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May
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According to Rightware's Power Board benchmark result site (see #11; the benchmark in question is Basemark ES2.0 Taiji), a long-rumored device has popped up in a result database: the much-awaited Nexus tablet. Here's the additional raw info you don't see in the benchmark that we were able to acquire from Rightware:

"os":  {

"android":  {

   "model":  "Nexus  7",

   "hardware":  "grouper",

   "manufacturer":  "asus",

   "device":  "grouper",

   "brand":  "google",

   "display":  "XXXXXX-userdebug  4.1  JRN51B  3XXXXX  dev-keys",

   "version_sdk":  "4.1",

   "board":  "grouper",

   "version_code":  "1"

}

}

Note: strings replaced with XXXXX were redacted by Android Police for privacy.

It doesn't look like much, but there are some very big implications we can draw from this data. First off, the device code name: grouper. This follows in line with Google's long tradition of naming Nexus (or official developer hardware) devices after fish. The XOOM, for example, was known alternatively as Wingray and Stingray, based on the variant. The Nexus One was Mahi-mahi. The G1 was trout. So, grouper makes a lot of sense here.

Next, the model name - Nexus 7. This seems to confirm the 7-inch form factor, as does the tablet-like resolution (768x1280 - found here).

Finally, we see that the the build number is JRN51B - J being for Jelly Bean, and we also see the build and SDK versions are 4.1. So it sounds like Jelly Bean will be Android 4.1. While this cannot be concretely verified and could have been faked, we felt it was important enough to share with our readers. Guess we'll find out next month.

Update by Artem: I dug into our server logs and found multiple instances of Android 4.1 and plenty of references to Galaxy Nexuses running builds like JRN54 and JRN54F, adding credibility to the information above. Only a few weeks ago, a JRN build was listed as JellyBean with no reference to the OS version, which happens before Google assigns one officially. It looks like now they have. Sure, this information in our server logs could have also been faked, but based on my experience, it's so consistent that it's very likely to be legitimate.

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David Ruddock
David's phone is whatever is currently sitting on his desk. He is an avid writer, and enjoys playing devil's advocate in editorials, and reviewing the latest phones and gadgets. He also doesn't usually write such boring sentences.

  • Chris Webster

    Thats all I need to say WANT!!!

  • http://twitter.com/BrazenRain BrazenRain

    1280x768? For a tablet that's genius!
    And so is JellyBean being 4.1 Back to incremental updates like Froyo to Gingerbread, now that ICS has made the big jump it has.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/no6969el Noel Barcellos

      I think this may be the case. 

    • Guest

      I think Google blew it. Tegra 3 and 1280x768?! Look at the Basemark performance. They should've gone with either S4/Pro or the new Exynos.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Cameron Summerson

        This tablet will likely be the flagship device for NVIDIA's Kai Project, which will put it in the $199 range. There's no way that Google could've hit that price point with an S4 or Exynos Quad. 

        This is not about pure processing power. It's about getting a fully usable Android tablet into the market at a price point that competes with the Kindle Fire and the Nook Color.

  • http://twitter.com/andr3wjacks0n andrew jackson

    I hope it isn't a POS.

    • Munsoned

      i agree. but I think we all know once the carriers get ahold of it... it will be a POS.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=775665643 Mark Coppock

        It's a tablet, not a phone. Carriers will have nothing to do with a wifi-only version.

        • Munsoned

          Yes, but if you want a data plan with your tablet you can by it at, lets say, AT&T; similar situation as an iPad.

          • mikeGsays

            Pretty sure the SGT8.9 LTE by AT&T isn't any different than the SGT8.9 WiFi other than it has a contract to go with it....  let's all relax a bit here, we all know we're going to buy it on the Play Store anyways, either OFF contract or NO contract (WiFi only)

          • Deltaechoe

            That's what tethering is for

    • warcaster

      What exactly are you expecting? It will be slightly better than Kindle Fire hardware wise, and a lot smoother and faster software wise. But that's about all you can expect.

      Are you expecting some kind of 1080p 7" device with 32 GB of storage? Because you won't see it.

      • Josh Nichols

        Nvidia tegra 3 is slightly better than the kindle fire..? I don't even know what kind of dual core processor the kindle fire has but it's nothing recent..

  • Aaron Douglas Charlong

    Didn't Google say they were going to push back updates to one a year?  This seems a little early for Jellybean in my opinion.

    • Josh Nichols

      Announcing it next month and it coming out next month are two different things though

      • Aaron Douglas Charlong

        You are right. But if the rumours are true, and the device does come out this Summer it would be too early. I think they should wait until the fall for the full reveal. Once again though, just my opinion.

