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Sep
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Have you heard?! Apple now says the Galaxy S III is infringing on its patents. Woe is us!

Except, this is a.) completely unsurprising, and b.) not really important in the grand scheme of things. Yesterday, Reuters reported that Apple had tacked on the Galaxy S III (including the Verizon version specifically, for whatever reason), the Note 10.1, and the original Galaxy Note to its upcoming California lawsuit against Samsung. And yes, they'll probably add the Galaxy Note II just as soon as Samsung gets around to releasing it here in the US.

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But, innovation! Thermonuclear war! The Galaxy S III was designed around avoiding Apple patents, right? Maybe its design patents, but that's not what is at issue here.

It's rather easy to get confused when Apple has two lawsuits going on in California against Samsung for patent infringement. The first one has reached a verdict, and is now headed to appeals-land for the next year or so. The second one, which is the one we're talking about here, hasn't even really started. It's extra-confusing because the same judge, Lucy Koh, is presiding.

The biggest news to come out of this second lawsuit was the preliminary injunction granted against the Galaxy Nexus. That ban was later stayed by an appellate court, and has remained unenforced since (it is still "under review").

But Google says Jelly Bean should solve "outstanding patent issues," right? Well, not really. As far as we're aware, the only "issues" Jelly Bean resolves are related to Apple's gesture-based tap-to-zoom patent. This would allow Samsung to avoid injunctions based on infringement of that patent (from the first lawsuit), but we've not heard about any of the others at play. Infringement of those will likely have to be resolved through OTA updates to Samsung's own software, not the core Android OS.

The second lawsuit, by comparison, has eight software patents at issue. Four of them are accused to be infringed by the Galaxy Nexus, meaning, you guessed it, Apple is going after the core Android operating system. The patents in play include old favorites, like the "data tapping" patent that saw HTC's launch plans for the One X and EVO 4G LTE in the US scuttled by an ITC injunction, resulting in significant release delays for both devices.

Another is the dreaded "unified search" patent (there are two of these - one for Siri and one that applies more generally), which has already resulted in Samsung removing the universal search functionality from all of its Galaxy S III devices in the US as a preemptive defense measure.

Also at issue are things like slide-to-unlock (yes, circular unlock is accused of infringing this), software keyboard word auto-completion, and a missed call management interface. None of the patents at issue relate to design.

The devices added to Apple's list of accused infringers today, though, are on top of 17 already listed. Why add them now? Because at the time Apple filed the lawsuit, none of these devices were available in the United States. The only real conclusion worth drawing here is that Samsung didn't avoid all of Apple's software patents in its latest iteration of TouchWiz.

As Florien Mueller at FOSS Patents correctly points out, the addition of these device is little more than a formality. Apple already attempted to accuse the Galaxy S III of infringing as part of the Galaxy Nexus injunction (though it rescinded this plea to speed up the injunction against the Nexus instead), and the Note and Note 10.1 both run substantially similar software to the GS3. There was no reason to think Apple wouldn't accuse these devices, and we already had evidence that strongly suggested (if not outright said) they would.

This doesn't change the issues in the case. It doesn't change the fact that, even without directly accusing the Galaxy S III of infringement, Apple could still have its importation banned as a product only "colorably different" from the named products in its preliminary injunction. That's why Samsung removed the unified search feature from the Galaxy S III - because the preliminary injunction against the Galaxy Nexus could have later been applied to the GS3 through a motion to the court, regardless of whether or not it was specifically named in the case.

The net result of this news? Nothing, really. Apple is still suing the pants off Samsung in this case for the same reasons it was last week, and the week before that, and the month before that. The action isn't even scheduled for trial until March 2014. You can pretty safely assume that, by then, most (if not all) of the issues we're talking about here will have already been resolved through tweaks, settlements, or the natural process of software obsolescence.

So, do yourself a favor, and remember that you're not the one getting sued here. Apple, Samsung, and Google clearly have some issues to work out, and they've got plenty of time to do it. After weeks of Samsung v. Apple: Round 1 up-to-the-minute coverage, I think we all need to take a step back and avoid turning an amended plea filing into an assault on our personal dignity.

David Ruddock
David's phone is whatever is currently sitting on his desk. He is an avid writer, and enjoys playing devil's advocate in editorials, and reviewing the latest phones and gadgets. He also doesn't usually write such boring sentences.

