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Today, I uninstalled the Amazon Appstore and bought all the FAOTD (free app of the day) apps I've been really using. Why did I do it? Because, mildly put, the Amazon Appstore app, which is required for all Amazon-installed apps to run and perform their license checks, has affected my battery life in very negative ways. Even if you never open it, it will keep running in the background, using up valuable CPU cycles, keeping the device awake when it should be sleeping.

Now, this may not happen to everyone - it's possible that a combination of events leads to this unacceptable behavior, or maybe it's having certain apps installed - I'm not sure. What I am sure of, however, is that I am not alone (the list goes on). About a week ago, I noticed this on my Epic 4G Touch (that's Sprint's version of the Galaxy S II):

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In the past few days, I've been checking my battery stats, and the Appstore app has been somewhere close to the top every time. The 2-hour battery life is completely unacceptable, and is likely due to several factors at play (poor reception being one of them - thanks, Sprint) - it's not usually this bad. The point here is that continuing to have a single, non-essential app that is responsible for 15-30% of my battery life makes little sense. Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot showing it (this information shows up when you click Appstore in battery stats), but the Appstore was responsible for tens of minutes of CPU and awake time without ever being run manually - a number very high by all standards.

In addition to getting rid of this bloatware (that's the best word I can think of to describe it), I have re-evaluated all the applications I've installed thanks to Amazon's free app of the day program and purchased the ones I thought were truly worthy. This means less crap I don't actually use on my device and more money in those developers' pockets who really deserve it.

So, if you're using the Amazon Appstore, check your battery gauge and see if it's adversely affecting your battery. You may not even be realizing it. Do it every day for a week to see whether your device is affected.

At some point you have to ask yourself whether a few dollars saved are worth having to deal with a potential hit on the battery life, and to me, the choice was obvious. As they say, there's no such thing as a free lunch...

Update: To address your concerns about a busy notification area, I have SystemPanel and Tasker permanently taking up space there. The other one is PowerAMP as I was playing music at the time, while the rest that are collapsed are various notifications from Gmail and recent app installs I didn't clear - all things that are not that uncommon. As you can see from the battery stats, no other apps outside of Gmail are using the battery or anything close to what the Appstore is using.

Artem Russakovskii
Artem is a die-hard Android fan, passionate tech blogger, obsessive-compulsive editor, bug hunting programmer, and the founder of Android Police.
Most of the time, you will find Artem either hacking away at code or thinking of the next 15 blog posts.

  • Anonym Doe

    I never thought that NOT being in the USA and therefore not being able to use the Amazon app store (its forbidden), would then be a blessing...

  • aNYthing6

    Sucks that you don't have ICS yet - limiting the background data of the app can essentially stop the battery hogging.

    • Mike

      I doubt this would work.  The app constantly phones home so any of the apps you purchased with the amazon app store would stop working if they couldn't communicate.

    • http://www.theandroidsite.com benmarvin

      Those screenshots are clearly from ICS. Probably a custom ROM.

      • mechapathy

        I think you mean clearly NOT from ICS.

        • Zacisblack

          Are you an idiot? The GSII with ICS looks exactly like that. And those battery stats are only present in ICS.

          • phanmo

             I am looking at those battery stats in Gingerbread right now, although I can't tell you if the screenshots are from ICS or not. 

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            Nope, you're wrong. I'm on Gingerbread, and the battery stats are in there. No need to call people idiots.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Emerson/592299397 Ryan Emerson

        I think you're confused on what ICS looks like.

  • http://twitter.com/rohanXm Rohan Mathur

    Holy crap... for a second there you made it sound like it was closing down... as I was clicking on the link I was thinking in my head "No... god no... please no..."

    Their free app of the day is definitely worth it. And I personally haven't experienced any of the issues you mentioned.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It didn't happen to me every time, but lately it's been in the list more and more, so it may not happen to you until one day - BAM.

      • Barton82

        Have you tried clearing data of the amazon app first? It helps when the app is becoming sluggish.

      • Cliff

         hi.. ive been reading your post ,  you have mentioned battery drain issues.. well , just a bit of personal experience (however this is not regarding amazon appstore coz im not residing in the US) you mentioned u r using poweramp,just noticed since i installed this app . it is running in the background about 30mb ram usage so i tried to adjust settings and found out that if "resume in headset connect" was disabled/ unchecked poweramp will not run in the background.. i guess this will help conserve batt....however if u  connect headset u have to hit  "play " again to continue to listen to music as the  headset miscro service was disabled  (of course)

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          I actually have that option disabled already. I don't want it to resume when a headset is connected since it used to resume even if I have another app running (like BeyondPod).

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          I actually have that option disabled already. I don't want it to resume when a headset is connected since it used to resume even if I have another app running (like BeyondPod).

  • shift

    Quite the busy status bar...

    • jjrudey

      Seriously. I think he needs to get rid of more than just Amazon Appstore.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        To address your concern, I have SystemPanel and Tasker permanently taking up space in the notification area. The other one is PowerAMP as I was playing music at the time, and the rest you can't see are various notifications from Gmail and recent app installs I didn't clear - all things that are not that uncommon.

        As you can see from the battery stats, no other apps besides Gmail is using the battery or anything close to the Appstore.

        • jjrudey

          Android OS is taking up 38%. Doesn't look like Tasker and SystemPanel are doing you much good.

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            I'd really like to get to the bottom of why that is as well, but that's besides the point.

