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Apr
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Completely out of the blue Samsung has officially outed its next generation system-on-a-chip (SoC). The Exynos 4 Quad is very much what it sounds like: an updated version of the previous dual-core Exynos chip with four cores instead of two. Each core will be clocked to 1.4GHz, much like the last generation, and it is still going to be based on ARM's Cortex-A9 architecture.

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I expected that Samsung would be moving to Cortex-A15 to more adequately compete with Snapdragon S4 and its Krait cores. Perhaps the 32nm manufacturing process, High-K Gate technology, dynamic voltage control, and advanced power management in the Exynos 4 Quad will make up for that. Samsung claims the Enynos 4 Quad will pack double the processing power (maybe a little simplistic core counting) while consuming 20% less battery.

Though we didn't realize it at the time, Meizu may have blown this announcement two weeks ago with the Meizu MX Quad-Core. This device was described at the time as running atop a quad-core Exynos chip at 32nm. That certainly sounds familiar, but there is still no confirmation on the model number of the Exynos 4 Quad. At the very least, the upcoming Next Galaxy announcement just got a lot more interesting.

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Ryan Whitwam
Ryan is a tech/science writer, skeptic, lover of all things electronic, and Android fan. In his spare time he reads golden-age sci-fi and sleeps, but rarely at the same time. His wife tolerates him as few would.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1555110034 Saul Martinez

    But not on the US versions of the SIII :(((

    • Deon Davis

      Since this is based on A9 tech, If they did switch to S4 it still be comparable speed wise.  

    • Zaatour36

      how come?

    • Tommy Thompson

      That's not a guarantee. 

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      The only reason a U.S. version may not include an Exynos that I can think of is LTE compatibility, which 3 out of 4 carriers now support. I sincerely hope Exynos 4 Quad has LTE support.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1555110034 Saul Martinez

        I haven't hoped for something this badly since I was a small child. I'm a pessimist though and am used to AT&T screwing me. If the S3 doesn't get this processor I'll just get a Galaxy Note.

      • Stiggy

        I really can't imagine them not making the chip LTE compatible. It just seems like an awful business move. I would think not having it would be shooting themselves in the foot. 

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          There's still a high chance this was the case. We'll see very soon.

  • aNYthing6

    Is this version compatible with LTE?

    • Zaatour36

      I wish, other than that, it would SUCK!

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      We sent an inquiry to Samsung PR about this - if it's not, it'd be a jaw dropper.

    • http://twitter.com/anjiecai anjiecai

      nope, not compatible :/ exynos 5 is compatible with LTE though

      • http://twitter.com/anjiecai anjiecai

        jk i might be wrong, the lte radio chip is a different chip and not part of the exynos 4 SoC but i'm not 100% sure about exynos 5  SoC having it

  • TheFirstUniverseKing

    It'd be nice if it was an A15 chip, but this still sounds great.

  • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

    I wish the new Galaxy won't be called "Next Galaxy", or "Galaxy Next". I always find using the word "Next" stupid, because what happen after the "Next". That said, using "One" is also problematic -- is HTC going to call their next flagship "Two"? 

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I doubt it would be called anything with "next" in the name. I still think it'll be SGS III personally.

      • L boogie

        was wondering why the note/journal hasnt appeared on verizon (despite the stupid factor), could it be due to lte compatability issues though cant remeber which chip is powering the tab 7.7..... quite sure that quad-core chip is gonna run in a few phones/tablets before/after exynos 5 enters the scene

    • http://twitter.com/dextersgenius Dexter M

      Maybe the One X is actually a play on the number "IX" which means 9 - the 9th major Android flagship of HTC?

      1. Dream2. Hero3. Magic4. Legend5. Desire6. Desire HD7. EVO 3D8. Sensation9. One X

      ?

  • MrSimtang

    Nah, they wouldn't have gone with the dual core Exynos A15, because from a marketing standpoint, 'quad-core' just sounds more powerful than 'dual-core' even though the dual core A15 would blitz the quad-core A9. 

    Consumers wouldn't understand how a dual-core A15 would be more powerful than a quad-core A9, so it's just easier to stick the quad-core processor so consumers think it's more powerful. 
    If the S3 had the Exynos A15 dual-core, people comparing the One X and SGS3 will look at CPU and immediately assume the One X is more powerful.

    • Tommy Thompson

      Unless you are in the United States where the One X is dual-core.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      You definitely have a point there. Any chance Sammy's fucking with us and will announce a quad-core Exynos 5 just for the S 3? :P

      • MrSimtang

        lol I doubt that. I don't think the A15 Exynos 5450 are even sampling just yet, let alone in production.

        But yeah, if they somehow managed to get the 5450 in the SGS3, it'd annihilate anything on the market in 2012, guaranteed.

        But the cost of the 5450 would be very high compared to the 4412 and from a business standpoint, consumers wouldn't know the benefits of the A15 quad over the A9 quad, so there'd be no point of spending that extra $$ getting the 5450 in the phone just so tech geeks like us can drool over benchmarks.

        I'm sure the quad A9 @ 1.4Ghz is a beastly SoC and will be an ample performer for the phone.

        • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

          OK, now I'm confused. The video shows 4212, which is also supposed to be quad-core. What the hell is going on... is it 4212 or 4412, and does 4412 still exist?

          • http://twitter.com/anjiecai anjiecai

            4412 is quad core and 4212 is dual core, probably from an earlier prototype version of the gs3 

          • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

            Thanks. Yeah, I figured it all out later - the video confused me at first.

