skin too... mmmm Tasty Skin For You To Enjoy... you troll

        • ssj4Gogeta

          Please stop capitalizing the first letter of every word. It's annoyingly hard to read.

      • Bariman43

        I had no idea 2020mAh was actually considered small. I'm not too well-versed in what makes a good battery. I'm sure though that if they brought this to the US that they'd fix these problems.

    • NeedName

      My first Android device was an HTC. . . doubt I'll ever buy an HTC supported device again. Not that they make bad hardware or poor designs. . . just poor support via the carriers — Nexus only for me!

    • Simon Belmont

      This is the next Nexus that I want. Please, HTC, make this one of the new Nexus handsets.

      I agree with Artem about the battery though. It needs to be at least 3000 mAh.

    • JG

      Exactly. Though, I wouldn't mind if they bumped internal storage up some (64GBs) while keeping the SDXC SD card (64GB card support). And enlarging the battery some - say 68000mAhs - double the Razr's. I'll gladly trade in a few extra millimeters of thickness for a device I can get some serious use out of. Also, I'm assuming it was just an oversight - but what about NFC support?

  • sky stanojevic

    OH SNAP!.. i think my eye's just came ..that display must be mine soon please HTC.. please?..

  • http://twitter.com/Deaddragonz K3V Productions

    I want it!!

  • Matti

    It's highly probable that the display itself is Japanese - those 5" panels Sharp showed off recently, maybe even manufactured in Sharp's Sendai plant - so it might be the reason they're keeping it for the Japanese market at the moment, since stock/yields are likely to be low.

    I agree with most of the other comments. Make a Nexus out of this baby and I'll definitely give it heavy consideration.

    A bit concerned about the thickness though, or lack of it to be more precise. Concerned about a skinny battery having to power that many pixels.

  • http://jeremyperez.com Jeremy

    Why no US? Oh yeah, it's square with rounded corners, and with a 5in display, idiots will confuse it for an iPhone 5.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It'll probably come to U.S. with some tweaks and at a later time.

      • Mikey Styles

        Maybe VZW will cripple it, lock it, load tons of bloatware with an annoying Wi-Fi notification & call it the DROID Incredible X....Lmao sorry guys had to say it hahaha. I'm a VZW customer & they continually get worse IMO

  • Tyler Chappell

    Wow, that is stunning, I'd upgrade from my Thunderbolt in a heartbeat

    • Tommy Thompson

      I would have upgraded from the Thunderbolt a few million heartbeats ago..

      • Tyler Chappell

        It gave me many frustrations in the beginning, but mine has been running like a champ for over a year now.

  • Sam

    This is sick. I need one. Give it to me. No! Nao!

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/ron-amadeo/ Ron Amadeo

    SO MANY PIXELS. I WANT THEM ALL.

    Sense and hardware buttons are a deal-breaker, though. =/

    • Andy

      May i ask why so many people seem to care so much about having/not having software buttons?

      • Tom

        wasted space. the front (IMO at least) should be all screen with no buttons at all. the buttons should be soft buttons and come and go as required so for video etc, it gives you even more screen real estate

        i demand hard buttons on the side for volume +/- though. some would like a camera button too.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/ron-amadeo/ Ron Amadeo

        You kind of have to own a software button phone to understand. It's significantly more modern, you get the Google Now shortcut, you can change them with a rom, they rotate with the phone, and they're the design direction Google wants to go in.

        It's part design, part future-proofing, and part "hey, that's neat." I'll never go back because I like my devices to feel modern, and on-screen buttons feel significantly more modern.

        Someone will reply and say something like "they're a waste of screen space," but then so is every UI element. You can spare the pixels on a 5 inch phone.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Someone did reply with "waste of space," but supporting you. Either way, you waste some space, but with software buttons, that space can become the screen, whereas with hardware, they're always there.

          I'm with Ron, though I'm also perfectly fine using a phone with Menu and Back buttons.

          • http://profiles.google.com/marcusleejh Marcus Lee

            The space used for the software buttons almost never "becomes the screen", even in full-screen games. The buttons often just sit there, lit up, and drawing attention away from what's important.