  • Iucidium

    Glad I don't live in America

    • tookieboy

      unfortunately their actions reverberate around the world.

      • Iucidium

        Nah - our courts know what 'prior art' is. What doesn't help is the Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt spread worldwide by the Kool-aid guzzling 'tech press'

        • Abhijeet Mishra

          The 'tech press' that believes that the US = the world? :P

          • Iucidium

            That's part of the problem, yes.

          • Abhijeet Mishra

            Hehe. Another side effect of this is that people say "Android doesn't get fast updates" While it is true in many cases, what people fail to understand is while international models get updates fast, it is the stupid carriers in the US that delay them, and then people seem to think that the problem exists on Android everywhere. US = world is a really big problem of the press.

          • http://twitter.com/arghness Alex

            Actually, I suspect that most carriers are similar. The UK certainly has similar update delays. Buying a standalone device separate from the contract is the only way to keep up with the manufacturers rollout schedule. The problem (compared to Apple, anyway) is that often the manufacturers don't update the devices for long either, although HTC and Samsung do seem to be improving.

          • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

            ...you mean. that there are other places

          • Abhijeet Mishra

            Yes, I've heard rumors of other places existing apart from the US. Not sure if they're true. ^^

        • Matteo Luigi Riso

          In Italy, as example, there's no jury formed by "common" people: is up to the Judge to tell the verdict and he must have to be supported by a technical person select among a list of independent professionals registered to the Court list of professionals.

          • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

            Smart!
            let people who UNDERSTAND decide!

            Italy - Pizza and Smart Court Ideas!

      • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

        no they don't. Companies will simply stop investing in America. innovation slows down as companies begin to squeeze $$$ from each line. only when comapanies can share innovation and ideas does the market move forward. litigation slows down this process.

    • George

      We don't have carrier phones in India ;-) And our judicial system is also screwed so no suing scenes are going to happen here, for once I am happy to be in this country

      • Abhijeet Mishra

        Hehe, I'd say our carriers are one of the best in the world since TRAI keeps them in check. Actually, with TRAI making such rules as "carriers should not be allowed to provide 3G to their users through other carriers in cities where they didn't get any spectrum", I think the telecom regulation authority is the one against the consumer (who must shift to a carrier who did get 3G services in their state) instead of the carrier :P

  • http://digg.com/users/OmegaWolf Silver Fang

    Android will win in the end due to its vast superiority. Let's see Apple sue them for that!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=775665643 Mark Coppock

    Well, Apple is suing Samsung, so they're not going after "core Android" in any meaningful sense. That is, a verdict in this lawsuit couldn't be applied to products manufactured by anyone else.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      Mmm, pretty sure you mean they're not going after it in the *literal* sense. What they're accusing is most definitely *meaningful* in terms of implications for the core Android operating system.

    • Alex Mawdsley

      They are going after core android. If they go after the Nexus, which doesn't have any overlays and is vanilla android, they are going after core android.

    • A.Noid

      Except they went after the Nexus, and that is pure Google. No Touch Wiz there. This is a shot at Google. Google themselves will have to do something about it. The design looks nothing like an iPhone, so its probably the OS itself.

      Check out Apple kills Star Trek;
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAtje5weAU0

      • Matthew Fry

        LOL! That video is hilarious. I don't know what you're talking about. It looks exactly like an iPhone. I mean it's got bezel... touchscreen... black... a front facing camera... operates on cell signal... is rectangular. I rest my case.

  • Dokidoki

    oh its the oracle/microsoft patents expert mr mueller again

  • Jean Maxime Pierre

    Seriously Apple, you sound desperate or you are trying to make the world to buy iphone only. i love your product but now im starting to think twice about buying your product now.

  • mesmorino

    I have never despised Apple as much as I do right now. Before it was just a mild dislike of the entity, now words cannot express how much I despise them

    • Carlito

      Couldn't agree more

      • SebaKL

        And I second that.

        • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

          you have my sword!

    • http://twitter.com/TeaRex13 Terrel Thompson

      i with you, we should all band together and... do something really bad to apple cause they're a bunch of a holes

      • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

        no no... just continue to support the brands you like and show the people you meet how Android has come of age and is a great platform. just bashing iOS/Apple makes you no better than them.

