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After much debate, several upset comments, and a number of good points made - I've decided to rewrite the review of the Toshiba Thrive. Admittedly, the first review lacked the kind of thorough objectivity we usually try to achieve when we look at new hardware, and it's not fair to readers to make a jump to the conclusion without a complete analysis first. I apologize.

The Toshiba Thrive has been a darling of the Android community since it was unveiled way back in January at CES in Las Vegas, when it was still just the young, nameless "Toshiba Tablet." Fast-forward 7 months, it's July, and the Thrive is finally here - but has it matured well? We'll answer that question as we plod through the review.

And now, here's some specs, because we like numbers:

Toshiba Thrive Specifications

  • 10.1-inch IPS LCD display
  • NVIDIA Tegra 2 (AP20H) dual-core processor
  • 1GB RAM
  • 8/16/32GB internal storage (depending on model)
  • Weight: 1.7lbs
  • Thickness: 15mm
  • 5MP rear camera, 2MP front
  • Full-size USB and HDMI-out ports, plus miniUSB port
  • SD card slot (with SDXC support)
  • Android 3.1 Honeycomb (via OTA update).

So, now you've got an idea of just how the Thrive stacks up on the hardware side. But how does it make you feel? Let's break it down.

The Good:

  • Just as fast as any Honeycomb tablet you'll find on the market today.
  • Plays all those nifty Tegra 2-optimized games.
  • Removable battery (replacements are $75)
  • LogMeIn Ignition (clarification: 30-day trial)
  • HDMI, USB, miniUSB, SD card slot

The Not So Good:

  • Too thick. (15mm- thicker than a XOOM.)
  • Too heavy. (1.7lbs - heavier than a XOOM.)
  • Display viewing angles aren't fantastic (but this is true of most tablets, it seems).
  • Battery cover is difficult to remove, and difficult to put back on.
  • Really difficult to justify over other Honeycomb tablets currently available.

The Software

Alright, as much as I'd like to write what would amount to yet another cleverly guised review of the Honeycomb OS  instead of the actual product, if you want to read about Honeycomb, you should probably read our XOOM review. It'll give you a much better idea of what Honeycomb is, how it works, and why it's so much different from the Android OS you'll find on your phone. So, with that in mind, let's talk about the software Toshiba adds to the equation.

There are a few Toshiba card games, a Toshiba-branded app store, and a few other relatively mundane sponsored applications (Kaspersky tablet security, LogMeIn ignition). You do get Swype - so if you're a fan of the finger-flinging keyboard, the Thrive does come equipped with it, though it's not enabled by default.

There is one app Toshiba put on the Thrive that's actually quite useful - a built-in file manager with tabs that allows you to easily switch from browsing your internal storage, SD card, or USB device. This makes transferring files a lot easier, and the tabs actually make this a little more intuitive than something like Astro (which is a great file management app) when you have multiple storage locations to browse.

Aside from that, it's Android 3.1 - there's not too much else to discuss about the Thrive on the software side.

Performance

As I stated in the good/bad bullet-points, the Thrive performs just like every other Tegra 2 tablet on the market. With most manufacturers using variations of the Tegra 2 platform in their Honeycomb devices, it's hard to find a tablet that stands out in this regard. Honeycomb buzzes along relatively quickly, homescreens swipe with ease, and apps install quickly. Honeycomb's hardware-accelerated browser remains a delight to use, as do the various (though few) Honeycomb-optimized Google apps.

Boot up times are quick (not that you're likely to turn it off very often). Game performance is what you'd expect from Tegra 2 - the Thrive handles Dungeon Defenders quite easily, and it looks good doing it. Again, with so little to distinguish the Thrive from the other Honeycomb tablets on the market in regard to processing horsepower, performance is difficult to benchmark in a comparative way. Pick up any Tegra 2 Honeycomb tablet, and you'll get roughly the same experience - and that experience is a good one.

The Ports: USB, miniUSB, HDMI (and the SD card slot)

This is the Thrive's marketing bread and butter - its many ports. You get a full-sized USB 2.0 port, a miniUSB, and HDMI-out, along with a full-size SD card slot. Let's talk about what these ports do.

The full-sized USB allows you to do a couple of things. First, it allows USB host support for things like keyboards or other powered USB accessories. It works in that regard, but it's not unique anymore - Android 3.1 enabled host support via microUSB (or standard USB), meaning any tablet with such a port and an adapter cable now allows the use of such devices.

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The second use for that USB port is obviously going to be thumb drives and external storage devices (think external hard drive). For a thumb drive, this is pretty convenient, and while it can be accomplished with an adapter via microUSB on other devices, most people probably don't own such a cable. Combined with Toshiba's File Manager app, this is pretty handy.

Next up is miniUSB - which really doesn't need much explanation. This one is going to be useful for transferring photos directly from your camera or camcorder, but probably not too much else. It saves you from buying an adapter, like all the Thrive's ports, but they do come at a price, and we'll talk about that later.

Finally, HDMI. HDMI allows you to mirror whatever your tablet is displaying onto a secondary device (eg, your HDTV). This can be used for viewing photos, watching videos you've recorded using the Thrive's cameras, and just for satisfying that inherent urge to use an electronic device on a bigger screen. As for the SD card slot, I think that one explains itself (and yes - it works).

Battery And Accessories

The Thrive is the first Android tablet to have a consumer-friendly removable battery. But I'd describe more as "consumer-neutral." Taking off the Thrive's rear cover is a pain, and putting it back on is even more so. Let me put it this way - you won't be doing any 5-second swaps like you might on an Android phone.

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Battery life has been below average. Not great, but not terrible. I get about 2 days of heavy use, which is a lot less than you'll get out of a Galaxy Tab 10.1, but the battery is also a lot, lot smaller. The Thrive's 6-cell Li-ion has a capacity of only 2030mAh - compared to over 6800mAh on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - that's a third the size. Is the replacement factor worth the clear loss in battery life? I didn't think so, but for some, this has been a major draw to the Thrive.

The Thrive also has a bunch of nifty accessories, like a kickstand folio, a media dock, rear cover replacements, and various cases. Unfortunately, Toshiba didn't send us any of those things to play with (not that we really ever do get such things as part of review unit packages, but I argue this stuff can add a lot of value to a device). But, these accessories aren't hugely different from what we've seen Samsung put out with the Galaxy Tab 10.1, or even the Motorola XOOM. The lack of a dock-pin keyboard (or keyboard-folio) accessory was somewhat puzzling to me.

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Build Quality, Size And Weight

As for build quality, the Thrive is, again, average. The removable battery cover isn't super sturdy, and is pretty plasticky, but it's not a deal-breaker. There is some play between the back cover and the chassis, and it can cause some flex when you hold it by the edges - which might be annoying for some. There's also display light leakage when you open up the port cover, though this is probably unavoidable. Otherwise, the Thrive gets a "pass" in my book on the quality of construction. The rear cover is also quite grippy (I'm going to go ahead and say that's now officially a word) and textured, meaning you're unlikely to drop the Thrive for lack of friction.

However, you might drop it for another reason - its size. The Thrive is big. Really, really big. 15mm thick (compare that to the Motorola XOOM - 12.9mm, and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 at 8.6mm), meaning you could stack two Galaxy Tab 10.1s, and they would be just a little thicker than the Thrive. If you want a tablet for gaming or around-the-house browsing, the Thrive is just too cumbersome to hold comfortably. I've heard some people say they find it workable, but if you hold the Thrive in your hands for 20 minutes in landscape mode, you're going to feel it.