            Only Youtube and I think the default video player handles the black software button bar well.

          • arben

            It might move along a little faster if HTC and Samsung would use the goddamned buttons that Google wants them to use so that software buttons can actually get some real marketshare and devs feel an incentive to do a proper job.

          • http://profiles.google.com/marcusleejh Marcus Lee

            That might well be true, but don't forget that Samsung's and HTC's obligations are to their customers, not Google.

            If both of them think what Google is doing will benefit customers (and thereby increase demand and therefore sales), they'll naturally jump on board. Seems like they don't think that is the case for now.

          • enoch861

            One way I tell people to think of software buttons is like this:
            Imagine the software buttons are where your hardware buttons would be, because technically that's where they are. In that case, your getting a benefit by getting a larger screen.
            You could remove the software buttons and add hardware buttons but why not just stretch your display a bit and get software buttons? Software buttons or not, the screen real state will be the same. Its just that the former gives a larger screen during certain things which a lot of people like. (after rooting, you should be able to control the height of the buttons, effectively gaining everyday usable real estate).

            So to me, software buttons or not, its still the same thing. It only sucks if a manufacturer includes software buttons on a phone with a lot of bezel.

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/ron-amadeo/ Ron Amadeo

            I keep waiting for a manufacturer to do that, and just lop off the bottom of the phone. There's really no need for all that bezel on the top and bottom anymore.

          • cowgar

            not really true
            the screen estate is *allways* taken - it's taken from 16:9 aspect ratio area. No matter the resolution (or like Ron said, size in inches) - you cut from it whether you're in 3/5inch phone or with 640p/720p resolution.

            what as Artem is pointing out *can* be the advantage is - the phone can be shorter in the hand, missing another say 0.5-1cm of height where the HW buttons would be.
            Sadly that's true only from time to time - so If you're alright with taller phone HW buttons are still better and you see more on most common DPI/16:9 screen factor. Software buttons can hide from time to time tough to show the missing screen space.

          • http://twitter.com/augustofretes Luis Augusto Fretes

            What you're stating is untrue. I don't think you can provide me an example of any on-screen buttons device which has a smaller bezel. There's no correlation.

        • bowker678

          I have trouble when using the keyboard on my nexus 7 with its on screen buttons as i keep hitting home instead of space!

    • Himmat Singh

      I'm with Andy here. I have used phones with both software and hardware buttons, and I see no rationale whatsoever in software buttons. Then again, I don't go installing a new ROM every 30 minutes and play around with button arrangements like a small kid, so I may be missing something.

      The software buttons are a real bonus on a tablet (10 inch especially), but on a phone, I personally prefer hardware buttons. Besides, when they say the Galaxy Nexus is 4.65 inches, that includes the space taken by the software buttons, thereby decreasing usable screen estate. And did I say soft buttons look ugly?

  • HO ME

    Make it a NEXUS and everyone is HAPPY

    • cowgar

      well it's qualcomm S4 isn't it? So CM10 will be a breeze - the best / most open / widely liked SoC out there... (it's not like obscure Exynos or out-of-support OMAP or buggy Tegra3)

    • olbp

      No, without the stylus and NOTE style apps, it is nothing.

    • http://evildevnull.com/thinktank/index.php?action=collapse;c=14;sa=collapse;d227fb2388ec=9e8bb86861f0686e54bcbaae99929bbd#c14 George Leon

      No, make it a Nexus & the 0.5% of consumers that care will buy it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/AJ-Stinger/653385934 AJ Stinger

    do want do want do want do want!! This phone is simply beautiful

  • http://observaelinfinito.tumblr.com Oscar Garcia

    What bugs me the most is that "with Google" logo, those are everywhere now...

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/ron-amadeo/ Ron Amadeo

      I believe all it means now is "This has Gapps."

  • Dima Aryeh

    I read "5" 1080p SLCD3" and thought "Though 1080p is an obvious overkill, that display must look just plain gorgeous." Then I read "2020 mAh battery" and I threw my computer across the room. They.... they ruined it.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      At least in Japan.