        • http://twitter.com/anasqtiesh Anas Qtiesh

          Top two selling tablets on Amazon are 7": Kindle Fire, and Galaxy Tab 2 7". Google should launch this as quickly as possible to tap into that market. Not everyone needs/wants a 10" tablet.

        • warcaster

          I agree they should settle for once a year, and it should be at I/O, their biggest event of the year.

          But this time they will keep Android 5.0 for the fall launch with all the manufacturers, and they will launch their tablet at I/O. Their tablet couldn't have launched with the same old ICS, so they needed to add some extras to it, thus Jellybean. But hopefully starting with next year, all the major releases are done at Google I/O only. 

          Or at least preview the goodies for the fall launch, but don't launch a new version.

    • http://twitter.com/tadejkolino Tadej Rudec

      JB comes out in November, like ICS & GB.

    • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

      Did I miss something?  Last thing I saw was Google suggesting they wanted to deliver "major updates" about every 6 months (in this case they'll be 1-2 months late).  If you consider that Gingerbread was actually 2 separate API versions, about 6 months apart, it's not far-reaching to think that they are still going for the 6 month timeline. They are possibly aiming for an alternating Big-Release/Small-Release schedule...All things considered, the leaked/rumored information suggests that Jellybean will be "feature packed" in the sense of adding a lot of user-facing features (the same way Froyo did), but it's not going to change very much of the core OS or API, which marks it as a small update.

      Alternatively, since they are obviously tying a tablet into this particular release, they might be angling JB as an upgrade that makes tablets significantly more relevant and JB is somewhat out-of-band the way Honeycomb was.

      Just possibilities...who cares...let's just have it out.  I'm running all ICS right now and I need something new to want ;)

  • mechapathy

    Seems fishy (pun intended). Isn't the version number always the codename until release?

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Considering the release is a few weeks away, it was time they assigned one.

      • mechapathy

        I remember when Gingerbread was 3.0 based on the same reasoning.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          Source?

          • http://profiles.google.com/mechanizedapathy Shawn Brandel

            Okay, so it's not exactly the same circumstances, but here's a link from this site. Also if you Google "3.0 Gingerbread", you'll see the whole web was convinced that that was the version number. My point is things change.

            http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/06/30/minimum-specs-for-android-3-0-gingerbread-released-aims-for-complete-break-from-android-2-12-2/ 

            This is mechapathy btw. Apparently I'm logged into disqus with a different account on my phone.

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            Fair enough, though that was a direct quote by a guy who has lost a lot of credibility since, kind of like digitimes. I'm still confident it'll be 4.1 this time around, but, of course, we'll see when the time is right.

  • http://www.theandroidsite.com benmarvin

    Interesting how the name "grouper" is used, which was a Pentium 4 motherboard made by Asus.

  • GazaIan

    ICS adoption rates are still under 10%, and here's a jellybean device coming..

    • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

      keep in mind that ICS was a huge change under the hood. The same thing happened with M$. Vista was a big change from XP and saw little adoption, then win7 came out and saw mass adoption. This is because the big changers lay the ground work for the new OS's Hell this happened with eclair and froyo if you remember.

      • Guest

        Please! Vista was a bigger leap - agreed. MS pushed it badly but nobody wanted it!

        ICS is a big leap - agreed and everybody wants it but the carriers are not ready to give it. So ICS and Vista adoption are completely different things!

        • http://www.anivision.org/ Christopher Bailey (Xcom923)

          Of course they are not the same I never said they were but they are similar with the rollout also you missed my point that we have seen this with Android before. My guess is that ICS will have a quick turn over to jelly bean since the two will be so similar

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    Updated the post with some further evidence that 4.1 is likely legitimate.

  • JonJJon

    Looks like this could be a promising "leak", would be nice if Google really can hit the gem of a £150 (or some like $199) price point to get more shifted but NOT at the cost of quality and performance I would hope. A good resolution for a 7" job and a good sign of an "incremental" update, though will still bring nice additions/updates I'm sure to the table.

  • neowiz73

    I'm sure we will see some good leaks just before the Google I/O, so glad I have a nexus. It'll be part of aokp before we know it.

  • fixxmyhead

    Ugh here we go with the fake rumors

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Got something to back up the "fake" claim?

      • fixxmyhead

        No but I don't believe anything until it's for real. Do we remember the fake rumors about the galaxy nexus with a steel chassis or the ceramic body of the s3 or how about that 1080p screen.seriously people just like to add to the rumor mill with ridiculous claims.also why are they already pushing for the next version when few even have ics

        • http://twitter.com/PCSievers P.C. Sievers

          ICS was announced this time last year when few had Gingerbread. It is just the way it is.