          • http://twitter.com/TheGermian Germian

            Hm, definitely strange. Did you try out to uninstall every app you got from the Amazon Appstore? Maybe there was a bad app that was calling home a little bit too often? I'd just try out and only have the Amazon Appstore app installed without using any app from it and see if it still sucks the battery out.

            (And I can't say anything else to the matter, European here, so no Amazon Appstore)

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            I haven't, but that's not something I should be dealing with. The Play Store doesn't do it, and it supports a license check just as well as Amazon. If Amazon doesn't cache the license status while the Play Store does, then it's Amazon's fault. Either way, it shouldn't be the top battery user on my list, and I'm happy to get rid of it if the same apps that were installed from the Play Store don't drain the battery nearly as much as a result.

          • http://profiles.google.com/scottoldfield Scott Oldfield

            Yeah. I'm not a fan of the Amazon Appstore myself, but I'm wondering if there is just not something else going on with your device with the Android OS as that high as well as the App Store, if really seems suspicious. I had some of the same problems with Android OS on my NS when it was on GB and even when it was on ICS 4.0.2, but now with both my NS and GNex on 4.0.4, those problems have all gone away. Nonetheless, there are many other good reasons to get rid of the Amazon Appstore anyway, as you noted.

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          The Android OS is taking an obnoxious amount of power, probably because it keeps manually boosting the power to the radios to connect. Your signal is too weak for your phone to have a useful amount of battery life. As for the Appstore, were you using the latest build of the Appstore? Did you turn off background data services for the Appstore?

          Though I didn't turn off background data services, the Appstore does not regularly consume battery life for me. It blips on for a few seconds every day to check my Amazon account and then quits.

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            I was using the latest version, yeah. The only thing I turned off were notifications.

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          Can you check the absolute CDMA2000 signal strength values and post them?

        • Nobody

          Some folks act like you don't use your phone...

    • Zaatour36

      no wonder why he losses battery fast :)

  • http://twitter.com/Vosko33 Jon Vosko

    I've never experienced that on my phones.... G2 or Nexus

    • Zaatour36

      Me neither
      on GS2  ! 

  • Gabriel

    I gave it up because you never got updates as Google Play, plus the DRM check prevented me from playing when i had network connection

    • yankeesusa

      I always get udpates on mine. Remember you have to set it to remind you about updates or you can just go to your apps list in the amazon app and select updates and there will be a list of apps in there. I don't know why some of you are having issues. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. Never really had a problem with amazon app store.

  • Robortaccio

    You are doing it wrong... 0% usage here.

    • rm_blogger

      Mine averages between 2-4% which is completely unreasonable for an app I open once every couple of weeks.

    • TBolt

       Glad to see the story, though.  I now know to watch Amazon's app more closely.  Fortunately, the app isn't even listed on my Rezound.

      • James Jacobs

        Nor mine.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Xorg-Kc/100000867435778 Xorg Kc

      It seems to be just a problem with Epic Touch (SGII).  I have the same problem and had to remove Amazon.  All OK.  Tried re-installing and the CPU shot back up again.  Come on Amazon, fix this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Palting7 Shane Palting

      Same here, nothing on my usage list at all...

    • Spike760

       0% usage as well even using apps I've gotten from the Amazon App Store. SGH-T989 (T-Mobile Galaxy S II)

  • banjoonmyknee

    I got rid of it not because of battery usage but because it seemed very redundant to me.  It's useful on my Kindle Fire but not so much on my phone.

  • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

    Odd, Amazon Appstore doesn't even show in my battery history at all for today, and I definitely have plenty of their apps installed. Wonder what gives.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bryanmounce Bryan

    I did exactly the same thing.  My battery life has never been better since uninstalling the Appstore.

  • http://twitter.com/SD1337 Steve DeBellis

    Uninstalled. This article was really the last push I needed to get rid of it.. The free app of the day gimmick is just that. Most of the apps are updated faster and more frequently on the Android Market anyway.

  • http://thekonietzkystrain.tumblr.com/ NeuroMan42

    The Amazon App Store is a battery and memory hog and has been for a very long time. Dropped them over 3 months ago, and also dropped a few so-called battery "saving" apps that were just as bad.

  • http://www.theandroidsite.com benmarvin

    Just curious, how much did you spend buying the free AOTD that you really used? You have to figure they've put out probably "$2000 worth" of free apps by now. So maybe $20 of that is worth a crap?

    Also, FWIW, many of the popular apps that were free from Amazon still are free on GetJar.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I think outside of all the apps I've purchased over the years, I only spent about $10-15. Everything else I either didn't need (or don't as of now) or already purchased.

  • RampageDeluxe

    Amazon appstore is never listed in my battery stats, but Google Play is always there somewhere.

  • Tx Redneck

    When I was running CM based roms, Watchdog would frequently alert me of Amz eating 40% cpu cycles when it should have been in a deep sleep state.

    I haven't had this issue on modded Samsung leaks for my I717.

  • http://twitter.com/TheGermian Germian

    @archon810:disqus (This is pretty strange that you can't answer someone's comments after a few other comments)
    There are other apps that do that, too. Don't know if you know the app, but "BetterBatteryStats" from XDA can be a big help with such problems you can't identidy with the integrated Battery option alone. With it I found out that the Groupon app called home and produced wakelocks even with every notification and other option turned off.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I've been running this app for the last few days
      (at someone's recommendation), but after I'd uninstalled the Appstore. Nothing obvious has popped up.