    • http://thedangerbrain.com/ Alfonso Surroca

      There's always next week, and the week after, and the one after that, and so on. They just keep getting worse.

  • nalab1

    Apple are complete tossers... Im glad Steve Jobs is dead...

    • http://twitter.com/signoralfie Alexander Burgos

      Shut your mouth, that's rude.

      • Tyler Bibeault

        I agree! That is quite rude.

      • Tito

        not rude. he speaks the truth. the guy was a narcissist, an ego maniac.
        his business model is now turning, and it's old news. it's gone with the times.
        back then it was futuristic... but when Apple cannot improve their products and rather litigate, it is what will happen. everyone will be tired of hearing about it.

        it's the second decade of the 21st century now.. all i've seen be done with the iPhone is the inclusion of a "notification center" and the so called iOS "Beta" releases. that's it. they've been playing catch up with Android, because Android brought more and more features as Google (responsibly) added to their product.

        I see to it that Steve Jobs sees from his grave... the company not only did he create, but helped in the past few years, once gave him the boot and is turning in their stomachs. to hell with that cliche of a company. they've only made it "#1" by putting high prices and ridiculously outdated equipment. and pity to the customer that falls for their "Marketing." it's not marketing. it's a f*cking lifestyle icon that never should have been given credibility, and I sure hope that for it's own sake all this litigation they are doing will help ruin their own image. :) because it has, and it still continues to.

        • HAB

          You are mixing up between "improving their product" and litigation. If you believe that we should all live by the laws of the land and abide by those laws, then you should accept the fact that if a company has patented a product, and those patents are protected by law, then that company has all the right to protect it's rights by litigation. This is not a matter of choosing one action over the other. Apple chose to continue it's product development, their R&D efforts and investments did not stop (even if you don't agree with their recent product enhancements) and at the same time chose to protect it's rights by exercising it's legal options which the law provides.
          Let us step back, set our emotions aside and be realistic for a moment: If any of us had invented something and patented it and generating an income from that invention, would any of us just sit silent and watch somebody else copy our invention, or will we try to exercise the full legal options which the law provides us? There might be those of us who want to share their inventions freely with others and be charitable, but there will also be those of us who want to protect it. In Apple's case, Apple is a profit making company, not a charity, so they chose to protect their inventions. Therefore be realistic in your judgement when Apple protects it's patents by litigations and don't confuse innovation with litigation.

  • Mārtiņš Belte

    *yawn*What else is new?

    Not sure if they can do that, but by this time, I'd start to ignore apple and when they do get loud enough to take our notice, I'd just say: "Ah, children."

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=714859472 Rajvir Singh

    How to Troll an Apple store
    Went into Apple store today and asked for an iPad 64 gb 3G version. When they brought it out and gave me the price, I whipped out my credit card to show them that I am ready to pay. Just before swiping the card, I stopped and asked if I could open the box and check it first? And they acknowledged and opened it for me...
    (Here comes the "TROLLING" part) I asked them where is the pen? "What pen?" The guy asked to which I replied The pen that comes with the tab that has a button and can be used for drawing on the screen and taking notes and stuff.
    With a bit of embarrassed look on his face the employee said "The iPad does not come with a stylus Sir, I think you have mistaken it to another tablet"
    I walked out after saying " My bad, I don't want it, Thanx"
    Moral : If Apple can troll Samsung in US courts and prove that consumers are "dumb" enough not to see the difference between an iPhone and an S2/S3, The consumers can act dumb and prove it that it can work the other way around as well...
    TIT FOR TAT

    • blast0id

      I thank you for doing this, they deserve 100,000+ people to do this to them daily for the next year with not one single day being missed... maybe they'd start to get the point...

    • selva

      Man..you made my day..! You are a hero..

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=714859472 Rajvir Singh

        I am no hero bro, I am just an consumer who is fed up of all this Vague patent bullcrap.

    • Johnathan Rodriguez

      Good job.

      You made a retail employee's life 1% harder. Way to stick it to the man.

    • matoz

      Excellent !!!

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      As much as I already know I'm getting downvoted into oblivion for saying this, I'm going to say it: grow up.

      If your idea of using your time productively is going into an Apple store and trolling a bunch of slightly-above-minimum wage 20-something retail peons with absolutely no relation to these legal proceedings or Apple's IP policy, I feel bad for you. I really do. You have somehow concluded that it is worth the time, effort, and embarrassment to go do this act, and that is sad. Did Apple products ever do anything to you? Did they cause you some personal harm? Did Tim Cook spit on your mother's grave?