It's also pretty heavy. The Thrive is 40 grams heavier than a XOOM, tipping the scales at 1.7lbs. Now, 1.7lbs isn't gargantuan in the context of, say, hardcover books or laptops. But for a tablet, it's heavy. It's more than 200 grams heavier than the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (about .4lbs), and that is more than noticeable - it's tiresome.

You can effortlessly handle the ultra-light Galaxy Tab 10.1 for long durations because of its featherweight status (well, as comfortable as holding a 10.1-inch tablet can be). We like that. But if you want to use your tablet with a kickstand-folio or on a flat surface most of the time, then these concerns are probably not all that relevant. If you want a tablet that is truly comfortable to use in your hands, the Thrive is not for you.

Display And Cameras

The IPS display is also very run-of-the-mill - compared to other more recent tablets I've seen (Iconia A500, Transformer, Galaxy Tab 10.1), it looks nearly identical in terms of color reproduction and viewing angle. It doesn't stand out. Viewing angles do suffer from brightness distortion, probably because of the thickness of the glass covering the Thrive's display, but I have yet to see a tablet that doesn't have this problem.

Otherwise, it's fine to look at. Colors are bright and vivid. It's no Super AMOLED Plus, but it's definitely not going to leave you disappointed once you've compared it to the competition.

The rear 5MP shooter is average - on par with the ASUS Transformer's camera, but at the same time, you probably won't use it much. Holding a tablet to take a photo, particularly in public, is just ever-so-slightly really awkward. The front-facing camera touts a 2MP resolution, but I didn't find it to actually be all that much better than standard VGA front-facing cameras you'll find on smartphones. The resolution was obviously superior, but the contrast and exposure were still of such a quality as to make using it for photos a last resort.

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Final Words

Buying a Thrive wouldn't be something you'd regret - it works just fine, and I'm not knocking Toshiba on quality or performance. But something tells me when you sit down at the café with this thing, and someone at another table is happily puttering away on their Galaxy Tab 10.1 or iPad 2, you'll think: I want one of those.

With Honeycomb so purely vanilla on every device right now (excepting Samsung's TouchWiz UX), it's hard to find ways to separate one product from the pack with software. So, manufacturers have turned to hardware. Unfortunately, the ways in which the Thrive stands out (namely: its many ports and portly size) have lost a lot of their utility in the last 6 months since we saw it at CES.

The removable battery is a good idea - in theory. But the fact that the Thrive's battery is so small (probably because it's removable) makes this feature such a compromise. I'd rather have the gigantic battery in the Tab 10.1 and get a whole week out of every charge. Even if you're concerned with battery degradation over the long haul, I would think that even a Tab 10.1 with its battery capacity halved over two years would be preferable. And you'll have to fork out anywhere from $70-90 for a replacement. It's hard, for me, to see how Toshiba's removable solution is superior to Samsung's philosophy.

As for the ports, they're convenient. But they aren't unique. The Acer Iconia A500 has full-sized USB, but not miniUSB. The Transformer has mini HDMI, which means you'll have to buy a new cable or an adapter, but it still gets the same job done - and the Galaxy Tab can do the same thing via a proprietary (though pricy) pin-to-HDMI cable. The SD card slot is handy if you use full-sized SD, and it's a legitimate convenience - but it's just one more feature, along with the Thrive's many ports, and it's removable battery, that comes at a cost: size.

Here's the deal - the Thrive would have been a frontrunner in tablet market around the time the XOOM came out. Today? The competition has caught up, and zoomed (sorry for that one) past the Thrive. If you want, or need, a tablet with full-sized HDMI-out and full-sized USB and miniUSB and an SD card slot, the Thrive is your only option, and it's not a bad one. If you don't need those things, there are better Android tablets out there.

David Ruddock
David's phone is whatever is currently sitting on his desk. He is an avid writer, and enjoys playing devil's advocate in editorials, and reviewing the latest phones and gadgets. He also doesn't usually write such boring sentences.

  • http://www.hideipvpn.pl hideipvpn.pl

    Question... let's say I buy tablet and spare battery. How do I charge a spare one? :-)
    Tablet is not a charger for battery as it is something we use... so without extra charger for it the whole concept of spare battery (like for camera - you do not use camera like tablet so it can be use as charger before travel) is plain stupid.

    • Kane

      I think the main point is you can buy a battery if yours starts to deplete too soon. But either way, you can charge it in your tablet, just like you charge a spare cell phone battery if you don't have a separate charger.

      • Paul Q.

        In most instances, a cell phone is a lot easier to use plugged into something than a tablet. I don't know about all tablets, but my Transformer has to be powered off in order to charge if it is plugged into my computer. Using a tablet that is plugged into the wall isn't always convenient. With all these things considered, a spare battery isn't that great of an advantage.

  • http://www.hideipvpn.pl hideipvpn.pl

    1. Since removing back cover is easy to do (sarcasm) I will really look forward to it.
    2. If (as most people) you are using tablet throughout the day this means that you're putting it back to charge over night. In case of Toshiba it means you need to get up to replace a battery so you got 2 of them charged in the morning.

    Good luck with that - I'll pass. And since we are on subject of depletion. It does happen, but not within a first two to 3 years (at least judging by my current and previous mobile phones). If that is the case I do not care as in 2 years time I will want to replace my tablet any way. And even if not I can always do it through repair garage. If on the other hand batter would go down sooner than that... well (my bad luck) I would avoid other products of such a manufacturer in future.
    So far I have not seen may people complaining about this issue on iPad 1 or Galaxy Tab 7".
    And one more thing... I would think it is much easier to charge up a battery during the day (for a bit) than spend extra cash for spare, carry it around and fiddle with the back cover. Not to mention that after a "X" removals it just may not sit very well on tablet.

  • brian

    How is it 15mm thicker than the Xoom, when under the specs you list it as 15mm thick?

    • http://www.AndroidPolice.com Artem Russakovskii

      It doesn't say "15mm thicker than a XOOM," it says "15mm - thicker than a XOOM."

      • brian

        Thats what it says now. Now that its been corrected.

  • Bob

    If it weighs 1.7 Lbs total and it weighs 1.7 Lbs more than a Xoom then the Xoom is very light.

    The rear cover may be difficult to remove but a lot easier than an iPad or Samsung 10.1. What is it like to change one of their batteries?

    I only handled one in Best Buy for a few minutes but did not find the weight or thickness objectionable. I did like the connections built in compared to my Samsung 10.1 which if they aren't back ordered cost extra for everything.

    • http://www.AndroidPolice.com Artem Russakovskii

      I'm not sure why you and brian decided to pick on the same thing, but there's a dash in between the thickness/weight and the rest of the sentence. The number before the dash is the total, then punctuation, then an observation that it's thicker/heavier.

  • Bob

    Just one more comment; I wish that I was able to get a week from my 10.1! I may have something wrong since I get just about a day.

    • http://www.AndroidPolice.com Artem Russakovskii

      My 10.1 lasts over a week with light usage.

      http://i.imgur.com/5RVOC.png

      • RAMBR02000

        That then begs the question, how long does it last with heavy usage (which is what you compared your light usage spec to). Let's do Apples and Apples (or should I say Oranges and Oranges) when comparing.

