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When Google unveiled the Nexus Q at I/O on Wednesday, there were cheers. But not until the designers and creators of the hardware came on stage to explain what it was for a good 5 minutes. Hell, they even put together a fantastic video showing the process of manufacturing the Q (in the good 'ol US of A!). Seriously, if you haven't watched it - watch it. The production values are outstanding.

And Google topped it all off by giving everybody at I/O a Q to... do stuff with. But what?

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The Q is fairly limited in its capabilities at the moment. It can play back Google Music, Movies, TV, and YouTube - but it can only stream them. There's no support for Wi-Fi direct local playback from your Android device or other media storage facility. And the video playback isn't even very good - early reports suggest that 720p ("HD" on Movies / YouTube) content isn't being properly optimized for television playback, and even stuttering. Yikes. Then again, this is technically still a beta device, with beta software. But it won't be beta in 2 weeks.

But let's say, for the sake of argument, all the Q's launch features worked perfectly. Smooth, silky 720p video, an ideal music playback app on Android for the Q's "social playlist" feature (read: it currently sucks), and an amazing YouTube app for Jelly Bean (read: adequate at best). Would you pay $300 for it? I'm guessing the answer is somewhere between "probably not" and "not unless it came with $200 in the box." So what in the hell was Google thinking here?

Option A: They Weren't Thinking, And The Q Is Just A Really, Really Bad Idea

If Google never intends for the Q to do a lot more than it does now, it is a monumentally stupid product to start with. $300 to stream Google Movies / Music / YouTube to your TV? Wow, if only there was other hardware on the market with similar capabilities that was also better in almost every conceivable way. Xbox? Apple TV? I'm pretty sure even Roku has the Q beat in this regard. And they all have something in common: they're a lot cheaper. Like, a lot a lot. You can buy a 4GB Xbox for $200, an Apple TV for $100, and a Roku for $50. For $50 more than a Nexus Q, you could have all three (I don't know why you would, but you could). That should put things into perspective here.

Even if the Q eventually supports games or device-based video and music (eg, AirPlay) for local files, it will never live up to its much more all-in-one foes. If Apple TV hasn't been able to make a real dent in the marketplace, the Nexus Q isn't even going to scratch it. And let's not forget that Google TV basically ensures that this will never happen, unless Google decides to merge the two products into one (not likely).

If this were truly the Q's role to play, I'd deeply question Google's understanding of the consumer electronics market. But the fact is, I don't think even occasionally-out-of-touch Google misunderstands the market that much. Is it possible this was some pet project that got out of hand and Google will very soon realize they wasted a lot of time and money? Maybe, but I think that's a minute possibility. I think (and frankly, hope) greater things are afoot here, and I think Google is playing its cards very close to the vest.

Option B: Google Knows Something We Don't

If Option A were the reality, I'd call it now - the Q will be a complete and utter failure. But there's a reason they gave everyone at I/O a Q. And it's not just because Google's nice. Think about it - right now, the Q is basically a black box. It has been semi-hacked to at least run (but not play) games, and it has a microUSB port (for hacky things, presumably), but we really don't know very much about what's going on inside.

We know it has the same TI OMAP4460 chipset found in the Galaxy Nexus, some amount of flash storage, a decent discrete audio amplifier, and all the other pieces necessary for the Q to hook up to its various media and connectivity sources. We also know it runs some sort of heavily-modified version of Android 4.0.

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Remember Android@home? Remember how it never, you know, happened? We learned on Wednesday that it's now Google Play@Home. But that just entails the features Google outlined for the Q at launch. For the moment. We've heard rumblings that the Q actually contains something called a ZigBee low-power Wi-Fi chip, which is used in smart appliances and lighting (like the Peel smart remote and Nest thermostat). And we know TI makes ZigBee chips, so it wouldn't be terribly difficult to get one.

The reality is that Google is almost certainly still working on the vision it had with Android@home. Streaming music and movies are step one. If the Nexus Q is indeed a ZigBee device, it's probably what's known as a ZigBee coordinator - a central hub on the ZigBee network which other ZigBee devices connect, authenticate, and communicate through. And because the Q has Bluetooth and standard Wi-Fi, it can act as a bridge for your Android device to those connected pieces.