  • Saul Martinez

    I don't have this problem with the appstore, but I definitely have a problem with "Android OS" using a big chunk of battery. My reception is superb, so I don't think that's the problem. Does anyone else know why it might be so high?

  • xwera43

    None of the Amazon apps (bloatware) can be uninstalled on US Cellular's SGSII. :(

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Root is your answer.

  • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

    I can tell you what it is with relative certainty.  Some app that you had installed and was running with at least some frequency was doing license checks every single time it ran (or performed some common operation) instead of caching the result like it was supposed to. Considering the circumstances, I've got a sneaking suspicion that it may have been (or included) a widget.  I saw the same thing happen to a friend right after he updated an app on his phone.

    Not for nothing, but as of tonight I'm flashing a new rom (CM 7) onto my phone and the Amazon Appstore is one of the apps that will not be re-installed (along with the other Amazon apps, a few facebook and twitter clients I've finally given up on, and about half of Google's little failures like Schemer and Listen). As a side effect, I'll probably be dropping about $25 on a few apps to re-purchase/replace what I'm giving up with Amazon.

    • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

      Rather than reply to each comment individually, I'm just going to say it in here.  This is something to blame on Amazon even if an individual app is at fault.  While it may be a bug in a specific app causing the repeated license checks (if that actually is the problem), it's Amazon's fault for not building in a safe-guard for this, which would have been easy; though I admit, it wouldn't have been obviously necessary until there are repeated complaints.  If that's not enough of an argument, let's remember that this is one of the things that a curated app store is supposed to watch for and prevent.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        That's the conclusion I reached as well. I hope this post will send then a swift kick in the butt and gets this resolved for the folks who will continue using it. I like the clean feeling of getting rid of bloat like this, and I'm glad I did it, going back to the Play Store exclusively.

        • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

          I *just* finished getting everything re-installed on my phone (I fell asleep in the middle of that last night).  This is the first time this phone has run ICS, so I had to manually install each app (and I chose not to re-install from TB / MBP / ROM Toolbox).  It occurred to me that one great thing about leaving behind Amazon would be that future flashes will auto-install all of my apps for me and I don't have to wade through 450-ish apps to find the 2-4 I would have continued using.

          It's not like it actually makes a significant difference technically (I didn't have the battery drain like you), but I just feel somehow cleaner by not having Amazon installed on my phone.

  • Ruperto17

    Your battery life is out of control. 
    I think it's time to re-evaluate everything you have installed on that phone.
    Something similar happened to me last year and once I did a factory reset my battery life was back to normal. From that point forward I only re-installed the apps that I really needed and all was good.

    • KreeTerry

      i usually do this every 3 months or so.  At the very least it help keep the app drawer tidy.

  • Troy Barnhardt

    I thought you must be nuts so I opened my battery screen and saw that the Amazon store was at 10% of my battery.  It would have been a LOT higher except I forgot to turn off my wireless at work and the phone spent the day trying to connect to the printer  in the next office, which raised the wireless stat quite a bit.

    Considering the fact that I haven't used the Amazon store at all since the last time I rebooted my phone, that's not good.

    • phanmo

       "...except I forgot to turn off my wireless at work..." You should get Tasker! ;)

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    Updated the post with links to forums where people are reporting the same problem. The list goes on...

  • Jim Thomson

    GetJar is always running too.. that's why I only install it when I'm looking for software

  • The Josh Winkler

    Not sure what your deal is. I can't think of a time I've ever had the appstore show in my battery usage. Trying getting rid of your task killer, it's probably killing the app store, which then reboots itself, which then gets itself killed, etc. It's shite behavior, to be sure, but don't blame the app store on this one.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Umadbro, I don't use a task killer, I'm not stupid. :) The only reason I use SystemPanel is to kill misbehaving apps when they freak out.

      • The Josh Winkler

        Still, wouldn't blame the app store. It's far more likely one of the apps, not the store, that's causing the problem.

        To clarify, it's the app store I cited for bad behavior, not you. It's also not good on their part to not cache any DRM or license checks or anything or that sort. I'm betting that's part of their FAOTD logic, however, we give it away for free, but make damn sure it's through us.

        There are lots of problems with their app store, but I don't think this is (directly) one of them.

        • mckooter

           Good point, I wonder if a badly designed app could cause the Appstore ping process to go out of wack? if so its still an Amazon issue that they need to work out but might explain Artem's situation of no issue, and then huge issue...

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I don't have a task killer and nothing is killing anything except for Android OS itself when it chooses to.

      • The Josh Winkler

        Still, unlikely to be the app store. If the OS is whacking it all the time, that means you have too many things running and it can't spare even a tiny amount of background memory. These are phones, after all, and not Alienware gaming machines. They do have their limits

        • Eric

          I've had the same issue on multiple phones.  The amazon app store is an abomination.  It is slow, uses excessive battery, and apps get updates sometimes months later.  Uh no thanks.  I'll continue to use my phone in a better manner.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          I have 1GB of RAM and the usage never gets close to that. The OS would only kill services after it kills apps and doesn't have other methods of getting more RAM, but none of my apps ever get killed by Android, which indicates it doesn't kill services either (and it really doesn't - music, Tasker, etc always work when in the background).

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          I have 1GB of RAM and the usage never gets close to that. The OS would only kill services after it kills apps and doesn't have other methods of getting more RAM, but none of my apps ever get killed by Android, which indicates it doesn't kill services either (and it really doesn't - music, Tasker, etc always work when in the background).

  • NemaCystX

    Here's what I did to eliminate the Amazon drm, although I don't know if it works anymore.