        • Kane

          Bob never specified whether his usage was light or heavy.

    • PTK502

      I have the Thrive, though it does have certain downfalls I would like to point out a few things. Now mind you I started off with a Droid 1 and moved straight to Droid X and then decided on a tablet. The Thrive battery life under heavy usage and by that I mean mixed gaming and Kindle use and Browsing I can squeak a day and half out of it. Under light use it can sit 3-4 days depending on what im doing light would be very minimal browsing and kindle use. As for the size yeah it can be a bear after a while but i never forget its there! I have not had many issue with using various apps though apps like PNC open small since they were designed for the phones not a tablet. The ports come in handy and I have used a Mouse and keyboard (separately) with out a problem though they have to be plain jane...

      • beth

        I have had the Thrive for a week now and am very happy with it. It really depends on who is using it and for what.I am happy the battery can be replaced by me compared to the ipad option.I wanted an ipad originally but decided to try the thrive and android experience out due to the price point. I use this to repace my Acer net book. I am not bothered by weight, it rests on my lap fine. I am using it for my home businesses mainly and find I do not need a laptop and b/c of the externals should I need them I am happy they are there..the battery and accessories are quite a bit cheaper on Amazon. So far I get a full day plus of battery life. I have watched Netflix, done shopping email and not put it down much. Not a big deal to charge, it is quick.

  • alan27inla

    There's no evidence that the Toshiba has an IPS display. Toshiba does not list it as IPS in the specs and when questioned the most they've been willing to say is that it's 'IPS like'...but uses LPS technology....which is a Toshiba proprietary thing.

    Toshiba on their website lists it as a 'LED back-lit display'. So again...this is not an IPS screen such as the Asus Transformer has. By the way the XOOM, Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Iconia Tab do not have IPS displays either. In fact the only two major tablets that I know of that do are the iPad and Asus Transformer. You can throw in the Nookcolor as well if you want to include a 7 inch device with a true IPS display. Many of the tech sites are erroneously reporting that the Thrive has an IPS display...but it doesn't.

  • Reuven

    I think the spirit of your review and your attitude in the video are not very sympathetic to the Thrive, and it shows loud and clear.
    I expect from reviewers to be impartial, even when mentioning negatives. Here is a link to a good video review:

    http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Toshiba-Thrive.htm

    I hope this posting will not be censured...

    • http://www.AndroidPolice.com Artem Russakovskii

      No censoring here.

    • Sopran

      You are right i think too that from the video i can see he is totaly against the thrive. The best thing is he thinks this is toshibas first Android tablet.... realy informed what about Toshiba Folio 100...
      And its funny he needed 20 minutes to get the cover back i have seen someone do it in 20 sec with one hand :D he should train his hands.
      And the next thing is he didnt even say´d that you can power up the thrive in a houd and 15 minutes to almost full but for almost every other tablet you need over 3 hours or more such a review like this is really considered by me more of a try to blacken the toshiba thrive

  • steve

    Have you researched the cost and time lost when you have to send the device back to the manufacturer for a battery replacement? Plain and simple its pretty expensive, and it takes weeks for its return.........

  • Bob

    OK, my bad missing the - it is correct as written.

  • http://designbythink.com Jerry

    This is not a Thrive review, rather like so many other reviews, just another "its not an ipad..."

    I have my thrive for about 5days now and I say this thing is fantastic.

    Let me address the "not so good":

    1. Too Thick
    2. Too Heavy

    Thick and heavy are relative concepts...I am a web developer and my laptop is a 15inch alienware mx15.

    3. Display angles are good enough for everyday use...for me not to be able to see the screen I would have to tilt at an extreme angle that no user of the device would ever do. If you cant see the screen its not your tab.

    Battery cover difficult to remove...its not child's play but neither is it rocket science.

    Justifications for buying versus other tabs

    1. SD card slot...I got the 16gb and bought a 32gb card for less than $50

    2. Full size USB, I can take this to a meeting and grab a thumb drive of files from my client and am good.

    3. Removable battery...I don't have a spare battery nor do I plan on buying one until this battery goes bad. I have enough ipods (3) in my house that works just fine as long as they remain plugged in.

    Bottom line: this tablet is in a class of its own. Comparing it to an ipad or galaxy tab is like comparing a corvette to a pickup.

    Laptops have size and weight classes, so do smartphones, cars, trucks and a host of other things we use on a day to day...why then must a tab fail or be bad because it doesn't share the same form factor?

    If you want something that is functional beyond Youtube videos trust me...this is the most versatile tablet on the market.

    • David Ruddock

      I completely agree with you that this tablet has features which others on the market currently lack - which I do believe I pointed out.

      And, as I rather clearly stated in the review, size and weight may not be the foremost considerations for everyone when they make a tablet purchase. I'm not saying the Thrive is useless or without a reason for existence for *everyone* - but for most people it's not going to be the best product for their needs.

      If it fits your needs, great - I understand that some people have rather specific demands of their hardware. But, we (and really, almost no tech sites) don't write reviews by attempting to cover every possible niche use or utility for a particular product. It's not feasible, and the average person would end up getting lost in a review full of considerations that may be totally irrelevant to what it is they want to know about a product.

      In the case of tablets, size and weight are key concerns for the average consumer. Toshiba has marketed this as a consumer device, not as a business-class product. If they had marketed it as a productivity machine, I might have spun this review differently. But I'm attempting to illustrate how the Thrive stacks up compared to its marketplace competition. Namely, the iPad 2, the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the ASUS Transformer (as well as the Iconia A500).

      I'm glad you're happy with your purchase, and as I said in the review, there's nothing so bad about the Thrive as to make it a product which would cause you buyer's regret - but there's clearly better choices out there on the market for most people, and that's the point I'm trying to make. I hope that has come across clearly.

  • David

    Better review. I know in the past with laptops I have replaced the battery in a couple of years. Now 3 or 4 years later I still use the laptop. Let me see my tablet needs new battery Oops it needs to to be sent out. I wish I could do it myself. JUST SAYING!!!

  • Bob

    I think its funny that 1.7lbs is considered cumbersome. I do see in relationship to other tablets this is large (obviously in a subjective manner) but when did people become so out of shape that holding something that weighs 1.7lbs for 20 minutes was overwhelming? I have mine and it works amazingly well walking around the house and I haven't had any kind of arm discomfort when holding it for long periods. I also have not found the back cover to be difficult to take off, like previous poster stated its not like popping a cell phone back off, but its easier than disassembling an ipad by leaps and bounds. It also seems interesting to assume that most peoples tablet usage would be better served with other devices. Just interesting.

  • Jerry

    I love my Thrive and I've owned them all. For me, this is the best tablet of them all. It just plain rocks. I find the Zoom actually feels heavier than Thrive, just better weight distribution on the Thrive. Its no ipad that's for sure! This tablet is useful and functional. Best tablet on the market.

  • Reuven

    David, the issue is that instead of stating facts and observations, you interject opinions and biases. This is not the job of the reviewer; let the readers make conclussions and formulate their opinions.

    • David Ruddock

      Here's the thing - if I had written a review interjected with more positive "biases" and come to an overall opinion that the Thrive was fantastic, you wouldn't be making that comment.

      Why? Because then I'd be agreeing with *your* opinion. It's very easy to criticize someone for being subjective when you don't agree with the conclusions they reach, and it's an argumentative fallacy that everyone falls into when they disagree with someone else, especially when it comes to things like consumer products.