        • http://twitter.com/anjiecai anjiecai

          their quadcore A15 chip is 5250 which was rumored to power the tab 11.6 and rumored to power the note 10.1 (thus the stop of manufacturing). If the 4412/4212 is in gs3 i will be disappointed. A15 is such an improvement over A9 :( 

          • MrSimtang

            "If the 4412/4212 is in gs3 i will be disappointed."
            Well prepare to be disappointed. Taken from Samsung's press release: http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/25/samsung-announces-1-4ghz-exynos-4-quad-as-basis-for-galaxy-s3/

            "Already in production, the Exynos 4 Quad is scheduled to be adopted first into Samsung's next Galaxy smartphone that will officially be announced in May."

            So that's straight from the horse's mouth. The next Galaxy smartphone, to be announced in May (next week, May 3rd to be exact) will adopt the Exynos 4412 quad-core SoC. 

            I agree that the dual-core A15 chip would have been better, and is also in production I believe, but I can see why Samsung went with the 4412 quad-core. From a marketing perspective, it's easy for customers to equate quad-core to being more powerful over dual-core.

            It's the same as how a lot of people just assume a higher megapixel camera = better quality camera. Sounds silly, and playing to the public's ignorance sounds like they're deliberately giving us a weaker product, but that's how it it.

            In all honesty, I'm sure the Exynos 4412 is an absolute power house. Two years ago we were happy with 1Ghz single-core processors, now we're getting quad 1.4Ghz. Even if it scores a little lower on benchmarks than other chips, I can live with that.

          • Gabba

            5450 is quad core, which won't be ready until late 2012/early 2013.  5250 is the dual core that should be ready about now

      • L boogie

        gotta save something like that for the galaxy note 2 or gtab 11.6 or galaxy s 4

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    "20% less power" - I can get behind that.

  • http://twitter.com/anjiecai anjiecai

    WHY!!! WHY NO EXYNOS 5250 D:<

  • Omar

    I want that chip on the galaxy note for t-mobile im moving from sprint to there

  • http://twitter.com/TheGermian Germian

    Interesting, but nothing shocking. Meizu already spoiled the Quad Core 'surprise'.

    I don't know what to think about the overclocked Mali-400. I mean, after the Galaxy Nexus I'm a little careful with overclocked GPUs in phones even though it shouldn't have any problems...

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Indeed, it's weird how they let Meizu do that, though it could have been out of Samsung's hands.

  • http://meatcastle.com/ Youre My Boy Bloo

    I honestly don't know if it is supposed to be pronounced "Zy-nos" or "Exi-nos" but to be honest, no matter what it is supposed to be, I will not call it "Exi-nos".

    That is stupid.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      I think it's Exi-nos and I refuse to pronounce it as Zy-nos myself.

    • Tommy Thompson

      Watch the video. They pronounce it Exi-nos

      • http://meatcastle.com/ Youre My Boy Bloo

        I know, that is why I wrote the comment. They are clearly wrong. I have dropped a line to Samsung corporate, but have not heard back yet.

        Perhaps I should not have used the Babel Fish Korean translator.

  • abhele

    umm is there a mistake in the video it says exynos 5 when the car pic comes?

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      Looks like the video is more generic than we originally thought - it goes through Exynos 5, Exynos 4 dual 4210, Exynos 4 dual 4212, and Exynos 4 quad 4412.

  • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

    OK, I'm thoroughly confused now.

    4210 was the dual-core that's in the S2.

    4212 was the dual-core that was announced last Sept: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/09/29/samsung-announces-next-generation-of-mobile-processors-with-the-1-5ghz-dual-core-exynos-4212/.

    4412 was supposed to be quad-core, so we all thought this was it.

    Now the video shows 4212 quad-core... what? Is the quad-core also 4212? So 4212 dual and 4212 quad? Or is this a 4412?

    Damn you, Samsung, for not releasing processor numbers!!

  • Gulrez_mehdi55

    If only Sammy could put exynos 5 series in gs3 it wide be easily enough to powerset a 1080p display ...

  • Gulrez_mehdi55

    Would*

  • fixxmyhead

    I really don't care if it doesn't have lte. Hspa+ baby all the way. Better get this phone T-Mobile this s2 needs a refresh

  • Lou

    Here's some food for thought.

    We know there are currently 2 Versions of the SIII that will be coming out (as shown in the Kies leak). What if the First 2 SIII are designed for just the GSM Carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile) and perhaps later on the Exynos 5 will be added to the LTE version of the SIII?

    Its not like this is a crazy idea, in fact we see this type of thing happen all the time!

    Have faith people.

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  • Freak4Dell

    20% power savings is great, but I can't help but wonder how much efficiency they could have gained by leaving out 2 of the cores.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      4212 is the dual-core 32nm you're thinking about. While I'd like to see power consumption comparisons between 4212 and 4412, quad-cores could end up being more efficient, and a lot depends on what you're doing while measuring as well as software support for power savings.

    • http://www.androidpolice.com/ Artem Russakovskii

      4212 is the dual-core 32nm you're thinking about. While I'd like to see power consumption comparisons between 4212 and 4412, quad-cores could end up being more efficient, and a lot depends on what you're doing while measuring as well as software support for power savings.

  • Himmatsj

     I think Samsung will have something in store for us at the Galaxy SIII launch. I really think so. They're gonna surprise us....

  • Mayukh Sarkar

    never preferred an exynos over snapdragon