    I make backups of my apps because I'm a "flash-aholic"  to my delight when I restored a backup and didn't realize it didn't restore my backup of Amazon app store, the apps from my Amazon collection didn't nag me to sign in to the Amazon app.  Might have been a glitch or I lucked out.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      They'll probably cache the license check data for a bit and then check again in the future and fail at some point.

      • NemaCystX

        I've been able to use it without logging in for a few months now.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/URDPUIT5WBQ6KNO73DR4TOFW7U DC lmanlo

    As other's have mentioned, I think is an app that is requesting license. As I don't have that problem both on my Nexus and my sister's Samsung Galaxy Player. There's not even a trace of it. Also almost all apps are from FAOTD

  • Therev29

    Maybe an app with a bad license check?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Shinakuma George Millhouse

    wow the app store isnt even on my list of things using the battery 

  • Four Sixty

    No problem here, Droid Incredible running Android 2.3.4 with a "bunch" (not exactly sure of the exact number but over a dozen) of apps from Amazon.  I do see intermittent heavy (>50%) CPU utilization by the Amazon Appstore but it never accounts for significant battery usage.

    Hopefully Amazon will figure this out for those having problems.  I generally choose Amazon when buying apps over Google Play despite Play's superior update schedules.  I just can't stand the crap (especially the selections of bad pop music) that's always plastered across Play's home screen.

  • spydie

    Amazon app uses no battery power on my G-note... so you can see this is not a problem that everyone is having.  I, too, would delete it if it really were sucking the battery, but so far, there's no reason to delete it. I see that others are having the same experience.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It's a problem for some, as I mentioned (and even bolded in the text) and doesn't happen to everyone.

  • johnforamerica

    A couple comments: 1)The HIGH Android OS % is a known issue on the Epic 4G Touch, probably having to do with the kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490750)

    2) Uninstalled the facebook app and Amazon Appstore and saw significant battery improvements with both uninstalls.

    Hope that helps!

  • Scott Warner
  • http://www.williamint.com William Aleman

    After seeing this post I checked my battery stats, and saw Beautiful Widgets taking 22% of my battery. Immediately removed widgets, will see tomorrow. Does anyone have this problem? 14h and still counting on my phone. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/abetsi Albert Rabuyo

    ROM Toolbox's Auto Start Manager might help you?

  • Sack

    Checked my battery usage and have no problem with Android Appstore, but the new Ritz Carlton App is at 7% (highest other than OS, Display, and Wi-fi)... I haven't even opened that app since I checked it out over a week ago.  Time to delete that one. 

  • Nobody

    The exact reason I uninstalled a month ago, I've seen major battery improvements. Wise decision sir.

  • Vivek Bhatia

    how do you check battery usage by program?

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It's a standard battery reporting UI in Android - go to Settings and you should find it there.

  • Bakemcbride21

    Running bamf 1.11 on rooted tbolt...app store will randomly go "psycho" for no reason and freeze up copious amounts of memory slowing down the phone.

    I use Watchdog blacklist to kill it as soon as it starts to misbehave above 15%...ironically which I got for fee through the amazon app store...lol

    This behavior has been more pronounced ( blacklist kills) since the most recent update to 2.4 for what it's worth.

    I imagine if I didn't kill it when it misbehaved I would see it on my battery use page..but I don't.

  • Taliesin

    Oh hey, that reminded me...I was gonna download today's FAOTD. Thanks. Just checked my battery stats. Amazon Appstore wasn't anywhere near the top. Different strokes, I guess. HTC Inspire 4G running CM7 here.

  • Slagg3

    Yout doing it wrong i never have the amazon app store shoe in battery stats or in running apps

  • Slagg3

    Yout doing it wrong i never have the amazon app store shoe in battery stats or in running apps

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Clearly since it didn't happen to you, it must not be a problem for anyone else.

  • Dewind

    I wouldn't say that the Appstore is not also responsible for the battery drain, but from the looks of it, you've (also) got the infamous "Android OS" bug. It happens to me sometimes on my NS, and it just chews the battery like nothing else. On the NS, a solution that works 100% of the times (for me and some other folks on xda) is deleting all widgets and fully recharging the phone. After that, it disappears for some time (like, a couple of weeks), before popping up again.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ottermann Jason Heiken

    Amazon App Store is sitting at the top of my list, but only 6%. ZDbox reports 36 hours left at 80% full.
    I typically get 48 hours between charges on my Droid 3. 
    That's with average usage. If I watch a couple videos and spend some time playing Cogs or Snuggle Truck, I still get at least 24 hours out of the phone.

    *note* my battery life was less than 24 hours until I rooted and froze all of Verizon and Motorola's' bloat.

  • Yadiyada

    Have been using the Amazon App store for over a year on 5 different devices without any negative effects on battery life. Very busy notification bar: you need to look deeper into battery drain from something else going on on your phone (E4GT here too!)

  • N8shon

    I just added the amazon appstore to my auto-ended apps in the task manager on my Razr Maxx, so it ends even if it were running after 2 mins of screen off time. No problem. 

  • Marknovelselitsky1984

    To everyone talking about android OS usage: that's what happens to galaxy S2's that are woken up a lot.

    S2's have to enter and exit sleep at 800mhz, which means the system processes that have to run at these times (which go under the "android OS" label in battery usage) get assigned the bulk of the blame when an app wakes the phone up to do very little work itself.