      The fact is, every review is filled with opinion. Read our DROID X2 review. Read our Galaxy Tab review - which is full of glowing praise. Read our reviews of anything, really (or anyone on any tech blog), and they're all full of opinion.

      There's an absolute difference between opinions and bias. What's my bias? I'm looking at it as someone who needs to be convinced that this tablet is better than the competition. That's what consumers do - they weigh the options. The Thrive didn't convince me. Does that cover every possible reason someone might still be interested in the Thrive over those other options? No, but at least I point out that such reasons exist, multiple times.

      Opinions are part of the reviewing process. I don't know what it is you expect out of a "review," but a review without a fair amount of opinoin is one I wouldn't want to read.

      • 1bigkidd

        Well I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you again. I have read many reviews on the Thrive and there have been others out there who did not give it a favorable review, hugh example is Walt Mossberg review. It was not his personal choice of a tablet, I'm sure (he's a Apple fan boy 4 sure), but at least he was unbias enough to give a great review, allowing the consumer to make there own decision based on one's overall usage and what they may need in a tablet. Your approach was just odd, and almost like you were angry at toshiba and out for a payback. (well not so much your rewrite but the first review) Sure the tablet is far from perfect; but my iPad2 isn't either, but I love them both for the things each one does well or offer different. By the way I'm writing this from my Thrive with the a full usb keyboard now that's pretty cool :-)! I Don't know what YOU'RE DEAL WAS WITH THE BACK COVER.. Perhaps yours was defective. But, I'm a small woman and I had no problems. Well just try to be critical without being so personal with unnecessary biases. Thanks for your time.

      • Reuven

        I am not sure what in my comments made you think I like the Thrive. It's not really pertinent.
        I was not commenting on the points you made about the Thrive but rather on your frame of mind while conducting your review.
        A good review attempt to stay above the fray and refrain from inserting own partiality. Of course we all have preferences and likes, but those should not be reflected in reviews.
        I posted in my first comment above a link to what I consider a good review. Perhaps viewing it will illustrate my points.

        P.S. - I have no interest in the site that published that review.

  • 1bigkidd

    Thank you so much for this statement, I was really put off by this review; it's real obvious you don't like this tablet, and I heard you guys on the show also, it made me angry. Just give a impartial review and let the people decide. I own the Toshiba Thrive, and the iPad2 and I love both of them for different reasons. Also I am a very petite woman and I had no trouble removing the back cover on the Thrive and the Pink looks gorgeous on there. Nor was it so different in weight then my iPad2, sure a bit heavier but I use a cool little stand for both so not a problem to me. Looking face down I can't even notice the thicker base. I for one hope Toshiba proves every doubter wrong, there is a place for this type of tablet. I also got my eye on the Sony 1 Tablet.

  • TomeT

    I am glad David did a re-review after the comments made earlier by readers. It's nice to see someone appreciating feedback and acting on it.

    That said, I agree with Reuven that this still has biases intermixed with observations.

    For one, David seems pre-disposed to the concept of weight and size. True that iPad re-started the whole tablet thing and the emphasis was on sleekness, which everyone else tried to emulate. But think of it this way - when Macbook Air came into the picture, did everyone drop their bulky laptops and then go pick up the Air because it's light? There are still millions of people lugging their laptops around - not because they don't care for the weight - I am sure they don't mind a lighter laptop - but it gives them what the need without a paraphernalia of cables and accessories. To me, Toshiba is coming from that angle - a netbook/pc replacement rather than a sleek tablet that others will envy across the coffee shop.

    Having handled all the tablets mentioned here, I found the Thrive to be fairly comfortable - mainly because of the thickness - it sat nicely between my thumb and index finger, and didn't feel like I was holding a delicate flower that may break anytime. Even Asus that I like was a bit cumbersome to hold - I felt I was applying too much pressure on the screen even if I may not have been.

    As to the weight - yes it is heavier than Xoom, but as most observed, it does not 'feel' heavy. The analogy I use is that of suitcases - if you have a big and small suitcases and put equal weight on both, the bigger one will 'feel' lighter - I think it has to do with the density of an object - the weight is more evenly dispersed in Thrive making it feel lighter than Xoom.

    To the IPS display - I agree with one of the comments. Thrive does NOT say that this is IPS - but to David's point, there is no official word that it is NOT IPS as well. Although there are more sites than not that mention that it is IPS-like in terms of viewing angle and personally the viewing angle is as good as Asus, which IS IPS.

    • 1bigkidd

      I agree, this tablet just felt great in my hands and I never once thought it might slip from my hands like my iPad 2 (had to cover that quickly, afraid it would slip). You are also correct about the weight, it is more evenly dispersed on the Thrive, thus making it feel lighter. Of course holding any tablet in my hand for any length of time causes fatigue(even my slim iPad) So that's why I bought the Arkon Portable Fold-Up Stand, a great companion and easy to use and secure.

    • http://www.AndroidPolice.com Artem Russakovskii

      I personally reviewed the XOOM as I bought it and then the Tab 10.1 as I got it at Google I/O.

      You can find my Tab 10.1 review here on AP, and my top 2 reasons for choosing the Tab 10.1 100% of the time are its weight and thickness.

      I'm not 100% with David - there are countless benefits to having a tablet with all those extra ports, but to me, the size trumps everything. And yet, it's my own opinion, and also my review.

      You can't simply draw a line between having a personal stance and an objective review. You're affected by your feelings to an extent, so there's no one right review. There are facts and presentation of said facts, and then it's up to you, the readers, to figure out if they relate to you or not.

      I guess what I'm trying to say is i you don't agree with David on his review, it doesn't mean he's wrong, or that you're wrong, it just means you have different opinions.

      His first review was too brash, he admitted it, but his 2nd one is really what he thinks of this tablet. Having both the XOOM and the Tab 10.1, again, I'm always reaching for my 10.1 and not the XOOM - it has a better form factor and its shortcomings can be rectified by a simple adapter.

      Here's another thought, I challenge you to use both the 10.1 and the other tablets for a few days first, before making a decision that to a lot of you meant 5 minutes of playing with just one of these devices.

  • http://Mosbyraid@aol.com Mark

    Your remark about the cost of having to replace a battery in the Samsung device does not take into account the fact that you must pay to ship the tablet back to Samsung who will then charge you a $50 fee just to look at the tablet, plus the cost of the replacement battery, plus time and labor. Then there's a $26 shipping fee to return the tablet to you. I think I'd rather just order a new battery for the Toshiba and pay $75 and be done with it. As for battery life...How spoiled and lazy must one be if recharging a battery once every 2 days used heavily is too great a chore?

    • 1bgkidd

      Yes, I agree this review is much better than the 1st one. Not personal, Thanks for the rewrite :)

  • 1bigkidd

    Now here's what I'm not so pleased with... Forget the weight, its the screen. It's a bit washed out, and I have trouble reading text sometimes. But the wi fi is just the best, where as I'm constantly losing connection with my iPad2. So what are you going to do there are trade offs for sure

  • zare

    Weight and thickness shouldn't play as big of a role on a 10" tablet. 40 grams heavier than XOOM - a big problem? Come on...

    10" devices aren't supposed to be dragged around everywhere you go - 7" ones should serve that purpose.