It could be light-bulbs, thermostats, dishwashers, refrigerators - any number of smart appliances. Suddenly, the Q is something very different. It's an Android-based hub to the next generation of household appliances and electricity. And your Android phone or tablet will be the interface through which all those awesome things are controlled. At that point, $300 sounds a little more reasonable. And let's not forget, these tasks don't exactly require cutting-edge tech. The Q needs enough horsepower to put out HD video and sound - those are the most processing-intensive tasks it will likely ever undertake. Beyond that, any smart-home / appliance stuff would be child's play for the dual-core processor in there for years to come. Google built the Q like a tank because it wants it to last.

And they gave everyone a Q because they want developers to (eventually) start playing with ideas for home automation. Think about it - you have a stationary device with basically every major wireless standard (Wi-Fi + ZigBee [probably], Bluetooth, NFC), a dual-core processor, and a number of connectivity options. The tinkering possibilities are certainly there.

Lingering Questions

The question, though, is if Google's bet on an automated "home of the future" will be a reality soon enough for the Q to have even been worth building. Google likes to be an early adopter, but if the home automation revolution turns out to be another decade away (or more), then the Q ends up as another failed experiment. And have no doubt - it's an experiment. Google is not aiming for mass-market success with this device, and at $300, they have to know they aren't going to get it. Yet.

The Q's design and hardware could easily weather 5 years, if not more, given its purpose. And the internals and connectivity could simply be updated if necessary. And the price will probably eventually drop, too. But we need things to use it with - a media center alone is just not enough, and I'm pretty sure Google knows this. The music and video streaming are more than anything a technical exercise, something Google knows how to do already and was able to implement out of the box. So what would make the Nexus Q worthwhile?

Imagine Ikea selling a $100 ZigBee ceiling fan, or a pair of ZigBee lamps. The ZigBee thermostat is already here. Refrigerators, washing machines. Coffee makers. Imagine the sorts of things that are modular - or at least easily replaceable. I think the fantasy-world where the average home's lighting can be controlled remotely is still a ways off (wiring), but don't forget to think small, too. Something as simple as setting your bedroom alarm clock from your tablet while you're in the living room watching TV can be, as Steve Jobs would say, magical.

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David Ruddock
David's phone is whatever is currently sitting on his desk. He is an avid writer, and enjoys playing devil's advocate in editorials, and reviewing the latest phones and gadgets. He also doesn't usually write such boring sentences.

  • Abhigyan Banerjee

    Very well writ article. Really interesting insight indeed.
    Just one bit of errata: the Play(at)Home text in the blogpost has been converted to a mailto: link. Just pointing it out :)

    Keep up the great Android coverage guys! 

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      Thanks, fixed.

      • thepeddle

        Great article David, unless there is some amazing "hidden" stuff in this Nexus Q it s a waste of time and money. I have a WD live box(99$) which streams all media from my Phones and laptop including HD content flawlessly. As well my PS3 does the same and when I have a party I encourage my friends to use their  media sharing DLNA apps to play their own music as well (one of the big selling points Google is pushing with the Q). When I enter my Apple loving buddy's houses and they're using Apple TV for their streaming I too take over the playlist from my note with Allshare or Imediashare. The only feature the Q really has "right" now is the built in AMP which could handle some book shelf speakers alone and play music. I do love the build quality of it and look and wish my WD live was a heavy sphere as well, but I'm not going to pay three times the amount for it. I really do hope there is amazing unlocked potential but until then no one really needs this device over the many other cheaper devices that do the same thing.

  • NeedName

    As stated previously, it has potential. . . . make it may "Nexus Home" base control for everything Android in my home. . .

    And for the made in USA price. . . no problem. Make it high quality to last forever, drop the LED light show, and make the internals upgradeable by Google or the owner for a lower cost upgrade. . . bang!

  • Amish Crusader

    Great article. Never underestimate Google, but also realize they aren't infallible (read: most of the things in Google labs) :)

  • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz

    I think the price is too high, even for made in the USA (and lets be honest, is it MADE here, or ASSEMBLED here?). It find the device pointless, since DLNA or DNLA or whatever its called is practically on almost all new phones anyway. 

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      And the first person to comment without reading has arrived. Welcome!