      If so, go right ahead. But something tells me that A.) you don't even have the balls to do this, and B.) that, sadly, you actually believe this might accomplish something, if you did actually have the guts to do it. I have never been so ashamed of the "community" as in the days following last week's trial. Such internet-mob hate mentality turns my stomach.

      • Rob

        Wow, did anyone even pay attention to this post? For what it's worth - I agree with you David. I also gave you and UP-vote on this post. LOL. Unfortunately our community members have such vehement pride in Android and this serves as a platform for hating on Apple when they do just about anything. Apple is Apple in my opinion, just another company looking out for its intellectual property. They had the forethought to patent a lot of stuff apparently and now they're leveraging it to their advantage. The flaw here is not with Apple, but rather with the U.S. patent system that allows a company to patent a 'rectangle with rounded corners' or a 'tap-to-zoom' gesture without consideration that some of this stuff belongs in the arena of open-source multi-platform technology rather than in the coffers of just one technology empire. Apple is wait it is today because Steve Jobs "collected" ideas from the nascent personal computer industry as it was getting started. I own Apple and Android products and I keep hoping for a day when we can all peacefully co-exist. ;)

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=714859472 Rajvir Singh

        "Did Tim cook spit on my mother's Grave"?
        You went too far there MOFO, TOO FAR!!
        Before you start acting like "An Adult" that tell others to grow up, try taking your own advice..
        Was it worth my time? Yes, It was my Day off and I was Shopping around in the city with my gf when I came across the store.. Effort? YES... Embarassed? Don't think so..
        Which idiot let an insensitive D-Head like you to be a Mod on an successful tech site like this?
        "I don't know what to say to you" If you don't know what to say, then JUST IGNORE IT AND STFU! You can call me an idiot, Fine. A child, ok. But never EVER mention anything about my or anyone else's Mother, I would fire you if I was the Admin of AP for making it SO UNPROFESSIONAL..

        • http://twitter.com/LV2355 Laurentiu

          Grow up!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=714859472 Rajvir Singh

            Tell me more!?

        • Johnathan Rodriguez

          You still get offended by people talking about your mother? People on the internet, no less? Man, you really do need to grow up.

      • PINJ

        Thank You. You See Android Police Ppl. I. AM. NOT. THE. ONLY. ONE. :D BIATCHES!!!

      • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

        both parties are equally guilty dude. there's no high ground for either party.

      • Concerned reader.

        Dissociate from this Mod, demote him and then let him go. He knows nothing about being a Mod, as he engages in using the kind of damaging words he did in this post. He also doesn't know how not to analyze issues and lets his political inclination spill through his posts. His post lessens my respect for the website. Perception is everything.

      • Simon Belmont

        I agree in part. Though, I think the embellishment with Tim Cook spitting on peoples' graves is a bit much.

        All the OP accomplishes by doing this is make Android users look like childish pranksters, which is exactly what the Apple fans want to jeer at us about. I say that as a long time Android fan (back to 2009 generation phones - HTC Hero) who owns and loves every single Android device he's had and will continue to do so.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benmarvin Ben Marvin

      If everyone started doing that, how long before Apple starts using the incidents as evidence in court?

      • http://thedangerbrain.com/ Alfonso Surroca

        That, or they would begrudgingly start selling an iPad Note with a pen stylus, and then sue Samsung because the Galaxy Note 10.1 has a pen stylus.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=714859472 Rajvir Singh

        Apple's point in "Lost devices sales" was people bought Galaxy phones thinking they were iPhones.. I wanted to present the idea that Samsung can also use Apple's IDEOLOGY and say there might be people that bought an iPhone thinking it was an galaxy phone..

        • HAB

          Rajvir, your plan "might" have worked if you hadn't went public and wrote about what you did. The fact that you wrote about your intentional & willful return of the iPad knowing very well it is not a galaxy, you actually provided Apple with evidence to counter claim Samsung if ever Samsung decide to use such a tactic. I'm sure Apple's legal team will be able to dig up such posts to cast doubt in any judge's or juror's mind of how genuine Samsung claims are.
          As I said in my earlier post, the only thing your actions proved is " your intellectual capability ".

          • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

            chill out, its a bit of fun...

          • MicroNix

            You have to purchase it to return it genius. He never paid for it, therefore it was never "returned". Unlike how Apple said people actually paid for a Samsung device and returned it because they thought it was an Apple product (like that would ever happen).

    • Owen Finn

      I would have preferred setting it on fire...

      • John O’Connor

        The "geniuses" may set themselves on fire if you walked into to the apple store and said that you were having problems with your iDevice and it turned out to be a samsung phone. Better yet, have an iphone loaded with android on it and complain that you can't get into the app store

    • HAB

      The only thing you & those who commented supporting you're "heroic" action did is proved to the general public who are reading this site how pathetic and naive you are for wasting a salesman's time. I wish the android community all the best to have supporters with your intellectual capability.
      On another note, which electronic store would have let you walk out without buying the device after you clearly saw the live devices displayed without a pen and expressed your clear intention to buy the device and asked the sales person to open the box for you ? It's only few companies like Apple who provide that level of customer focus and satisfaction and those companies have to protect their competencies with patents and regulations.
      To summaries, all that you proved with your actions is your intellectual capability and proved to the readers of this site the high level of customer satisfaction Apple stores provide.

      • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

        ... does posting this sort of thing make you happy?

      • ElfirBFG

        Wasting a salesperson's time? That makes me laugh. One cannot waste a salesperson's time when they are on the clock. I'm sure the "Genii" that Apple employs have their -precious- time wasted by 'legimate' issues on a regular basis, ie.) How do I turn AirPort back on omigodomigod I can't use tumblr! HALP! Unless Apple Store workers are completely without a sense of humour, I would think this would be a highlight(see: good anecdote) of what I would imagine a mundane/routine workday.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vladimir-Griga/100002164648011 Vladimir Griga

      +1 Bro'. Cheers !

  • Erik Cho

    This is just becoming absolutely ridiculous. Reading about all this going on really just leaves you with no words and a bitter taste in your mouth. I mean how and why would Apple be taking things quite this far? Don't they realize they're ultimately just shooting themselves in the foot for the future? What do they think is going to happen when they try to branch out from just one device. Seriously!

    I know there's been talk recently about how we should focus more on the positives of Android and give up on this whole #boycottapple business, but... really... wow I'm just fuming right now. Next round of legal stuff is taking place in California? I'm tempted to go protest outside the court house!

    • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

      Apple Patent #1029458 - protesting outside of a court house to prevent proceedings from going ahead.

      • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

        I think they invented protesting... and bread.

        • Erik Cho

          So we're in a similar situation at just about every corner then. They "invented" it and we perfected it and are getting hit with the legal mumbo jumbo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1712821667 Andrei Poenaru

    I really like the way David concludes the article. I've seen a lot of people throwing the worst words they could get out at Apple / Samsung after the decision last week, and it leaves me wondering 'Why?'. Ok, maybe the guys actually infringed, or maybe the other ones got lucky and earned some money, I'm by no means an expert nor do I know at least half of what it takes to decide who's right and who's not, but I honestly doubt this patent fight is ever going to end with some unbelivebaly huge result. They are going to sue each-other, and of course a judge will have to say one of the sides is right, but I think it's unlikely that we see a big change in Android or Android-powered devices following a decision. It might be, in the end, just like the article the other day states, only a marketing move, but either way, if you like Samsung (or any other manufacturer, for that matter), go buy a device, and it's fine to be proud of your choice, but you don't actually need to hate every person who doesn't buy the same brand you do, you know? Just use some common sense, after all, it's just like the article says - "you're not the one getting sued here". Kudos for a great article again, Mr. Ruddock!

  • Andy

    Law firm Apple hard at work I see.

    • Abhijeet Mishra

      At least some part of Apple is hard at work! First it was the time of the R&D department, they got tired a couple of years ago, now the work has been shifted to the law department :P

  • http://twitter.com/jishnu7 Jishnu

    If am correct, the new unlock method in Jelly Bean is a work around on Apple's patent.
    Apple's patent says, sliding one image to another. Yeah ICS and below comes under this. But in JB, we are not sliding any image.

    • http://twitter.com/arghness Alex

      Galaxy S3 on ICS doesn't slide an image either. You just swipe anywhere to unlock, and it leaves ripples. When activating a camera / reading a message from the lockscreen, you start your swipe from the image, but the image doesn't move.