    It's bad enough that in extreme cases (like this) you might be better off if the phone never enters deep sleep. I havent tested much but the phone could probably last about 10 hours with a constant partial wakelock. I've seen the phone drain much faster than that when an app causes excessive deep-sleep/awake cycling.aaasdssddsadsd

  • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

    This doesn't happen to me ... ever. I check my battery stats every handful of days, and I've never seen anything abnormal from the App Store. 

    The Facebook app, OTOH...

  • Dunner87

    I have also had this issue, ever since the latest update. Before that, it wasn't nearly such a hog. It uses anywhere between 10 and 20 percent on a typical day now. Not only that, but it doesn't even work reliably. More often than not, it doesn't even download an app when I hit the button, it just sits there doing nothing (well, nothing except wasting battery).

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      YES, I forgot to mention that too. Hitting Update on a bunch of apps I was trying to update produced no results. Nothing was happening. And this has been a problem since day 1 of the Appstore.

      Have you tried scrolling? The Appstore has the worst scrolling of any app, ever. Whatever Amazon developers are doing is very-very wrong (and I know that because I've built an app and had plenty of exposure to ListViews and the right scrolling techniques).

  • raindog469

    I used Autostarts on my rooted Epic to disable every intent that was launching the Amazon App Store. It did help my battery life. Clearing AAS' 30-odd megs of data also vastly reduced the amount of time AAS spent at 100% CPU, at the cost of having to sign back in and reset my preferences.

    But you know what helped the most? Calling Sprint and saying "Hey, I'm only getting one bar at home and the Sprint Store guy said there's some 'Air rave' thing you could send me to fix it?", and then getting the Airave for free and setting it up, fixed the battery life issues on my Epic and my girl's Epic Touch instantly. I guess they can tell from their logs or whatever how often you're roaming or have no signal. (Well, maybe not anymore now that Carrier IQ is gone, but I killed CIQ on my phone pretty much immediately and they still offered me a free Airave.)

    I usually "buy" the FAOTD on Amazon's web site (using a browser in "desktop" mode, otherwise it just directs you to the app) and then choose which device to install it on when I actually have time to check it out. Since the AAS won't remotely install apps to your device like Google Play or Appbrain, I might as well use its ghetto-ness to my advantage.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I totally agree, and it really annoys me that we have this great battery reporting interface, which ends up being relatively useless. Even BetterBatteryStats isn't nearly as useful as a battery utility on Android should be.

    • Jalek

      All Sprint's customer service told me is that I can cancel my service, they didn't even offer to sell me any device. I just never use the cell phone at home, it drops every call within 30 seconds or so and has for 19 months. 5 more to go and I can get a service that works.

  • Cuvis the Conqueror

    I use a HTC G2, and not only did Amazon Appstore kill my battery, it also caused frequent slowdowns and freezing. Like you, I'm much happier without it.

  • BrianBreniser

    Sorry dude, but your OS should not take more battery than your Screen (neither should the app store). If it really is, then you are getting royally screwed. But for the most part manufacturer shove a lot of crap in the "android OS" section of battery usage (to save the embarrassment of their own services showing up in the top ten, that puts blame on Android, even though its not its fault). On my nexus S battery consumption the screen first and android system about 2-3 more down, but my "android OS" is the last on my list, and usually doesn't make an appearance in the top ten or so. My screen is usually 2x-3x times my next lowest app, which is usually the app I've used all day (Google reader or something usually takes the cake here, when i'm using it)

    So the Amazon app store, but also other software on your phone is hogging your battery. Can't say for sure of course, but just getting rid of your Amazon store might not fix the problem if that list is correct. 

    • Simon Belmont

      Agreed. Also, well said.

      In fact seeing Android OS in the list helps me to determine when an app is misbehaving because it's making some crazy amount of calls to the OS and using copious amounts of CPU time. This happened two weeks ago with a widget I'd installed. After the developer fixed it, the Android OS line item disappeared. Cheers.

  • strra

    anyone else think this story was about amazon killing off the app store? (i came here from twitter) lol...

    • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com/ Cody Toombs

      I did too...As the page was loading I was already preparing an I-told-you-so comment.  Of course, I wasn't disappointed to see this was the real subject either.

  • Evil_Finger

    my daughters phone (epic 4g OG)  had the same problem (watch dog freaking out every 20 min). I uninstalled and re installed the amazon app store and all has been good for about a week. 

  • tB

    I have it & have tons of apps from it, it's never been a bother & on a good day I get anywhere from 18-22 hours, with moderately heavy use (sans Calls)

  • moelsen8

    artem, i'm with you man.  permanently uninstalled amazon appstore for the same exact reason a month or two ago.  one day i noticed it was taking 10-20% of my battery, and from there i kept noticing it.  you add that to the frustration with the horrible notification sh!t going on at the time (before it was fixed.... it was Fn ridiculous), and I just was done.  and i'm very happy without it.  collecting the FAOTD was an addiction at that point.  but even before i let it go, i'd rather buy and have the apps i really like and use on google play since they felt more "official".  it's like where the android market was 2 years ago but with the added headache of being a second market.  i'm glad some others see it too.

  • http://twitter.com/Nimchip Xavier A. Velez

    Mine isn't anywhere near the top either...

  • http://gplus.to/ShawnStrong Shawn Strong

    I'm going to uninstall it tonight and see if I notice a difference through tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

  • Modnet

    dont use 3g connecting ... try the 2g .. you have weak signal ..