  • http://twitter.com/ElrandoHorse MGardner
  • http://twitter.com/Flippy125 Flippy125

    You guys are still waiting for Jellybean? I'm running 4.2 Key Lime Pie on my Gnex

    • Eduardo Diaz

      Very funny -_-

    • http://twitter.com/videowylie Michael Wylie

      how? links?

    • Aguanteelcachorro

      You are so far behind, I'm running a nightly of Android 4.3 Lollipop.

  • Sebastien Coulombe

    Nexus 7 ???

    The way that the Nexus 6 experiment ended, not too sure I'm excited about this...

    #UNICORNS

    • Strra

      lol blade runner reference

  • ElfirBFG

    Already on the hunt for a Nexus VII vinyl to adorn the Nexus 7 tablet.

  • http://richworks.in Richie

    Why on earth are Google choosing NVIDIA as their hardware partner? They are the least open of all the OEMs...

    • Craig Rathbone

      Yeah, ATI are REAL forthcoming with APIs and drivers for Linux based systems..............

  • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

    I am getting more and more boggled about why so many people are arguing that it's too early to release Jellybean.  Are you people daft or just don't get why it should be this way?  There's 3 great reasons that they should be pushing out major updates about as often as reasonably possible.

    1. Manufacturers, regardless of the ill-will they've earned for custom overlays, actually do need time to properly build drivers, test compatibility, optimize performance, etc.  Also, when Google releases updates rapidly it makes customers want the new versions, and those customers are pissed because they are waiting longer for OEMs to push them out, which results in more pressure for the OEMs to keep versions updated.  Consider about a year ago when one of the better known security researchers exposed that upwards of 80% of all Android phones suffered from a security hole in Networking because they hadn't yet been updated to a version of Android that had fixed it.  With frequent updates and high customer demand, the manufacturers are more likely to be forced to update devices at least frequently enough that bugs that had been fixed over a year earlier won't still be hanging around.

    2. Developers should have it so they can start working on updating current apps to function correctly with the new version.  If the whole world got it the same day, a vast majority of apps would suffer bad bugs and crashes, which inevitably leads to regular people leaving bad ratings on good apps.  Speaking as a developer, sometimes fixing changes in new versions of a framework can take a long time, and most of us aren't actually living in a basement coding all day.  Developers need time to get the new version, possibly get a new device, testing their apps (often times it's more than just one app), and fix bugs...sometimes they also need the time to add new features that take advantage of the new APIs.

    3. It's simply stupid to insist on slowing down development when people are begging for more. There's a lot left to improve or add, why should Google slow down and wait for all of that to catch up?  In case nobody here is paying attention (and I doubt most are), if you look around at the "fan" sites for WP7 and iOS, there are people all over practically begging Apple and Microsoft to build a list of features larger than any of us could read.  And if you think it would be bad on fan sites, it's 1000 times worse with developers.  I'm releasing a Windows Phone app this week (well, might be next week if certification takes 5 days again) and I've already run into about 5 walls where features just don't exist yet...hell, we can't even give promotional codes to redeem our apps for free (a feature commonly used in iOS and can be easily replicated in Android).  Android is leading the pack with features (even if some need to go back to the drawing board), there's no reason to stop doing it better.

    It's also worth pointing out, while it is framed differently, all of the major companies do something like this.  Microsoft releases developer previews of Windows constantly (I knew people running Windows 8 since early last year).  Apple's developer program makes available iOS and MacOS versions reasonably far in advance.  In both cases, it's commonly accepted that they are beta versions with time limits that are only intended for developers, Android just doesn't label it the same way.  If not for the swarming fan-base that Android has, nobody would see Jellybean as a release to the public, they would see it as a release to developers that sorta spills over onto the public.

    I've yet to see somebody give a reason that new versions shouldn't come out frequently...Only people complaining that stuff comes out and they don't have it yet.  Don't blame Google, blame Samsung/HTC/LG/Motor...err,Google ;)  With Google opening the doors on the source earlier (this is a future plan) it will ensure that firmware updates happen earlier and it will help resolve the issues of hardware support.  I'm sure somebody can give "reasons" why updates should come slower, but I can't see any of them being compelling when compared to the reasons I gave above.  At least that's my take on it...

    tl;dr version: STOP COMPLAINING THAT THE THING YOU LIKE IS GETTING BETTER!!!!

    • Navjot94

      They should just call it a dev release so that people stop bitching about it and just make "releases" yearly.

      • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

        So, do it like Apple...
        ;)

    • Navjot94

      They should just call it a dev release so people stop bitching

    • Navjot94

      They should just call it a dev release so people stop bitching

  • http://code.google.com/p/lg-v909 Aaron Echols

    If its a nexus device, how are they going with a tegra device? Did nvidia all of the sudden have an open heart towards open source? Yeah...

