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Despite the fact that Samsung has said almost nothing about the upcoming Galaxy SIII, the rumor mill is churning so hard it threatens to break free from its foundation. The latest rumor about Sammy's upcoming flagship is pretty great – DDaily, a Korean IT news publication, is reporting (via anonymous sources) that Samsung's Galaxy SIII may have a "secret weapon" – a built-in inductive charger.

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While the Galaxy SIII wouldn't be the first device to come standard with inductive charging (remember Palm's Touchstone?), DDaily reports that Samsung's wireless charging plans go a step further – evidently, the SIII wouldn't even need to be touching the charging mat to begin charging. The publication indicates that the device will be able to charge from between one and two meters away. This detail sounds pretty sensational, and is definitely worth taking with a grain of salt. It would also appear that Samsung is still trying to decide whether to include charging mats in the SIII's box, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the mats sold separately.

So, how likely is this rumor? As The Verge rightly points out, Samsung has historically been in favor of "forward-looking connectivity," introducing Kies Air for wireless syncing, and slapping an MHL port on the Galaxy SII. It seems likely that Sammy could include inductive charging in the upcoming flagship, but whether Sammy has the technology to enable inductive charging from 2 meters away is another question. As with all rumors, however, we can only wait (and hope) for official word one way or the other.

Source: DDaily Via The Verge

Liam Spradlin
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  • Aaron

    How this is possible is beyond me.....

    Mind=Blown

    P.S. I expect an article on it when a phone with this tech comes out ;)

    • dork

      "A phone with tech" has been out for years and a lot of phones can be turned into inductive charging..

      • Aaron

        "this tech". As in, the tech in the article. The technology of inductive charging from that distance.

        • Aviator

          Inductive charging runs VW assembly plants and LARGE machines. The Palm Pre/Pixi/Touchpad did and still does a fantastic job of inductive charging. Somebody is sittin on the patent and maybe reluctant to share.

  • http://turbofool.com TurboFool

    The Palm Pre didn't include inductive charging out of the box. It was optional. Yes, it wasn't a third-party add-on and was planned from release, but it was still not included.

    And I can't fathom the distance charging is remotely true. Not by a longshot. Standard mat support, maybe.

  • http://cmsjr123.com cmsjr123

    You know That is complete BS. This was a article for jokes. The amount of energy and amps you would need to shove through the air waves would be amazingly huge. not only that energizing the air waves? 1 amp is all it takes for electricity to kill a human... -.-

    • Xavier

      you apparently haven't heard of tesla's wireless electricity?

      • http://cmsjr123.com cmsjr123

        So your saying my electrical Safety book is wrong? the one you have to have to take the classes need to for a apprenticeship? ANd yes I have heard of tesla, a man who invented far more things than you think he did. Like the radio waves.

        My point was that with current technology you would have to basically charge the airspace. And tesla's wireless electricity wasn't meant to be used 3 foot from the coil which would kill you if you were the ground.. Not only that the interference it would cause other devices would be pretty damn high. Even if you used a magnetic method, ionizing or other method some device would be obstructed.

        • Deltaechoe

          Tesla did not invent radio waves, they're a natural occurrence just fyi. The earth generates a cacophony of radio waves and you can pick them up with a VLF.

          Tesla is instead part of a controversy over patents for radio wave based telegraphy systems (between himself and Marconi), not the radio waves. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but it really bothers me when people act like they know everything when they clearly have not done their research.

        • http://gthing.net sam

          @Deltaechoe What are you talking about? Who said anything about radio waves?

        • andddlay

          @Sam cmsjr mentioned it

        • Gabba

          @ Deltaechoe: Are you fucking retarded? Of course cmsjr wasn't implying he invented radio waves; it's obvious he meant the discovery. Go back to your Wikipedia page; adults are talking

        • Mat

          Inductive charging has nothing to do with "charging the airspace." An electromagnet creates a magnetic field and this causes a current to flow through a nearby coiled wire, generating an opposing magnetic field. I would think that's something you'd need to know for your apprenticeship too... So if your electrical safety book is saying that a magnet is going to harmfully "charge the airspace," then yes it's wrong and you may want to find somewhere else to take your apprentice classes.