      • Dima Aryeh

        Does HTC have a history of releasing phones that differ in other regions, besides in processor?

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Well, I mean, the EVO LTE is a changed up One X, for example.

          • Dima Aryeh

            Good point. Maybe VZ will get a beefed up variant in the US.

          • Dave

            Wasn't there reports that the Droid Incredible X (which would a variant of this phone) has a 2500mAh battery but only 1.5 GB of RAM? Of course rumors are rumors.

          • Tommy Thompson

            Yup, Verizon is getting the DIX..

    • QwietStorm

      What did you finish typing on?

      • Dima Aryeh

        My HTC J Butterfly O_o it only had enough juice for that one message

    • lycan codex

      What about this phone with a bigger battery??? HTC J Butterfly plus

      • Kenny O

        You mean the "HTC J EVO Butterfly+ HD LTE Special Edition"

  • mduran1023

    The Verge had some hands on time and is saying the screen is the best of all smartphones.

    Even posted a close up shot against the iPhone 5 screen, and the iPhone looks choppy by comparison.

    Boggles the mind. Kinda like the fanbois that have immediately shown up to say that anything beyond retina is a waste and unnecessary lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Sunghwa-Woo/542631978 Ray Sunghwa Woo

    Make it HTC Butterfly MAXX.

  • harry

    I'm reading comments moaning about the battery - I hear you. But this beast has Microsd support, something the One X doesn't, so there is a possibility of removable battery.

    • Tommy Thompson

      There's a door on the side for the micro SD. The EVO LTE has a micro SD slot as well as a non-removable battery.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lain-Ethan-Macauley/1080526420 Lain Ethan Macauley

    2020mAh? Is HTC kidding?

  • HellG

    correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't
    more pixels = more power consumption
    IPS screens = Okay battery life
    Note 1 power efficient fake 720p screen (because its pentile) = Okay battery life even though it have 2500Mah battery when this one have a smaller one?
    in conclusion doesn't that means that this thing will have one horrible battery life if not indeed the worst?
    I swear am not bashing or anything, this are just my thoughts!

    • Mikey Styles

      SLCD3 is super efficient(by 40% as it's said) compared to all other SLCD screens. Plus the S4 Pro Chip-Set sure helps as well. But still leaves me wondering as well(scratching head). 2500-3100mAh would be more optimal IMHO

      • HellG

        As far as i know
        SLCD = LCD
        SLCD 2 = IPS
        SLCD 3 = IPS+
        shouldn't IPS+ use more power as its brighter? :/

        • cowgar

          just to correct your knowledge ;-)
          SLCD = PVA tech (thus still 8 bit per color channel, weaker viewing angles etc) - like on Desire Z I had

          • Mikey Styles

            Good addition, forgot about the PVA part....but sony was able to bring it up 10bits in high end Bravia TV's b4 selling out to Samsung last yr. Either way it has TFT on the LCD screen which still uses In Pane Switching last I knew or the info given to me by my cousin(Works for Samsung in Korea).

            Please feel free to correct me.....Just saying this new screen with be very colorful, brighter, yet less power hungry. Honestly once the Flexible OLED screens make it in phones they'll be hard to knock off. Brighter, use less power, excellent blacks, more outdoor friendly(glare), environmentally friendly, thinner & hopefully cheaper to produce in due time.

          • HellG

            awesome info guys, my knowledge on that field is really lacking lol! but honestly i dont want any power saving mode from HTC their last memory saving mode destroyed android multitasking i think they should just stick a 3000mah battery in that thing and call it a day! less than that i will be really disappointed, i dont know why HTC love to keep the reputation of greatly built phones and...Small batteries with horrible lifetime, we need you back HTC :/

        • Mikey Styles

          SLCD 2 = TFT(Thin Film Transistor) based Super IPS(In Pane Switching) LCD

          SLCD 3 = TFT(Thin Film Transistor) based Advanced Super IPS(In Pane Switching) LCD+ with higher contrast more clear colors but more power efficient, as well as cheaper to mass produce

  • Cenarl

    Just when I thought I wouldn't be jealous of anything (till next galaxy) if i bought a Note 2. Another .5 vs Dat screen and maybe the argument of more "reasonable" size but still 5" of screen. I feel like im back at square one.