  • Moliveira1025

    Give me 10 inches are say a 249 price tag.And I'm in. 7 inches leaves me wanting.

    • Tim Harper

      That's what she said :D

    • http://profiles.google.com/marcusleejh Marcus Lee

      Wait for it...

      THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

      Sorry.
      #ithadtobedone

  • TareG

    I really hope it's 'of highest quality' like the ex-CEO said before... I want a very, very decent screen.. Like the new Pixel Qi or a SAMOLED...

  • http://www.facebook.com/Introducing.TJB TJ Biddle

    Still waiting for better 10+" tablets to come out.. I feel like all the news is 7".

  • http://twitter.com/rohanXm Rohan Mathur

    Jelly Bean is a large release or not?

  • TareG

    Extreme wishful thinking: It would have the new Pixel Qi screen, which is super power efficient, sunlight readable, while equivalent to the iPad 3 in color contrast and saturation.

  • JordanMcRae

    Ugh I will be bummed if 4.1 is Jelly Bean, it just doesn't make sense for another dessert name to be used if it is just .1 "minor" update. The average public will just get confused unfortunately. I'm all for updates but with the pace the updates and ICS adoption are coming along, it could be a bad year for Android with another release. 

    • Daniel Butler

       .1 is a major update, it's just not an API update.  And there is good history for them to use a new name for a .1    Cupcake/Donut were both 1.x  Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread were both 2.x

      • http://twitter.com/Mark_Lunney Mark Lunney

        They did seem to stop this for Honeycomb though (3.0, 3.1, 3.2), but maybe the smaller userbase of tablets made those .x updates less 'major'. Considering that there were some significant changes between 4.0.0 an 4.0.4, I think 4.1 could definitely merit the new J name.

        • Himmat Singh

           My Tab 10.1 updated from 3.1 to 3.2 not too long ago, but it seemed incremental only. No real difference/improvements at all between the two. This is unlike 2.2/2.3, which had considerable difference. Then again, 2.0/2.1 was same name and incremental.

        • Josh Nichols

          Honeycomb was also closed-source for a long time. I think Honeycomb was just trying to be a "stop-gap" for tablets because 2.3 sucked balls as a tablet OS. 

        • Rockstargfx5

          The reason honeycomb got its updates the way it did was because unlike 1.x and 2.x honeycomb was purely tablet only. Honeycomb was never released to any phones. With 4.x it'll be back to normal because it's for tablets and phones. Every version besides 3.x got really good yearly 0.1 updates. Plus 3.0 to 3.1 and 3.2 weren't yearly updates and didn't get new names.

    • PhilNelwyn

      The average consumer doesn't know the system has a dessert name...
      I even know some people who weren't aware that their phone was an Android device before I told them!

    • Josh Nichols

      Do you think the general public is retarded?

  • http://twitter.com/psych2L Joseph Lee

    I can't believe no one has thought of this yet, Nexus 7, N7. IT'S USING MASS EFFECT FIELDS!

     #motherofgod

    • http://mobipedia.in Hardeep Singh

      No, it will dual boot Windows Phone 7.

      • Bariman43

        Oh god no. I will disown the tablet right on the spot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=636165701 Zaeem Shahzad

    Why is everyone arguing so much? Let's just wait for Google I/O and see what's what. Stay happy, folks! :)

  • http://ajileo.com/ David Ramirez

    Nexus 7 ???

    The way that the Nexus 6 experiment ended, not too sure I'm excited about this...

  • Björn Lagerwall

    Rumor or not. If 4.1 is considered a big update or not. I'm very curious about it and I want it. Can't wait for more info!

  • http://twitter.com/nicknowsky nicknowsky

    i dunno why everyone is worrying which build is gonna be coming out. The big thing here is the FIRST REAL ANDROID tablet is gonna hit the market. Top specs and Pure Google experience. I only use Nexus phones theres a reason for that. Ive had a few Android tablets already, but I keep selling and sticking with my iPad (i got the latest iPad) THe 7in form factor is what Ive been looking for and its gonna blow people away

  • Josh Nichols

    Also Maguro and Toro are sushi ingredients, just to add to the fish thing ;)

  • Trill43

    Honestly I believe this is just more of what they wanted to do with ICS aka 4.0 but didn't have the time since its 4.X format

  • detnutz

    May this be what their big secret ASUS is teasing for Computex 2012 next week?  Just a hunch.  Check the video out 
    http://www.techinstyle.tv/computex-2012/. Apparently more info is to come tomorrow.

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