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Thanks but I'd rather shoot myself in the face right away instead. Hell, Sprint 3G in the Bay Area is about as good as 2G on other networks. Why am I still with them!? A 12-year commitment is hard to break, I wish they didn't have unlimited data so that I could switch to Verizon or AT&T already. I have the AT&T 3G/HSPA+/LTE hotspot, and it's magnificent.

      • fixxmyhead

        Dude unlimited data at dial up speeds or limited data and ten times faster -__- I think the choice is obvious. I don't think u would even hit like 3gigs on sprints shitty network if u tried.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          The only reason I'm still hanging in is the promise of LTE and blanketing the whole 3G footprint with LTE by the end of 2013. That's going to be the time to be on Sprint.

  • http://twitter.com/YanksMitchell91 Marlon Mitchell

    I had the same problem with the Amazon app store, if it felt more intergrated then i wouldn't mind but the fact is Play store handles everything much better. Forget the free app, 9/10 times its not worth it.

  • Dmitry Chorine

    there is a bug w/ amazon appstore, but i find it if you re-install it it starts acting normal again, i think mainly its all depends on how many apps you have installed from amazon, if you have very few it'll be ok, if you have a lot then it gets slower over time and uses more cpu and such...

  • fixxmyhead

    I should uninstall it too not cuz of the battery but cuz I haven't used it in like 3 months cuz all the free app of the day are complete garbage.

  • Amazon App Store Sucks

    I am glad someone finally caught on to this and wrote about it. I couldn't figure out why my phone was so damn slow. It would take a minute to unlock, or switch apps, etc. One time it took 1.5 minutes to bring up the camera. I finally put "Diagnosis" on my phone and put the level to display processes at 40% CPU or greater. Non-stop the Amazon Venezia app came up... all the time... I finally uninstalled it and my phone is back to normal. Who the heck coded that POS?

  • http://twitter.com/dilinkuint jonathan

    nothing on my end.. i got the galaxy nexus gsm from google and its not even coming up at all... so i guess its not using any of ma battery life or the cpu..

  • Freak4Dell

    Meh. Doesn't seem to do anything to my battery usage.

    The free apps have pretty much sucked for the past few months, though. I guess they just offered good apps the first couple of months to draw people in, and now they're just offering junk. I still "buy" them, but I don't install them.

  • UmangKedia

    Try Callibrating the battery and then again use Amazon Appstore!

  • Batteryman

    i have to say my battery graphic looks better than that after 2 DAYS on a charge.

  • http://twitter.com/Dave_BG Dave Bg

    Completely true. I always remove apps that run in the background. Cant stand them. And those that restart even after being killed are the worst!

    Use autostarts to clean and then some Advanced task killer but some are so persistent i have to uninstall them.

  • chlo1ber

    Others have mentioned it, but while there definitely seems to be a problem with the Amazon Appstore, the real drain comes from Android OS - it should never be that high.
    Now you have uninstalled the App Store I take it: do you still have battery problems (and is Android OS still that high)?

    Just wondering.

    I'm not sure when or why Android OS takes so much CPU cycles, it's really strange. I've had it on every phone now and then and only a reboot fixed it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/apoapostolov Apostol Apostolov

    Root. Install Titanium Backup. Freeze Amazon Appstore, unfreeze once in a while to check the free app for the day. Use widgets or RSS to keep track what's free to avoid once a day unfreeze/freeze. The whole process takes roughly 5-10 seconds. 

    • blunden

      Or he can just use the "pm disable" command without root which is probably what Titanium Backup does anyway. :)

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        Same answer as before.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I did that, but apps that use the Amazon Appstore use it to perform license checks and stop working if they can't. I already get email notifications about apps of the day, I didn't even open the app.

  • http://profiles.google.com/fahadayaz Fahad Ayaz

    If you're rooted, why don't you try "freezing" the app in Titanium Backup when you don't need it? I'm from the UK, so I don't really use the app anyway.

    • http://twitter.com/Dave_BG Dave Bg

       Why would you freeze something that you do not use? Apps that stay running even when you say to them to close deserve complete uninstall.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      See other answers that deal with this suggestion - basically, license checks in Amazon-installed apps need the Amazon Appstore app to be present and unfrozen.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      See other answers that deal with this suggestion - basically, license checks in Amazon-installed apps need the Amazon Appstore app to be present and unfrozen.

  • http://twitter.com/shakerya Aash

    Artem, you aren't on ICS yet?

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Waiting for ICS any day now from Sprint (I want to stick with rooted stock).

  • Jammer

    Not only was my battery life affected, but on my DROID 2 I noticed a decrease in performance too.

  • Jammer

    I removed the app store months ago.

  • http://twitter.com/strifejester Justin Ellenbecker

    Completely agree with you I did the same thing.  I had written an article for my blog and when I reached out to Amazon for comment they never replied so it went unpublished.  Kind of wished I would have now.  In 6 hours of my phone being on over 15% of overall battery usage was the app store.  All I did was open it in the morning to see what the free app was then my phone sat mostly idle on my desk for the next 6 hours.  On my Gnex my battery was at 65% percent after those 6 hours.

  • Eric Garcia

    Same thing happens on my Galaxy Nexus...having widgets open from apps installed from amazon kills my battery...I'm still contemplating uninstalling it. I've been hoping for a fix for a wile.

    • Eric Garcia

      I think when you have widgets, it has to run that check every time the widget updates so that makes the appstore run making it take up a huge portion of you battery.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        That could be the case, though the only widget I can think of that had anything to do with an Amazon app is Gentle Alarm, which I installed from the Play Store.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        That could be the case, though the only widget I can think of that had anything to do with an Amazon app is Gentle Alarm, which I installed from the Play Store.

