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Aug
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The verdict in the Apple-Samsung legal battle came in much sooner than expected and the news hasn't been good for Samsung. To pull out one of the most relevant details amid all the patents and trade dress claims, the jury has ordered Samsung to pay Apple $1.05 billion in damages. Yikes.

Update: The jury was asked to reconsider Question 4 of the verdict form. After deliberating, the jury's answer was changed to "no" for the Intercept and one other device, and the damages amount officially changed to $1,049,343,540.

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Apple was originally seeking an award of $2.45 billion from Samsung, but few thought it would get even remotely that much. However, even $1.05 billion is a very high number for damages. Many of Apple's patent and trade dress claims were found to be valid, and Samsung was ruled to have willfully infringed upon them in multiple cases.

With all of Apple's patents intact, and many Samsung phones apparently at fault, Samsung's legal team just had a really bad start to their weekend.

[The Verge Live]

Ryan Whitwam
Ryan is a tech/science writer, skeptic, lover of all things electronic, and Android fan. In his spare time he reads golden-age sci-fi and sleeps, but rarely at the same time. His wife tolerates him as few would.

  • http://twitter.com/zachvossdesign zach voss

    At least the galaxy nexus wasn't banned.

    • aNYthing6

      That trial is coming up later. Galaxy Nexus wasn't included in this one.

  • Darrell V.

    Fucking bullshit.

  • serotheo

    1.05, you meant 1.05.. right o.o

  • aNYthing6

    $1.05 billion isn't much to Samsung in the long run. It's a huge conglomerate. What's huge is what the jury has asserted -- that pinch to zoom and tap to zoom are legit patents. I'm scared for the future of smartphones.

    • Bariman43

      There is no future. There is only Apple. Good game... RIP smartphone industry.

    • VegasDude73

      And that's what makes this result such a farce. The patents weren't on trial, the infringement was though. Is it really infringement if the patent is ridiculous? apparently yes.

  • Guest

    I found an upside. Whatever Samsung develops now isn't going to look like an iPhone. which means it's not going to look like a piece of shit.

    • Tommy Thompson

      S3?

    • guest

      Out of touch much?

    • http://stonesoupstation.blogspot.com Steven

      doubt that, don't underestimate the ingenuity of those who're pressed to design something better.

  • fodawim

    In other breaking news, supply of pennies are rather low after $1.05 Billion dollars worth of pennies were retrieved from a entity only identifying himself as "Samsung Troll".

    • John O’Connor

      And here is what one billion pennies looks like

      http://www.kokogiak.com/megapenny/nine.asp

      time to load the penny buses and airdrop them through the skylights of the new Apple campus. Now that would be what I call "Injunctive Relief" or "Karma Aid"

      • https://twitter.com/#!/doomstang Doomstang

        and those
        1,000,018,176 pennies are only worth
        $10,000,181.76

        • John O’Connor

          I stand corrected. wrong link. Editing

    • http://www.facebook.com/andresdroid Andres Schmois

      Oh this would be great...

  • jammer

    1.05 not 10.5

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Indeed, Ryan typoed at the end there.

  • Thomas Li

    1.05B, not 10.5B :)

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Typoed.

  • John O’Connor

    Well if Apple can assert validity on pinch to zoom and bounce, I'm sure they will be raked through the coals when Googlerola is done with them.

    • aNYthing6

      I certainly hope so. This is going to get really messy.

    • Bariman43

      I despise patent lawsuits. However, just this once though, I want Google to tear Crapple to shreds.

    • Will

      Oh GOD! I truly hope Googlerola simple destroy them

  • michael

    typo in article you said 10.5 billion second time

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      All fixed already, thanks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alexslx Alexandre Leites

    And now Google?

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    Worst TGIF for Samsung EVER.

    • John O’Connor

      Certainly, but a drop in the bucket for what Apple wanted. Now I await the next lawsuit

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        How's a sweeping victory and one out of 2.5bln a drop in the bucket?