  • David Parry

    Has google not done unified search for many years on the desktop which has an OS like these new smart phones have OS and is it not obvious that when you search it would be the entire phone.

    • Abhijeet Mishra

      I used Unified Search on my Symbian phone back in 2008, not sure if Apple had patented it then. Really stupid to be suing on that though either way.

  • tehjoker

    Wonder when Samsung is going to go after apples "late" devices... oh look iPad 2 with... wait for it... -LTE-! Its time to start dicing the apple Sammy!

    • Robert Hicks

      Not just yet. Wait until the iphone has LTE then smack them down. The iphone is a bigger money maker for them over the ipad. Having the iphone 5 announced then getting a injunction for both devices is going to hit apple harder.

  • celestre

    Why does Android Police and the mainstream media still link to that shill Florian Mueller after he was outed as a secret paid consultant by the companies he was supposedly covering as a journalist? The link here added nothing to the article.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Florian Mueller may consult for Microsoft and Oracle, but he provides great coverage of things related to law that others don't (or discover later), and we use him for discovering facts, then draw our own conclusions.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      Because, unlike people who decide someone is a "shill" for disclosing that they are paid by companies that might have an interest in their reporting, we're able to parse opinion from good journalism. Florien Mueller is a good journalist, even if I don't agree with him sometimes, I respect him. To call him a "shill" is undeserved. He has his views, we have ours, that doesn't mean we can't agree sometimes, or source some of his very well-researched articles.

      Do you discount MSNBC when they break a story about a Republican presidential candidate because you consider them democratic "shills," even if the story is completely true? Of course not.

      • celestre

        No, because MSNBC doesn't take money secretly from the Democratic candidate while repeatedly slamming the Republicans for months before deciding it's time to finally reveal they've been on the take. It's just basic journalism ethics, and I'm a little shocked you don't seem to understand that.

        • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

          burn!

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

          I'll admit the analogy is flawed. I just get tired of the same comment reworked literally every single time we link to FOSS, with no argument other than he's "biased" or a "shill." As Artem said, he is an invaluable source of legal information in this area, and pretending he doesn't exist would do a disservice to our readers. I linked to him here because he provided what I believe was a well-reasoned analysis (with lots of hard facts) of the story Reuters broke. If you want to disagree with the conclusions of that piece, that is your right. I will not simply ignore one of the most thorough reporters on the mobile patent wars simply because he left a bad taste in the community's mouth during the Oracle trial. I think he was clearly wrong in his analysis of that trial once it had ended, and I don't doubt his ties to Oracle's payroll department guided some of that analysis. I think to discount any and everything he says, though, is unwise. I hope this provides you a more full answer as to my reasoning, and I apologize if you were offended by anything I said.

  • http://twitter.com/sneakily1 Sneaks

    This just makes me want MORE Samsung products, I hope the douchebags at Apple try to sue every company to bring even more awareness to how BADASS Android is compared to their stupid IOS! Screw Apple and their crap, over-priced BS phones/tablets. That's right Apple, keep trolling innovation and eventually all your iDork fanboys will see the light, and turn on you... Mission Accomplished!

  • rafalee

    its hard to hate a company but Apple has earned it! f u Apple and ur stollen inivations!!!!!

  • Kurt Wurmser

    I agree with the fact that we shouldn't worry too much. Ultimately, Apple can't get what it really wants, which is a world where they are in an unassailable position. It won't happen. Android is open to any manufacturer. Over time, what happened 20 years ago with PC's will happen in mobile. It is happening. It has happened, to some extent (Android is, after all, the leading OS in mobile today -- iOS never cracked more than a third.

    It's true Apple won big once in court. That's not over. The appeals court may reduce that amount or throw it out entirely. (Microsoft used to have a very good track record in the court of appeals.) In other courts they've lost.

    They can hurt Samsung, sure, but they can't kill off Android, any more than Microsoft (or, um, Apple) could kill off Linux. There will always be some company, somewhere, who will happily manufacture Android phones.

    This is going to sound completely crazy, I'm sure, but the bigger long-term threat to Android would be Windows Phone. Microsoft made a fortune licensing Windows to PC's; if they manage to get enough market share to keep breathing and get developers writing for their OS, five years from now we might be griping about them.