  • Havoc70

    i have the Amazon appstore installed on my phone and the store almost never shows up in my list. My primary offender is always the display

    • Warlike1919

      Same here, have Amazon app store and it hardly shows up in my list as well

  • Ryan B

    About six weeks back, I was running into the exact same problem, with the app wildly running out of control. I tried using Watchdog to kill it, but didn't have much success. I eventually just logged out for a few weeks (there's a semi-pricey app that's been given away that's been given away that I depend on, and already paid for once before it hit Google Play, and really don't want to pay for a second time. The version I bought before never updated with Play, though I get the reminders. Using the free Amazon version fixed that problem for me). At least for me, Amazon seems to have gotten the bug that caused its Appstore to behave in runaway fashion stomped out.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It could be related to you logging out, and it could start happening again. We're not really sure, but since I have the latest version, I'm skeptical.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      It could be related to you logging out, and it could start happening again. We're not really sure, but since I have the latest version, I'm skeptical.

  • yankeesusa

    Ive never had an issue with the amazon app store. Its never on my battery usage list. I wonder if it has something to do with a specific app or due to a certain manufacturer. Either way it doesn't mess my phone up. I'm keeping my amazon app store.

  • PaulAtreides

    Gave that store the axe in February. It's not worth the free app of the day(that was the draw for me). The interface stinks to hell, it's clumsy, takes up plenty of memory(I have the EVO 4G), constantly running in my background. Could it be a Amazon/Sprint thing? Also, could the Android process be that high because of syncing services? I disabled a lot of my auto-syncs and noticed some battery improvement(not much as I mentioned I have the EVO 4G still). 

  • http://www.facebook.com/archercc Ryan Stewart

    I ditched mine too. I dont recall anything specific regarding battery stats but it was more just a clean up.  I got rid of mine when you couldnt turn off update checking/notifications and it was annoying.  I also didnt quite like the idea of an app that had to validate all apps every time they are used.

    Plus it just resulted in a ton of crap in my app drawer that i never used so I did the same.  Bought the few useful ones and moved back to the Android market.  If anything it shows that having a temp period on "for pay" apps would probably sell a lot.  Letting me use a full featured app makes me more likely to find features worth paying for.  Maybe a month trial period, then I have to pay to keep using it.

  • smackinthemiddle

    It sounds like you have a bunch of misconfigured "helper" apps, you should just wipe the phone without all the other stuff and run Amazon and see if the issue persists, Android has great memory management by default, I think you'd be surprised by the result.

  • Simon Belmont

    Wow. A lot of action in the comments here. Just for the record, I've never seen the Amazon Appstore in my battery stats at all. I wonder why it's like this for some people.

    Perhaps the more apps you have installed, the more it has to run to ping Amazon to validate their use? I totally agree with Artem on the 22%+ battery usage just from the Amazon Appstore itself, as being unacceptable. I've just not experienced it. Neither has my wife.

    • Simon Belmont

      By the by, I have noticed the Amazon Appstore RUNNING once in a while in my running processes list (not battery stats). But it was only to tell me I had a new app to install or an update for an existing one. After I dismissed it, it would be gone from the running processes list and even leaving it running never affected my battery life adversely. Hmm.

      I'm not shooting down Artem's claims here. Just relaying my own experiences. Perhaps the latest update has caused these issues for some people. Amazon should be looking into this though.

      • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

        My guess is the Amazon app runs a license check service and fires up on demand when an app requests a license check or when you start it manually (or for notifications if you have them enabled).

  • Stephen Taylor

    I use an HTC Amaze (stock; Gingerbread 2.3.4) and normally have, it never appearing on my battery stats. At most it's taken up 2% and that is *rare*.

    I have purchased (as in paid) multiple apps from Amazon and have downloaded 'tons' of FAOTD as well.

  • Stephen Taylor

    I use an HTC Amaze (stock; Gingerbread 2.3.4) and normally have, it never appearing on my battery stats. At most it's taken up 2% and that is *rare*.

    I have purchased (as in paid) multiple apps from Amazon and have downloaded 'tons' of FAOTD as well.

  • http://twitter.com/grundo xe

    i dont use facebook app i cant uninstall and eats a lot of memory too

  • http://twitter.com/grundo xe

    i dont use facebook app i cant uninstall and eats a lot of memory too

  • Jay

    agreed.  you're doing it wrong.  i've had the app store installed since day 1 on both my incredible and rezound, and it's not keeping my phone awake, nor is it draining my battery.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCERGZBEMMYO7SY23NYDXSLOIM db., heyu

    sadly, I dumped it too, and the free apps don't work after the uninstall.

  • http://twitter.com/iBolski Ivan Samuelson

    I don't see it. Of course, I also use the Autostart app to set the Amazon Appstore app from running. But even before that, I never saw it chew up THAT much battery if any at all.

  • Aeires

    I turned off the notifications and now the Appstore doesn't even show up in the battery usage screen.  My Epic Touch 4G is killer on battery use, hardly a dent five hours after unplugging it this morning.

  • onlavu

    guys, I am OK. I have SE Xperia Neo and Amazon Appstore installed (yes, its still running), but it seems that it doesnt affect my battery at all. So its really individual

  • Dana Bostick

    Have you tried "freezing" it with Titainium?  Just unfreeze when needed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-Porter/1659175609 Fred Porter

      Doesn't work unless you mean unfreeze AA everytime running an app purchased from Amazon. Apps purchased from app store won't run with Amazon app store frozen.