        • John O’Connor

          Artem, I certainly agree. The larger ramification is the patent precedence set here. But with such flimsy patents (winning) to begin with, this can only set the stage for Mutually Assured Destruction in the smartphone industry when suits are filed by various OEMs for patents that are not as general as the ones used by apple here

      • Simon Belmont

        It's still a lot. It's a quarter of what Samsung made in 2011.

        It's not an insignificant amount. Frankly, it's not about the money, it's that broad patents had been granted and then enforced.

    • fixxmyhead

      It sucks but its my b day today so I'm happy. Plus all the ahem.... things later with the wife ;)

  • Michael

    It'll be interesting to see how Google responds to this. Maybe they will finally wage war on Apple!

    • John O’Connor

      Already started

  • http://rilgon.tumblr.com/ Rilgon Arcsinh

    Remind me why, again, Apple is the only US corporation seemingly immune to prior art laws? My Windows Mobile phones were doing the shit cited as "patented" (one finger scroll, tap to zoom, slide to unlock, etc.) before the patent filing dates.

    • Bariman43

      A fair lawsuit? In MY US law system? Impossible!

    • John O’Connor

      Apple and Microsoft now have a cozy non-compete relationship. It was revealed in this trial a little over a week ago

      • http://rilgon.tumblr.com/ Rilgon Arcsinh

        Well yes, but shouldn't the presence of the technology *before filing date* invalidate the patent? (Or, more accurately, shouldn't it if the USPO had more than 15 minutes per filing to review a case)

        • John O’Connor

          We can have only have "Hope" for REAL patent reform. Ask Obama

          • DCMAKER

            Obama is a tard.....he has ruined this country by blatantly ignoring the Constitution and Congress and abusing powers he does not have....that is called a tyrant....shit newbs.

          • John O’Connor

            Clearly you did not recognize my jab at Obama. As is that was his platform motto and look how crappy the country has turned out.

          • DCMAKER

            oh my bad....it sounded like you were serious :)

          • You SUck

            just shows how dumb you Anti_Obama people actually are. F*tard.

          • mma173

            It's not about the president. Whoever he is, doesn't matter. It's just a new face with the same policy-- the policy that is being run by the shadow government.

        • mma173

          The patent system is broken [Full Stop] or [Period].

    • Dwayne_Chapman

      If a patent wasn't granted for the specific way your Windows Mobile phones did it then guess what...it doesn't matter.

  • Kaz

    Sorry, but I hope Steve Jobs rots :n Hell

    • Bariman43

      That's too much, The most I'd do is break his teeth because there's a good chance he's wearing a shit-eating grin.

      • John O’Connor

        I could think of another punishment for that shit-eating grin... And it is at the long end of Hell's Human centipede

        • DCMAKER

          hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahah

    • sammy

      dont worry, he is rotting in hell

  • Xavier Davis

    I hope the samsung team verified the smartphones of the juries

  • James

    Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. I fully expect this to be appealed -- this seems like way too big of a case for it not to be -- and sincerely hope that Samsung wins on appeal.

  • IncCo

    Time to destroy crApple before it kills all innovation.

    • Bariman43

      Too late. This is it, innovation is dead.

    • Dwayne_Chapman

      Copying is not innovation.

      • IncCo

        Tell that to crapple

      • John O’Connor

        Silly rabbit, you can't use the "i" word. Clearly they patented "iNnovation" expect an apple swat team to be banging down your doors looking for their iPhone 7 prototype that they embedded in your colon. {LOL, sarcasm} just had too

  • Zinnel C.

    The Apple will have more damage in the process with Google / Motorola.
    The money she earned in this process will not enough to pay the damage that the ban of the iPhone and iPad in the U.S. market will have.

    Soon the Apple will feel what is the truly damage.
    I expect a very heavy sentence on Apple from Google / Motorola case.