        • Deltaechoe

          @Gabba, if he meant discovery he should have said so, but even then that would be an incorrect statement. Heinrich Hertz was the first person to document the discovery of radio waves and this is a well known fact. Why else would frequency be measured in Hertz, it wasn't just some arbitrary word.

          So before you stoop so low as to participate in vulgar name calling, I would suggest you do your research too. That way, maybe you can present a comment with a representation of some iota of intelligent thought

        • Deltaechoe

          Also if you want to go one step further James Clerk Maxwell predicted the existence of radio waves about 20 years before Hertz actually made his discovery. Radio waves really do have a fascinating history.

    • Nick Coad

      You would have to have an extremely high voltage device to kill someone at 1A, way higher than any device we're talking about.

  • spydie

    not very likely. It does require "near field" for inductive charging to work. If it were true, it would be able to charge inductively from anything it was near with current flowing in it, like your house wiring! LOL

  • Tkun

    This would be incredible if real. I've never been a fan of charging pads, since they basically seem to be even more limiting than cords (you can't take the device off the pad and still have it charge if, for example, you had to take a call), so if this is legit and Samsung executes it well, I'd be extremely impressed. This wouldn't be merely an amazing feat for smartphones, it'd be an amazing feat for portable technology in general.

  • ChrisR

    I'd hate to think of the EM levels emitted by a device that could remotely charge from that distance. It would be like living under HT power lines.

  • Havocoid

    That would be the shit!!! It also would take a couple years before Apple would do this with the iPhone... And until the iPhone does, the Apple fanboys will shit on the feature and call it a gimmick...lol More power to Sammy if they can get it done!!! If not the SGSIII, I hope the SGSIIII has it... Got the SGSII Epic as of now, and wont upgrade till next year...

    • http://twitter.com/#!/dextersgenius Shiv

      If there is an SGS4, it would be numbered "IV" and not "IIII". :)

      • Havocoid

        Ha Ha got me... bazinga...lol honest mistake...

  • http://twitter.com/Serotheo Simon

    An Included inductive charging mat would wake this device so much more awesome, if they don't include one you can bet that some of the would be sales of the charging mat going to 3rd parties for a cheaper price.

    • http://twitter.com/Serotheo Simon

      make not wake*

      charging mat are going*

  • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com Cody Toombs

    First, I love the idea of the SGSIII coming with some kind of non-connected charging...it's a feature I've wanted to see in a ton of phones and I've often been shocked it never came as a feature in the iPhone.

    Second, the technical aspects of what is claimed are completely absurd (actually borders on insulting). While it's not necessarily dangerous to humans to do this (if done magnetically instead of ionizing the air), it's rarely safe for the electronics that aren't designed to handle it (which is why similar things usually can't charge more than a couple of centimeters away). Additionally, the more range it has the more juice it requires, which means very high charging cost. The final catch, most of these mechanisms are designed to only start charging a device if and when they detect a signal (usually something like an RFID chip), but most options there would suffer severely at that range with that type of interference...
    tl;dr version: It's possible but completely implausible and unaffordable given today's tech.

    • http://codytoombs.wordpress.com Cody Toombs

      Just to add a reference (for anybody who cares)
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonant_inductive_coupling

      Resonant Inductive Coupling is about the most efficient form of Inductive Charging I could find (not an expert, anybody with more info is encouraged to correct me). The technology isn't new by any stretch, but the physics of it are pretty solid and probably aren't going to be defeated very easily. The highest efficiency achieved (outside of absolutely ideal conditions) isn't above 80% at 10 cm. I'm not qualified to work out efficiency loss, but the drop off is logarithmic, meaning that it drops VERY fast as you get further away. If the transmitter is large enough, that could help some, but still not much can be done inside of the phone. Logically, at even 1 meter, you probably can't achieve above 1% efficiency with otherwise perfect lab conditions.

      tl;dr version
      The cost of charging your phone from empty to full would be measured in dollars, it would take multiple days to accomplish a charge (if it's off and can be MacGuyvered into trickle charging), and it's almost certainly not going to fit within US regulations for EM radiation. Unless there's a better method, I'd call that part of the rumor (the 2 meter thing) BUSTED ;)

      Disclaimer: This isn't what I do for a living, I'm not an expert. Go consult an expert or an Internet Troll if you want somebody to be sure of what they are saying.

