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Update 12/29/10: Nope, either the rumor was false or Samsung/Sprint decided to delay the update once again:

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Epic 4G users, remember the Froyo update (DK28) that we thought was final but turned out to be nothing but a leaked test build? Shortly after the leak, Sprint released a statement discouraging the download and reaffirming the official latest supported build was Android 2.1 with Sprint's software version DI18.

The wait resumed, but not for long, as an official-looking photo of what looks like some sort of a memo in Sprint's internal customer support system, showed up over at Phone Arena. The update, dubbed DL11 (corresponding to Android version 2.2.1), is promised for the day after Christmas - December 26th, 2010. According to the memo, it will be released as an OTA (over-the-air), applied directly on top of DI18 (with patches for older versions DI07 and DG27 coming later).

If this information is indeed legitimate, Epic 4G will likely still manage to be the first Galaxy S series device in the U.S. to get upgraded to Froyo. I am experiencing both sad and happy feelings at the same time. Let's hope that it's true and that this time, Samsung won't pull it right back a day after, like it's been doing recently. <INSERT FROWN HERE>

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Source: Phone Arena, thanks Cary

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  • http://www.androidpolice.com/author/jaroslav-stekl/ Jaroslav Stekl

    And only half a year late!

  • dmeegan14

    When everyone said the Epic would be the better phone than the EVO you had to know an HTC phone would update alot sooner than a Samsung, the EVO is about to get Gingerbread..................no brainer which was the better Sprint 4G phone

    • DVCam

      HTC/Sprint can update the EVO as much as they want and the Epic STILL out performs it at every turn with an old OS lol!!

      I like the EVO but the Epic is just that..

      • JJ

        How does the evo have an old OS? Do you even know what your talking about? Yes, the video graphics might be better on the epic but when you compare all the different features not one phone is better than the other. Also can you explain why the evo is still selling out and the epic is not? In the end its a matter of what works for you.

  • rmh

    Please... no more rumors... The Samsung Epic has lost it's momentum anyways... other networks are coming out with v2.3 now... THANKS BUT... Too much too little too late...

  • vailmcc

    Since the Epic upgrade to 2.2 is nearly 4 months behind the Evo, and it really should be an upgrade to 2.3 like the Nexus S is running, I'm not the least bit happy or excited about getting 2.2. What a crock.
    Apple, here I come....

    • JJ

      Have fun with apple and the mediocre att network. Us epic and evo users will continue to enjoy a reliable network with decent speeds and 4g in a lot of areas.

    • Seth

      Even Android 1.6 blew away any iOS rendition.

      What exactly are you lacking in your 2.1 that Apple could offer you?

      Can't polish a turd.

  • quest

    I just purchased my epic 2 weeks ago and I love it! My girlfriend got evo the same day and we like the epic better, but if this is the pace I have to look foward to samaung bringing gingerbread as well I might switch to the evo.

  • fooflam

    I think it's hilarious how people seem to be all gung-ho for the upgrades...agreed that going to Froyo has taken a while to happen (and still may not), but some of the bonuses of Gingerbread really won't make a difference on the Epic (i.e. NFC, since I believe there are certain hardware requirements the Epic doesn't have). Please read up on Gingerbread's updates (easily found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_OS).

    I'm ecstatic that we're finally getting the upgrade to 2.2, because I'm actually looking forward to more flash on my phone and games I currently can't use. But honestly, it's still a great phone as is. I bought mine because it satisfies my original requirements in a phone (mainly being more 'smart' than phone) and keeps finding ways to surpass my expectations (i.e. using my home PC on my Epic through apps like TeamViewer).

    If you're going to switch phones, switch because the phone you have doesn't have\do what you need it to have\do, not because some other phone got an upgrade and yours didn't. Also, coming from an Instinct previously, Samsung is horrible about upgrading in a timely matter. Know your device and know the Co that makes said device. You'll be happier with your purchase in the long run.

    • quest

      Why is it hilarious that someone is gung-ho about an upgrade for the supposed flagship phone of a carrier? It shouldn't be hilarious it should be expected. also for me the lure of these updates are a huge reason I went android to begin with. I do understand and agree with your points but I fail to see the humor..