  • http://twitter.com/Dave_BG Dave Bg

    What a beast! WOW!

  • fdsf

    small battery and tiniy storage... 2 dealbreakers!

    • Mikey Styles

      It does have microSD available. So additional storage can be added, it's just not mentioned in the post.

  • oneillperson

    The best 3 things about this phone:
    Monstrously gorgeous screen
    Sleek color options
    Awesome name (only in Japan)

    • L boogie

      definitely agree, add blue and have a nexus-colored phone for the nexus 5, should be something (not likely but just throwing it out there lol)

      • L boogie

        this is regarding the color options

  • Alexander Procter

    Which carrier is this going to be on?
    Edit: Derp...it says AU on the phone.

  • Larizard

    HTC NEXUS J.

    Do it, Google.

  • http://isradroid.wordpress.com/ Shay Levi

    Anybody know if it have Stylus support?

    • Tommy Thompson

      In a sense it will. But not like the Note or Note II. What makes the Note and Note II so special is the Wacom digitizer that's used.

  • gltovar

    also wtf, non onscreen buttons.... HTC a bigger battery and non onscreen buttons could have been your rebirth moment >_<

  • Al

    I am screaming RED & MICROSD SLOT OMG when I saw this, but 2020mAh battery? Yikes! I hope when it comes here it is a removable battery too

  • http://twitter.com/Darkmyth_pt Darkmyth PT

    amazing specs... but i dont know if i want to walk around with a phone called butterfly....

  • jaysann22

    Is the battery removable?

  • http://m.youtube.com/mrjlwilliams J. Williams, click here

    Galaxy Note FINALLY has some competition. WOW

  • Geoff Johnson

    Another review said this was a waterproof phone, is that true? It looks to be awesome in every regard, except battery. WHY, WHY HTC do you never include an adequate battery?

  • http://twitter.com/Vizualize a.d.AM

    I was hoping for a Japanese LUNCH but I guess this is ok too.......

  • L boogie

    obviously we're looking at nexus 5 minus microSD AND HOPEFULLY A 3000+ BATTERY (C'MON Sense 4+, that heavenly display along with carrier bloat would decimate the paltry battery juice) plus android 4.2 and we have a bonafide superstar.....now if HTC wants to step up its profits, the company should release this phone on ALL carriers: Verizon- Incredible X, Sprint- Evo HD, T-Mobile- Sensation HD, AT&T/International- One X 5 meanwhile i'll get this as a Nexus (preferably) or Incredible X (and rebuild my faith in this company) when it drops on american shores hopefully with removable battery so i could shop the extended battery market

  • Turb0wned

    What the Nexus should have been. Instead we get that LG crap!

  • http://nurudin.jauhari.net/ Jauhari

    Wow... 1080p? This is phenomenon....

  • Jamal Adam

    Oh Lawd Have Mercy!!

  • Jamal Adam

    I think that they battery needs improve because that 2020 mAh is just too small for such a power hitting device.

  • Michael Sheils

    Please let this be the fabled Nexus 5.

  • saftersen

    porbably have many minutes worth of battery life with such a screen.

  • Phreak

    I wish it would have a bigger battery. I bought my missus a Note 2 and the battery lasts well into the next day with moderate - heavy use. Put a bigger battery in this thing and I'm sure it will be a winner. Either way this may be my next phone. Who knows maybe theyll increase battery size when they release it elsewhere.

  • NemaCystX

    Please let the US variant, "DLX" have NFC.... other than that, its an absolutely gorgeous, stunning device. its like the prada bag of smart phones.

  • Rex_D

    The One X+ has only a 2100 mAh battery... this gives me doubts that HTC would be smart enough improve the battery on an American version of this phone were one announced.

  • http://twitter.com/CarlosFrancoZ Carlos Franco Z.

    "don't worry, your lust for more pixels than your eyes can physically appreciate will not go unfulfilled" lol