  • Bryan

    It could be possible...There was a lot of buzz at CES this year about it.

    http://ces.cnet.com/8301-33373_1-57356984/wireless-charging-goes-further-into-tablets-cars-the-home/

    • http://gthing.net sam

      Wow - I wasn't buying it until I read that link. It probably still can't be very far from the mat, but that's impressive. I wonder how it works?

  • biker bill

    Not a secret anymore now is it?

  • http://www.weblogku.com Azam

    This would be interesting if they really implement it.

    • Tee

      Let's not forget Wii's remote controls. They have been able to get charged wirelessly for a 'long' time...

  • Waruna

    Hope this would not end up as a rumour !

  • http://www.androidpolice.com John

    Board of waiting now... they need to put an end to the stupid rumors or no matter how great a phone when it comes out it won't live up to anyone's expectations...

  • Joe

    I think I can smell a new form of cancer brewing.

  • Zaeem S.

    Such technology would render the Galaxy S3 an out-of-my-budget phone. Sad. :-/

    • http://h4r7.me/ Michael H.

      It's likely going to have the same price regardless if it has 2-meter-away charging or not.

      Features are only an excuse to have a higher price, not a sum of the cost of the features included.

  • Widget21

    Well...glad you've mentioned another rumour because I have a few too...apparently the SGSIII will have the ability to cook you breakfast providing you could afford the tiny motorised arms as they will be made available as accessories..which will cost an ..arm and a leg....hmm..speaking of legs....the SGSIII...

  • Andrew – Des Moines

    I wonder how much of an adder WiTricity would be on a phone -- and how much weight it would add. I think there was a rumor Apple would have this for the 4S as well.

  • Danny
    • glitchsys

      wtf does that have to do with the GS3 having a wireless induction charging system?

  • Awesome Sauce

    my samsung nexus s xan barely stream music and pick up 3g in NYC!?!?!? my samsung phone cant even switch between 3g and 4g without dropping data for 30 seconds!?!?! now youre telling me we dont even need to be plugged in to get a charge, we just have to be meters away from some magical power source?? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? Wouldnt there be emergency devices like things in hospitals that save lives before a Samsung Galaxy S3with 4g LTE?? Sounds pretty ridic.

  • AC

    Inductive charging is one of those things where until you have it, you never really realized just how convenient it is. The Touchstone charger for my Touchpad made using a USB cable on a trip last weekend seem like going back to the Stoneage.

  • http://droidsamurai.blogspot.com PixelSlave

    I hate to ruin the fun, but let's just assume it can be done -- just like any wireless/cordless technology, its wired big brother will always be faster and more efficient. Wifi still can't match the stability and speed of a Cat6 Ethernet cable (let's not compete with a fiber optic cable.) If you are complaining the times it takes to charge your phone with a wire being too long today, chances are you won't want to charge your phone over the air.

  • glitchsys

    Truthfully I doubt it can be done; not yet anyways. In the off event it could be done, I'll bet it either sucks up a lot of power, doesn't have nearly the range we think it does, or is very expensive. Either way it's then doubtful that they'd put this technology into their next phone. I believe that IF Samsung did have this technology, big IF, they would be doing press releases left and right about it, it'd be an amazing technology, a huge breakthrough, and they wouldn't go and silently add it on as a feature to a phone. I mean the technology is already debated whether it's possible or not or whether it's feasible or not, assuming it was possible, it was feasible, it'd be ground breaking news; something to make headlines about right? So why would they go silently tack it on as an added 'feature', one of many, to a Galaxy S III? It'd be spotlight stealing. "Oh by the way, this amazing groundbreaking technological breakthrough we just figured out will be one of many features on our next phone, no big deal."

  • Skitz
  • http://twitter.com/Roh_Mish Rohan Mishra

    Check it, it will be 2 cm away.