  • UniBroW

    In regards to the other article, I believe the SGS III is far from "ugly." Honestly, I think it's the best looking smart phone their currently is. /shrug

  • http://www.facebook.com/brad.kalinoski Brad Kalinoski

    Hey APPLE patent lawyers and trolls. Im sick of you and your bullying and attempt to skew the system to be once again, a monopoly. All I want to say is 621311 251521

  • nalab1

    Oh.. And Steve Jobs STOLE the "look and feel" of the operating system for the original crapple lisa from Rank Xerox Parc...

  • mohannad

    Man this is shit they said that the S2 & S look like their stupid iphone we said : ok maybe it looks abit like it. But the s3 has nothing to do with it in any way . And the keyboard auto complete and tap to zoom are obvious things. It looks like in US you could license anything and say its yours. This suing is becoming stupid

    • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

      Apple Patent #17450 - Filing a patent for a product you didn't invent so that you can claim yourself as the inventor at a later date.

  • James Wadden

    Well since you guys are telling your stories, I have one too. One of my best friends, I mean one of the longest friends I've had. I've known him for 22 of my 30 years.
    Long story short, he was a pure apple fan boy, and I mean pure apple all the way. Lets just say I got on his back, big time, and showed him all the stuff that is going on right now between apple and samsung; which he knew nothing about, well... he now owns a Galaxy GS3, and his ipad is online for sale. He loves it too. So Do I, wish I had one. :(

    • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

      good lad!

  • squiddy20

    "Also at issue are things like... software keyboard word auto-completion"
    I don't even know about this patent in general, let alone the specifics, but if it's what I'm interpreting it to be, why isn't Swiftkey, Swipe, SmartKeyboard, and the other boatload of replacement keyboard apps getting the pants sued off of them too?

    • DCMAKER

      i am pretty sure my moto razr had auto complete......

      • DCMAKER

        and black berries

        • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

          and jesus.

          • http://www.Mikereviews.co.uk/ Mike Brown

            feeding of the five thousand. couple of fish and bread ...*autocomplete* couple of *thousand* fish and bread

  • Asphyx

    In other news Apple has brought suit against a Three Year old for infringing it's patent on picking your nose and eating it....Film at 11!

  • Errol

    I have an iphone 4, I was waiting for the iphone 5 but aside from the waiting, waiting & more waiting, I don't think any of the changes / innovations are going to make a great difference because it's still a small phone.
    I got myself a Galaxy s3 then I rediscovered "Bluetooth"(ing) to friends who's phones were a different make to mine. The Galaxy has a larger screen, memory expansion (SD) card slot, even use a USB directly connected to the phone, you can drag and drop music or films on to memory card. I am discovering tons of neat stuff the galaxy does every day, but as usual the iphone will do something's better and in a few months another must have phone will be making the news.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Murillo/100000812220902 Ricardo Murillo

    Apple sucks, i love my Slll.

  • Alex

    In my opinion, Apple just feels threatened because Samsung has a superior product

    • TristanPR77

      exactly, that is all the problem here. apple cannot compete with a better product, their last hope? this ridiculous litigation.

  • Chnng

    Like David said ...don't take it personal. Besides, I'm sure if we were working in Apple Cupertino office (and pls I know many peeps wish they do), we won't be hating on the company. One thing we should be proud about as Americans is our judicial system. Let Apple sue, if they win or lose, I don't care. It won't make me hate or like Samsung or Apple any more or less. I'm just after a good product that I will cherish.
    From the way this article was written, one would think it was prepared by an Apple fanboy. I like David's articles and he has just shown he's unbiased and that's how a good journalist should be: give the news as is.
    Keep up the good work.

    • DCMAKER

      i am not proud of our American judicial system....it is a joke. I can come up with many frivolous lawsuits that have been won over the years that have made our system an utter joke

    • FrillArtist

      Wow. Could you be any more of a stupid sheep?

  • http://tech-trip.com/ Tech-Trip

    Apple is such a fucking drama queen ever since Steve Jobs' death...

  • TristanPR77

    by the time this case take place, samsung will sell millions of galaxy s3, the problem will be fixed with an update and the galaxy s4 will be atound the corner. Apple simply cant compete with a better product, they are desperate and focused in rather litigate samsung but they will not be able to stop samsung.