    I think the non-proprietary connections and slots trump those "shortcomings".

    • Kane

      I disagree - and the XOOM is already way too heavy. Sure, 7" is easier to carry around but that's like saying you don't get a laptop to carry it around - instead you get a netbook. That statement is moronic.

  • Matt

    I sold my ipad to get this and have not looked back, I like the heftier feel and all of the ports available.

  • RAMBR02000

    The tone of the article has been talked about already so i wont flog a dead horse other than to say, I'm glad i didn't read the original review!

    I've not, until now had a reason to buy a tablet PC; all gimmicky and toy-like (yes, if I got one it would be for functionality...and a few gimmicks). The Toshiba Thrive sounds like (and not by your review) I might just be getting my feet wet; although that little voice in my head is telling me that some of the positive things about the Thrive may end up in some future version of one or all of the existing tablets...my laptop will suffice until that happens, but I'll be in the market by years end (when I'm sure a bunch of updated models will be released for the feeding frenzy that is the holiday (buying) season.

    Oh by the way CNET's weight comaprison table has the Thrive at 1.66lbs (yes, still heavier and way thicker and deeper) but they also say that Toshiba made the Thrive with the intent on appealing to the typical laptop user (I like to think of myself as a typical laptop user). With that in mind they ask, is thicker and heavier really such a bad thing...you say yes, I say no.
    File management system is a deal maker for me (and not for others; others being the ones I see in the coffee shop with their iPad2's and there 10.1's and wish I had one of those...NOT!).
    I applaud Apple for creating a new category (well, not creating), but expanding upon and making successful the tablet PC. They set the standards, everyone else follows (or tries to). Here comes Toshiba who've basically thumbed there noses at these standards and said there's another niche out there waiting to be tapped the function over form niche. Time will tell if they're successful, all I know is by years end some of these good functions (and you didn't touch on half of them) better end up in one of these sleek sexy models or I'm gonna be the guy sitting at the table across the way you snicker at with the fat tablet.

    Last note, I've looked at CNET as a bunch of Apple fanboys and girls and yet they still managed to give a mostly objective review of something they could quite easily have slung arrows at; and that is not to say they didn't point out its flaws and it has some, but given that they new the intent of this tablet (functional commercial) they seemed to have an advantage over you. I'll read some more of the reviews here to see if this was a one off; if I want subjectivity that I agree with, I'll listen to the voice in my head!

  • ron

    UGH, what a dog of a tablet. Hard to believe my old Xoom would look svelte in comparison. Fully agree the competition has zoomed past.

    Still think the Asus Transformer is the best all round tablet if you get the keyboard dock - lots of ports and best battery life in relatively thin and lightweight package. That it is also the least inexpensive full size/feature tablet and not coincidentally the best selling Android tablet isn't a surprise ...

  • Brian

    The reviewer obviously is determined not to like this. I dont have any trouble removing or installing the back cover and it certainly isnt a "nightmare". It's only .4 of a pound heavier than other tablets, so its not like your lugging around a bowling ball. So come on, if your gonna review it than give it a fair shot.

  • http://jpaw.com JP0

    It seems to me that the reviewer got paid more to review the Xoom than he did to review the Thrive. He forgot to mention the difference in price tag. I am happy with my Thrive and the review of the Xoom only served to convince me I made the right decision.

    The difference in size and weight is so miniscule I can't imagine it being a problem for all but very small, light weight people. I am 6'-1" tall and weigh 230 lbs. What do I care about a 1/4" or half a pound on a tablet.

  • kwparker80

    As long as others are correcting your review, let me ad one.

    The Acer Iconia DOES have both full size AND micro USB connectors, not just the full size as you state.

    My only objections to my Iconia Tab are the way too short power cord on the charger and the micro HDMI connector requiring purchase of an adapter to use with existing cables, or a cable especially for the Tab.

    As my battery routinely gives me 10-14 hous use of my tablet, I have no need for a spare. There are also videos on replacing the Iconia Tab battery on YouTube, it is just a matter of finding a replacement battery when the time comes.

    Each to his own, but I am very happy with my Iconia Tab on HC 3.1.

    • waz

      I think you are missing the idea behind a user replaceable battery. It's not to have a back up battery, it so when your battery needs replacing you can xo it yourself instead of having to send it back to the mfg. if still under warranty. I don't agree with the reviewer on any of his negative points at all. I fact I know the Toshiba Thrive running Honeycomb 3.2 is the best and full featured 10.1" tablet being sold in 2011. I get at least 16 hour's using my Thrive as I would use my laptop a.d I invested $23.00 in a car chrger so while on a trip I can teather it to my Motorola Photon and get WiFi and if my battery starts to vet low I just plug it in and keep on working. Also the guy that had something to say that the Acer Icona had full size inputs as far as I remember mine had a micro sd card slot that was maxed out at maybe 64gb's the Thrive has a full size sd slot and I have several 128gb cards that have different content. on crom over 250 full length movies to music recordings recordered off direct to disk recordings that are archived on sd cards to original phptographs taken by me over the last 46 years when I worked as a cree lance photographer. So on closing I would like to say you should try to actually pay attention to what reviewer's Re saying and try to understand what they are talking about before you make some really idiotic. remark.

  • Common Sense

    Anyone who would find this weight difference a handicap must be very weak indeed. I have held books weighed many times than the tablet for hours without a problem. And physically, I am no jock.

    As for the thickness. a few mm more is no big deal. A few mm might count on a device that you wanted to carry in your shirt pocket like a calculator.

    And for the rubberized features, I suspect that it is to make the tablet more durable. Take a look at Toshiba's Toughbooks. That is something I can understand someone not liking, but that is only a matter of personal preference.

    Anyone that complains about a few grams of weight and mm of thickness must be more concern about status. To me a SD card slot is more important than a few mm thickness.

    I was really excited about buying a Galaxay Tab 10.1 until I saw that it has no SD slot. That killed the sale for me! And I don't want a SD dangling from tablet while walking. That's plain stupid. I can understand that the SD port was sacrificed for the cool factor of competing on who is the thinnest.

    But if having a device a few mm thinner is what makes you cool then count me out. I have long graduated from school and don't worry about having to impress stuck up snobs I don't like with something I don't like, just to be cool.

    • David Ruddock

      Alright, now that I've become pretty much numb to the slew of negative comments this review has received (and I really do thank all of your for your input - it has been in more ways than one quite enlightening), I think I've come up with a good analogy to explain where it is I'm coming from.

      Buying a tablet is, in many ways, a lot like buying a sports car (sorry, but it really seems to fit). The traditional notion of a sports car is a vehicle which sacrifices (in some ways) practicality for performance - because that makes it more fun.

      You don't need a sports car. And, I would argue, no one needs a tablet. Not like you need a laptop, or even a smartphone. A tablet is, as things currently stand in the consumer electronics world, a luxury. Everything you can do on a tablet can be done on a laptop or a smartphone (and a HELL of a lot more) - but by combining some of the functionality of both, you end up with a device that sacrifices to meet that goal by disposing of some of key elements of a smartphone (calling, easy portability) and of a laptop (keyboard, bigger display, application compatibility, ports).