      • http://twitter.com/rdlf2048 Rodolfo Ferreira

         Ever since you posted that tablet-hater ridiculous critics, you did NOTHING but show favoritism to microsoft products. Reading your articles IS a waste of time. Maybe if somebody label the 'microsoft' trademark on the back of the Nexus Q, you would waste lines and lines saying how AAAAAAAWESOME this product is and how impressed you are with it.
        As I said before, if you prefer microsoft products, you should quit writing articles for Android.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          You're an idiot.

      • nick300

        he's right. This device is totally unnecessary  since I can already stream movies and music with my android and DLNA apps through xbox and ps3. So yeah, this device is a piece of crap. Thank you for writing garbage

  • Ron Amadeo

    You know the N7 strategy? Build the cheapest possible device, sell it at cost, and hope to make money on content? That was the right strategy for this. Not hyper-premium. 

    Hyper-premium is awesome, I would gladly buy a phone with this much thought put into the design, but I don't care about a box that sits under my TV. Just make it $50 and let me push YouTube to it.

    • blix247

      Its pretty much impossible to defend the device with its current feature set.  Its very well made, and the hardware clearly has more potential than is currently being utilized.  But all of that is unrealized potential as it stands now.  The current user base is Android devs and socialites.

  • JH

     I find the Q very interesting!
    Sadly living in Europe Play Movies, TV, etc aren't available :'(
    But if it were I would buy a Q ball on day one!

  • Philip Courtois

    Personally it is what I've been waiting for. I have a stereo worth a couple if thousand dollars, and I want a serious option for streaming my music collection that I've uploaded to Google Music. Unlike any other device (except for maybe the Sonos) Nexus Q takes audio seriously. However, the Sonos costs $500 for the version with amplifier built-in. However, in these days when people are not willing to pay more than $100 for a complete stereo system (if they even care listening to music away from the phone, TV or computer) the Nexus Q will not have mass appeal as is - but for me it's simple close to perfect. And I'm willing to pay a premium for a product that's quality made in the USA. THANK YOU Google for not just pushing the production to China like everybody else falsely claim that they have to (hint hint Apple).

    • BrianBreniser

      +1 for the american made comment. I like how at least so far Google is not following Apple to China. Keep jobs here that is what we need (even stupid boring jobs, eventually everyone needs to be good at something)

    • Jess Newcomb

      Exactly Philip I bought one to interact with my google play and tv and my stereo system. The fact it is made hear is a bonus, nice to keep complaining why there are no jobs in US but putting money where mouth is better. It does what I am looking to do made in USA and I believe will be due for some enhanced features later.

  • RedPandaAlex

    I worry whenever I hear the word "potential" associated with a new google product. They have a bad habit of releasing less than compelling products, and then abandoning them when a lot of people don't adopt them right away instead of fleshing them out.

    Though I have a hard time seeing them applying the nexus name to something they weren't going to follow through with.

  • http://profiles.google.com/justin.king323 Justin King

    I own a lot of Google services and devices.... but you are giving them to much credit: this is a massive misstep.

    Google wave massive

    • Luke A.

      But was wave a failure? Yes the interface and name have gone away, but (to me) the biggest feature has lived on. The ability to collaborate on a document was amazing. If nothing else wave was a sacrifice to find the best of several ideas they wanted to try.

      Nexus Q would definitely be an expensive sacrifice for Google and everyone willing to invest in it. Its one thing to spend their own money on an idea, but another to let others do as well. (Ok Google TV falls into this situation as well, but it isn't dead yet either.) It is risky to have two on the edge projects people can spend their hard earned money.

  • Lien Wee Hoo

    Anyone ever watch the Movie/Comic Gantz?

  • http://twitter.com/Tes_Mara Henrik

    Okay.
    Read the comment  "...or Wi-Fi direct video and music (eg, AirPlay)..."
    Well AirPlay do not use WiFi Direct.
    WiFi Direct connect the devices directly with no use of a router or accesspoint.
    On AirPlay you have to be on the same WiFi network.

    So a technical article getting that wrong. What else can it get wrong?

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ David Ruddock

      My mistake, it seems you're right. Though I fail to see how that calls the entire article into question, and the tone isn't appreciated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-N-Fran-Farrell/100002337622505 Jack N Fran Farrell

    If you want your kids to go to engineering school you give them tinker toys and erector sets. If you want inventive people to discover the future you give them Q.