  • http://thedangerbrain.com/ Alfonso Surroca

    Why don't they include the Galaxy S IV, V, and VI while they're at it? It's obvious at this point that Apple's going to include pretty much any new device Samsung comes out with regardless of how they try to tip-toe around Apple's patents.

  • PINJ

    SUE SUE SUE.
    Who's Sue?

  • CeluGeek

    I think David Ruddock really missed the point of this story, a point better (though still not directly expressed) by @Rajvir Singh and his Apple store trolling:

    By Apple including the Galaxy S III and the Galaxy Note in their lawsuits, Apple has really shown its true colors. Not only are they not willing to give consumers choices in form factors, but they are willing to sue out of the market anybody who does give us those choices. Apple has trully surpassed Microsoft's levels of corporate bullying!

    And since Apple also included the Epic 4G and the Captivate Glide (my smartphone of choice) in their stupid litigations, I'd like to go into an Apple Store and buy that iPhone with a sliding QWERTY keyboard that the Epic 4G and Captivate Glide are copying.

    • Matthew Fry

      Agree! The whole case stinks of cronyism.

  • Simon Belmont

    Man. I think it's sad that we've gotten to a point where Apple suing to ad nauseum is just accepted as normal and not surprising.

    I miss those halcyon days when we'd only hear about an infringement case every once in a while. Now we hear about them almost daily.

  • shadowtekwz

    I've read most of the comments and yea ! I think it will all comes down to 'Personal Preferences' .

  • http://www.facebook.com/la.harrison.3 LA Harrison

    The Samsung Galaxy S3 that Apple is looking at, is the one on the
    Verizon network specifically. I think Apple is scared! You see, Verizon
    has the biggest LTE network, and the Galaxy S3 performs perfectly on
    that network. Also, iPhone 5 is rumored to have possibly the LTE chip in
    it. And Apple wants Verizon to carry their iPhone 5. Direct
    competition! And it is said that Samsung has some patent with LTE, and
    would sue iPhone (IF) they have that chip in their phones. Do you see
    the big picture??? Why didn't Apple sue Samsung years ago for their
    phones??? and are suing them now? It all comes together. Samsung is
    making phones that are better than Apple and that have LTE in them. And
    this is causing problems for Apple. Steve Jobs did not go out of his way
    to sue Samsung period. All this is a power trip for the man who is in
    charge now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vittorio.maric Vittorio Maric

    Although I said this many tines recently ill said it again, I'm never ever buying a apple product. I'll never support a company that does crap like this.

    We all know ios stole a bunch of features from android and you don't see google crying about it.

    Time to open a jail breaking store and pirate apps for customers.

  • grellanl

    Meh. Perhaps some go too far, but I'm not a fan of being told what (not) to care about. If things go on as they have been, then decades of inventions, which belong to all of us and should be serving as the foundation for the next generation of innovation, will have been stolen for the benefit of one greedy corporation. And I think that's something to be upset about.

  • Cassini

    I might be wrong (it wouldn't be the first time) but isn't most of the hardware in the iphone made by Samsung? In which case Apple might want to tread carefully.

  • Jonny951

    I bought my phone because I wanted to not because I thought it was an iphone. You gotta be pretty stupid to confuse a GS3 with an iphone. I didn't want an iphone be cause I have big hands and the iphone was far too little so until they make a phone that can accommodate me I'm not buying and guess what that'll be never haha

  • spydie

    What idiots... anyone with an IQ of at least 50 can see the humor in this, even if it was a story and not a true story. Anyone that didn't find humor in this, has a lower than 50 IQ

  • Franky

    What a Koh-incidence.
    Sory, couldn't resist.

  • SenseOffender

    The US government sends their army around the world, in the process killing innocents, in the name of giving people freedom.

    Apple hires lawyers around the world to try and destroy companies who pose a threat to their sales in order to take away people's freedom of choice at the checkout.

    I am not going to bash the whole USA, I have plenty family there and don't mind visiting, but the politics they adopt is strange to say the least... Which is it, freedom or non-freedom?

  • jaysann22

    That is all.....

  • Matthew Fry

    Now this is ridiculous. Text completion on a software keyboard? I'm pretty sure I had that on my Windows Mobile 2003 phone before Apple even dreamed of thinking of doing a phone. Good golly. Is Apple trying to alienate anyone with a brain?

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