      So, this brings us to the Toshiba Thrive. It's what I would call a "sports station wagon" of a tablet. A sports station wagon attempts to achieve the best of both worlds - high utility, high performance. But take notice of how many performance station wagons you see rolling around (in the US, at least). There are some - but they are very few and far between. But the sports station wagon sacrifices by adding more weight, changing the center of gravity, weight distribution, fuel economy, aesthetic appeal, and resale value compared to a traditional sports car (say, a 2-door coupe or maybe a 4-door sports sedan.)

      The Thrive clearly makes sacrifices. Weight and thickness being the biggest ones - battery life being a close second.

      The Galaxy Tab? It's the 2-door hot hatch, it has 4 seats - if necessary. It's fast, it's fun, and if need be, you can jam 4 people in it without resorting to lap-sitting or other clown-car techniques. It's not comfortable or super practical, but it works. Because it's smallish and light, gas mileage is good, and so is performance.

      The Transformer is the 4-door sports sedan - quick and practical, it can go from hot sports car to 5-person family hauler at a moment's notice when duty calls, though trunk space and comfort are still sacrificed to some extent - along with MPG.

      The Thrive is that sports station wagon - when the in-laws come to town, you can fit all of their absurdly oversized luggage in the trunk, keep them comfortably distant from the back of your headrest, and still zip and zoom nimbly around the airport loading zone.

      But how often do you need that extra space? A few times a year? Maybe? And would a smaller vehicle get the job done if you really squeezed? It depends on who you are, I guess - but if you find yourself needing all that extra utility all the time, you're in the vast minority. If sports station wagons were so fantastic, we'd see a lot more of them rolling around, don't you think?

      And with that poorer gas mileage, altered center of gravity, reduced handling capability, and decreased resale value - you have to wonder, was it worth it? Or should I have gone with something a little less utilitarian and had a little more fun?

      Sure, it's still fast, it's still sporty, and it's practical in more ways than your average sports car, but to say you aren't sacrificing anything is just putting on blinders in order to keep yourself from sounding like you might, one day, regret it. You are giving up things.

      The Thrive makes sacrifices to achieve its added utility. If you don't think it does, you're just wrong, sorry.

      It's not a bad tablet - but for 95% of consumers who walk into a store looking for a tablet device, it's not what they're going to pick. Much like the sports station wagon, the Thrive has a market, and it's definitely a small, but legitimate, one. For everyone else? The alternative options offer more of what you want in a tablet (lower weight, more battery life, thinner profile) at relatively similar (or even lower) prices.

      Ironically, I love sporty station wagons. But the point stands. I don't dislike using the Thrive (in fact, it's only ever-so-slightly worse than using a XOOM in terms of comfort), but if I was the guy walking into Best Buy tomorrow with $500, I'd be walking out with Tab 10.1 or the Transformer - the Thrive has some cool ideas, but they're not what most people really are *demanding* out of tablets at this point. (Not to say there isn't a very, very vocal minority out there that cry foul at every tablet released without a USB port.)

      Hopefully that makes sense - sorry for the giganto-comment.

      • Reuven

        I like your analogy and these "sports vehicle" points really hit the nail on it's head. There is a room for every taste, need and desire. Had you in some way incorporated these comments in your review, it would have been taken differently by readers, at least by me. Without understanding your point of view the review seemed one sided and unbalanced.
        Unrelated philosophical point of view: most of the things in life are our wants, not needs. I contend that having a laptop or a cell phone is a "want". I know a few people who do not own either and are perfectly happy and do well. It's not my way of life but it exists.

        Finally, I hope you didn't take all the comments here personally. People are often very opinionated and have strong feelings about their likes and dislikes. It doesn't reflect on who they are or what's in their heart.

      • Popeye

        You are right that the Galaxy Tab is liken to to a sports car. But if the Galaxy Tab was a car it would be like the Mazda Miata, a two seater. Beautiful to look at, fun to drive, something many would enjoy owning, but not practical for most. Most everyone would need room to carry stuff, and room for their family. So the Thrive would be better for most people. Imagine the person with the Tab just got through taking a bunch of pictures and then looks over at the person with the Thrive downloading his pictures from his camera via his USB. But he has to run back home to use his computer to make the transition or has to carry a laptop for the job. (Kind of defeats the argument of a tablet replacing the laptop) Or the person with a Tab realizes his library of media is crowding his Apps because he don't have a SD slot to hold his extra media. I remember my first digital camera. It only had built in memory and I was forced to choose on the fly to delete something to be able to take another picture. With my newer camera I just swap cards. Yes before you point out the camera in the Tab, I know the Tab has a camera but it isn't practical as a real camera. Imagine trying to take a picture that requires more than a simple snapshot. I saw a golden hand pointing to the heavens on a steeple pointing up and needed a very good optical zoom for the shot. I was able to take the shot with my camera with a 30x zoom and transfer it over for immediate gratification.

  • RandyB

    Wow, too many people on here are acting like the writer wrote a review on their kid. If you don't like the review style, don't read it. Some people only feel empowered when they are sniping on the internet. Silly.

    • http://n/a Sullivan7

      Well said, RandyB. After reading comments to this review for about 20 - 30 minutes, I thoroughly enjoyed your refreshing remark.

  • Jeff

    David,
    What exactly are you sacrificing in getting the Thrive? You add on some weight and thickness, but what else? you said the back cover was flimsly. I find it easier to hold because of the back cover. Much better than the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or Xoom or Ipad2. Yes I have used those for more than 5 minutes.
    Look at what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 lacks - USB, HDMI, SD card Reader. The only 2 things it has is screen and thinness. Same with the Ipad2.
    And the weight of the Thrive is 1.6, not 1.7. Not a big difference but still there. I have used the Thrive since I purchased it. The screen is not bad at all. You can see everything clearly, weight is not a big deal, even when adding the 360 Portfolio case. I like the File Manager, but truthfully, wish they did a better job on it. But overall, an exceptional device.
    So, when you compare, compare the total package, not just screen / thinness and weight. There is more than those that bring value to a tablet, laptop and phone. The total functionality of the product is what counts. I prefer the total package and weight does not bother me as long as I can still hold the tablet with one hand and still get everything I want out of the tablet.
    If you want a closed in tablet, then yes, get a IPad2 or a Galaxy Tab 10.1. I prefer something that can give me a bit of everything.

  • jc

    On the battery, by just calling out the ampere hour is not sufficient, you need to calculate the energy of the battery. Although the battery is 2030mAH, the voltage is 10.8V, hence it has 21.9WH. I believe the Galaxy battery is 3.7V, hence the wattage is 22.5WH. The batteries are comparable in energy.

    • David Ruddock

      JC, this is true, and I sort of forgot about that issue. However, doesn't a battery of such high voltage consume a lot more of that amperage/hr when the device's display is on and the processors running compared to a one with lower voltage?

      I've always been taught to look at voltage like a spigot - you need more voltage for more "thirsty" hardware to ensure the output is sufficient at all times, but the Samsung 10.1 uses the same family of SoC, a similarly sized display, and presumably the same amount of power as the Thrive.

      Is all this extra voltage for those ports? Either way, the battery life on the Thrive is definitely *way* less than what you get on the Tab 10.1.

      Thanks for the pointing that out, though.

  • Splitfinity

    One thing that turned me off right away is that it ONLY charges through the ac adapter, you can not charge via usb like the galaxy and some other tablets. Thats a purchase killer for me.