      • Will Nelson

        The Epic isn't the flagship phone for Sprint, The EVO is

        • Tony Utter

          No, but I think he meant to say the Epic is the flagship phone for Samsung. Even then, I don't know if that's true.

      • fooflam

        I agree with Will's opinion that the Epic is not Sprint's flagship phone. It's definitely help them proclaim they have two 4G smartphones on the market, but the Evo has had more print ads and commercials. If you'll notice, Evo also gets more push on updates, etc (including Froyo). IIRC, it also sold better (not that the Epic was a slouch).

        Me using the word hilarious is a bit of hyperbole; I say it sarcastically because of the various consumers I see in public and online not spending the time researching their purchases. Like many other people I know, I find humor at the expense of others, and even my own life stumbles. That's how I view life, which is, per your post, different than how you view yours.

        I've WANTED Samsung and then Sprint to have Froyo out on the Epic for months. But I understand a little about both companies, as I explained in my example of the Instinct. Expected? I expected nothing from them then an attempt to turn the biggest profit they can. In a small way, this is akin to crappy movies made by Hollywood. You can bitch all you want to your friends IRL and online, but it won't change anything unless you hit a company where it hurts: its pockets. When I eventually tire of my Epic, I don't plan on buying another Samsung device. Eventually I may even switch carriers, though in all honestly I'm mostly satisfied with Sprint's service.

    • vailmcc

      Well, I paid $250 for the Epic, and an extra $10 per month for service I don't receive. It's not a lot of money, but it irritates me to no end that XDA developers can produce a pretty decent rom of 2.2, with a fraction of the assets Samsung has, and do it in a fraction of the time. There's no excuse for this phone not running 2.3 by now. Samsung decided to put their time and energy into the Nexus S, and that's fine, but service after the sale keeps people coming back. And I for one, won't be.

      • fooflam

        In defense of the CDA developers doing things faster, It's kinda like smaller companies that specialize in certain fields...the XDA developers are not limited to a larger company's policies, time constraints, shareholders, etc...they can do as they please. They also have a more personally vested interest (whether that's because they want to unlock their own phone, or just really love challenges).

        But I agree that Samsung has taken a while to do the upgrade, a lot longer than they honestly should have and with little response to the public. That last bit is the most frustrating part for me. While I'm still really happy with my phone (yes, even as is), I also won't be giving Samsung more money at a later date.

  • fooflam

    ARGH!! I was trying to edit my &**#!! reply post to quest and firefox kept crashing on me...here is the edited vers (that hopefully sounds like less of a dick response):
    I agree with Will's opinion that the Epic is not Sprint's flagship phone. It's definitely help them proclaim they have two 4G smartphones on the market, but the Evo has had more print ads and commercials. If you'll notice, Evo also gets more push on updates, etc (including Froyo). IIRC, it also sold better (not that the Epic was a slouch).
    I was being sarcastic and I probably shouldn't have by using the word hilarious. But honestly, I do chuckle at the various consumers I see in public and online not spending the time researching their purchases. I even consider myself a dumbass for not doing the same thing as well on occasion. I've been reading a few different forums about the Epic, and I'll see the same person post about how the upgrade is taking FOREVER and then I'll see a different post about how they actually use their phone (in some cases, for some texting, phone calls, and facebook). In my opinion, they honestly don't use it to make an upgrade THAT worthwhile. They appear to be just wanting the upgrade because they see other phones getting it. This is of course my opinion.
    I've WANTED Samsung and then Sprint to have Froyo out on the Epic for months. But I understand a little about both companies, as I explained in my example of the Instinct. Expected? I expected nothing from them then an attempt to turn the biggest profit they can. In a small way, this is akin to crappy movies made by Hollywood. You can bitch all you want to your friends IRL and online, but it won't change anything unless you hit a company where it hurts: its pockets. When I eventually tire of my Epic, I don't plan on buying another Samsung device. I may even switch carriers, though in all honestly I'm mostly satisfied with Sprint's service.

  • Nick

    Do I need to go back to DI18 or do you think the upgrade will load over DK28. I have it installed and had no issues.
    Any thoughts?