  • kedoin

    Do you think it has anything to do with the number of apps that need to be updated? I stopped caring about updating many of the apps in the Amazon Appstore, and I have around 60 apps that need to be updated. About 2 weeks ago I noticed the same behavior with the AppStore eating like 30% of the battery.

    Is there really no other fix than deleting the app?

  • Jake

    I, too, am increasingly annoyed by the Amazon App Store. I haven't quite seen the battery usage reported by the writer, but I hover around 4% average, which is too much considering that I only open it once in the morning for, like 30 seconds, to see what the Free App of the Day is. I haven't downloaded or updated any app from Amazon in a long time. I don't even install the Free Apps of the Day; I just go to the Amazon web site from my desktop later in the day and click "buy", so I "own" it should I decide I want to install it in the future. 

    The App Store's 4% usage on my device often equals or exceeds the usage % of other apps and services that I use constantly and for several minutes a day, like the Google Play Store, Chrome, or the Android OS, and Android System. Crazy! Especially considering that I only use it for 30 seconds a day, and I have all notifications disabled from the App Store's settings.

    Plus, the App Store has gotten really slow and cumbersome to navigate. It doesn't cleanly tell you what's new when apps are updated. It doesn't let you sort reviews by date. I'm annoyed by the App Store's "Updates Available" page always telling me to update apps that I actually installed from the Google Play Store.

    I'm uninstalling and buying just a couple of cheap apps from Play Store that I use frequently. Unfortunately, I have purchased other apps and kids' book apps from the Amazon App Store, so I'll be losing them. The one that will hurt the most is losing Logmein Ignition. I got it when it was on sale for $15 through Amazon. It will cost $30 on Play Store.

  • Mike Inman

    Even if there's no battery usage, you have to have your one-click ordering activated before most apps (any app that checks licenses, including paid apps) will run. For me, this is a huge fail, I don't want to have my wallet laying open in the tablet device that I give to my kids to play with, yes, you can turn on parental controls and block in-app purchases, but not actual app purchases.

    Until I can turn off one-click ordering, the Amazon App Store is off my devices.

  • Jalek

    17MB of phone memory, 12 for the app, 5 for data, none movable to the SD card?
    What overseas lab did they hire for this?

  • hikaruichijo

    Same problem here. Amazon App Store would routinely hog 40-50% of my CPU, and I could almost watch my battery draining while my phone burned my hand. It eventually goes back to normal but pops up at inopportune times. Usually i just kill the app store, but it comes back again on its own, and eventually will start the cpu burning once more.

    I have gotten many of the free apps from Amazon, but have few of them installed. I wish I could remove the ones I don't care about from my list! At any rate, I had an epiphany after reading this thread. One of my other major annoyances is that the notification bar almost always said I have new apps to install and/or updates. During this most recent burnout of battery, I went into the App Store app and disabled ALL notifications. The CPU usage abruptly stopped and my phone went back to normal. I wonder if the app store is waking up and comparing the list of apps you have with the list you own (since my list is rather extensive, even though I only have a handful on my phone), and this process is what's burning up the CPU and thus the battery. I'll keep an eye on it and see if that actually fixed it permanently!

    • hikaruichijo

      FYI - Stock rooted Droid 4.

  • fastforward

    I had the same problem (22%), but my solution was less drastic: I uninstalled and reinstalled appstore, and turned off notifications: now it's at 2%. Problem was that appstore hung trying to download a wifi app, likely partially caused by my app settings.

  • sudo

    I'm seeing 21% used by Amazon app store app as well. I just uninstalled.

  • prime

    I have the same problem. S2 skyrocket. I don't open the android app store anymore because it runs so slow. 25% of battery. It reaaly showed up when I upgraded to ICS.

  • Jor

    I was quite surprised when I found a 5% usage by an app I don't even use! Uninstalled!

  • RTR2011

    Who let this goofball write tech articles? Since the latest Amazon Appstore release was affecting performance and battery life, I simply reverted to an old .apk that I had backed up, earlier. Works fantastic and I didn't have to spend an extra dime.

  • speculatrix

    I find 10% ++ consistently
    This problem with current ROM and previous, as well as my previous phone.
    So it's a real problem. I am trying a permissions override program to see if I can prevent it starting up at boot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1031024741 Vern Martin

    I recently ditched all my Amazon apps, because they were always nagging me to log into the Amazon app store. As I replace them from Google Play, I found out that my apps were out of date anyway. Won't be going back to Amazon App store any time soon.

  • Terd Ferguson

    Yeah, you guys have no idea what you're doing.
    I keep mine running and 0% usage. Once in a while it may make a check online to see if there are any updates, but that's all.
    Has it affected my battery life? Hell no. Well, okay. It may use up 10 more minutes of battery life compared to if I didn't have it installed. No big deal at all.
    Amazon app store is a great app. I only use it to get free games/apps.
    For stuff I buy, I 99% of the time go through Google Play. But I keep Amazon App store for the free stuff.

    • Terd Ferguson

      Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 here, again, no usage.

    • Marc R.

      I don't have any issues as well. But seeing that this article is now 10 months old I believe that Amazon might has fixed those issues by now.

  • Justin

    Could someone help me I want my money back because I brought a app called Block Clans and it is a bad app I think it has 2-3 stars because mostly people rate it 1-2-3 stars i'm only nine years old.

  • nobody

    And how can I uninstall amazon appstore ?

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