    • waz

      Why is a USB charge port so important ? I bought the car charger from amazon.com for those long trips but my Thrive is getting about 10 to 15 hours of use on a single charge and that is using it like I would my laptop or netbook. I usually charge my Thrive about every other day. I have a lot of friends that have ipad's, Xoom's, and Galaxy's but I waited to see what kind of complaints they all came up with about each other Tablet's. Then I got my Toshiba Thrive, and they all said the same thing to me, why would you get a tablet that is thick, heavy, and is made by a computer company. My answer was to just let them see for thereselves, so I let them all use it for a while. Now they all understand why I picked a Thrive, full size SD card (up to 128gb), full size USB 2.0 output, and full size HDMI output and mini USB output. The 3 friends that have have the Samsung Galaxy Tab are all selling them and getting the Thrive. The wife of my friend who owns a xoom wanted a tablet and I went with her today to get her Thrive, and 2 of the guy's that had iPad 2's also had iphone's now have 16gb Thrive's and android phones and the other 3 ipad owner's are just Fan Boy's just like the guy that wrote this article.

  • http://www.thriveforums.org Henry

    I almost agree with your sports-car analogy except for the fact that tablets are becoming increasingly the consumer-choice for lower-to-mid range computing tasks.

    The only reason I now reach for my netbook is because I'm also a Thrive Developer @ Thriveforums.org.

    I will never give up Desktop PC's or my Desktop Replacement Laptop for its sheer power, but for everyday computing and traveling, nothing beats my Thrive.

    I know I may be a bit biased, we all are. We all try to justify paying the amount of money we did on our gadgets, but I honestly think that even though Toshiba didn't get itself an All-In-One BEST TABLET EVARR!!!11!, they definitely have a winner in the Thrive for the Tablet Market its aimed at: namely the practical users who want a fun and cool gadget without sacrificing usability.

    Also let's not forget Toshiba has been VERY good at pushing updates.
    We've already had at least 4-5 updates and it seems more are promised.

    Toshiba's Development and update staff have been very good at keeping our Thrives running smoothly.

  • http://www.rorymadstudios.com Michael

    I currently own a 7" Galaxy Tab which I purchased the first day they were available in the US. I can tell you from first hand experience, a use replaceable battery is a great thing. My Tab doesn't have this and so far I've had to send it in once for repair (took them 3.5 weeks to return the unit to me, I won't go into how bloody awful Samsung Mobile US's support is, long story short, they didn't know what a Galaxy Tab was a few months ago).

    If I was going to go out and purchase a new tablet today, I would lean towards to the Toshiba (My Tab is having battery issues again, so that user replaceable battery is looking better and better). In a perfect world, they would have a 7" Thrive with all of the 10 inch features :)

  • c johnston

    So how do you connect all the other tablets to a wide screen hdmi tv. I think this was a whining degradous review from the beginning. Its too heavy,what are we so weak now we cant lift a machine weighing a couple of pounds and is 3/4 inch thick. Waah Waah Waah. Pathetic ,grow up man.

  • http://www.militarylaptop.net Military Laptop

    Toshiba with their Thrive stand out from the tablet group.. For me, i would love to have tablet with full size ports since all laptop and PCs now still need full size USB port..

  • Batman_777

    Thrive on order...

    I really like the idea of having ports. Ports are very important when you need them.

    I really like the idea of a replaceable battery. The whole thing is a brick if the battery fails and you cannot replace it.

    I really like the idea of having a solid device since some feel too fragile.

    I really like versatility of the Thrive.

    I really really like Android :)

  • chris

    So my comments on thrive. Had it about a month. First mine was a version that could not recover from the hibernate mode of death. So a return and four calls to toshiba and happy best buy costomer here.

    So weight I have an average of 5 customers sign electronic documents every day. I create a hotspot with my phone to save money I toss it around in its case.

    Its got a zagg and a case I will be happy if it last 6 months with my use. Then I will get another.

  • Thsngr

    It's not a bad tablet - but for 95% of consumers who walk into a store looking for a tablet device, it's not what they're going to pick. Much like the sports station wagon, the Thrive has a market, and it's definitely a small, but legitimate, one. For everyone else? The alternative options offer more of what you want in a tablet (lower weight, more battery life, thinner profile) at relatively similar (or even lower) prices.
    It is amazing how someone who supports one product can tell what other people are looking for when they walk into a store. Using the reviewers own analogy if you pay attention, he was not describing a "sports station wagon" because how many do you really see on the road now? He really described a Sport Utiliy Vehicle. Yeah it's not a sports car but is built for sport and functionality. Speaking like an analogy of course, and this is just my "point of view on his point of view". The sports car may get you there in style, but where is your luggage. The SUV can get you there in style, with the inlaws and with all your luggage. Thats what that so called small legitimate market for the Thrive might be looking for, or so my "opinion" states. Just a thought before you anticipate what the consumer world is looking for.

    • waz

      I totally disagree with your opening statement. 95% won't pick the Thrive. I did a comparison and of the 25 people I talked to that went to Best Buy, Office Depot, and Staples 18 of them bought the Thrive for the same reasons I bought mine. Gorilla Glass, Full size USB 2.0 Full size HDMI and Full size SD cards plus customer changeable battery. One of the guys I work with has a Motorola Xoom and for some reason his battery died right after 13 months and he had to send it back to Motorola. He was told that he had to pay shipping both ways and also he should insure it for $600.00 He got his Xoom back with in 4 weeks and it cost him a total of about $165.00. I for one drive a Subaru Outback with a 2.5 L engine and I get 34 mpg highway, and I have a Yakima Space Case on top that all my luggage fits into and I have a thrive that does everything better than any other 10.1 tablet made today does with a little more weight but is better balanced. So where is your analogy now ?

  • lynn

    I think the toshiba thrive is one of the best ones out other then galaxy. Yes it's heavy but the good thing about that is if you drop it. It won't break. I hate to see what would happen if you drop the ipad.

    It would probably shatter. :)

    I"m not saying anything bad about Apple because I have the iphone, but I plan on buying the android tablet because I'm tired of jailbreaking to place stuff on it. Apple has so many disadvantages with it, but other then that It's a good product and I'm not complaining.

  • http://www.amsor.org Andy

    Battery life is not factored by current capacity but by power storage ... the Thrive may be only 2300 mAh but it is a 10.8V battery, rated as 24W ... other tablets rate between 23W-28W, but run at 3.8V, so need the higher ~7000 mAh to produce the same power output. As any engineer will tell you, the higher current means higher internal heat generation, and heat is what degrades batteries ... created when you discharge and when you charge the battery ... or leave a tablet somewhere hot, such as a car, even when off ... so using a lower current system and battery may well be extending the Thrive battery life ... which is a welcome bit of good design.

  • TechGuy

    This review is so clearly inaccurate, only a half-lawyer could
    have written it.

  • Steve

    Just order a toshiba thrive 32g with wifi, sd slot and usb port was the selling point for me, cant live without them :-), was looking at the samsung 10.1 but can't get my head wrapped around the lack of expansion ports, more storage is always welcome, sd cards are cheap.

  • ufixit

    I'm a small female who purchased a Toshiba thrive after reading your review.
    I don't have a problem with the weight
    I have not had a problem with the back cover, had it on and off about 3 times.
    maybe you should have had a 3 year old help you.
    I'm loving having all the ports + replaceable battery, listening to an audiobook using the USB (Steve Jobs)
    LOVE IT.