    • Mike357

      I plan on Odin'ing back to DI18 once I get word it's OTA...wouldn't hurt to do so.

  • MJ

    Just be happy Epic owners...Sprint has always been faster at releasing updates than the other US carriers. It will likely be February before my Fascinate sees Froyo. I'm going to help my relative with an Android phone tonight at Big Red, you can be certain I won't recommend any Samsung devices!

  • http://bill.com bill

    fuck you Samsung..I myself have an epic and I enjoy it but the lack of updates compared. to other phones pisses me off...I will neaver purchase another Samsung phone again. ..I'm ron burgandy. .fuck you Samsung

  • EpicFailure
    • http://www.AndroidPolice.com Artem Russakovskii

      According to a commenter in that post, the hope is not lost by far. We'll have to wait till the 26th to see if it comes out or not.

  • Rob

    anyone get the update yet?

  • Crazyheaven

    It's not happening this year.

  • NameGoesHere

    I'm sorry but if you are looking for speedy updates going with Samsung is a fools bet, in the past I'm sure everyone can see their track record so why put yourself in the position. Now if you like the device and don't want to get the EVO cause of the lack of keyboard embrace what you have because really that’s all you can do to keep your morale up. HTC is a safe way to make sure updates come in a timely manner (that is why I stand by HTC since I had Windows mobile 5) and all these negative posts and false hope that Samsung delivery’s I can see why most of the consumers will choose another maker when they get tired of their Galaxy line up

  • http://www.GrantGarrison.com OMGrant

    Until HTC puts out an update to the EVO that magically grows a qwerty keyboard and a hummingbird processor, I'm keeping my Epic

    Haters ganna hate :3

  • looking for a $150 Epic

    What I want to know is why Epic is still priced at $249 at Sprint and a couple places slightly less.
    I have been looking for the Epic to price at $150 upgrade so I could buy it. But, I am now wondering as a result of the lack of the Froyo 2.2 Update....
    I wanted a hard keyboard. Maybe the new EVO slider, its supposedly going to be only $150. How will it compare to the Epic?
    I guess Samsung and Sprint don't want to admit to a problem by lowering the Epic's cost.

  • http://www.GrantGarrison.com OMGrant

    Honestly this looks like a case of 'Its done when its done'

    Do you folks honestly want fast bug-ware?
    I'm running the leaked build which is good, and I can see they've made a lot of improvements everywhere. IMO they are trying to get it right before it hits OTA, because the last thing they want are a bunch of phones shipping back :P

  • Steven

    If you really want Froyo, do a manual update of the leaked internal version. The odin back to eclair when the official launch goes OTA. Only probs I had was with gps. But I don't use gps sono harm. No probs elsewise with 2.2. And if all u want the update is for flash so u can play farmville with your phone....need I say get a life. Wait for the update. Other than that understand and realize besides the OS update you have what has been deemed the number 1 smart phone on the market. e happy

  • Jason

    dude , don't compare the evo with the epic .
    the evo screen looks wash out, no keyboard,
    battery dies 4 hours earlier than the epic and the epic is faster. i hate the update delay but
    there's going to be a surprise.

  • Mayford

    Well surprise then.
    I have read the majority of the posts here and really find most of them to be just a rant. I love my Epic and though it isn't Froyo yet I still love it. My wife has what I call Epic's little brother. The Samsung Intercept and it now has Froyo on it. I like Froyo but for what it is worth I don't see that much different from Eclair. Just a few visuals and support for Flash. For now I am very happy with what I purchased. The Epic does everything I need it to do and then some. I pre-ordered mine and haven't had a problem since it was delivered. Not like the EVO that had screen issues and grounding issues.

  • Pierre

    I'm a Epic owner and would like FROYO for 1 or 2 simple reasons...the multimedia dock..says it needs FROYO to support it and it would of course be awesome to have flash, since right now it seems I can't view certain types of media at times...I went with the Epic over EVO because of it's screen, processor and SWYPE. I've tried the EVO with the "swype" app and not even close...I do wish they made an EPIC without the keyboard, once you swype..no going back!

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