    • Bweezydp

      Probably the closes to the truth why noy have home inventors take you project you put in the closet and make something out of it?

      now when a dev comes up with a way for you to watch what someone else is thinking on your tv this wull be the best product ever lol

  • Mitchell Feigley

    It has 16 gb of memory, more than the $199 tablet that is meant to hold apps and content. There will be updates here, and I expect it will eventually run apps independently and have controls pushed from a phone/tablet. Also I think they will add screen sharing from a phone/tablet once it is built-in to the core of Android, possibly with the next major release.

    • BrianBreniser

      I like those ideas. But simply put this is Gen 1, it will be extra expensive and do minimal things. But in the future (like 6 months tops) you will see it's uses get bigger. By Google io 2013 you will see the REAL purpose of the Nexus Q. What that will be only time will tell.

    • andreas

      That would be seriously interesting, beeing able to control the Q from any app, from any of your devices would be cool.  Perhaps they should had wait to flesh out an early API (maybe limited, but still better than nothing) before teasing us with it?

  • http://voodoowarez.com rektide de la fey

    The Q is brilliant: it's the only introduction to ubiquitous computing that is possible, one that will not come with the baggage of past expectations for interface, because it itself has none.My take:https://plus.google.com/113218107235105855584/posts/47hMEa6njmQ

  • http://profiles.google.com/dbonner David Bonner

    I haven't tried youtube yet, but I rented Shrek HD for my kids, and my Q is streaming in buttery smooth 1080p to my TV right now.

  • Merlin Wizard

    wish it did local because i have a whole lot of media on my zfs data store. i dont want no overly complex DLNA either. CIFS/NFS/{Screw Apple} is fine to start with

  • Chiper_tss_tss

    One has to die in the future, or they merge into one. GoogleTV or Nexus Q. I like the ideas you are giving for the Nexus Q. But as a GoogleTV owner, I also like what GoogleTV does for TV... Merging the two would be awesome.

  • http://royblumenthal.com/portfolio royblumenthal

    Uh... Has anyone here heard of a little something called PROJECT GLASS? Any thoughts about how one might manage video and audio streams from a coupla pairs of super-smart glasses? No? No thoughts?

  • marcusmaximus04

    There's one really obvious part of this whole thing that makes "A" an... unrealistic option: 16GB flash storage. This is supposedly a media streamer. It stores absolutely nothing except a build of Android 4.0(and let's be serious, if it's just streaming media that can be an incredibly stripped down of Android 4.0) and has no options of any kind to download and actually save anything onto it.

    They easily could have gotten away with loading this thing with 1GB storage and it'd be set for all foreseeable Android releases in the future. Instead they jammed 16x that amount in it. Something else is going on.

  • ericl5112

    I need them to add device mirroring.  Even non-techy friends and family (up to my grandfather) uses an iDevice and Apple TV to mirror on the TV.  It seems to be a popular feature.  I want it, but don't want a proprietary Samsung or HTC system to do it.

    • bluevoodo

      its called Wi-Fi display, the standards should be announced this summer, similar to HTC display and Samsungs stuff. Wi-Fi display will definitely be bettter than Airplay since Airplay needs you to connect to a network and Wi-Fi display will create its own network.

  • http://www.aceontech.com Ace

    Why is it shaped like a ball.

    • bluevoodo

       why is a business card rectangular?

      • http://www.aceontech.com Ace

        Obviously a business card's shape has a practical purpose. A ball-shaped set-top box however..

  • RKW

    So for the cost of a $10 cable I can connect my Galaxy Note to the HDMI port of my TV. This allows me to watch HD movies from Google play, listen to music stored locally or streamed over Cloud and even play games. Now Google expects me to pay $300 to do essentially the same thing except wirelessly, seriously??

    • http://twitter.com/simp1istic simp1istic

      They're probably don't expect you to.

  • Jakesjunk2005

    If Google has bigger plans for the Q than they've shown thus far, they need to hurry up and reveal them. Early impressions can be vital to a product's ongoing success. There is so much consumer negativity and doubt surrounding this product that Google risks it dying an early death before it has a chance to live up to its potential.

  • Cameron Charles

    Well this alters my opinion a little I always thought that tv/media box's like roku were huge in the US and that Apple tv had a large slice of that and that the q would have a home in the US for sure guess I was wrong which is bad because the US is one of very few if not the only place that has the full play store features to back the q up

  • Nigelsvw

    Great great article. I hope the second premise comes to fruition.