    • http://n/a Sullivan7

      To ufixit: Not sure why you think such a snarky remark was warranted, especially in view of the fact that this reviewer has spent a ton of time presenting views which have encouraged other views; all of which are presented free of charge in the hopes of enlightening the buying public.

      You are entitled to your view to be sure; however, as I said, not sure why you felt it necessary to be snarky. Quite frankly, I found your comment rather disrespectful, whereas without the unwarranted remark about the "three year old", I may have found it instructive.

      • http://www.facebook.com/akihikio Kara Rhodes

        I noticed you didn't reply to any of the snarky/nasty comments made by men. What does that say about you?

      • http://www.facebook.com/akihikio Kara Rhodes

        I noticed you didn't reply to any of the snarky/nasty comments made by men. What does that say about you?

      • tofudude

        Sullivan7 - Who uses the term snarky? Opinions are like ******** and yours is just bigger than most.

  • NelsonVe

    Dave I understand where your coming from and your not the only one who wrote a poor review on the Thrive, all of the other reviewres had the same reasons you did but I still shows the Thrive for the some of the reason you mark as a negative (the feel of was better, the screen was bright due to a default setting but once I adjusted it, to my prferance, it was better then the compitition. The heft of the Thrive was perfect for me.) Yet the number one reason for my purchase was the full size ports and replacable battery. I do a lot of traveling and do presentations as well as run technical classes, the Thrive was the only tablet that met with all my demands fro work and personal use. All the aother choices were compelling but not practical for long term use and ease os use of file transfer, device plugins, etc.
    Overall only the Thrive was, in my opinion, best of class in the tablet field. If you want to play games on it you can, if you want to write documents, build spread sheets, work on graphic presentations you can, thanks in larg part to the NVidia GPU.
    Thanks for answering many of the responses, it's rare but telling of the writer.

  • waz

    I have owned 4 tablets and I can honestly say that the Toshiba Thrive is the most user friendly 10.1" tablet out there. The Xoom is not balanced very well and because it didn't have a sd slot and the price I returned it rather quickly. Then I bought the Samsung 10.1 Tab and again the balance was off, if you try to use your hand flat on the bottom it becomes very hard to hold onto while walking through a office building and for me the weight is just too light. The screen is beautiful on the Samsung but I have had so much bad luck with there phones and there WiFi that I decided to take it back also. The next was the HTC 7" tablet and this little tablet was great but the screen is dull and like so many other tablets made today no Gorilla Glass and the UI is rather bothersome a lot like there phones so I traded that for the Asus Transformer and I thought this might be a keeper but again no Gorilla Glass and tech support sucks plus I found that the screen was ok but not what I would expect if I would have paid what it cost so I sold it on Craigs List and finally bought a Toshiba Thrive. I totally disagree with everything the reviewer had to say. The back came off in less than 10 seconds and the new back went back on in 5 seconds. The weight is in my opinion perfect, but I'm the type of person that hates small cell phones and small cameras. I use a Nikon F4s and a F100 Film camera and carry them out in the woods to do nature photograpy with real old big metal and glass lenses. My camera gear with my 2 Bogen tri-pods weigh almost 75lbs. so the weight of the Thrive's weight is like a walk in the park. It is also perfectly balanced and the texture on the back cover is wonderful. Also as far as I know the biggest micro sd card you can buy right now is 64gb and the cost is about $250.00 and I'm not sure if all tablets will support 64gb cards, but the Toshiba THrive uses regular size SD cards and supports up to 128gb's. I have 2 128gb rag sd cards that are series 10 cards and they run perfectly in my Thrive. I also use a foldout full size keyboard and wired mouse and I use a USB 2.0 hub with no problems what so ever. I use a Motorola Photon smartphone that has been rooted and I use it as a hot spot when I am a passenger in a car or train and there is no WiFi and I have never lost my WiFi signal.

  • http://Tru2Cntry.com JanMari

    Wow, never have heard such a negative review... I just bought the Thrive and I love it! The HD screen is beautiful, I love that I can replace the battery, so many things are "throwaway" because you can't replace the battery. It seems to have great battery longevity, I am a heavy user and it's keeping up with me, it holds about a 1/2 charge without hooking up. I use it for Geocaching and so I need the extra ports to link all my GPS'r to it and it does that just fine... all in all I am liking it... and I own an iPhone, an HP Laptop and an iTouch. ohh... and the Thrive has Adobe which is great for PDF's... thanks hope you find something positive to say in your next review... a happy Thrive Owner!

  • Kat

    I bought the Asus and returned, I bought the Samsung and returned it. So now I am on the thrive. Yes its bulky and not as thin. But I love the USB and the other ports. I work on OS and this so far is working. If someone is looking for a tablet for looks and weight then this is not for you. But if your looking for one that can be as a second PC then this is for you. Thank you for your review. The reason I say this is that I am the person that needed all three ports but my husband doesnt so he has the SG. Thank you again.

  • Waz

    You are still a pompass asshole. I have a Xoom and a ipad2 because someone gave it to me. I use the Toshiba Thrive all the time, it is 1 3lbs. Lighter than my HP laptop and it is easier to use. The ui makes more sence since I use a Samsung Note as a phone and I don't care who is looki g over my shoulder when I'm working with my thrive so the clarity issue from the side is a mute point like most of your review. And the battery might cost$72.00 from Samsong but can be bought for about$30.00 from Amazon and many other companies. One of the biggest Pisces. Of crap of your review is how hard it is to take off tha back cover and put it back on, I can replace my battery and put a different color back on my thrive in less than 20 seconds. It sounds like you are just a winey little fanboy that is afraid to maybe chip his fongernail polish taking off the back of than big old mean Thrive, I think it's just too much for you to handle. Waz

  • CeluGeek

    I have the Toshiba Thrive and I loved it. It is not a tablet for posing while sitting on Starbucks. While sitting at some coffee shop, I wouldn't even know what others are using or how they look at me, because I'd be busy getting some work done on my Thrive. I love the standard size ports and SD card slot. As for battery life, it could be better but it isn't that bad. At least when the battery dies, I can buy another one and replace it, and not have to ship my tablet away and pay to have a new battery welded in.

    Now, on the first sentence, I mentioned I LOVED the Thrive. Why in past tense? Honeycomb 3.2, that's the answer. In Toshiba's support forum, they are quick to blames Google but whoever's to blame, really ruined the Thrive's usefulness as a PC replacement by locking down the SD card and USB stick as read-only so now you can only write to a USB drive or an SD card from within Toshiba File Manager or by hooking up to a computer. QuickOffice HD won't save documents to external devices... even Astro File Manager (which has a better tablet layout than Toshiba's file manager) can't write to an SD card or USB drives anymore.

    I'm waiting (impatiently) for Ice Cream Sandwich to see if I can regain love for my tablet but I might end up buying something else to replace the Thrive if it's usability can't match what it was when the tablet first came out of the box.

    PSA just so you know, because these reviewers NEVER bother to tell their readers, the Thrive is full of bloatware, I mean, trialware. QuickOffice HD, all the card games, Printer Share, the Kaspersky security app, the Need for Speed Shift game, all are demos. You have to pay for the full versions if you really want them and if you don't, sucks to be you because you can't uninstall them. Oh, and if you do want to buy any of these, you'll have to buy them from Toshiba's app store -- they are unavailable from Google's store for the Thrive, so you can't reuse their full licenses whenever you switch to a different tablet.

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