    • Ricardo Moura Rocha

      I hope you're right, but I have a rotten feeling that Apple is in bed with the patents office and the legal system in the US.... How else can they get the kind of patents they do when they didn't invent basically ANYTHING they patent...

  • http://www.facebook.com/stevebachman1 Steve Bachman

    This may not be a "lot" of money for Samsung. And, in relationship to their total earnings, it's not. What this HAS done is set a precedent for future lawsuits and set the mark. This is the part that is very bad. Not the dollar amount. Apple is laughing as they are victorious in their stakes and claims. It's not about the money for them. They have PLENTY of that!

  • http://www.facebook.com/RobJohnson90 Rob Johnson

    Awww, poor Samsung. LOL!

  • Owen Finn

    Time to go out and destroy a few Apple stores in retaliation, no?

  • http://twitter.com/Dr_MBambi Moaz Bambi

    Samsung: "Holy shit, where's Harvey Specter when you need him!"

    • John O’Connor

      I think Jessica made him sit this one out

    • FrillArtist

      Even Harvey Specter wouldn't be able to save Samsung from the crApple biased court system. Lucy Koh is well bought out. What a dope.

  • John O’Connor

    5pm PST. and there are 2 discrepancies. Samsung may be able to reduce their fine by 2.2million?

    • John O’Connor

      gotta love this:

      5:24:58 PM PDT "So, just to be clear, when faced with 700 decisions the jury was good to go. But when faced with two decisions, they need some guidance."

  • justflo

    Apple realy sucks big time !!i'm from the netherlands i hate apple so mutch !!! Apple is destroying the smartphone industry and the judges in the USA are suck the balls of apple !!!! The do .... we can say this because we have freedom of expression !! I find apple one big criminal organisation that's how i think about apple

  • Simon Belmont

    Not sure how 100+ pages of documentation and a 20 page questionaire only took 3 days to process. The verdict was reached REALLY fast.

    Sheesh. I was expecting some compensation for Samsung.

    • John O’Connor

      If we would like to create a web based dramedy on the whole affair, I would say the premise of the plot would be jury tampering.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1106303560 Mark Boyle

    Hopefully Google will protect it's android manufacturers with getting the patents they need.

  • John O’Connor

    I won't even entertain all of the things that are wrong with your overreaching bullshit remarks, patently offensive suppositions and ignorant and inflammatory assumptions. For the record I do not support the other other side of the same coin, Romney, either. You sir are no better then the politicians that keep the country in this mess. Go back to whatever bridge you crawled out from under, you miserable troll.

  • Mo

    WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

  • Fozziwig

    I assume this decision is not binding outside the USA? Which means the bulk of Android's marketpalce is not affected (in fact, Apple is losing these same arguments pretty much everywhere else).

    Are the best-selling Galaxy S3 and Note series sufficiently different to be excluded from a product injunction? These products were not specifically named in this trial.

    Finally, Apple have (as they always have) isolated themselves in the industry meaning some very powerful businesses (actually, all the ones that are not Apple) will be less likely to work with Apple and more likely to work against them.

    As Churchill once said: "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.ng.330 Phil Ng

    i not supporting either one. but how does rectangular shape with rounded edge is considered innovative that can be patent. america patent is a laughing stock.

  • http://www.facebook.com/reggiedc1999 Jan Reggie Dela Cruz

    They sued Samsung because they're just Apple. What they only want is money, and if they ran out, they're just gonna sue another company.

    Jobs must be rotting in hell by now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=507973810 Martin Cataldi-Rogers

    i dont see an issue most are older phones , and devices which people will be upgrading in the next few months , i don't think you can stop the devices being sold on the secondary market i.e eBay , i've heard story's of apple people switching to Samsung just because its so close to apple but so much cheaper (that's a Samsung win in the long term), and googles patent war with apple coming up soon , could be bad for apple also , plus now everyone knows the inside and outs of how apple does things ... thanks apple

  • Fake android

    No more samsung no more android ...world rejoice