  • nick300

    Why the  heck is it called the "nexus" q??????? Google needs to go back to branding 101 at the local community college. Way to murder the good name that Nexus is kinda trying to become. A ball that streams music. Gee. Why not make a box that displays images, and call it the Nexus TV Kool TV Super Duper TV Nexus.

    • nzeroesc

      I think you are missing what this device will become.  It is about so much more than streaming music.  It will be the entertainment hub of your connected home. Or even if all it does is connect your phone to your stereo, it still fits the name

      nexusplural of nex·us (Noun)
      Noun:A connection or series of connections linking two or more things.
      A connected group or series: "a nexus of ideas".

  • http://twitter.com/PCSievers P.C. Sievers

    If this is true, and it would be nice if it is, then for it to get maximum return of value then they should be talking about this at launch.

    Making a completely open hub encouraging people to hack it and devs to build devices and software that interact with it works a lot smoother if you say up front "have at" rather than leaving it implied.

    It also doesnt cover the $300 wireless speakers which is just the craziest diversifying move, possibly ever. If the point is to get everything running via the Q and automating the home then getting Logitech onboard (if they are happy to ignore the Google TV failboat) to make speakers and have a Nexus Tassimo model for some wireless coffee and some random US electrics firm to make a wireless dimmer switch just as basic ideas to start then say "this is the future and it starts today" and they will get a ridiculous amount  of free promotion and sales due to media coverage.

    Instead everyone is concluding it is option one and there is a big black sphere that does some things relatively well at an extremely high mark up cost.

  • Fakiesk8r333

    Dear Mr Ruddock,
    You should be a cars salesman. I was totally set on not getting a Q but after reading this I am considering it. Especially once the devs hop on this bad boy. Great write up!!!

  • Tyler Chappell

    Well...actually I am starting to think I have been too quick to discredit this device for its seemingly very high price point, but now I am beginning to wonder. I think its possible the Nexus Q may in fact be a sleeping Giant.  Just imagine a few very simple things here.

    This was completely made in the US. With all of its networking capabilities, and quite frankly its super futuristic look and design, Google may very quietly be interested in manufacturing more than just entertainment and mobile devices.
    A toaster for instance, is a super simple piece of technology that is also pretty inexpensive. (thus it wouldnt be too expensive to make in the US right?)
    A Blender, also not too expensive.
    A paper towel dispenser, etc.
    Now for fairly minimal costs, say you simply give all of these items wifi/nfc/bluetooth capabilities.THEN consider Google Now. It knows when you're at work, it knows when you're at home, it knows what you may be about to do next based on what time it is and it essentially learns your daily routine. I am starting to think that Google indeed does have an interest in home automation.  Just imagine controlling these devices through your phone with the Q acting as the hub. Imagine the NFC chip in your GNex helping get toast or coffee started for you in the morning as you pull out your Nexus 7 and use Google Currents to check the news, etc.
    The possibilities are endless, and we've seen things other companies like Microsoft have been really trying to do in recent years concerning home automation. I think it is all much closer, and will even be more affordable than we think. Google knew this thing had even less features than the lackluster GoogleTV right off the bat, so why would they bother with it? Then take a project like Google Glass that very clearly shows how Google is thinking about the future. It is my hope that there will be much more to the Nexus Q than meets the eye. This thing has 16GB of storage, right?

    • RajivSK

      Extremely interesting.. Although this would open up some possibilities for very scary viruses.. Being able to control toasters and coffee machines...

      I just realized this may have something to do with the Q only accepting play store content as it would be too much of a risk to open up a home automation hub. 

      Will follow this very closely..

      • bluevoodo

         I know what youre talking about, although there is this proof of concept experiment where they hacked the computer to a Mercedes Benz and crashed the engine and brakes.

      • ste

         Don't you mean FUN viruses?

    • bluevoodo

       I liked your comment! got me wondering about the Q, hopefully you are right. Unfortunately well thought out products are not google's forte, it seems at first they are going the Google tv route.

  • habeeeeeb

    has anyone thought that maybe it costs $300 because they made it in the us

  • Myria

    I'm sorry, but this has "reach" written all over it.

    Any time you have to try and sell a product on *unstated* "potential", you're in trouble. If Google has plans for this beyond being a media streamer, they sure aren't saying so. And, frankly, that's flat stupid. So it really comes down to:

    1) They really mean this device to be an "awesome" media streamer and have sufficient brain damage to believe it'll sell as that for $300,

    or,

    2) They hope there's enough mind readers out there to see the "ultimate plan" and sell it to a skeptical world for them because... I dunno, they're too embarrassed to tell us their real goals -- or something.

    Personally I'm betting on '1' because the notion that they really intend it to be something other than what they've told us and don't mind the horrible press it's getting based on that is just a bit too much to swallow.

    • Franz Haertl

       I'd have to agree. Having everyone guessing on some kind of hidden agenda ("they can't be serious to sell this for 300 - thers's gotta be more to it") won't be enough to sell this device.

      It also doesn't mean there even IS any hidden agenda at all.

    • blix247

      Or they aren't prepared to launch the good stuff for at least six months and don't care to tip off competitors on the direction they are taking.  I'm not sure why its such a hard pill to swallow that companies aren't open with their roadmaps given the competitiveness of the space.  Is it really a reach to assume Google doesn't want to tip their hat before they are prepared?

      I agree that its silly to purchase a device on unannounced potential, but the device is capable of a lot more than it is currently doing.  For me, if the Google Play streaming functionality was also accompanied by Netflix and Amazon Prime this would be a massive success.  Navigation/Control on the tablet and the TV is just a dumb playback device.  Much better than Roku/AppleTV/GoogleTV etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonconort Jason Conort

    I think it's safe to assume that Google has some cool stuffed planed. Of course that's part of the reason we like them, always bringing the next, even if there isn't an obvious pay off. There are plenty of companies that play it safe and only care about how much we made today, at least we still have a few companies willing to think down the road and what could be. 

  • M4k8y

    Three words: Made by Nerds. Glasses? A gimmicky orb? I doubt any of these products will move in the market except for a niche segment (nerds).

  • demiserv

    more than likely it will be a google TV device.  all their other stuff is manufactured by someone else.  also 16GB is WAY too much for just streaming and i work in the IT field, and do ALOT of streaming and such.  there will be more.  and if it has the jellybean update the world will change.  google now is the most INTUITIVE assistant ever as i play with it on my GNEX.  if this thing can get root and all.....the DEVs will make this device more than worth it.  if google doesnt first

  • Jess Newcomb

    You could completely control your home via the internet on your phone to the Q and then to many bluetooth controller to lights appliances in home. Adjust light timing for security alarm system checks home video cams. Perhaps turn on A/C an hour or so before you get home so it is comfortable when you get there while not wasting energy. Add a bluetooth keyboard and perhaps you use it like a chrome book with tv as monitor. 16 gigs of storage onboard for games and apps can be very nice if they introduce more controllers.

  • http://twitter.com/grayle Gray

    Remember that thermostat that got every Apple fanboy talking?
    http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/22/nest-arm-zigbee/ apparently it too has a ZigBee radio. hmm...

  • David Anders

    just FYI, the Nexus Q hardware is almost identical to the PandaBoard-ES (http://www.pandaboard.org)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Nolwendil Jan Slavík

    Are you all blind? Did you all miss that it actually has a built-in amplifier? IMO that, and the fact that it's built in USA makes it so expensive. But that means you can listen to music without turning on your TV or having to buy a separate amplifier. That's why I think it is a perfect device for your kitchen or bedroom. All you need to do is hook your favorite speakers to it, and enjoy music from your NAS. Or if you wanna have a TV in your kitchen or bedroom, you can enjoy movies and TV shows as well. All with great sound coming from the Q and your speakers...
    For living room, it would be awesome as well, only the amplifier would not be enough to drive my speakers.
    Just you guys wait till XBMC for Anroid with support for Nexus Q is launched.I'm not for buying content forom Google Play, I have a massive library on my NAS, and I need a nice device (preferably with XBMC) to play it on...

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Nobody is arguing that the Q is not great hardware - it's the software that is puzzlingly limiting. So yeah, I want to use the Q, but I don't because it's absolutely useless to me at the moment. I don't a Play Store hub, I want it to be a media powerhouse - the next-gen Google TV.